Foster misses practice with toe injury (1 Viewer)

[PantherPower]

Hate to wish a player bad health, but as a Panthers fan, I would love to see what D-Will can do with a full load.

 

[KoolKat]

Not cheering injury, but I just traded VY, Foster, and a 2 Rd Rook/FA Draftpick for Carson Palmer in dynasty...this makes me like the trade even more.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

black mother fing dot and :SEHORN:

 

[CrossEyed]

Any more details? Is this serious, or just precautionary?

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

black mother fing dot and :SEHORN:

 

[Loan Sharks]

Any more details? Is this serious, or just precautionary?

It's excusionary, they want to give DeAngelo a chance without demotions and lost face.

 

[Trap Play]

It's excusionary, they want to give DeAngelo a chance without demotions and lost face.

That's what I am thinking/hoping.

 

[switz]

Hate to wish a player bad health, but as a Panthers fan, I would love to see what D-Will can do with a full load.

We have seen what DWill can do with a full load. In his two starts last season he had an average of 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 4.4), in his 4 games with 15+ carries he had two games below 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 3.7), one game of 4.4 YPC which he did start, and one game of 5.7 YPC which he didn't start and in which Foster averaged 7.0 YPC.Williams is explosive, but he is not a consistent RB that you want as your starter.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

excusionary?

 

[SharkBait]

excusionary?

Must be a mortgage term or something.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Hate to wish a player bad health, but as a Panthers fan, I would love to see what D-Will can do with a full load.

We have seen what DWill can do with a full load. In his two starts last season he had an average of 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 4.4), in his 4 games with 15+ carries he had two games below 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 3.7), one game of 4.4 YPC which he did start, and one game of 5.7 YPC which he didn't start and in which Foster averaged 7.0 YPC.Williams is explosive, but he is not a consistent RB that you want as your starter.

5.1 YPC in games he's gotten double digit carries.

 

[Chunky Soup]

Hate to wish a player bad health, but as a Panthers fan, I would love to see what D-Will can do with a full load.

We have seen what DWill can do with a full load. In his two starts last season he had an average of 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 4.4), in his 4 games with 15+ carries he had two games below 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 3.7), one game of 4.4 YPC which he did start, and one game of 5.7 YPC which he didn't start and in which Foster averaged 7.0 YPC.Williams is explosive, but he is not a consistent RB that you want as your starter.

We've also seen Foster...

 

[Loan Sharks]

excusionary?

Excusionary is to precautionary as Excuse is to precaution English is not the official language of the FFA, I prefer to speak in my own beautiful language I call eboardics.Only other people who speak in eboardics are allowed to question our phrases and culture.

 

[CrossEyed]

excusionary?

Excusionary is to precautionary as Excuse is to precaution English is not the official language of the FFA, I prefer to speak in my own beautiful language I call eboardics.Only other people who speak in eboardics are allowed to question our phrases and culture.

Wurd.

 

[kevinallen]

Hate to wish a player bad health, but as a Panthers fan, I would love to see what D-Will can do with a full load.

We have seen what DWill can do with a full load. In his two starts last season he had an average of 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 4.4), in his 4 games with 15+ carries he had two games below 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 3.7), one game of 4.4 YPC which he did start, and one game of 5.7 YPC which he didn't start and in which Foster averaged 7.0 YPC.

Williams is explosive, but he is not a consistent RB that you want as your starter.

But Foster is? I'll take explosive over anything Foster has to offer.

 

[Sopranos]

He missed a practice.. Calm down D-will owners..Stop dreaming..What are we talking about,practice? Not the game, practice. Were talking about practice, how silly is that? Practice

 

[switz]

Hate to wish a player bad health, but as a Panthers fan, I would love to see what D-Will can do with a full load.

We have seen what DWill can do with a full load. In his two starts last season he had an average of 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 4.4), in his 4 games with 15+ carries he had two games below 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 3.7), one game of 4.4 YPC which he did start, and one game of 5.7 YPC which he didn't start and in which Foster averaged 7.0 YPC.Williams is explosive, but he is not a consistent RB that you want as your starter.

We've also seen Foster...

And in every game that Williams has looked "amazing" Foster has looked better. I'm not saying Foster is great, just that Williams isn't.

 

[kevinallen]

Hate to wish a player bad health, but as a Panthers fan, I would love to see what D-Will can do with a full load.

We have seen what DWill can do with a full load. In his two starts last season he had an average of 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 4.4), in his 4 games with 15+ carries he had two games below 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 3.7), one game of 4.4 YPC which he did start, and one game of 5.7 YPC which he didn't start and in which Foster averaged 7.0 YPC.

Williams is explosive, but he is not a consistent RB that you want as your starter.

We've also seen Foster...

And in every game that Williams has looked "amazing" Foster has looked better. I'm not saying Foster is great, just that Williams isn't.

How can this even be determined? He's not great? Not arguing if he is or not, but he hasnt even been given the chance to show it yet. He's had 8 games in his year and a half career where he's rushed the ball 10 or more times, with a 5.1 ypc average. Players like Sam Gado, Reuben Droughns, Ladell Betts, Tatum Bell, Quentin Griffin and countless others who were not 1st round picks, have been given a bigger opportunity than Williams has.

Now, he may prove to be just another Deshaun Foster or even fall flat on his face, but there is no one on this board that can say he's not any good because he hasnt had the chance to show he's any good.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

excusionary?

Excusionary is to precautionary as Excuse is to precaution English is not the official language of the FFA, I prefer to speak in my own beautiful language I call eboardics.Only other people who speak in eboardics are allowed to question our phrases and culture.

Wurd.

omghi2u2Idiots.

 

[Da Guru]

D-Willy is turning out to be a Tatum Bell clone.

 

[Chunky Soup]

D-Willy is turning out to be a Tatum Bell clone.

How are they in any way related?

 

[msommer]

Maybe this is a plot to motivate...

 

[Butterbags]

Creative diction aside, do any Carolina homers know if this is something that bears watching? ...Williams is available on my WW this week as is Kenny Watson.

Please keep us posted if you hear that he misses additional practices, or anything close to definitive on his status for this weekend.

Thanks

 

[PantherPower]

I'm in Pantherland and I'll let you know what I hear today.

 

[PantherPower]

Word is, Foster has turf toe. That can be a lingering problem for a RB. Although last year I think he played a couple of games with the same injury.

And an interesting side note, this weekend, the 2 best QBs in the NFL, Brady and Manning, play the only teams in the NFL they have never had a victory against during their careers. Manning has never beaten the Panthers, Brady has never beaten the Redskins.

 

[Butterbags]

I'm in Pantherland and I'll let you know what I hear today.

Thanks...I'll keep an eye on this one.

 

[TeamDingo]

Didn't we have a thread a few weeks back when DFoster missed a Wed practice saying he was going to be benched because of fumbles and non performance?

I would love for DWill to get all the carries this week (with EJames on a bye). But last time they were just resting Foster and I will wait for the Thur practice report before getting to excited.

 

[Birdie048]

Just acquired DeA Williams. Was a trade of "backups". I am not counting on him to be a starter, but historiclly, Foster misses a few games around Week 9-10 and comes back slowly. If this is his slide into rehab, I will look for more info before I start DeA.

With Gore, AD Peterson (Min) and LenDale White (and J Jones on bye), I don't know if DeA will ever start for me. We start 2

 

[PatrickT]

Even if Foster is out, this can't be a great matchup for Williams. Assuming Carr is in, I would think the Colts would commit to shutting down the run.

 

[MrJimiT]

And an interesting side note, this weekend, the 2 best QBs in the NFL, Brady and Manning, play the only teams in the NFL they have never had a victory against during their careers. Manning has never beaten the Panthers, Brady has never beaten the Redskins.

I think Favre has never beaten Denver before either. I think that would mean all 3 QB's could do the record this weekend.

 

[pantherclub]

Hate to wish a player bad health, but as a Panthers fan, I would love to see what D-Will can do with a full load.

We have seen what DWill can do with a full load. In his two starts last season he had an average of 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 4.4), in his 4 games with 15+ carries he had two games below 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 3.7), one game of 4.4 YPC which he did start, and one game of 5.7 YPC which he didn't start and in which Foster averaged 7.0 YPC.Williams is explosive, but he is not a consistent RB that you want as your starter.

We've also seen Foster...

And in every game that Williams has looked "amazing" Foster has looked better. I'm not saying Foster is great, just that Williams isn't.

Please see the Cards game from 2 weeks ago.

 

[Limp Ditka]

DeShaun Foster returned to practice Thursday, but the Associated Press reports he's dealing with turf toe.Foster says he'll play Sunday against Indianapolis, but turf toe is an extremely tricky injury, and it's possible he'll be limited in the game. Tatum Bell had the injury last year and his workload week to week was highly unpredictable. Foster could be an injury risk for the rest of the season. Oct. 25 - 2:25 pm et

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Very interesting.

 

[Keith Lewis]

The sense I get from the Panther Den is all is fine with Foster, his toe has been bugging him all year, he's skipped Wednesday practice several times this year and will play and start.

Better luck D. Shrimpy owners next week!

 

[Rev]

Hate to wish a player bad health, but as a Panthers fan, I would love to see what D-Will can do with a full load.

We have seen what DWill can do with a full load. In his two starts last season he had an average of 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 4.4), in his 4 games with 15+ carries he had two games below 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 3.7), one game of 4.4 YPC which he did start, and one game of 5.7 YPC which he didn't start and in which Foster averaged 7.0 YPC.

Williams is explosive, but he is not a consistent RB that you want as your starter.

We've also seen Foster...

And in every game that Williams has looked "amazing" Foster has looked better. I'm not saying Foster is great, just that Williams isn't.

Not true. He had at least 1 huge game last year where Foster didn't even play.I don't care for the debate about Dwill's ability to carry a load until he actually gets a chance to do so. Granted, if they don't trust him to do so, that certainly says something, but I don't think we've arrived at the point where this 2nd year player with no injury problems can be likened to the next Tatum Bell.

 

[shadyridr]

And an interesting side note, this weekend, the 2 best QBs in the NFL, Brady and Manning, play the only teams in the NFL they have never had a victory against during their careers. Manning has never beaten the Panthers, Brady has never beaten the Redskins.

I think Favre has never beaten Denver before either. I think that would mean all 3 QB's could do the record this weekend.

Its KC and GB plays KC next week

 

[CletiusMaximus]

And an interesting side note, this weekend, the 2 best QBs in the NFL, Brady and Manning, play the only teams in the NFL they have never had a victory against during their careers. Manning has never beaten the Panthers, Brady has never beaten the Redskins.

I think Favre has never beaten Denver before either. I think that would mean all 3 QB's could do the record this weekend.

Hate to feed the hijack, but this is mistaken. I was at Lambeau for a night game in the early 90's - Reggie White had back-to-back sacks of Elway at the end to preserve a Packers win.

 

[Fodasme69]

And an interesting side note, this weekend, the 2 best QBs in the NFL, Brady and Manning, play the only teams in the NFL they have never had a victory against during their careers. Manning has never beaten the Panthers, Brady has never beaten the Redskins.

I think Favre has never beaten Denver before either. I think that would mean all 3 QB's could do the record this weekend.

Hate to feed the hijack, but this is mistaken. I was at Lambeau for a night game in the early 90's - Reggie White had back-to-back sacks of Elway at the end to preserve a Packers win.

It's so difficult that even the NFL's record-setting ironman, Brett Favre, has yet to achieve the milestone. Aside from his own Packers, Favre has never beaten Kansas City, Green Bay's opponent next week.

ESPN

 

[MrJimiT]

And an interesting side note, this weekend, the 2 best QBs in the NFL, Brady and Manning, play the only teams in the NFL they have never had a victory against during their careers. Manning has never beaten the Panthers, Brady has never beaten the Redskins.

I think Favre has never beaten Denver before either. I think that would mean all 3 QB's could do the record this weekend.

Hate to feed the hijack, but this is mistaken. I was at Lambeau for a night game in the early 90's - Reggie White had back-to-back sacks of Elway at the end to preserve a Packers win.

It's so difficult that even the NFL's record-setting ironman, Brett Favre, has yet to achieve the milestone. Aside from his own Packers, Favre has never beaten Kansas City, Green Bay's opponent next week.

ESPN

Yep major hijack on my part. I read that same article and still messed it up.

 

[Fodasme69]

And an interesting side note, this weekend, the 2 best QBs in the NFL, Brady and Manning, play the only teams in the NFL they have never had a victory against during their careers. Manning has never beaten the Panthers, Brady has never beaten the Redskins.

I think Favre has never beaten Denver before either. I think that would mean all 3 QB's could do the record this weekend.

Hate to feed the hijack, but this is mistaken. I was at Lambeau for a night game in the early 90's - Reggie White had back-to-back sacks of Elway at the end to preserve a Packers win.

It's so difficult that even the NFL's record-setting ironman, Brett Favre, has yet to achieve the milestone. Aside from his own Packers, Favre has never beaten Kansas City, Green Bay's opponent next week.

ESPN

Yep major hijack on my part. I read that same article and still messed it up.

 

[switz]

Hate to wish a player bad health, but as a Panthers fan, I would love to see what D-Will can do with a full load.

We have seen what DWill can do with a full load. In his two starts last season he had an average of 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 4.4), in his 4 games with 15+ carries he had two games below 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 3.7), one game of 4.4 YPC which he did start, and one game of 5.7 YPC which he didn't start and in which Foster averaged 7.0 YPC.

Williams is explosive, but he is not a consistent RB that you want as your starter.

We've also seen Foster...

And in every game that Williams has looked "amazing" Foster has looked better. I'm not saying Foster is great, just that Williams isn't.

Not true. He had at least 1 huge game last year where Foster didn't even play.

I was referring to games in which they both played... I didn't think that was so difficult to grasp. Someone pointed out the AZ game this season in which statistically DWill outperformed Foster as a response. I won't argue that from a FF perspective that is 100% correct.

I don't care for the debate about Dwill's ability to carry a load until he actually gets a chance to do so. Granted, if they don't trust him to do so, that certainly says something, but I don't think we've arrived at the point where this 2nd year player with no injury problems can be likened to the next Tatum Bell.

He's been given the chance to "carry the load" in a few games already. As the full time starter he hasn't been impressive.

 

[PantherPower]

Well I own both Panthers RBs in 1 league, and will probably start D-Will to be safe. Foster healthy isn't always a very safe bet, and with this injury, I'm even more weary...

 

[Duke1948]

Well I own both Panthers RBs in 1 league, and will probably start D-Will to be safe. Foster healthy isn't always a very safe bet, and with this injury, I'm even more weary...

same here and the lineup is still 2 1/2 days away, i'll wait as i need one of them this week....lost brown last week.

 

[simey]

DeShaun Foster returned to practice Thursday, but the Associated Press reports he's dealing with turf toe.Foster says he'll play Sunday against Indianapolis, but turf toe is an extremely tricky injury, and it's possible he'll be limited in the game. Tatum Bell had the injury last year and his workload week to week was highly unpredictable. Foster could be an injury risk for the rest of the season. Oct. 25 - 2:25 pm et

Foster has had turf toe before. The season they played Seattle in the NFC Championship he had turf toe. He didn't practice much before the Atlanta game, or much before the two games against the Giants and Bears in the playoffs. He performed very well in those games until he broke his ankle against the Bears. Now that Williams is around, he won't have to carry the load like he did against teams back then.

 

[Rev]

Hate to wish a player bad health, but as a Panthers fan, I would love to see what D-Will can do with a full load.

We have seen what DWill can do with a full load. In his two starts last season he had an average of 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 4.4), in his 4 games with 15+ carries he had two games below 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 3.7), one game of 4.4 YPC which he did start, and one game of 5.7 YPC which he didn't start and in which Foster averaged 7.0 YPC.

Williams is explosive, but he is not a consistent RB that you want as your starter.

We've also seen Foster...

And in every game that Williams has looked "amazing" Foster has looked better. I'm not saying Foster is great, just that Williams isn't.

Not true. He had at least 1 huge game last year where Foster didn't even play.

I was referring to games in which they both played... I didn't think that was so difficult to grasp. Someone pointed out the AZ game this season in which statistically DWill outperformed Foster as a response. I won't argue that from a FF perspective that is 100% correct.

I don't care for the debate about Dwill's ability to carry a load until he actually gets a chance to do so. Granted, if they don't trust him to do so, that certainly says something, but I don't think we've arrived at the point where this 2nd year player with no injury problems can be likened to the next Tatum Bell.

He's been given the chance to "carry the load" in a few games already. As the full time starter he hasn't been impressive.

I have a masters degree and you're method of analysis still doesn't make sense to me. Why grade DW based only on the games that he and Foster have both played in if you're looking to see how DW has done in games that he had significant carries. Just take the number of games where he had a least 15 touches and see what you find. Who cares if Foster played or not?

 

[Boone22]

Hate to wish a player bad health, but as a Panthers fan, I would love to see what D-Will can do with a full load.

We have seen what DWill can do with a full load. In his two starts last season he had an average of 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 4.4), in his 4 games with 15+ carries he had two games below 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 3.7), one game of 4.4 YPC which he did start, and one game of 5.7 YPC which he didn't start and in which Foster averaged 7.0 YPC.

Williams is explosive, but he is not a consistent RB that you want as your starter.

We've also seen Foster...

And in every game that Williams has looked "amazing" Foster has looked better. I'm not saying Foster is great, just that Williams isn't.

Not true. He had at least 1 huge game last year where Foster didn't even play.

I was referring to games in which they both played... I didn't think that was so difficult to grasp. Someone pointed out the AZ game this season in which statistically DWill outperformed Foster as a response. I won't argue that from a FF perspective that is 100% correct.

I don't care for the debate about Dwill's ability to carry a load until he actually gets a chance to do so. Granted, if they don't trust him to do so, that certainly says something, but I don't think we've arrived at the point where this 2nd year player with no injury problems can be likened to the next Tatum Bell.

He's been given the chance to "carry the load" in a few games already. As the full time starter he hasn't been impressive.

I have a masters degree and you're method of analysis still doesn't make sense to me. Why grade DW based only on the games that he and Foster have both played in if you're looking to see how DW has done in games that he had significant carries. Just take the number of games where he had a least 15 touches and see what you find. Who cares if Foster played or not?

I think what Switz is saying is that by comparing them in games where they both played you get a direct correlation between their performances. You can't look at games where only one played because they may have faced an extremely easy or hard defense which would slant their numbers. So for example, that 1 game where DWill had a HUGE game and foster didn't play, who's to say it wasn't a pathetic run defense and Foster would have had a huge game as well?

 

[prosopis]

 

[prosopis]

Any news on Foster?

 

[Real Man of Genius]

Hate to wish a player bad health, but as a Panthers fan, I would love to see what D-Will can do with a full load.

We have seen what DWill can do with a full load. In his two starts last season he had an average of 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 4.4), in his 4 games with 15+ carries he had two games below 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 3.7), one game of 4.4 YPC which he did start, and one game of 5.7 YPC which he didn't start and in which Foster averaged 7.0 YPC.

Williams is explosive, but he is not a consistent RB that you want as your starter.

We've also seen Foster...

And in every game that Williams has looked "amazing" Foster has looked better. I'm not saying Foster is great, just that Williams isn't.

Not true. He had at least 1 huge game last year where Foster didn't even play.

I was referring to games in which they both played... I didn't think that was so difficult to grasp. Someone pointed out the AZ game this season in which statistically DWill outperformed Foster as a response. I won't argue that from a FF perspective that is 100% correct.

I don't care for the debate about Dwill's ability to carry a load until he actually gets a chance to do so. Granted, if they don't trust him to do so, that certainly says something, but I don't think we've arrived at the point where this 2nd year player with no injury problems can be likened to the next Tatum Bell.

He's been given the chance to "carry the load" in a few games already. As the full time starter he hasn't been impressive.

I have a masters degree and you're method of analysis still doesn't make sense to me. Why grade DW based only on the games that he and Foster have both played in if you're looking to see how DW has done in games that he had significant carries. Just take the number of games where he had a least 15 touches and see what you find. Who cares if Foster played or not?

 

[SteveInChicago]

Hate to wish a player bad health, but as a Panthers fan, I would love to see what D-Will can do with a full load.

We have seen what DWill can do with a full load. In his two starts last season he had an average of 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 4.4), in his 4 games with 15+ carries he had two games below 4.0 YPC (3.9 & 3.7), one game of 4.4 YPC which he did start, and one game of 5.7 YPC which he didn't start and in which Foster averaged 7.0 YPC.

Williams is explosive, but he is not a consistent RB that you want as your starter.

We've also seen Foster...

And in every game that Williams has looked "amazing" Foster has looked better. I'm not saying Foster is great, just that Williams isn't.

Not true. He had at least 1 huge game last year where Foster didn't even play.

I was referring to games in which they both played... I didn't think that was so difficult to grasp. Someone pointed out the AZ game this season in which statistically DWill outperformed Foster as a response. I won't argue that from a FF perspective that is 100% correct.

I don't care for the debate about Dwill's ability to carry a load until he actually gets a chance to do so. Granted, if they don't trust him to do so, that certainly says something, but I don't think we've arrived at the point where this 2nd year player with no injury problems can be likened to the next Tatum Bell.

He's been given the chance to "carry the load" in a few games already. As the full time starter he hasn't been impressive.

I have a masters degree and you're method of analysis still doesn't make sense to me. Why grade DW based only on the games that he and Foster have both played in if you're looking to see how DW has done in games that he had significant carries. Just take the number of games where he had a least 15 touches and see what you find. Who cares if Foster played or not?

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