Foster or Best (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

Isn't Foster a sell high?

 

[big0mar]

To further illustrate...The Lions had 197 runs last season of 4+ yds. Here is the breakdown by down:1 1072 663 214 2I'm not sure how many of those were draws, but there a lot of those runs were on first down.

I think the Lions' O-line is decent, as well. One thing I would point out about these stats is that it's a lot easier to run on 1sr/2nd down when your team is behind 2+ scores. The defense will be playing back more often to guard against the pass.Are you able to pull the 2009 Lions' YPC per quarter or per half? If their 1st qtr/1st half rushing stats are solid, that makes the stats you posted look a lot stronger.

Heres the breakdown of rushes of 4+ by quarter:1 662 473 444 39The Lions were down sometimes in the first quarter though, so take the numbers as you will. I'll try to run some more based on situation shortly.

 

[Doug B]

The Lions were down sometimes in the first quarter though, so take the numbers as you will. I'll try to run some more based on situation shortly.

Big0mar, can you see yards-per-carry data, too? Something with which to compare the 4-yard-rushes data.

 

[big0mar]

The Lions were down sometimes in the first quarter though, so take the numbers as you will. I'll try to run some more based on situation shortly.

Big0mar, can you see yards-per-carry data, too? Something with which to compare the 4-yard-rushes data.

I can get that together. I'll have a bunch of stuff later to see if we can gather anything about the Detroit OL.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

Not sure how people can say Foster has the better situation.

the Detroit Lions were 2nd in the NFL in runs of 4+ yds last year. That offensive line can run-block, and Best will have lots of opportunities to break big runs. Not to mention that he really has nobody lurking to take carries away either.

That stat is a bit distorted because the Lions were down so much that defenses were geared to take away the pass. The Lions were not a good rushing team last year. However, I think Best is in a good situation and is going to be great. I expect the Lions to put up a lot of points this year. However, I don't think Best gets the GL carries, where Foster will. That IMO is the big difference.

I keep hearing this so please tell me who gets them... Smith..Nope.. Morris..nope Best can get to the edge better than any of them and also has jumping ability ala Priest Holmes. I cant imagine Lions pulling Best in place of any of the other RB. You dont need a big RB at the goaline.

 

[Ilov80s]

Not sure how people can say Foster has the better situation.

the Detroit Lions were 2nd in the NFL in runs of 4+ yds last year. That offensive line can run-block, and Best will have lots of opportunities to break big runs. Not to mention that he really has nobody lurking to take carries away either.

That stat is a bit distorted because the Lions were down so much that defenses were geared to take away the pass. The Lions were not a good rushing team last year. However, I think Best is in a good situation and is going to be great. I expect the Lions to put up a lot of points this year. However, I don't think Best gets the GL carries, where Foster will. That IMO is the big difference.

I keep hearing this so please tell me who gets them... Smith..Nope.. Morris..nope Best can get to the edge better than any of them and also has jumping ability ala Priest Holmes. I cant imagine Lions pulling Best in place of any of the other RB. You dont need a big RB at the goaline.

Jerome Felton. I am not sure the Lions are too excited about Best leaping over the goal line, it didn't go very well for him last time he did that. I think inside the 3-4 yard line, they go with Felton. I would expect Best out there on 5 yard line or further back.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

Not sure how people can say Foster has the better situation.

the Detroit Lions were 2nd in the NFL in runs of 4+ yds last year. That offensive line can run-block, and Best will have lots of opportunities to break big runs. Not to mention that he really has nobody lurking to take carries away either.

That stat is a bit distorted because the Lions were down so much that defenses were geared to take away the pass. The Lions were not a good rushing team last year. However, I think Best is in a good situation and is going to be great. I expect the Lions to put up a lot of points this year. However, I don't think Best gets the GL carries, where Foster will. That IMO is the big difference.

I keep hearing this so please tell me who gets them... Smith..Nope.. Morris..nope Best can get to the edge better than any of them and also has jumping ability ala Priest Holmes. I cant imagine Lions pulling Best in place of any of the other RB. You dont need a big RB at the goaline.

Jerome Felton. I am not sure the Lions are too excited about Best leaping over the goal line, it didn't go very well for him last time he did that. I think inside the 3-4 yard line, they go with Felton. I would expect Best out there on 5 yard line or further back.

No way they pull best for Felton.... Zero Chance

 

[Ilov80s]

Not sure how people can say Foster has the better situation.

the Detroit Lions were 2nd in the NFL in runs of 4+ yds last year. That offensive line can run-block, and Best will have lots of opportunities to break big runs. Not to mention that he really has nobody lurking to take carries away either.

That stat is a bit distorted because the Lions were down so much that defenses were geared to take away the pass. The Lions were not a good rushing team last year. However, I think Best is in a good situation and is going to be great. I expect the Lions to put up a lot of points this year. However, I don't think Best gets the GL carries, where Foster will. That IMO is the big difference.

I keep hearing this so please tell me who gets them... Smith..Nope.. Morris..nope Best can get to the edge better than any of them and also has jumping ability ala Priest Holmes. I cant imagine Lions pulling Best in place of any of the other RB. You dont need a big RB at the goaline.

Jerome Felton. I am not sure the Lions are too excited about Best leaping over the goal line, it didn't go very well for him last time he did that. I think inside the 3-4 yard line, they go with Felton. I would expect Best out there on 5 yard line or further back.

No way they pull best for Felton.... Zero Chance

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...7372&spln=1http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/football...ldk2k10lions32q

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2010/...eresting_b.html

I actually think they will try a few different things out around the goal line, but Felton is getting more opportunities as a rusher this offseason. They ran him 6 times for 37 yards and there is no doubt he is part of the offense. I do think Best will be used around the goal line like Reggie Bush is, but I don't think he is the guy pounding it in from the 1.

 

[Doug B]

I do think Best will be used around the goal line like Reggie Bush is, but I don't think he is the guy pounding it in from the 1.

Reggie Bush is an outstanding back to have on the field during goal-line situations. He's not a battering ram, but his presence and pre-snap movements make the defense move around a lot ... sometimes chaotically. And on top of that, Bush does get to the corner and covert his share of TDs.

 

[Ilov80s]

I do think Best will be used around the goal line like Reggie Bush is, but I don't think he is the guy pounding it in from the 1.

Reggie Bush is an outstanding back to have on the field during goal-line situations. He's not a battering ram, but his presence and pre-snap movements make the defense move around a lot ... sometimes chaotically. And on top of that, Bush does get to the corner and covert his share of TDs.

Yeah, I agree. Like I said, I think you see Best used at times on the goal line in that manner. However, when they want to smash it in, I don't see him as the guy.

 

[Doug B]

Yeah, I agree. Like I said, I think you see Best used at times on the goal line in that manner. However, when they want to smash it in, I don't see him as the guy.

Is anything really stopping Stafford from sneaking a few 1-yd TDs in a la Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers?[tangent]

What happened to QB sneaks, anyway? Didn't it seem like teams ran them more in the 80s, and didn't they seem to be money back then? Are QB sneaks really high-injury-risk plays or something?

[/tangent]

 

[daveandken]

[tangent]What happened to QB sneaks, anyway? Didn't it seem like teams ran them more in the 80s, and didn't they seem to be money back then? Are QB sneaks really high-injury-risk plays or something?[/tangent]

Risk isn't higher - but $ is.

 

[The Dynasty]

Does Best get moved up now that Detroit might possibly cut Kevin Smith?

 

[shnikies]

Does Best get moved up now that Detroit might possibly cut Kevin Smith?

Best should get moved up because he is an absurdly good running back that can make something out of nothing. He'll make a guy miss then slow down to let that guy catch up so he can just make him miss again. He finds people trying to tackle him quite humorous.

 

[abe froman]

Yeah, I agree. Like I said, I think you see Best used at times on the goal line in that manner. However, when they want to smash it in, I don't see him as the guy.

Is anything really stopping Stafford from sneaking a few 1-yd TDs in a la Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers?[tangent]

What happened to QB sneaks, anyway? Didn't it seem like teams ran them more in the 80s, and didn't they seem to be money back then? Are QB sneaks really high-injury-risk plays or something?

[/tangent]

This is precisely what I would assume would happen. If the Lions found themselves at the 1 yardline. Id bet a majority of those plays go either QB sneak, or jump ball to Calvin. the remaining opportunities could be split randomly between Best, Fulton and Smith. Best is special and I cant see him not having his chances but again my 1st 2 scenarios have to be option 1 and 1a.

 

[shnikies]

Yeah, I agree. Like I said, I think you see Best used at times on the goal line in that manner. However, when they want to smash it in, I don't see him as the guy.

Is anything really stopping Stafford from sneaking a few 1-yd TDs in a la Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers?[tangent]

What happened to QB sneaks, anyway? Didn't it seem like teams ran them more in the 80s, and didn't they seem to be money back then? Are QB sneaks really high-injury-risk plays or something?

[/tangent]

This is precisely what I would assume would happen. If the Lions found themselves at the 1 yardline. Id bet a majority of those plays go either QB sneak, or jump ball to Calvin. the remaining opportunities could be split randomly between Best, Fulton and Smith. Best is special and I cant see him not having his chances but again my 1st 2 scenarios have to be option 1 and 1a.

Please remember that plays from the one yard line are not as common as you would think.

 

[nyy45]

I got 'em both. I picked 12 in a 12 team re-draft 0.5 PPR league at work. Very competitive for a work league, 11 of 12 know their business.I went Andre & Calvin at the 1.12/2.01. Then: Best/Jennings Foster/Bradshaw at the next two turns. I'm concerned about having two Texans and two Lions but I think they will each be stronger than expected a few months ago.This was a week ago and prior to Best and Foster looking like beasts this weekend. I never say this but this year drafting early worked out for me!

great drafting

 

[The Dynasty]

Yeah, I agree. Like I said, I think you see Best used at times on the goal line in that manner. However, when they want to smash it in, I don't see him as the guy.

Is anything really stopping Stafford from sneaking a few 1-yd TDs in a la Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers?[tangent]

What happened to QB sneaks, anyway? Didn't it seem like teams ran them more in the 80s, and didn't they seem to be money back then? Are QB sneaks really high-injury-risk plays or something?

[/tangent]

This is precisely what I would assume would happen. If the Lions found themselves at the 1 yardline. Id bet a majority of those plays go either QB sneak, or jump ball to Calvin. the remaining opportunities could be split randomly between Best, Fulton and Smith. Best is special and I cant see him not having his chances but again my 1st 2 scenarios have to be option 1 and 1a.

Please remember that plays from the one yard line are not as common as you would think.

For a Chicago fan you sure are quick to defend anything having to do with Best. So much so that it almost discredits anything you say. There's obviously some bias.

 

[shnikies]

Yeah, I agree. Like I said, I think you see Best used at times on the goal line in that manner. However, when they want to smash it in, I don't see him as the guy.

Is anything really stopping Stafford from sneaking a few 1-yd TDs in a la Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers?[tangent]

What happened to QB sneaks, anyway? Didn't it seem like teams ran them more in the 80s, and didn't they seem to be money back then? Are QB sneaks really high-injury-risk plays or something?

[/tangent]

This is precisely what I would assume would happen. If the Lions found themselves at the 1 yardline. Id bet a majority of those plays go either QB sneak, or jump ball to Calvin. the remaining opportunities could be split randomly between Best, Fulton and Smith. Best is special and I cant see him not having his chances but again my 1st 2 scenarios have to be option 1 and 1a.

Please remember that plays from the one yard line are not as common as you would think.

For a Chicago fan you sure are quick to defend anything having to do with Best. So much so that it almost discredits anything you say. There's obviously some bias.

I'm bias because I think Jhavid Best is a special running back? I defend him because of that not because I'm bias.

 

[T.Rex]

Since when is roto or some espn reporter calling the shots. Roto is usually WAY off in their analysis and have been called out recently and the other articles are pure speculation. I would be willing to bet a good amount Best see more carries from the 1 by a 2-1 margin. Thats just my speculation.

 

[Ilov80s]

Since when is roto or some espn reporter calling the shots. Roto is usually WAY off in their analysis and have been called out recently and the other articles are pure speculation. I would be willing to bet a good amount Best see more carries from the 1 by a 2-1 margin. Thats just my speculation.

That information isn't coming from Roto, it is coming from Tom Kowalski, Lion's beat writer.