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FBG still has Gore projected as a #1 RB for the rest of this year. I have not seen anything to make me believe this. The only thing I believe is that he will be the work horse has a decent schedule but their offence is pathetic.

I have him on 2 teams this year as my #2RB this year and I am not comfortable.

Should I be comfortable with Gore as a number 2 RB?

 
I think this note from Profootballfocus this week basically summed up Gore and his play thus far this season:

Limited by injury? Frank Gore had the fourth lowest ‘Elusive Rating’ of the week after forcing just one missed tackle and picking up 1.9 yards after contact.
I've seen every Niners game this year and Hunter looks like the better back to me when taking into account preseason and the first few weeks.
 
I have no idea why he is #10 on the list, baffling, especially when you see the players right behind him and even players 10 or more spots lower. No, you should not be comfortable with Gore as an every week RB2 but I'm sure he'll put up top 20 numbers with the right matchup. I'm guessing the fact he has five more division games plays into the ranking but having him in the top 10 or even top 20 is pretty absurd.

 
I love FBG obviously, but I have been burned in the past by the Top 200 Forward....specifically on older RBs. Not sure why of if its a trend...but this sure seems to fit the bill.

 
Perhaps they think Gore will do better against easier opponents. The three teams the Niners have played are all in the top half of the league defending the run. Seattle (#13), Dallas (#2), and Cincinnati (#7) have been pretty stout against the run (granted an argument can be made that their numbers are better since they played the Niners). Their upcoming schedule includes Philly (#30), Tampa Bay (#23), Detroit (#21), Cleveland (#29), Washington (#11), NY Giants (#15), Arizona twice (#27), Baltimore (#6), St. Louis twice (#32), Pittsburgh (#12), and Seattle (#13). So, just looking at the numbers, Gore should have a decent chance to improve on his numbers in the weeks ahead.

 
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what does it matter, at this point you can't get decent value back in a trade. I offered him for Fitzpatrick and Starks a couple weeks ago and was turned down (they also had Brady @ QB). In hindsight I'm glad, but his value is somewhere between a low end tier2 and maybe tier3 RB.

 
You have 3 veteran RBs that all got big contracts and didn't see much action if any in the preseason: Gore, DWill, and Chris Johnson. They have all struggled for a variety of reasons. But their talent didn't just disappear. It's not unreasonable to expect each of them to return to form by the second half of the season.

 
You have 3 veteran RBs that all got big contracts and didn't see much action if any in the preseason: Gore, DWill, and Chris Johnson. They have all struggled for a variety of reasons. But their talent didn't just disappear. It's not unreasonable to expect each of them to return to form by the second half of the season.
I hear you. But the thing I can't understand about the FBG rankings is that prior to the season, it looked like this:JohnsonGoreDeAngeloNow it looks like this:Gore (basically unchanged)JohnsonDeAngeloDeAngelo and Johnson have understandable dipped, but Gore has remained in the same spot. He's actually moved up a notch or two. Obviously, I don't agree with the FBG rankings here, but I'd like to understand their reasoning behind it...
 
Gore is a high mileage RB with a history of injury, and while he may have hit his wall a bit earlier than his 28 years would suggest, he has nonetheless hit it this season.

I considered him a buy low going into this year, but after 3 weeks he's become a "stay away".

 
'Akira said:
Perhaps they think Gore will do better against easier opponents. The three teams the Niners have played are all in the top half of the league defending the run. Seattle (#13), Dallas (#2), and Cincinnati (#7) have been pretty stout against the run (granted an argument can be made that their numbers are better since they played the Niners). Their upcoming schedule includes Philly (#30), Tampa Bay (#23), Detroit (#21), Cleveland (#29), Washington (#11), NY Giants (#15), Arizona twice (#27), Baltimore (#6), St. Louis twice (#32), Pittsburgh (#12), and Seattle (#13). So, just looking at the numbers, Gore should have a decent chance to improve on his numbers in the weeks ahead.
This is what I see too, I am not done on Gore after 3 weeks but I consider him a weak # 1 strong # 2 as where I did consider him a solid # 1
 
Gore is a high mileage RB with a history of injury, and while he may have hit his wall a bit earlier than his 28 years would suggest, he has nonetheless hit it this season. I considered him a buy low going into this year, but after 3 weeks he's become a "stay away".
Interesting to say the least. Like a previous poster stated, his schedule lightens up considerably going forward. I still consider him a buy low guy.
 
"I don't know, man," Gore said. "I really don't know. If I can't go, I can't go."

This doesn't sound to me like a guy who has any interest in playing. What is Hunter's value if Gore can't go?

 
"I don't know, man," Gore said. "I really don't know. If I can't go, I can't go." This doesn't sound to me like a guy who has any interest in playing. What is Hunter's value if Gore can't go?
I think not as good as Gore's but being a starting NFL RB will definately give him some value.What you are talking about he said is because of a injury though. not because he does not want to play.
 
"I don't know, man," Gore said. "I really don't know. If I can't go, I can't go." This doesn't sound to me like a guy who has any interest in playing. What is Hunter's value if Gore can't go?
Agreed, when I heard that I got a bad feeling in my stomach. Compare that to Foster saying he is good to go on his leg every chance he gets. Which guy sounds like he got a fat contract and which one is playing for one?I have been trying to shop him but have only been getting real lowball offers (ex. Jacobs). I am not moving him this week. I am just hoping he plays and does something this weekend.
 
"I don't know, man," Gore said. "I really don't know. If I can't go, I can't go." This doesn't sound to me like a guy who has any interest in playing. What is Hunter's value if Gore can't go?
I've been watching all of the Niners' brutal games this season (though I like the record :) ) and I don't see how anyone could have any kind of an accurate idea how Hunter will do. His ypc hasn't been much better than Frank's despite Hunter's fresher legs, and my suspicion is that some of my fellow fans and some local media folks are over-perceiving Hunter because there is something nightmarishly repetitive about watching Gore run for 2 yards and a cloud of dust, over and over, with the odd 7 yard breakout. So it seems fresh and new when you see Hunter come in and look fast while generating 2 yards and a cloud of dust. There is just no threat of a passing game, particularly in the red zone. Watching our offense is like watching a mid 20th century black and white movie about football. But hey, we're winning and not turning the ball over :) I definitely would not want to take a defense against the Niners despite the low scoring offense, that's for sure.
 
i own both. If gore can play and be healthy I'd prefer that. But not the worst thing in the world if Gore doesn't play this week and Hunter gets all the carries.

 
I have been offered Starks and Moreno for him and I am considering it. If it was not for Grant looking good last week I may have pulled the trigger already.

 
I have been offered Starks and Moreno for him and I am considering it. If it was not for Grant looking good last week I may have pulled the trigger already.
Fixed. Owning Moreno negatively impacts your team by wasting a roster spot so you mine as well just not include him in the trade.
 
I have been offered Starks and Moreno for him and I am considering it. If it was not for Grant looking good last week I may have pulled the trigger already.
Fixed. Owning Moreno negatively impacts your team by wasting a roster spot so you mine as well just not include him in the trade.
Ditto. Maybe I got fleeced, But I was offered Deion Branch for Knowshon Moreno and jumped on it. We'll see ??
 
'mdlane said:
'coachbobbyfinstock said:
"I don't know, man," Gore said. "I really don't know. If I can't go, I can't go."

This doesn't sound to me like a guy who has any interest in playing. What is Hunter's value if Gore can't go?
I've been watching all of the Niners' brutal games this season (though I like the record :) ) and I don't see how anyone could have any kind of an accurate idea how Hunter will do. His ypc hasn't been much better than Frank's despite Hunter's fresher legs, and my suspicion is that some of my fellow fans and some local media folks are over-perceiving Hunter because there is something nightmarishly repetitive about watching Gore run for 2 yards and a cloud of dust, over and over, with the odd 7 yard breakout. So it seems fresh and new when you see Hunter come in and look fast while generating 2 yards and a cloud of dust. There is just no threat of a passing game, particularly in the red zone. Watching our offense is like watching a mid 20th century black and white movie about football. But hey, we're winning and not turning the ball over :) I definitely would not want to take a defense against the Niners despite the low scoring offense, that's for sure.
When a RB starts slowing down, the one thing that they need, that we often don't see right away when we are just looking at fantasy stats, is a constant number of opportunities, in order to maintain the end production. As the poster above shows us as someone who has been watching these games, that is not happening. And because the real life team is doing well and winning, it may not change soon.I do not watch the Niners much but I do watch the falcons and this sounds like a similar situaiton with Turner. The opportunities are not there and the team is having way more penalties than they normally do, and in general they just are not in a good groove where they can run the ball a lot. Turner IS slowing down IMO at a very noticeable rate and I think both of these guys are guys that are situational plays now.

So,I can see calling Gore a top ten SITUATIONALLY, but not as a season-long top 10 RB. I'm sure he will ahve some good games but I would not want him as one of the guys I play each week without thinking about it.

 
'Islanders rule said:
'shnikies said:
'topman said:
I have been offered Starks and Moreno for him and I am considering it. If it was not for Grant looking good last week I may have pulled the trigger already.
Fixed. Owning Moreno negatively impacts your team by wasting a roster spot so you mine as well just not include him in the trade.
Ditto. Maybe I got fleeced, But I was offered Deion Branch for Knowshon Moreno and jumped on it. We'll see ??
Know-show is already on the WW in our league.
 
gore is projected to get 2.51 pts in my league this week, against the worst fantasy defense so far this season. I don't believe he will go that low but I'm still trying to unload him, however like others are finding there's not much value. Gotta hope he has a good week in order to up the trade value a little bit.

 
Just trying to ascertain how low Gore's current value is... Would you take Steve Smith(CAR) for Gore if you were the Gore owner?

 
'Akira said:
Perhaps they think Gore will do better against easier opponents. The three teams the Niners have played are all in the top half of the league defending the run. Seattle (#13), Dallas (#2), and Cincinnati (#7) have been pretty stout against the run (granted an argument can be made that their numbers are better since they played the Niners). Their upcoming schedule includes Philly (#30), Tampa Bay (#23), Detroit (#21), Cleveland (#29), Washington (#11), NY Giants (#15), Arizona twice (#27), Baltimore (#6), St. Louis twice (#32), Pittsburgh (#12), and Seattle (#13). So, just looking at the numbers, Gore should have a decent chance to improve on his numbers in the weeks ahead.
Or that this terrible (but young) OL finally realized their paper potential. Three recent 1st round picks, a high 2nd, and an All-Pro C should be very good.:notholdingmybreath:

'mdlane said:
I've been watching all of the Niners' brutal games this season (though I like the record :) ) and I don't see how anyone could have any kind of an accurate idea how Hunter will do. His ypc hasn't been much better than Frank's despite Hunter's fresher legs, and my suspicion is that some of my fellow fans and some local media folks are over-perceiving Hunter because there is something nightmarishly repetitive about watching Gore run for 2 yards and a cloud of dust, over and over, with the odd 7 yard breakout. So it seems fresh and new when you see Hunter come in and look fast while generating 2 yards and a cloud of dust. There is just no threat of a passing game, particularly in the red zone. Watching our offense is like watching a mid 20th century black and white movie about football. But hey, we're winning and not turning the ball over :) I definitely would not want to take a defense against the Niners despite the low scoring offense, that's for sure.
:goodposting:
 
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Just trying to ascertain how low Gore's current value is... Would you take Steve Smith(CAR) for Gore if you were the Gore owner?
I'd pass... Gore still has the potential to be a bellcow back though hasn't shown anything in 2011. If it were a slightly better WR like Jennings or VJax, I'd be hard pressed to keep Gore.
 
Just trying to ascertain how low Gore's current value is... Would you take Steve Smith(CAR) for Gore if you were the Gore owner?
I'd pass... Gore still has the potential to be a bellcow back though hasn't shown anything in 2011. If it were a slightly better WR like Jennings or VJax, I'd be hard pressed to keep Gore.
Slightly better? Maybe I am thinking Dynasty only but I can not imagine anyone offering Jennings or VJAX for Gore.
 
Was offered Gore, Starks and Julio for Dez and Finley.

According to the rankings, this is a steal for me. however, I don't feel right about it. We keep 4, which isn't included in the rankings.

 
What happened to Gore from last season to this season to make him so bad? The team is equally as suck as last season if not better. The offense is still built around him.

I had him last season he was great to the injury. He only fractured his right hip. This does not seem like it would be a injury that declines his skills so much right?

I have watched 2 49ers games this season. From what I have seen he has no where to run. Has there been some oline changes? Is it just Harbaughs new blocking scheme?

Hopefully he still can somehow pull out his 14GP 1300-1400 totalyds 40+ catch 6-8 tds I expected. Doubt it but still got a ways to go.

I will be benching him this week. Hopefully he turns it on soon.

 
What happened to Gore from last season to this season to make him so bad? The team is equally as suck as last season if not better. The offense is still built around him. I had him last season he was great to the injury. He only fractured his right hip. This does not seem like it would be a injury that declines his skills so much right?I have watched 2 49ers games this season. From what I have seen he has no where to run. Has there been some oline changes? Is it just Harbaughs new blocking scheme?Hopefully he still can somehow pull out his 14GP 1300-1400 totalyds 40+ catch 6-8 tds I expected. Doubt it but still got a ways to go.I will be benching him this week. Hopefully he turns it on soon.
I think I read somewhere that they changed blocking schemes. Suer appears that they have gone from opening up holes to no holes at all. Not sure if he looks slower yet. He can't get past the LOS before being gang tackled. OL totally sucks. harbug also seems to have no idea that Gore is good at catching passes out of backfield.
 
What happened to Gore from last season to this season to make him so bad? The team is equally as suck as last season if not better. The offense is still built around him.

I had him last season he was great to the injury. He only fractured his right hip. This does not seem like it would be a injury that declines his skills so much right?

I have watched 2 49ers games this season. From what I have seen he has no where to run. Has there been some oline changes? Is it just Harbaughs new blocking scheme?

Hopefully he still can somehow pull out his 14GP 1300-1400 totalyds 40+ catch 6-8 tds I expected. Doubt it but still got a ways to go.

I will be benching him this week. Hopefully he turns it on soon.
Phillys run D is 30th ranked....crappy LT Joe "Another OL Bust" Staley came out defending hte OL this week, "We don't suck, its the TEs and WRs and QBs and RBs not doing their job"...you'd think SF has to try and run against Phi to keep Vick off the field...Seems like a perfect storm of crappy run D + pissed off OL + conservative gameplan = success.

Which is why I'm benching Gore, too :bag:

 
2 Questions for everyone who is still high on Gore as a low end #1/high end #2 RB:

1) Have you watched him play this year?

2) Do you think he's a better option than all but one or two of the following 17 RBs going forward? AD, Rice, McFadden, McCoy, Foster, MJD, F-Jax, Forte, Mathews, Chris Johnson, Mendenhall, Hillis, Best, Beanie Wells, Daniel Thomas, Bradshaw, Turner (not even listing Hightower, S-Jax, Blount, Benson, who all have a case to be made)

 
In a 12 team PPR dynasty was offered Taiwan Jones/Dion Lewis for Gore and then Randall Cobb for Gore in two separate offers from the same owner today. I mean there's 'buy low' and then there's 'clearance sale' :rolleyes: Was also offered DeAngelo Williams and a 2012 3rd from the same owner earlier.

 
In a 12 team PPR dynasty was offered Taiwan Jones/Dion Lewis for Gore and then Randall Cobb for Gore in two separate offers from the same owner today. I mean there's 'buy low' and then there's 'clearance sale' :rolleyes: Was also offered DeAngelo Williams and a 2012 3rd from the same owner earlier.
I own both Deangelo and Gore. I'd take the Deangelo trade just to get the 3rd rounder. Deangelo = Gore = nothing.
 
In a 12 team PPR dynasty was offered Taiwan Jones/Dion Lewis for Gore and then Randall Cobb for Gore in two separate offers from the same owner today. I mean there's 'buy low' and then there's 'clearance sale' :rolleyes: Was also offered DeAngelo Williams and a 2012 3rd from the same owner earlier.
I own both Deangelo and Gore. I'd take the Deangelo trade just to get the 3rd rounder. Deangelo = Gore > 3rd rounder = nothing.
Fixed.If Gore's value is only a 3rd round rookie then I should have taken Cobb and smiled.

 
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2 Questions for everyone who is still high on Gore as a low end #1/high end #2 RB: 1) Have you watched him play this year? 2) Do you think he's a better option than all but one or two of the following 17 RBs going forward? AD, Rice, McFadden, McCoy, Foster, MJD, F-Jax, Forte, Mathews, Chris Johnson, Mendenhall, Hillis, Best, Beanie Wells, Daniel Thomas, Bradshaw, Turner (not even listing Hightower, S-Jax, Blount, Benson, who all have a case to be made)
I'm not high on Gore, but I am a Niners fan and acquired him in a couple leagues as what I thought at the time was a buy low :P From your list I like Gore better than Thomas, Turner, and Wells. I probably like him better than Hillis and Bradshaw long-term.Overall, the thing to consider is that this is a brand new offense. Look, I'm a fan, but I can acknowledge how brutal the offense is right now. But at the same time, I listen to Harbaugh, I keep up-to-date with offseason and inseason activities through various sources, I watch all the games, and I have to say it is better this year than the last two years. Maybe not for fantasy purposes on an individual basis, but the coaching and overall team success is MUCH better. We just don't make as many STUPID mistakes and it looks like a group of professionals out there. At some point, maybe as soon as a couple weeks, I think this has to translate over for individual, fantasy purposes. Right now it's impossible to tell if Gore or Hunter will be the beneficiary - both are sucking badly and no one can sit here and say with 100% certainty that Gore has lost a step and that Hunter is better than Gore - you can't tell me there are massive holes. I watch the Raider games, too, and Gore has not had near the massive holes to work with that McFadden has gotten from time to time.So my point is, if Gore can stay healthy (who knows about this ankle injury) there's a very good chance he's still the best RB on this team. And moreover, there's a very good chance that this team -- which I think is clearly the best in the West so far -- can work this out. For these reasons, there's no way I'd trade Gore for unproven/unexplosive options like Thomas, Turner and Wells. I think you should be as concerned about Hillis as you are Gore season-long, and I think Bradshaw in a continuing time share is a roll of the dice with relatively limited upside.
 
I did not get to see much of Gore this week. How did he look? I seen his stat line was good. I know the eagles have been weak against the run.

Whats everyone doing holding/selling?

 
The eagles have a terrible run D, so I'm not so convinced this past week was a start of a trend really. I'd still try to trade him if I could get value in return. I'd take Chris Johnson from Sabertooth for example.

 
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Thats the first time I've been able to watch him live this year, and he looked fantastic. Strong, quick, nice burst, and seeing the holes well. The Bucs Dline had been playing decent too.

 
Thats the first time I've been able to watch him live this year, and he looked fantastic. Strong, quick, nice burst, and seeing the holes well. The Bucs Dline had been playing decent too.
Wonder how much of that was tied to McCoy getting hurt early in the game. Although it was nice seeing Gore running wild again.
 
I watched the game and he looked good. The offensive line was really opening some gaping holes for him.(something they did not do the first few weeks) He looked like the Gore I remember from the last couple years. We also know the 49ers will be commited to the run all year.

I have been shopping him this week. Have had a few decent offers. I am sure after this game his stock will be much higher.

Whats everyone doing holding him or selling? What type of value would you want in return to trade him?

I am really on the fence here on this. After the first few weeks I was trying to move him hard and now I can probaly get his drafted value. Its a matter of does he keep it going or not I guess.

 

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