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From Fat to Fit 2025 - I Really Mean It This Time! (1 Viewer)

I'm reading your article Term and am stuck on the carb calcs. I'm 92 kilos, and walk about an hour a night. Maybe just under. So, per the chart, that's 5g/kg of carbs needed to keep glycogen stores at normal levels (it says 5-7, so I'm taking the low end). But 92*5 is 460g of carbs. Which would require 1840 carb calories a day. i.e. 92% of my total diet. Even 4g/kg would require 75% of daily calories to be carbs.

So what I think may be happening is that the combination of ~moderate exercise with the daily carb deficit depletes glycogen levels in long-term dieters. Maybe I (and other excercise + calorie deficit folks) really are in a deficit and our bodies hyperdrive glycogen when we inadvertently carb load? Is that plausible?
Sounds reasonable.

The sweet spot for carbohydrates (pun intended), mortality wise, is somewhere between 45-55% caloric intake (derived from the ARIC and PURE studies). For a 2K kcal diet, that's like more like 250g daily. So 460 seems like a lot, even if you are exercising regularly.

This is one reason I'm really interested to see the longterm fallout from current fad diets.
Maybe I missed it but as someone who is a proponent of the Mediterranean diet, shouldn't carbs from whole grains/fruit be distinguished from refined flour carbs?
The pun was not implying one should guzzle 250g of sugar, as processed foods + added sugar are not included in any healthy diet.

When I say carbohydrates, I mean fruits, veggies, legumes, and whole grains. Obviously, those contain other macronutrients as well, but the evidence suggests “good” carbohydrates should comprise most caloric intake.

A lot of junk nutrition advice is predicated on conflating carbohydrates with ultraprocessed foods, and simultaneously promoting unrestricted protein/fat. While only time will tell, I suspect we’ll see adverse health consequences from this trend, just as we saw bad stuff happen from low fat dogma decades ago.
 
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As I age (almost 51) I have noticed I am getting lazier and lazier. I am fine being lazy, but it has gotten a little out of hand recently. I haven't gained weight (although I should lose 10 pounds) and I still work out regularly (climb, run, tennis, bike, etc) but I have noticed that when I am not doing those things, I kinda just sit around. Rightfully so, it has annoyed my wife.

I am not a list maker. Barely have a list at work, kinda just rely on memory and emails and texts. But last week I decided I should try and accomplish a certain number of things a week. So I made a list up of things I am trying to do everyday. Goal is all of them, but I think if I get 7 or more of the 10, I am good. Here is what I came up with

1. Intermittent fast - 8 PM - 10 AM. Kinda cheating, cause I kinda always do this, but trying to avoid the getting high/drunk late night snacks
2. 6 minute stretch first thing in the morning
3. Exercise. Climb 2 times a week. Run 2 times a week. Lift 1 day. Yoga 1 day. Ride my bike 1 day.
4. Work on a house project. Have a hundred things - I used to take whole weekends to work on them, instead I am going to tackle a little bit each day
5. Declutter my life. Workshop is a mess with a million tools. Email inbox is a mess. Spend a little time each day tidying my life
6. In bed before 10 PM
7. Gallon of water a day
8. Hangboard for 5 minutes. I love climbing, but my finger strength is not where it should be.
9. Read for 30 minutes
10. Connect with wife (watch a show, make love, massage each other, go for a walk, dream big plans, etc)

It's only been a week and a half, but I have routinely gotten 9 of these things done a day. The in bed before 10 and the no food after 8 have been the ones I have missed most.

I am sure this list thing will only last a month or two, but I am hoping it changes bad habits.
Good idea. I see a couple 75 Hard enemies in there. I’m also planning on adding stretching, hangboard and house chores to my list.
 
Service dude we had come to the house asked me if I was a climber. On account of my calves and quads. Said I had a 'good frame'. Not necessarily who I expected to hear it from (NTTAWWI), but I took that as a win and ran straight to the bank with it.

Rocked in at 200.7 this morning. Fluky low weigh in, but sometime in the next couple weeks my #'s to start with a "1" for the first time in ~25 years.
Not sure what your frame admirer had in mind, but calves and quads aren’t high on the list of “climbing muscles”.
 
Normally when I'm on vacation I'll add a few pounds but not one in Boston, NH and especially NYC where I actually lost weight. The past week in NYC I've been averaging 26k steps daily. Makes me not feel bad about indulging in all that pizza and gelato. Gotta feed the machine 💪
Wow.. How do you find time to walk that much.. Good for you..

It can happen very easily in NYC when you're out and about (i.e. no car). Granted I was on vacation and not stuck in an office.
 
Service dude we had come to the house asked me if I was a climber. On account of my calves and quads. Said I had a 'good frame'. Not necessarily who I expected to hear it from (NTTAWWI), but I took that as a win and ran straight to the bank with it.

Rocked in at 200.7 this morning. Fluky low weigh in, but sometime in the next couple weeks my #'s to start with a "1" for the first time in ~25 years.
Not sure what your frame admirer had in mind, but calves and quads aren’t high on the list of “climbing muscles”.
Think he just wanted to smash
 
I tried the cheap straight magnesium from Costco a while back. Way to much elaxative for me. I stopped that supplement quickly.

Gonna try magnesium glycinate 500mg. Absorbs better. Helps with sleep. The primary reason I'm gonna try is the muscle recovery benefits.
 
As I age (almost 51) I have noticed I am getting lazier and lazier. I am fine being lazy, but it has gotten a little out of hand recently. I haven't gained weight (although I should lose 10 pounds) and I still work out regularly (climb, run, tennis, bike, etc) but I have noticed that when I am not doing those things, I kinda just sit around. Rightfully so, it has annoyed my wife.

I am not a list maker. Barely have a list at work, kinda just rely on memory and emails and texts. But last week I decided I should try and accomplish a certain number of things a week. So I made a list up of things I am trying to do everyday. Goal is all of them, but I think if I get 7 or more of the 10, I am good. Here is what I came up with

1. Intermittent fast - 8 PM - 10 AM. Kinda cheating, cause I kinda always do this, but trying to avoid the getting high/drunk late night snacks
2. 6 minute stretch first thing in the morning
3. Exercise. Climb 2 times a week. Run 2 times a week. Lift 1 day. Yoga 1 day. Ride my bike 1 day.
4. Work on a house project. Have a hundred things - I used to take whole weekends to work on them, instead I am going to tackle a little bit each day
5. Declutter my life. Workshop is a mess with a million tools. Email inbox is a mess. Spend a little time each day tidying my life
6. In bed before 10 PM
7. Gallon of water a day
8. Hangboard for 5 minutes. I love climbing, but my finger strength is not where it should be.
9. Read for 30 minutes
10. Connect with wife (watch a show, make love, massage each other, go for a walk, dream big plans, etc)

It's only been a week and a half, but I have routinely gotten 9 of these things done a day. The in bed before 10 and the no food after 8 have been the ones I have missed most.

I am sure this list thing will only last a month or two, but I am hoping it changes bad habits.

Christ, we’re a whole lot more alike than we are different.

I’m currently doing a very similar thing. Not smoking at night and in bed before 10 is the hardest.

Sobriety is so boring after awhile.
 
Other than a multivitamin and aomw
Fish oil I haven’t taken supplements in years but I’ve been exceeding routinely for awhile. I’ll look into the creatine thing a little more. Unused to take it 20 years ago in a red liquid vial that I would have to apply under my tongue.
 
Other than a multivitamin and aomw
Fish oil I haven’t taken supplements in years but I’ve been exceeding routinely for awhile. I’ll look into the creatine thing a little more. Unused to take it 20 years ago in a red liquid vial that I would have to apply under my tongue.
Creatine monohydrate is a game changer for me. If you take anything I believe that's the one.
 
Other than a multivitamin and aomw
Fish oil I haven’t taken supplements in years but I’ve been exceeding routinely for awhile. I’ll look into the creatine thing a little more. Unused to take it 20 years ago in a red liquid vial that I would have to apply under my tongue.
Creatine monohydrate is a game changer for me. If you take anything I believe that's the one.
I know this is a weight loss thread, but there are 4 supplements which have convincing data as ergogenic (performance enhancing) aids:

1. Caffeine
2. Creatine
3. Sodium bicarbonate
4. Beta-alanine
 
Sodium bicarbonate
:goodposting:

Muscle endurance hack

Eta. From an AI search:
"Athletes take sodium bicarbonate, also known as baking soda, to improve their performance in high-intensity exercise. It acts as a buffer against the buildup of hydrogen ions, which can lead to muscle fatigue and acidosis during intense physical activity. By buffering these ions, sodium bicarbonate helps maintain a more favorable intracellular pH level, allowing athletes to train harder and longer, and potentially perform better in short, high-intensity activities."
 
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Other than a multivitamin and aomw
Fish oil I haven’t taken supplements in years but I’ve been exceeding routinely for awhile. I’ll look into the creatine thing a little more. Unused to take it 20 years ago in a red liquid vial that I would have to apply under my tongue.
Creatine monohydrate is a game changer for me. If you take anything I believe that's the one.
Did you stick with a higher dose (10g)? I was curious if you noticed a difference.
 
Other than a multivitamin and aomw
Fish oil I haven’t taken supplements in years but I’ve been exceeding routinely for awhile. I’ll look into the creatine thing a little more. Unused to take it 20 years ago in a red liquid vial that I would have to apply under my tongue.
Creatine monohydrate is a game changer for me. If you take anything I believe that's the one.
Did you stick with a higher dose (10g)? I was curious if you noticed a difference.
I actually did stay on 10 and will continue. I did notice a little extra push so I'm staying on it.
 
No weight drop but up every morning with my routine. Today was 2.4 miles in 36 minutes

Diet diet diet

Yep, it really comes down to calories in to calories out. If one outweighs the other you'll either lose or gain weight. It's still really early in your journey so don't go crazy making judgements with the scale. However, your body seems to be telling you If you want to keep your current diet that you'll need to increase the workouts. However, keep the workouts and shave off a few hundred calories daily and watch the magic happen.
 
Other than a multivitamin and aomw
Fish oil I haven’t taken supplements in years but I’ve been exceeding routinely for awhile. I’ll look into the creatine thing a little more. Unused to take it 20 years ago in a red liquid vial that I would have to apply under my tongue.
Creatine monohydrate is a game changer for me. If you take anything I believe that's the one.
Did you stick with a higher dose (10g)? I was curious if you noticed a difference.
I actually did stay on 10 and will continue. I did notice a little extra push so I'm staying on it.

I also found 10gs worked best although I've seen more people upping their doses to 15-20g as well. This 5g universal dose recommendation seems like a carryover from the 90s and not something I'd treat as gospel. I seriously doubt a 200 lb man would have the same needs as a 120lb female.
 
Other than a multivitamin and aomw
Fish oil I haven’t taken supplements in years but I’ve been exceeding routinely for awhile. I’ll look into the creatine thing a little more. Unused to take it 20 years ago in a red liquid vial that I would have to apply under my tongue.
Creatine monohydrate is a game changer for me. If you take anything I believe that's the one.
Did you stick with a higher dose (10g)? I was curious if you noticed a difference.
I actually did stay on 10 and will continue. I did notice a little extra push so I'm staying on it.

I also found 10gs worked best although I've seen more people upping their doses to 15-20g as well. This 5g universal dose recommendation seems like a carryover from the 90s and not something I'd treat as gospel. I seriously doubt a 200 lb man would have the same needs as a 120lb female.
I've played around with as high as 20g and didn't notice the same difference as from 5g to 10g so I've stayed there. Sample size of one, but that was my experience. If i get bad sleep, or not enough sleep i will bump up to 20g based on what I've seen though as that might drive a higher need for brain atp. Agree that 5g isn't enough to affect brain levels and a hold over from possibly less research than we have now.

Eta I'm going to trial creatine with GAA (guanidinoacetic acid) added and see if it makes a difference.

 
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No weight drop but up every morning with my routine. Today was 2.4 miles in 36 minutes

Diet diet diet

Some of that is fat turning to muscle which weighs more. May not look like you’re losing weight on the scale, but you are.

Keep it up GB.

Maybe a little but I don't think he's doing strength training, just cardio which should lead to weight loss.

I said some. IIRC, Bell is still working up to running the whole time. Once he gets his sea legs back the lbs will fall off quicker.

We’re also not spring chickens. Shouldn’t push to extremes like he/we did when we were in our 20s and 30s. It’ll happen for him, just a tad slower.
 
Yeah I was lazy pos with injuries for the last 5 years....I'm sure some of my muscle in back and legs are reforming but no weights right now. Once I get back to a place I'm happy cardio/run wise I'll add some more stuff
 
Other than a multivitamin and aomw
Fish oil I haven’t taken supplements in years but I’ve been exceeding routinely for awhile. I’ll look into the creatine thing a little more. Unused to take it 20 years ago in a red liquid vial that I would have to apply under my tongue.
Creatine monohydrate is a game changer for me. If you take anything I believe that's the one.
Did you stick with a higher dose (10g)? I was curious if you noticed a difference.
I actually did stay on 10 and will continue. I did notice a little extra push so I'm staying on it.

I also found 10gs worked best although I've seen more people upping their doses to 15-20g as well. This 5g universal dose recommendation seems like a carryover from the 90s and not something I'd treat as gospel. I seriously doubt a 200 lb man would have the same needs as a 120lb female.
There are studies on weight based creatine dosing for muscle growth, whose results are inconsistent. They sometime include both “loading” and “maintenance” dosing. Moreover, needs seem to differ based on age, gender, and training status, among other variables.

It’s further clouded by (poorly supported) claims that creatine supplements positively impact brain and bone health.
Since the late 1990s, there has been substantial research investigating the beneficial effects of creatine supplementation on measures of muscle accretion and performance, bone structure, and brain function across a variety of populations. However, the optimal dose of creatine needed to achieve these benefits is unclear. Further, whether a ‘tissue-creatine dose relationship’ exists is unknown. In general, a creatine-loading phase (20 g/day for ≤ 7 days), with and without a creatine maintenance phase (i.e., 3–5 g/day) appears sufficient to produce skeletal muscle benefits. Alternatively, a relative dosing strategy of 0.10–0.14 g of creatine/kg/day appears to be a viable option, especially for healthy older adults. Beyond skeletal muscle, a small body of research shows that creatine supplementation can have favourable effects on measures of bone biology and structure in both disease state populations and healthy older adults. The relative dosing strategy of 0.10–0.14 g of creatine/kg/day and exercise training produces the most consistent bone benefits. From a brain perspective, both absolute and relative creatine dosing strategies are effective for increasing brain creatine levels but the optimal dosage and/or duration of ingestion to enhance brain function is unclear. Overall, there is evidence that ≥ 20 g/day or 0.3 g/kg/day for ≤ 7 days or ≥ 4 g/day for several months is likely required to increase total brain creatine concentrations. Confounding variables such as baseline (pre-supplementation) tissue creatine levels, muscle fiber morphology, bone remodelling/repair processes, brain bioenergetics, habitual dietary intake of creatine, biological sex, age, and physical activity likely dictate the dose of creatine required to produce a meaningful tissue response
So the optimal dose is unclear. The good news is, it’s pretty hard to overdose.
 
Yeah I was lazy pos with injuries for the last 5 years....I'm sure some of my muscle in back and legs are reforming but no weights right now. Once I get back to a place I'm happy cardio/run wise I'll add some more stuff
Your doing awesome. Once u get to the time when your wanting to add weights I recommend resistance bands. I spent 30 bucks and literally have everything I need.
 
Yeah I was lazy pos with injuries for the last 5 years....I'm sure some of my muscle in back and legs are reforming but no weights right now. Once I get back to a place I'm happy cardio/run wise I'll add some more stuff
Your doing awesome. Once u get to the time when your wanting to add weights I recommend resistance bands. I spent 30 bucks and literally have everything I need.
Thank you sir but I was a gym rat/athlete through school and into my 30s

I have every band & weight you could imagine 😂

I know what to do just haven't done it for so long. Outside running always hated it.

I could play ice hockey for hours but ask me to go run a mile I'd hate it lol but that was a long time and 50 pounds ago
 

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