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Yea really ... he was a decent enough character when he was just a wankless warrior - and that’s all he needed to be.shuke said:
I agree that Bran being the king is dumb, but throughout the entirety of the series, being the king (or queen without a king, Cersei) didn't necessarily make you all-powerful. See: Joffrey and Tommen. It is very easy to argue that the five most important characters on the show were Sansa, Aryan, Jon, Dany and Tyrion. Dany died halfway through the final episode, Tyrion dominated much of the final episode and ran the meeting in the 2nd to last scene, and the final sequence focused on the fates of Sansa, Arya and Jon. Tyrion was the biggest power player from start to finish in the Game of Thrones, and the Starks ultimately won the game. Bran got the crown, but he was still a supporting character at best (despite his importance to the NK story).
Robb tried to do it through force and also failed so don't think that's really a good comparison.
Does Grey Worm know this? I don’t see Grey Worm as the kind of guy that is in touch with current events.
He was in the room when they were making battle plans, no? I assume he had a gander at a map at some point?
Could he have been told that it does not really matter, because the Night's Watch will still be a place for bastards and other broken things - a prison of sorts - regardless of it's military purpose?
I figured that I had this wrong, so I googled. (I had it wrong.)
She was tempted:
Could Dany be similar? Drogon being the One Ring to rule them all...? Does that One Ring now fly free?
Night's Watch will never be obsolete. At the beginning of the series, White Walkers were just a myth. No one had seen them for a 1000 years. The Nights Watch had evolved from protecting the realm from White Walkers to protecting the realm from Wildlings. Sure there's a truce now, but anything can happen. There is always something to protect the realm from. It's main purpose was more like a halfway house for people to regain their honor and become productive members of society.
He also does NBA and College sports stuff. He's better than normal reactors because he is giving us a skit instead of just reacting to a video.
Man of Constant Sorrow...you knew nothing
I kill me!This is so good. Spot on
Pretty sure at that point in the story, a Stark could get whatever they wanted. The big wolf's head on the sail was a bit telling as well but feel free to gloss over the obvious.
The further removed I am from the ending the more I come to appreciate just what a total ### Bran really is. I get it if he doesn't possess prescient thought but jeez dude, did you really need to kill all of ####### Westeros to achieve your goal? And more importantly, how long ago in the story did Bran have this course of action mapped out? Ostensibly he would have known this for a while or at a minimum, suspected the potential outcome. I rescind my vote as Dany being the biggest villain on the show and crown the new ####### Bran the Broken. Maybe the NK was right after all?
Trying to think of a parallel to what these guys did. There have been shows where the ending was subpar for sure. Shows like Lost where the writing went of the rails pretty early on. But it seems like these guys were just tired of the show/fans so they rushed it and took a pass on actually developing plot points. It is a shame because the music, visuals, and acting was still fantastic. The two episodes they didn't write (particularly "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms") have dialogue as good as anything we have seen. But then they just rushed through the rest of it...lazily.
I think the characters were horrible and the actors some of the worst the show had. I cringed every time they had screen time.
I'm not saying Drogon can't physically do it, I'm saying he won't because he knows Jon is a Targ
Yep. Series began with a ranging north into the oncoming winter, ended with a ranging north into the oncoming spring. That was good.Damn. Finally powered through the 25 pages since Sunday morning. About what I expected.
One thing I didn't see mentioned (I might have missed it though, I skimmed most of the back and forth arguing)...
I appreciated the final scene's callback to the opening scene in 1.01, where the Night's Watch men were leaving the Wall and going in to the woods where they encountered the White Walker. Full circle. The wheel, if you will.
THIS...IS...BRILLIANT!!!!So basically they couldn't think of anything good for the season, so they just redid a handful of scenes from S1?
So basically they couldn't think of anything good for the season, so they just redid a handful of scenes from S1?
would've been awesome if Bran called back to the greatest King of them all, Bobby B and his dressing down of King's guard Jaime:
Huh, they didn't really stick out to me at all. Just thought it was an odd thing to jump on.
It sort of worked for Abrams with Star Wars: A New Hope redux, so why not?So basically they couldn't think of anything good for the season, so they just redid a handful of scenes from S1?
Remember when Danaerys unjustly burned people thinking she was doing something morally good (or at least defensible) but it turned out she wasn't, leading us to believe that she had a flawed moral perspective? Yeah, me neither. We supported every "dracarys" decision she made.
But in the end, didn't she say she was going to fight the army of the dead, before Jon bent the knee?
Best post of the last 20 pages, of which I am still catching up on. 
