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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (1 Viewer)

Sansa is gorgeous now
I am not a fan of red heads at all. That being said, she has certainly grown into a very beautiful young lady. I think she is 17/18 about now.
She is 19, and I don't get what you guys are seeing at all - and I usually dig redheads.
She has a beautiful face. In the show she does not have the chance to show off much more than that. But I saw some pictures of her in real life and more than a couple were very nice. She has a slim, sleek, tall- model kind of build with some great legs. Not usually my cup of tea. I usually like the dark (hair and skin) with curves but Sophie Turner (the young lady playing Sansa) is a very attractive woman.

Seperately, as a character, I have grown to like Sansa where as the first couple of seasons I was hoping she would get killed. It went from just disliking the character to sort of feeling bad for the character to actually liking the character. I think both the actress and character has really grown in more ways that just physical. In both the storytelling and the acting.

 
This line from EW's recap of the episode summed up the Dorne stuff nicely when describing the fight scene:

By Thrones’ usual expertly choreographed standards, the scene plays a bit confusingly. There’s one shot of a Sand Snake flipping over that looks like it was edited from two separate takes, Xena style
I couldn't place what it reminded me of, but Xena is perfect. The two fights they've had in Dorne look like they could be taken directly from the Xena show.

Really enjoying this season so far. I'm surprised there are people that are disappointed. I like how it is taking what seemed like random scenes from earlier on (Maergery walking in on her brother and that squire guy) and making them crucial scenes for twists in the plot.

I kept thinking as the queen was being drug off, no way in hell that happens while Joffrey is there. The guards even acted surprised. Didn't they start to take out their swords but Tommen called them off? For all the reasons that we hated Joffrey, at least he did something and was consistent about it. I really just feel sorry for this Tommen kid. Everyone is able to just walk all over him and he just lets it all happen, sitting around looking clueless and scared.

This show really is good at creating monsters for us to hate. Who's worse, Joffrey or Ramsey?

And I thought the last scene with Stansa was shot perfectly, I'm really glad they cut away, I probably would have fastforwarded it if they hadn't. Theon/Reek actor did a great job conveying the emotion that pretty much everyone felt. It's weird thinking that when Stansa first came on the show back in season 1 she was like 13.

 
Agree as well. For me the Dorne storyline has been the only turd in the stew.
Yeah I could so without it - but having said that Jamie and Bron are really good characters. So at least there is that. I hope Bron doesn't die from that fight though. Be a shame to lose him.
They made a point to show the blade cut Bron's arm (I think it was Bron's)...though it was very quick and seemingly minor. As the Viper's daughter, I'm guessing the little Snake also uses poison on her blades. Could be trouble for a fan favorite.

 
This show really is good at creating monsters for us to hate. Who's worse, Joffrey or Ramsey?
I'll go Ramsey.

Joffrey was a psycho but it was kind of born out of him being spoiled and feeling insecure. Ramsey is just ####ed in the head.

 
Sansa is gorgeous now
I am not a fan of red heads at all. That being said, she has certainly grown into a very beautiful young lady. I think she is 17/18 about now.
She is 19, and I don't get what you guys are seeing at all - and I usually dig redheads.
She has a beautiful face. In the show she does not have the chance to show off much more than that. But I saw some pictures of her in real life and more than a couple were very nice. She has a slim, sleek, tall- model kind of build with some great legs. Not usually my cup of tea. I usually like the dark (hair and skin) with curves but Sophie Turner (the young lady playing Sansa) is a very attractive woman.

Seperately, as a character, I have grown to like Sansa where as the first couple of seasons I was hoping she would get killed. It went from just disliking the character to sort of feeling bad for the character to actually liking the character. I think both the actress and character has really grown in more ways that just physical. In both the storytelling and the acting.
Too tall, skinny, and pale. No curves at all. Give me a ring after she spends a few weeks on the beach getting some sun and pounding a few cheeseburgers.

 
This show really is good at creating monsters for us to hate. Who's worse, Joffrey or Ramsey?
I'll go Ramsey.

Joffrey was a psycho but it was kind of born out of him being spoiled and feeling insecure. Ramsey is just ####ed in the head.
pretty interchangable, but IMO, Joffrey allowed the horrible stuff to bloom the more power he got. Ramsey appears to be completely ####ed in the head regardless.

 
I'm watching all the shows but at this point I've decided I don't like it enough to pay close attention to all these characters and storylines. I'm just enjoying it at a surface level. I know who everybody is and what their goals are but digging into every detail to understand the nuances is way too much work. I don't like it THAT much.

 
Regarding Tommen, the children characters in the books are much younger. I think the show runners are having a difficult time creating and older character for an older character (Tommen's only supposed to be around 6 or 7); and getting the same result: that being Cersei in de facto charge of him.

They've run into this problem a couple of times; particularly with Sansa.

 
I'm watching all the shows but at this point I've decided I don't like it enough to pay close attention to all these characters and storylines. I'm just enjoying it at a surface level. I know who everybody is and what their goals are but digging into every detail to understand the nuances is way too much work. I don't like it THAT much.
Heh, this show likes to remind me just how much I've forgotten about it. Completely forgot that Jorah Mormant's dad was the old Night's Watch commander who got ambushed by his own men.

 
This line from EW's recap of the episode summed up the Dorne stuff nicely when describing the fight scene:

By Thrones’ usual expertly choreographed standards, the scene plays a bit confusingly. There’s one shot of a Sand Snake flipping over that looks like it was edited from two separate takes, Xena style
I couldn't place what it reminded me of, but Xena is perfect. The two fights they've had in Dorne look like they could be taken directly from the Xena show.

Really enjoying this season so far. I'm surprised there are people that are disappointed. I like how it is taking what seemed like random scenes from earlier on (Maergery walking in on her brother and that squire guy) and making them crucial scenes for twists in the plot.

I kept thinking as the queen was being drug off, no way in hell that happens while Joffrey is there. The guards even acted surprised. Didn't they start to take out their swords but Tommen called them off? For all the reasons that we hated Joffrey, at least he did something and was consistent about it. I really just feel sorry for this Tommen kid. Everyone is able to just walk all over him and he just lets it all happen, sitting around looking clueless and scared.

This show really is good at creating monsters for us to hate. Who's worse, Joffrey or Ramsey?

And I thought the last scene with Stansa was shot perfectly, I'm really glad they cut away, I probably would have fastforwarded it if they hadn't. Theon/Reek actor did a great job conveying the emotion that pretty much everyone felt. It's weird thinking that when Stansa first came on the show back in season 1 she was like 13.
I was reminded of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles with the different weapons and the multiple fighters.

 
I'm watching all the shows but at this point I've decided I don't like it enough to pay close attention to all these characters and storylines. I'm just enjoying it at a surface level. I know who everybody is and what their goals are but digging into every detail to understand the nuances is way too much work. I don't like it THAT much.
Kind of the whole show is the characters and their motives etc. It is a Game of Thrones not Another Mindless Popcorn Show.

 
Agree as well. For me the Dorne storyline has been the only turd in the stew.
Yeah I could so without it - but having said that Jamie and Bron are really good characters. So at least there is that. I hope Bron doesn't die from that fight though. Be a shame to lose him.
They made a point to show the blade cut Bron's arm (I think it was Bron's)...though it was very quick and seemingly minor. As the Viper's daughter, I'm guessing the little Snake also uses poison on her blades. Could be trouble for a fan favorite.
I didn't like the fact that Bron couldn't take down one of those chicks.

 
I'm watching all the shows but at this point I've decided I don't like it enough to pay close attention to all these characters and storylines. I'm just enjoying it at a surface level. I know who everybody is and what their goals are but digging into every detail to understand the nuances is way too much work. I don't like it THAT much.
I don't mind all of the story lines. What kills me is when people talk about characters we haven't seen for a season and a half by name :lmao:

 
I didn't like the fact that Bron couldn't take down one of those chicks.
I agree. I think they were trying to show how good of fighters they were, that not even Bronn could take one. It just failed miserably and looked clunky.

I was curious to see if a lot of other people felt the same as we in the thread seem to with respect to the dorne story line. Some of the quotes from various show recaps around the net:

The Sand Snakes arrive at the same time, ready to seek vengeance for Oberyn by kidnapping (or killing) Myrcella, and end up battling Jaime and Bronn until axeman Areo Hotah shows up with the palace guards and arrests them all. It’s all very weird and rushed, another instance of a storyline created for the show that feels forced into place, rather than unfolding with the carefully orchestrated slow burn we’re used to onGame of Thrones. On a more mechanical level, the much-anticipated fight scene with the Sand Snakes feels oddly subpar, almost like it was ripped from the outtakes of Reign.
Then Ellaria’s girls enters the fray and it goes from Mexican stand-off to all-out melee in a scene that was not well directed.
By Thrones’ usual expertly choreographed standards, the scene plays a bit confusingly. There’s one shot of a Sand Snake flipping over that looks like it was edited from two separate takes, Xena style
"Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken" leaves season five in a tricky place. In some ways, this season has the potential to be one of Game of Thrones' finest — but for every plot strand that seems strong, there are several, like the continuing adventures in Dorne, that are weighted down with bad dialogue and flat characters.
 
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Agree as well. For me the Dorne storyline has been the only turd in the stew.
Yeah I could so without it - but having said that Jamie and Bron are really good characters. So at least there is that. I hope Bron doesn't die from that fight though. Be a shame to lose him.
They made a point to show the blade cut Bron's arm (I think it was Bron's)...though it was very quick and seemingly minor. As the Viper's daughter, I'm guessing the little Snake also uses poison on her blades. Could be trouble for a fan favorite.
Meh..... Crap you are right. They love poison.

 
"Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken" leaves season five in a tricky place. In some ways, this season has the potential to be one of Game of Thrones' finest — but for every plot strand that seems strong, there are several, like the continuing adventures in Dorne, that are weighted down with bad dialogue and flat characters.
I don't think it is the lack of cleavage that makes the sand snakes storyline bad.......

 
I was fully expecting Jamie to block the ax blow with his golden hand. That would have made that scene perfectly terrible. As it was, the whole "I am going to put my ax to your neck really really quickly and make you submit" thing was highly atrocious.

 
Stop kidding yourselves. Every one of us here would bang Sansa like a gong.
Bangable is nowhere near the same thing as gorgeous or hot.
Oh GTFO
I wouldn't call her gorgeous. More hot in a likely inaccessible way that makes you want her. I agree that bangable can be a step behind hot. Gorgeous is a subset of hot and bangable and hot is a subset of bangabe but bangable is not a subset of either.

 
Cripes, the innerwebs are exploding with the Sansa bed scene. It's like a fan civil war. Again, I admit I was rooting for Theon to wake up and kill Ramsey but the scene was really well done. And the fact that he didn't do it makes it all the more powerful. I thought it was a great scene.
Didn't care if Theon watched or interceded. What I wanted was some full frontal nudity. As a pervert, I found that scene terribly lacking.

 
The Xena reference is perfect. Everything about the Dorne storyline feels like something from Hercules or Xorn - shows I hated.

 
Stop kidding yourselves. Every one of us here would bang Sansa like a gong.
Bangable is nowhere near the same thing as gorgeous or hot.
Oh GTFO
I wouldn't call her gorgeous. More hot in a likely inaccessible way that makes you want her. I agree that bangable can be a step behind hot. Gorgeous is a subset of hot and bangable and hot is a subset of bangabe but bangable is not a subset of either.
Still dont get it, but different strokes and all.

I took a quick scan through of pics on imdb. She is usually the 3rd best looking of any group pic. IMO maybe the 7th or 8th best looking on the show. I think she hit a tall/awkward phase and it is just as probable she ends up looking more like Brienne since she has that taller build to grow into.

 
Ramsey vs Joffrey.

Ramsey doesn't do anything for me because he feels like he is so over the top awful it's not believable. He's like a characature of the most awful person imaginable.

Joffrey just felt like a real **** of a person. With evil in him

hard to explain it but I got more hatred in me from Joffrey

 
Ramsey vs Joffrey.

Ramsey doesn't do anything for me because he feels like he is so over the top awful it's not believable. He's like a characature of the most awful person imaginable.

Joffrey just felt like a real **** of a person. With evil in him

hard to explain it but I got more hatred in me from Joffrey
Agree, Ramsey has gotten almost cartoonishly evil. Joffrey wasnt afraid to do his #### in front of other people and humiliate them. Seems a bit worse for whatever reason.

 
Cripes, the innerwebs are exploding with the Sansa bed scene. It's like a fan civil war. Again, I admit I was rooting for Theon to wake up and kill Ramsey but the scene was really well done. And the fact that he didn't do it makes it all the more powerful. I thought it was a great scene.
maybe I was just looking for something, but as Theon/Reek was sniveling and shaking, it seemed like right before they cut to black he had a split second moment of clarity. if so, I guess it still could go either way...maybe the shock was enough to snap him back into Theon, or maybe it was enough to drive him deeper into Reek. I'm just curious if he'll be able to pull off one final noble act for Sansa before his probable horrific death that we can all see coming.

maybe not, though. he's kinda always been a turd.

 
Ramsey vs Joffrey.

Ramsey doesn't do anything for me because he feels like he is so over the top awful it's not believable. He's like a characature of the most awful person imaginable.

Joffrey just felt like a real **** of a person. With evil in him

hard to explain it but I got more hatred in me from Joffrey
Agree, Ramsey has gotten almost cartoonishly evil. Joffrey wasnt afraid to do his #### in front of other people and humiliate them. Seems a bit worse for whatever reason.
Agree on Ramsey. I thought he was a good character when he started torturing Theon, but now that he is an integral character, he just feels forced a bit now. Also, I have never really liked Reek's story. I loved his reaction to Sansa, especially last night, but I was never fond of the jump from the torture scenes to completely submissive Reek. It seemed like the jump was too quick and Ramsey just hasn't been as good lately. Joffrey was way more believable.

 
ooof, I purposely blocked out the whole "he has a birthmark that is the shape of Dorne" part until I was just reminded of it.

Terrible. Just Terrible.

 
Cripes, the innerwebs are exploding with the Sansa bed scene. It's like a fan civil war. Again, I admit I was rooting for Theon to wake up and kill Ramsey but the scene was really well done. And the fact that he didn't do it makes it all the more powerful. I thought it was a great scene.
maybe I was just looking for something, but as Theon/Reek was sniveling and shaking, it seemed like right before they cut to black he had a split second moment of clarity. if so, I guess it still could go either way...maybe the shock was enough to snap him back into Theon, or maybe it was enough to drive him deeper into Reek. I'm just curious if he'll be able to pull off one final noble act for Sansa before his probable horrific death that we can all see coming.

maybe not, though. he's kinda always been a turd.
I was thinking that Ramsey's choice to having Reek to give away the bride might come back to bite him. Pulling a knife on Ramsey as he is about to marry would have been the ultimate revenge even though it would have cost him his life. I mean really what does he have to live for anyway?

Instead it reinforces Reek as the coward that he is. Even when given ample opportunity and motivation he is just too much of a p***y to do anything against Ramsey.

 
Cripes, the innerwebs are exploding with the Sansa bed scene. It's like a fan civil war. Again, I admit I was rooting for Theon to wake up and kill Ramsey but the scene was really well done. And the fact that he didn't do it makes it all the more powerful. I thought it was a great scene.
maybe I was just looking for something, but as Theon/Reek was sniveling and shaking, it seemed like right before they cut to black he had a split second moment of clarity. if so, I guess it still could go either way...maybe the shock was enough to snap him back into Theon, or maybe it was enough to drive him deeper into Reek. I'm just curious if he'll be able to pull off one final noble act for Sansa before his probable horrific death that we can all see coming.

maybe not, though. he's kinda always been a turd.
I was thinking that Ramsey's choice to having Reek to give away the bride might come back to bite him. Pulling a knife on Ramsey as he is about to marry would have been the ultimate revenge even though it would have cost him his life. I mean really what does he have to live for anyway?

Instead it reinforces Reek as the coward that he is. Even when given ample opportunity and motivation he is just too much of a p***y to do anything against Ramsey.
Although he was never a particularly honorably character, I wouldn't call his current lack of action being a #####. The type of physical and mental torture he went through really removes any notion of bravery, honor or being a #####.

 
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Cripes, the innerwebs are exploding with the Sansa bed scene. It's like a fan civil war. Again, I admit I was rooting for Theon to wake up and kill Ramsey but the scene was really well done. And the fact that he didn't do it makes it all the more powerful. I thought it was a great scene.
maybe I was just looking for something, but as Theon/Reek was sniveling and shaking, it seemed like right before they cut to black he had a split second moment of clarity. if so, I guess it still could go either way...maybe the shock was enough to snap him back into Theon, or maybe it was enough to drive him deeper into Reek. I'm just curious if he'll be able to pull off one final noble act for Sansa before his probable horrific death that we can all see coming.

maybe not, though. he's kinda always been a turd.
I was thinking that Ramsey's choice to having Reek to give away the bride might come back to bite him. Pulling a knife on Ramsey as he is about to marry would have been the ultimate revenge even though it would have cost him his life. I mean really what does he have to live for anyway?

Instead it reinforces Reek as the coward that he is. Even when given ample opportunity and motivation he is just too much of a p***y to do anything against Ramsey.
Although he was never a particularly honorably carrier, I wouldn't call his current lack of action being a #####. The type of physical and mental torture he went through really removes any notion of bravery, honor or being a #####.
Maybe but the fact that he remembers and regrets the past says to me that he is not insane.

 
Ramsey vs Joffrey.

Ramsey doesn't do anything for me because he feels like he is so over the top awful it's not believable. He's like a characature of the most awful person imaginable.

Joffrey just felt like a real **** of a person. With evil in him

hard to explain it but I got more hatred in me from Joffrey
Agree, Ramsey has gotten almost cartoonishly evil. Joffrey wasnt afraid to do his #### in front of other people and humiliate them. Seems a bit worse for whatever reason.
Agree on Ramsey. I thought he was a good character when he started torturing Theon, but now that he is an integral character, he just feels forced a bit now. Also, I have never really liked Reek's story. I loved his reaction to Sansa, especially last night, but I was never fond of the jump from the torture scenes to completely submissive Reek. It seemed like the jump was too quick and Ramsey just hasn't been as good lately. Joffrey was way more believable.
I don't get this view. What do you mean it was too quick? I've seen other posters say it as well, "I just don't see how he went from Theon to Reek soo quickly". It wasn't so quickly, it was continuous, awful torture that was drug out over a long period of time. There was even a point where he allowed him to escape only to be brought right back, reaffirming that Ramsey was always in control. They showed pictures of Theon/Reek's back, absolutely covered in whip marks and other beatings. They showed Ramsey flaying the skin off his pinky finger and pulling his bone out. The man had his penis cut off. This took place over an entire season which seems to be about a year in time. I'm not sure how else they needed to portray that Theon is completely beaten down and broken, but I completely bought it.

 
Cripes, the innerwebs are exploding with the Sansa bed scene. It's like a fan civil war. Again, I admit I was rooting for Theon to wake up and kill Ramsey but the scene was really well done. And the fact that he didn't do it makes it all the more powerful. I thought it was a great scene.
maybe I was just looking for something, but as Theon/Reek was sniveling and shaking, it seemed like right before they cut to black he had a split second moment of clarity. if so, I guess it still could go either way...maybe the shock was enough to snap him back into Theon, or maybe it was enough to drive him deeper into Reek. I'm just curious if he'll be able to pull off one final noble act for Sansa before his probable horrific death that we can all see coming.

maybe not, though. he's kinda always been a turd.
I was thinking that Ramsey's choice to having Reek to give away the bride might come back to bite him. Pulling a knife on Ramsey as he is about to marry would have been the ultimate revenge even though it would have cost him his life. I mean really what does he have to live for anyway?

Instead it reinforces Reek as the coward that he is. Even when given ample opportunity and motivation he is just too much of a p***y to do anything against Ramsey.
Although he was never a particularly honorably carrier, I wouldn't call his current lack of action being a #####. The type of physical and mental torture he went through really removes any notion of bravery, honor or being a #####.
Maybe but the fact that he remembers and regrets the past says to me that he is not insane.
You can be broken without being insane.

 
What I think is really insane is the people who are outraged about the Sansa/Ramsay scene. Someone needs to tell them that this is fiction and fiction in a pretty messed up world where bad things happen all the time.

 
If this is the show runners taking over and leaving the books behind them this show is heading in a very bad place cuz this season had been a drain
Care to unpack? I am not a book reader, so I have no idea if they are staying true/jumping off. Did they change people or did they say they were changing things up? I watch the walking dead and I know they have strayed a bunch from the comics (they said so and some of the main characters didn't exist in the comics), but the general gist and path is the same. I don't read the comics, but they've said they were sticking to the main story lines. This show seems like one where you really would have to stick to the stories or you would be completely off. For instance, if LF is doing things he didn't in the book, it would be hard to correct the course if he ends up as warden of the north. The walking dead could easily just have character X play the role of a dead character and it wouldn't change a thing. You kill someone who does something huge in GOT at the wrong time and the connections to the book path could be gone.
Two major things in the show that don't ever happen in the books..

- Littlefinger and Sansa never go to Winterfell - Sansa is never up there to marry Ramsey. There is a 'fake Arya' that he marries, but no involvement with Littlefinger there.

- Jaime and Bronn never go to Dorne, Jaime instead heads north to deal with aftermath of the North's rebellion.
Well that sort of sucks and worries me. The second bullet has been the worst part of this season due to the sand snakes.Can you imagine how bad that stuff would be without them?
 
The Ref said:
What is interesting is it seems most people were okay with the season open till this last episode. I was down on the season until this last episode. I think a lot of conflict is now set in motion. I think the set up for the rest of the season is actually on a good foundation.
I wonder of a lot of people are like me and have been marathoning it up until this season. You tend to forget the setup episodes if watching 2 or 3 in a night. I think this is part of why I haven't enjoyed season 5 as much. But I'm willing to see how the whole thing plays out before passing much judgment.

 
The Ref said:
What is interesting is it seems most people were okay with the season open till this last episode. I was down on the season until this last episode. I think a lot of conflict is now set in motion. I think the set up for the rest of the season is actually on a good foundation.
I wonder of a lot of people are like me and have been marathoning it up until this season. You tend to forget the setup episodes if watching 2 or 3 in a night. I think this is part of why I haven't enjoyed season 5 as much. But I'm willing to see how the whole thing plays out before passing much judgment.
this season has basically been 6 episodes setting things up so its not the same IMO
 
Chadstroma said:
What I think is really insane is the people who are outraged about the Sansa/Ramsay scene. Someone needs to tell them that this is fiction and fiction in a pretty messed up world where bad things happen all the time.
and they probably loved the red wedding

 
Chadstroma said:
What I think is really insane is the people who are outraged about the Sansa/Ramsay scene. Someone needs to tell them that this is fiction and fiction in a pretty messed up world where bad things happen all the time.
and they probably loved the red wedding
Didnt Dany get raped on her wedding night too? Only difference is now we "care" about Sansa instead of just meeting Dany

 
Chadstroma said:
What I think is really insane is the people who are outraged about the Sansa/Ramsay scene. Someone needs to tell them that this is fiction and fiction in a pretty messed up world where bad things happen all the time.
Fiction, not unlike reality is ####ed up. ####ed up stuff happens literally every second of every day - forever.

 
Chadstroma said:
What I think is really insane is the people who are outraged about the Sansa/Ramsay scene. Someone needs to tell them that this is fiction and fiction in a pretty messed up world where bad things happen all the time.
and they probably loved the red wedding
Didnt Dany get raped on her wedding night too? Only difference is now we "care" about Sansa instead of just meeting Dany
There were lots of people that may have read something that does not exist that complained about that scene because they thought it was supposed to be consensual.
 
Chadstroma said:
What I think is really insane is the people who are outraged about the Sansa/Ramsay scene. Someone needs to tell them that this is fiction and fiction in a pretty messed up world where bad things happen all the time.
Fiction, not unlike reality is ####ed up. ####ed up stuff happens literally every second of every day - forever.
Not the same genre but the movie Storytelling really does a good job of showing this

 
The trial of Margeary's brother, including the eyewitness talking about the mark on his thigh, was highly reminiscent of the trial of Oscar Wilde. I wonder if the writers used that as an influence.

 
Chadstroma said:
What I think is really insane is the people who are outraged about the Sansa/Ramsay scene. Someone needs to tell them that this is fiction and fiction in a pretty messed up world where bad things happen all the time.
and they probably loved the red wedding
Didnt Dany get raped on her wedding night too? Only difference is now we "care" about Sansa instead of just meeting Dany
That's part of it, but we (the viewers) also still see Sansa as a child, whereas Dany was a woman very quickly. (The first time we saw Dany she was naked.)

 
Chadstroma said:
What I think is really insane is the people who are outraged about the Sansa/Ramsay scene. Someone needs to tell them that this is fiction and fiction in a pretty messed up world where bad things happen all the time.
and they probably loved the red wedding
Didnt Dany get raped on her wedding night too? Only difference is now we "care" about Sansa instead of just meeting Dany
That's part of it, but we (the viewers) also still see Sansa as a child, whereas Dany was a woman very quickly. (The first time we saw Dany she was naked.)
Yeah she was. :wub:

 
Chadstroma said:
What I think is really insane is the people who are outraged about the Sansa/Ramsay scene. Someone needs to tell them that this is fiction and fiction in a pretty messed up world where bad things happen all the time.
Fiction, not unlike reality is ####ed up. ####ed up stuff happens literally every second of every day - forever.
Not the same genre but the movie Storytelling really does a good job of showing this
Selma Blair is so ####### hot :popcorn:

 
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Chadstroma said:
What I think is really insane is the people who are outraged about the Sansa/Ramsay scene. Someone needs to tell them that this is fiction and fiction in a pretty messed up world where bad things happen all the time.
and they probably loved the red wedding
Didnt Dany get raped on her wedding night too? Only difference is now we "care" about Sansa instead of just meeting Dany
That's part of it, but we (the viewers) also still see Sansa as a child, whereas Dany was a woman very quickly. (The first time we saw Dany she was naked.)
Yeah she was. :wub:
Chadstroma said:
What I think is really insane is the people who are outraged about the Sansa/Ramsay scene. Someone needs to tell them that this is fiction and fiction in a pretty messed up world where bad things happen all the time.
and they probably loved the red wedding
Didnt Dany get raped on her wedding night too? Only difference is now we "care" about Sansa instead of just meeting Dany
That's part of it, but we (the viewers) also still see Sansa as a child, whereas Dany was a woman very quickly. (The first time we saw Dany she was naked.)
The first time we saw Dany she was naked, and 15.

 
Chadstroma said:
What I think is really insane is the people who are outraged about the Sansa/Ramsay scene. Someone needs to tell them that this is fiction and fiction in a pretty messed up world where bad things happen all the time.
Just imagine if they actually showed any of the act. Basically all just Reek reacting, which was great acting.

 

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