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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (2 Viewers)

Also not as sure as others Jaime is going to fall out with Cersei so easily. Is there not some plausible deniability he was thrown from the window/tossed out?  

Either way, I'm ####### hyped for next season.

 
packersfan said:
Not if Little Finger sees her first. :)

One thing that struck me was during Lyanna Mormont's big speech that swayed all the North leaders to rally around Jon a big part of it was saying how Jon was a Snow but he had Ned Stark's blood flowing in his veins. Should the North find out that isn't the case how much of a problem will that cause? And the No. 1 person who could find that out would seem to be Little Finger. It wouldn't surprise me if he already suspected Jon's true parentage and now that Sansa's shot him down he's got a good reason to expose Jon if that would be something to piss off those in the North.  
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Maybe - but that could be a reason for Jon and Daenerys to form an alliance of sorts - Targaryen and Starks together at last.

 
John Bender said:
Also not as sure as others Jaime is going to fall out with Cersei so easily. Is there not some plausible deniability he was thrown from the window/tossed out?  

Either way, I'm ####### hyped for next season.
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Considering he has a history of tossing people out windows?

 
Sinn Fein said:
Maybe - but that could be a reason for Jon and Daenerys to form an alliance of sorts - Targaryen and Starks together at last.
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Would be a long game item.  Dany wants to sit on the throne and win the Game. Jon wants to defend against the White Walkers - something Dany knows nothing of as far as we know.  

 
John Bender said:
Would be a long game item.  Dany wants to sit on the throne and win the Game. Jon wants to defend against the White Walkers - something Dany knows nothing of as far as we know.  
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Yeah, if it happens, I imagine there will be some type of dance where they oppose each other first, before uniting against the Night King.  Right now, Daenerys seems to be offering independence in exchange for fealty.  Not sure the North, in general, will be quick to bow to the Iron Throne.

 
culdeus said:
Who is left against the starks now other than the walkers that are anywhere nearby and care to do anything about it?
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Nobody.  Starks effectively control the North.  Lannisters won't know where to march - south to Dorne or north to Winterfell.

One small issue that Daenerys still has to deal with is the Iron Islands - but I expect her dragons can make quick work of Euron's fleet.

 
Sinn Fein said:
Maybe - but that could be a reason for Jon and Daenerys to form an alliance of sorts - Targaryen and Starks together at last.
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I definitely think they end up as allies. As I said before there's no reason for them to be enemies. And if Jon finds out who his true parents are and he's related to Dany (Aunt Dany) then he'll definitely want to be an ally with her. Plus I'm sure he would support her as the Queen of the Seven Kingdoms and then it's time to team up to face the White Walkers. 

 
shadyridr said:
So is Varys a wizard?
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At least in the books, and this should extend to the show now, the timelines in various locations aren't always running together.  In fact, there's a huge disclaimer at the beginning of Book 2 (I think) that mentions Perspectives are more important than Timelines in the books.  

It perhaps was a bit indulgent to show him regally standing at the head of a Danyship at the end, I get it, but it's not crazy if you just let go of the timeline think based on being in one episode.

 
John Bender said:
Also not as sure as others Jaime is going to fall out with Cersei so easily. Is there not some plausible deniability he was thrown from the window/tossed out?  

Either way, I'm ####### hyped for next season.
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She had him burned, don't think that is going to go over well with Jaime.   I wonder why she didn't just have him buried with the rest of the family?

 
Stoneys said:
John Bender said:
At least in the books, and this should extend to the show now, the timelines in various locations aren't always running together.  In fact, there's a huge disclaimer at the beginning of Book 2 (I think) that mentions Perspectives are more important than Timelines in the books.  

It perhaps was a bit indulgent to show him regally standing at the head of a Danyship at the end, I get it, but it's not crazy if you just let go of the timeline think based on being in one episode.
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Ain't no books.

 
the moops said:
I like that they play with our perceptions of time during an episode. 
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I assume that it takes time to paint sails and rig up ships with the dragon, plus get provisions and a bunch of Dothrakis who've never been on a boat before all loaded up and onto a thousand ships. Plus, the sailing scene could easily have taken place weeks after everything else on the show given that it was the final scene. Plenty of reasons why Varys could have made it to Dorne and back.

 
bentley said:
I assume that it takes time to paint sails and rig up ships with the dragon, plus get provisions and a bunch of Dothrakis who've never been on a boat before all loaded up and onto a thousand ships. Plus, the sailing scene could easily have taken place weeks after everything else on the show given that it was the final scene. Plenty of reasons why Varys could have made it to Dorne and back.
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Then shouldn't Theon and Yara have gotten to Meereen by then as well?

 
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Its obvious they're skipping over time passage for travel..  I mean, we didnt see all the northern lords travel up to Winterfell, or jamie travel back to Kings Landing.  Time passes, and unless they want something to happen on the journey, it's skipped.  

 
Dont go all nuts on me for asking this

Who the #### were the little kids killing everyone. Am I supposed to remember episode 3 of season 2 where they talked about them. 

Its was like a little rascal assassin squad

 
John Bender said:
From reddit

"Some of the ships in the end had Martell banners, Dany might have picked him up in Dorne and been on her way to Kings Landing. That or the last scene was months later."
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This is what I assumed happened. It would make sense that they sailed to Dorne to meet up with the rest of their allies.

 
Awesome episode. 

I'm gonna go against the grain here and say that last week was a little better, but only because the cinematography in the battle scene was unparalleled on any TV show ever (and very few movies). But that takes nothing away from this week. Simply brilliant. 

 
Honestly how does this not go down as the best show of all time on any list going forward, unless they totally botch the last couple seasons on a Dexter level of awful? 

 
Top to bottom incredible episode.  Everything I wanted in a season finale.  Plus Mountain about to go 50 Shades of Grey on dat a**.  

 
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