bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Hard to control them if you aren't riding them.....you only need one....plus CGI costs
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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (6 Viewers)
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kentric
Footballguy
Someone said that Dany wouldn't be able to control all three by herself to the extent she needed to.
El Floppo
Footballguy
but we also saw them torching very specific ships in slaver's bay- as a unit... without her even riding them.
this kind of thing is small, but these kind of inconsistencies in the inherent logic of the world they've created add up to diminishing the show... at least for me. still a giant fan, because the world is so incredibly immersive and complex, but after TWD, I get frustrated with writing that doesn't live up to what the show established early on.
kentric
Footballguy
packersfan
Footballguy
Jon's the one who gave Arya her sword. Of all the Starks they're the two who seemed to have the strongest connection. I agree Arya's destiny appears to reside with Cersei but assuming Jon and Arya reunite (which I gotta believe will happen) it's not a stretch to assume Arya would go to fight with Jon. There's the connection, her skills as a fighter and now a piece of steel that kills white walkers.
otb_lifer
Footballguy
didn't get to catch it 'til last night ...
figured it was time for Dany to make a big move, but is Drogon done? that was a hell of a shot Bronn got in - was cheering my ### off for that hit on the beast
Jaime's gettin' out of that drink alive, i'm pretty certain of that. but that was some beating his side just took ... major blow for Cersei.
for not seeing each other for six years, Arya/Sansa was very cold ... if not awkwardly distant. very weird dynamic there. wtf was up w/Sansa during the Brienne/Arya dance? bemused? bewildered? aloof? jealous? wtf?
yeah, Littlefinger is on borrowed time. Arya's dagger is the leader going into the clubhouse.
i'm warming more to the Snow kid ... dunno if he bent the knee in the cave, but i am growing more certain that he is gonna get his, no matter what 'his' is.
2/1 odds that GreyWorm goes down and Davos has a romp with Misandei. the old man is workin' it, no?
Jorah can't return soon enough ... though i am pro-Cersei, i dig Jorah at Dany's side.
don't think Tyrion is doubling down, but, man, Dinklage is so damn impressive - that scene of him watching the carnage was pure gold ... and i also have a sneaking suspicion that Bronn crosses over to Dany, reuniting with the Imp.
thought on Varys ...
was watching the tail end of s1, and then some of season 2 yesterday (it was streaming on Mobdro), and came in right at Varys' visit with Ned in the dungeon ... "i serve the realm, and all i want is peace" - that was the first time he uttered his mantra it in that scene, but they have made it paramount to have Varys repeat the same in at least a half dozen subsequent scenes, all with different characters (most recently with Dany, when he was spared at Dragonstone).
would not be shocked if he was left standing. the Eunuch who only wants peace. the Realm survives.
figured it was time for Dany to make a big move, but is Drogon done? that was a hell of a shot Bronn got in - was cheering my ### off for that hit on the beast
Jaime's gettin' out of that drink alive, i'm pretty certain of that. but that was some beating his side just took ... major blow for Cersei.
for not seeing each other for six years, Arya/Sansa was very cold ... if not awkwardly distant. very weird dynamic there. wtf was up w/Sansa during the Brienne/Arya dance? bemused? bewildered? aloof? jealous? wtf?
yeah, Littlefinger is on borrowed time. Arya's dagger is the leader going into the clubhouse.
i'm warming more to the Snow kid ... dunno if he bent the knee in the cave, but i am growing more certain that he is gonna get his, no matter what 'his' is.
2/1 odds that GreyWorm goes down and Davos has a romp with Misandei. the old man is workin' it, no?
Jorah can't return soon enough ... though i am pro-Cersei, i dig Jorah at Dany's side.
don't think Tyrion is doubling down, but, man, Dinklage is so damn impressive - that scene of him watching the carnage was pure gold ... and i also have a sneaking suspicion that Bronn crosses over to Dany, reuniting with the Imp.
thought on Varys ...
was watching the tail end of s1, and then some of season 2 yesterday (it was streaming on Mobdro), and came in right at Varys' visit with Ned in the dungeon ... "i serve the realm, and all i want is peace" - that was the first time he uttered his mantra it in that scene, but they have made it paramount to have Varys repeat the same in at least a half dozen subsequent scenes, all with different characters (most recently with Dany, when he was spared at Dragonstone).
would not be shocked if he was left standing. the Eunuch who only wants peace. the Realm survives.
packersfan
Footballguy
I'm not seeing that as an issue anymore. Everything is really converging and the storylines are coming together. It's one of the things about this season I've liked the most.
packersfan
Footballguy
I've always liked him and his
at Missandei and cracking wise at Dragonstone has only upped the respect. It's great to see him becoming something other than so stern all the time.
Spin
Footballguy
Was one of the best call backs on the show.
Between Arya and the Hound:
Arya Stark: My sword. Needle.
Sandor 'The Hound' Clegane: [derisively] Needle. Of course you named your sword.
Arya Stark: Lots of people name their swords.
Sandor 'The Hound' Clegane: Lots of c----.
Jaime and Olenna:
Olenna: How will you do it? With that sword? That was Joffrey's sword wasn't it? Not that he ever used it. What did he call it?
Jaime: Widow's Wail
Olenna: He really was a c--- wasn't he?
packersfan
Footballguy
Most people probably wouldn't. Doesn't make it less important or any less significant for those who did.
There are a million things going on in this series so remembering everything all the time is pretty difficult.
I love all the callbacks. I like the little touches that are connecting the dots from what's happened before to what we're seeing now. For example, think about how much of Dany's speech to Jon about swallowing his pride for the good of his people sounds like what Jon said to the Wildlings? I don't think that's a coincidence. So many things are coming full circle and I love it.
packersfan
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The Indestructible
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Bob Sacamano
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Bob Sacamano
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otb_lifer
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Forgot about that, and a great call here. Maybe they are more unruly now that they are teenagers?
Agree 100% on the 2nd bolded too. I think combine that with what I feel are writing shortcuts and eyerolling moments more and more, and it's just not up to the level of the first few seasons. I get that this is a time constraint issue, but stuff like silly cave painting are used now where as I feel at the start of the show that trust between Dany and Jon would have been built up a better and more natural way.
Like we keep saying, it's still great, we still are on board, but they set the bar so high for me in the first 4 seasons that it's hard not to notice these things slightly chipping away at the quality.
kentric
Footballguy
Considering the Red Witch mentioned his death (albeit without detail on timing), I highly doubt that he lives to the end.
otb_lifer
Footballguy
kentric
Footballguy
She is the Louise Mensch of GOT. Sometimes she gets good info - but can't interpret it for ####.
Rick James
Footballguy
ORRRR......she wanted to accomplish the task at hand with the minimum effective dose (1 dragon) instead of rolling up on Westeros with all 3.
packersfan
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packersfan
Footballguy
Interesting take on Drogon possibly factoring into Jon finding out who he really is.
http://time.com/4890649/game-of-thrones-jon-snow-dragon-daenerys/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=winteriscoming
http://time.com/4890649/game-of-thrones-jon-snow-dragon-daenerys/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=winteriscoming
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I agree with most of what you are saying, I guess I am just saying that all of them aren't equal. I didn't consider the scene they might be calling back to all that important from S1. IMO the scene with the guards was clunky and out of place. Callbacks that I am on board with are the ones like Bran quoting LF back to him: hardcore fans probably tied that in right away, it meant something to the story, and general fans didn't need to remember it to get the feel of the scene. Or Davos correcting Jon like he did Stannis. Again, just opinion and preference.
KarmaPolice
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packersfan
Footballguy
See for me the Davos thing to Jon, while entertaining, was far less meaningful than Arya and the guards.
Different strokes and all.
culdeus
Footballguy
Do you buy the callback for the Bran/Jamie falling as legit, and what would you make of it being inverted between the two?
hmmf...its been so long since I actually read the books now, I don't remember whats in them related to Lord of the Light and the Night King.
encaitar
Footballguy
I liked the Davos line. It shows the growth of his character. Three seasons ago he didn't know how to read and now he's correcting someone's grammar, just like his former liege used to do. The former smuggler has come a long ways and it shows.
packersfan
Footballguy
Oh I liked it too. A lot. Just saying that if I had to rank callbacks it would be below Arya and the guards.
But I enjoyed both a lot and like you, I love how Davos' character has grown.
otb_lifer
Footballguy
he has become one of my favorites, his arc with Shireen really touched me. he's sticking around and growing more and more prominent.
toss this dude a couple bones, please:
1) destroy Milasandre
2) dalliance with Missandei
in that order, TIA
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Has anyone noticed red witch NOT wearing her necklace but she's still young and smoking hot?
That should keep some of you awake tonight.
That should keep some of you awake tonight.
the moops
Footballguy
KP - It is fine to point out inconsistencies and want to talk about them. However, you take it to such an extreme that is is highly annoying. You make sure to tell us that you love the show and stuff, but soon enough, all you do is ##### about timelines and writing and blah blah
Still love ya though
Still love ya though
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I don't feel I am pointing out anything more than others have been, but I will tone down the frequency of my posts since I seem to be the main person that people feel is overly negative. I am a stay at home dad that has too much time on his hands, so I tend to post and answer posts more than I should. Wife detests the show, so this is my outlet.
IrishTwinkie
Footballguy
Humor attempt failure on my part. I wasn't being serious. There was a great outpouring of angst when Syrio met his fate vs the KingsGuard. Who brings a wooden sword to a sword fight anyway? Many folks wanted him to somehow live and invented all sorts of theories about how he could have survived the encounter. One of them was that Syrio was the faceless man/Jagen and got himself into that cart going north to take the Black and continue looking over Ayra. I was just trying to point out how her answer "Noone" supported that looney theory. Back the regularly scheduled Monday morning commandering/TV show directing.
Armed and armored men can't cross a river in the 60 or so seconds warning they had. The real failure was in the scouting, not the desperate stand
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Personally, I think that is people on Reddit with even more time on their hands than I do, but that's just me. I could be missing something, but I don't see the similarity in the theme, just that it looks the same.
Good Posting Judge
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encaitar
Footballguy
Gr00vus
Footballguy
There aren't hordes of white walkers, there's maybe a couple hundred - the show has only shown us about 10 or so. There are hordes of wights/zombies. She wouldn't be fighting the wights, she's be taking down a few of the white walkers. This of course assumes they could figure out some way to give her and the other valyrian weapon bearers a somewhat clear path to the white walkers through the wights. Given that the wights are extremely vulnerable to fire, I wonder how you might accomplish such a thing...
Gr00vus
Footballguy
My understanding is that the cost is a problem, the main driver being the enormous changes in the salaries being paid to the principle actors from when the show started to now. Kit Harrington, Emilia Clarke, Sophie Turner, etc. were getting paid peanuts at the outset, now they've become 7 figure per project stars (maybe more). That's why they've shortened the last two seasons.
jdoggydogg
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Chadstroma
Footballguy
Gotcha.
I don't put it outside the realm of possibility but I think it is unlikely. I don't think there is anything we have seen that would rule it out though I don't think it is likely. I guess that is why I didn't get the humor in that though I don't hold that theory, I am aware of it and haven't ruled it out in my own head.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
I think the point there was to illustrate that the Stark guards/troops aren't the greatest at this point. They beat us over the head with that a scene or two later via Arya's dialog. I imagine that's going to have some bearing on future events.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
My biggest question.... why would Jaime not say "HEY! Get the Scorpion!" right when he saw the big huge flying lizard with big teeth? He waits until basically his entire army has been routed before saying "Oh yea, maybe we should try that one weapon we have that was specifically made to take this guy on?"
