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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (5 Viewers)

hagmania said:
I'm up for this as a thought experiment and creative endeavor, but I think the parameters aren't great. My first choice would be to take the first three episodes of Season 8 and attach them to Season 7. It was a conscious choice by D&D to:

  • stop at Season 8 - honestly probably the right call
  • only make 13 episodes instead of 20 - honestly probably not the right call
I would prefer to go back to Season 5 or 6 and introduce Young Griff even, but I do need to accomplish some work between now and September.
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Ha!  I’d be interested in what you put together, after you retire of course.

 
The scene in the small council chamber was awesome imo.

It didn't start as a meeting.

It started with tyrion considering the chair of the hand at the small council table.  The chair where he had once sat. Then his father before tyrion killed him.  Then cersei even when she wasn't technically the hand.  Then qyburn. And Tyrion had been hand to dany before telling jon to commit treason.  

There was a lot to think about in that moment. 

Then he moved the chairs.  Reminiscent of the scene where they all vied for a seat at tywin's table. And all the scheming they did. 

But he's not moving all of the chairs to sit in them.  He's pushing them in, one by one.  Qyburn, killed by the mountain.  Pycelle, killed by qyburn. Littlefinger, the starks. Varys, dany. Mace tyrell, by cersei. Each chair pushed back to the table, empty. 

Then he considered the newly straightened table.  He was hand now, and he was making order for himself. 

Then the small council arrived. 

 
tommyboy said:
this confirms my theory no great show should go more than 5--6 seasons.
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I think Deadwood at 2 seasons is the gold standard.  GOT had some decent moments, and I have no problem with Seinfeld, MASH and the like doing more or less the same jokes for a decade or more, but for me there has never been a tv story that really needed a 3rd season.

 
CletiusMaximus said:
I think Deadwood at 2 seasons is the gold standard.  GOT had some decent moments, and I have no problem with Seinfeld, MASH and the like doing more or less the same jokes for a decade or more, but for me there has never been a tv story that really needed a 3rd season.
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Babylon 5 was near perfect at 4 seasons for me (in terms of an arc story).

 
CletiusMaximus said:
I think Deadwood at 2 seasons is the gold standard.  GOT had some decent moments, and I have no problem with Seinfeld, MASH and the like doing more or less the same jokes for a decade or more, but for me there has never been a tv story that really needed a 3rd season.
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Didn't Deadwood have 3 seasons?

 
eoMMan said:
So what are the spin-off(s) going to be about?

What character(s)?

Prequel or continuation?
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5 spinoffs were proposed

1 has been cancelled out right

3 are in early development

There is only 1 spin off that has made it to be greenlit for a pilot (only a pilot, not a season).

The story is set 8000 years before Game of Thrones season 1 and will focus on The Long Night (GRRM wants this to be the name of the show but it is not yet set).  

 
The Dude said:
How hard would it have been to given us in this last episode:

Arya vs Sersie

Tyrion choose trial by combat

Jon vs Greyworm

Dany goes nuts

Bran wargs a dragon

Jon claims and abdicates the throne to Gendry - who should have taken Sansa as his wife - instead of messing with tom boy
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That would have sucked. 

Arya vs Cersei isn't a fight.  It's either an assassination, or it's arya vs the mountain, or arya vs jamie.  Very hard to kill Cersei without it looking like a murder, even if it's justified.  But dany killing Cersei - we were rooting for that, until we weren't. 

Trial by combat is played out. Besides, tommen, first of his name outlawed the practice. 

Jon wasn't a villain.  Grey worm wasn't either.  I don't want to see that fight. 

We didn't see dany "go nuts". We saw something more terrifying - ruthlessness and the belief that she was in the right.  

Bran controlling a dragon would have been neat for a minute.  

Sansa and gendry makes no sense.  They didn't know each other at all.  Arya and gendry, sure.  The conversation between Robert and Ned about joining their houses made you think it would be cool if they got together, but it was even cooler that arya said no. For sansa to take that on like yet another arranged marriage would have been terrible.  

I have no need to see jon fight anyone else. I've seen it.  He's a great fighter. Watching arya fight the dead like a mini Mountain was cringey.  They needed to do something new, and they did.  They gave us a vision for life after the wheel was broken.  It wasn't what people expected but it was right.

I'm not saying it was a perfect finale and i would have liked more time and better dialog with the remaining characters but i really like what they did.  

 
NewlyRetired said:
5 spinoffs were proposed

1 has been cancelled out right

3 are in early development

There is only 1 spin off that has made it to be greenlit for a pilot (only a pilot, not a season).

The story is set 8000 years before Game of Thrones season 1 and will focus on The Long Night (GRRM wants this to be the name of the show but it is not yet set).  
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Think i read somewhere the working title is bloodmoon.....

Not sure how i feel about a prequel....usually better to just stick with the original....lotr vs the hobbit....etc.....starwars

 
Sinn Fein said:
One more random thought - other than because the TV audience liked the character - how did Bronn end up on the small council?   I get that he was given lands, castles and titles - but a seat on the small council - as master of coin, no less, seems like a bad idea.

And, given his desire to repair the brothels before other things - is that an indication that despite all the changes, nothing really changed - good king + bad advice = bad for the small folk.
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It's why the sitcom The Small Council will be must watch TV. 

Oh, that Bronn!!!

 
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I am bracing for the run of "Netflix ruined how we talk about shows" articles.  

HBO has nothing in their pipeline and neither do any networks. It's sad.  I sort of like the weeklies. 

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
All of episode 2 was dialogue and it was great imo....yet people complained....tyrion and jon last night was great....
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I thought the complaint was in hindsight the episode didn't mean much because all the major players survived laying in the piles of zombies.   I think Ep2 and Ep4 were two of the better episodes of the last couple seasons.  

 
El Floppo said:
I've been emotionally attached the show- and all the characters. when the writing went weak- and yes, these are little things, but they all add up- it created a detachment from the show and characters for me. still a big fan of the over-all show, but this last season and into last season felt like too many poorly written moments that hadn't been there as obviously in previous seasons. dropped the overall level for me. 
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Exactly.  

 
Good Posting Judge said:
GOT Season 8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Westworld Season 2
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My #### I took this morning >>>>>>>>>>>>>  Westworld Season 2

BUT 3#!~

 
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I really thought that when Grey Worm said, "That's not enough" about Tyrion's punishment that he was going to demand that he be made a eunuch.   

 
culdeus said:
I am bracing for the run of "Netflix ruined how we talk about shows" articles.  

HBO has nothing in their pipeline and neither do any networks. It's sad.  I sort of like the weeklies. 
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His Dark Materials, it done right will have some heads spinning. The movie The Golden Compass back in 2007 had the religious right fuming. This series will be all three books in, 3 maybe 4 seasons as of right now and they have some big names cast in it. This will be awesome if they stay true to the books, which all indications point to them doing so. 

 
tommyboy said:
would rather have seen some acknowledgement that Jon actually was the King.  They just glossed over that minor detail
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He sorta did...by not eating/cooking him. I thought it was kinda brilliant.

bostonfred said:
Holy crap that was awesome
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And posted about 34 pages ago on Friday :D I still clicked it again.

Can I make a motion here? If you feel the need to start your post "sorry if this is a repost" don't. It is. probably from months ago. But it's ok because most everything in this thread is awesome now that the show is over.

 
Can anyone break down how the conversation went with John and the unsullied?

"If I tell you something do you promise  not to be mad? Uhh I kinda murdered  the queen."

 
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