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Farve garbage time points
ATC1
Footballguy
Held your breath for a second there?Garbage time stats for Farve and he's back in the MVP race.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Middle of the pack as far as points against...though, they can be thrown against.Just think one bad game is not a sign of anything being exposed.
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
Seriously...for just a second I was absolutely soul crushed. I thought it was #18. But, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, ty Harvin!!!Held your breath for a second there?Garbage time stats for Farve and he's back in the MVP race.
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prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
guess not
flapgreen
Footballguy
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
YES! Playoffs baby!
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
I also rolled the dice by starting Warner over Big Ben. Thankfully, he rewarded me for the risk!
EdwardCat
Footballguy
I sure am. AZ figured out how to stop both the run and the pass. Childress' play calling is far too predictable. We've clearly been exposed. As a fantasy owner, I still see the passing game as somewhat valuable but they take a hit. Peterson just continues his downward slide with this game. I would STRONGLY encourage you to bench Peterson against Cincy next week if you have decent RBs with better matchups.
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
T&P's to EJ!
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Feel bad for the Vikes, but don't start with the excuses already.
EdwardCat
Footballguy
It isn't just that Peterson doesn't have anywhere to run (which is simply the case). It also has to do with when the Vikings run. If they don't get a solid 1st down run of 6+, they will invariably pass the ball on second down. When they get their next 1st down, odds are fairly high they will run again. He's being attacked in the backfield. He's being swarmed on the outside. There are no running lanes. He also gets pulled on every 3rd down which means there's no opportunity for a possible run for him there. He's going to run on 1st and 2nd down...that's it. It is hard to call him the best back in the game when he's pulled on every 3rd down and many goalline packages.
did you see the one replay they showed? His leg was doin some flippin and floppin ... he is done for a while
Mr. Yuk
Footballguy
1. Need a new O-line coach. This zone blocking thing is a terrible choice for the type of players we have and we've gotta be one of the worst run blocking teams in the league.2. Correct on playcalling, totally unimaginative and predictable, as always. Almost no one was in favor of extending childress and I still don't know why they did it now. With the talent on this team he needs to at least win a playoff game to deserve an extension...especially with the proven HCs that are going to be available this offseason.
flapgreen
Footballguy
I'd be ecstatic if the Bears had any of these
vikingdave
Footballguy
fractured femur, staying for surgery overnight...
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Sad but true.
Normal don't say much about my favorite team, but last night hurt. Vikings Def is not the same with out EJ (pray everthing will be ok) and now we are looking at Winfield,EJ,Johonson all out for Cin hurts this Def a lot. THe Oline would be rather weak if both Phil Loadholt and Bryant McKinn are out.Was thinking 14-2 now hoping for 12-4 and healthy team for the playoffs. Still think it will come down to saints and vikings.... And I will have root for the underdog of course!
ATC1
Footballguy
The femur? Oh Snap!!! Probably did not have an air cast big enough for the femur. You need to imobilize the upper and lower joint (knee and hip). To immobilize the hip, you would need to cast the enitre lower body.
Kuz
Footballguy
Horrible game for the Vikes. Not only did we play like crap but our best linebacker is out for the year.. It's only one game but I didn't like the fact that Warner just stood back there all day & we didn't get any pressure at all. That doesn't bode well if we do in fact have to try & beat the Saints in the Superdome.. Cards looked great though. Offense & Defense.. Hats off to them. Not sure I want to face them in the playoffs. Please give us the Cowboys instead...
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
Yeah, I hope they bench him and go with Tarvaris this week!
Hopefully the guy makes a full recovery. At the very least, I'd like to see him recover without any issues to that leg.Hardest bone to break. I was surprised they replayed the incident. I first though it was a lower leg injury the way his leg swung around. Pretty gross.basher said:
vikingdave
Footballguy
Henderson is back by training camp next year
Doctor: Henderson should be back for 2010
By Sean Jensen
sjensen@pioneerpress.com
Updated: 12/07/2009 10:47:29 PM CST
Cardinals 30, Vikings 17
E.J. Henderson suffers season-ending fractured leg in Vikings' loss
Twin Cities doctor who has worked with the United States ski team said Vikings middle linebacker E.J. Henderson's fractured femur likely would not end his career and that he could run in about two months.
"Assuming everything is as it should be, my guess is he'll be participating in training camp," said David Thorson, a physician who works with the St. Paul Saints, Twin Cities Marathon and the U.S. ski team. "The bone heals fast, and he's a healthy guy."
Thorson said the femur — the longest and strongest bone in the body — should heal in six to eight weeks and that Henderson could resume running in eight to 12 weeks.
Athletes, though, typically need about nine months to fully recover from the fractured femur.
"There's a physical recovery and a psychological recovery," Thorson said. "Sometimes, the psychological takes longer."
Thorson said he has worked with six professional athletes — most of them skiers — who suffered fractured femurs and all of them returned to competition the next season. Thorson noted that skiers put much more stress on the leg than a football player because of the centrifugal force.
"Every athlete I've had was competing at a high level after (successful surgery) and competing at a high level a year later," Thorson said. " "They're not 100 percent back, but they're back doing what they need to do."
Thorson watched the Vikings' 30-17 loss Sunday to the Arizona Cardinals and saw Henderson's injury.
Like many fans and teammates, Thorson was horrified by the unnatural bend of Henderson's left leg.
"I said this isn't good the way the knee went," Thorson said.
But after learning that Henderson had a fractured femur, Thorson said the player should feel fortunate that he didn't suffer a serious knee injury.
"In some respects, this may be better news than other injuries," Thorson said. "(Major knee injuries) can be more difficult to recover from."
Thorson said there was a specific reason Vikings team physician Joel Boyd was holding Henderson's leg in place, while a motorized cart slowly left the University of Phoenix Stadium field. Boyd was trying to prevent muscle spasms and further damage.
Vikings coach Brad Childress said Henderson underwent successful surgery Sunday night at a hospital in Phoenix and was in "good spirits." Thorson said he is confident a compression rod was surgically inserted into Henderson's left leg to stabilize the bone as it heals.
A hard cast, Thorson said, is not an option.
One of the positives of the injury is that an athlete can immediately start to rehabilitate his knee and hip, Thorson said.
Henderson is expected to return to the Twin Cities later this week, Childress said.
"He's a Spartan," Childress said. "I wish him the best in his rehab and his care."
Doctor: Henderson should be back for 2010
By Sean Jensen
sjensen@pioneerpress.com
Updated: 12/07/2009 10:47:29 PM CST
Cardinals 30, Vikings 17
E.J. Henderson suffers season-ending fractured leg in Vikings' loss
Twin Cities doctor who has worked with the United States ski team said Vikings middle linebacker E.J. Henderson's fractured femur likely would not end his career and that he could run in about two months.
"Assuming everything is as it should be, my guess is he'll be participating in training camp," said David Thorson, a physician who works with the St. Paul Saints, Twin Cities Marathon and the U.S. ski team. "The bone heals fast, and he's a healthy guy."
Thorson said the femur — the longest and strongest bone in the body — should heal in six to eight weeks and that Henderson could resume running in eight to 12 weeks.
Athletes, though, typically need about nine months to fully recover from the fractured femur.
"There's a physical recovery and a psychological recovery," Thorson said. "Sometimes, the psychological takes longer."
Thorson said he has worked with six professional athletes — most of them skiers — who suffered fractured femurs and all of them returned to competition the next season. Thorson noted that skiers put much more stress on the leg than a football player because of the centrifugal force.
"Every athlete I've had was competing at a high level after (successful surgery) and competing at a high level a year later," Thorson said. " "They're not 100 percent back, but they're back doing what they need to do."
Thorson watched the Vikings' 30-17 loss Sunday to the Arizona Cardinals and saw Henderson's injury.
Like many fans and teammates, Thorson was horrified by the unnatural bend of Henderson's left leg.
"I said this isn't good the way the knee went," Thorson said.
But after learning that Henderson had a fractured femur, Thorson said the player should feel fortunate that he didn't suffer a serious knee injury.
"In some respects, this may be better news than other injuries," Thorson said. "(Major knee injuries) can be more difficult to recover from."
Thorson said there was a specific reason Vikings team physician Joel Boyd was holding Henderson's leg in place, while a motorized cart slowly left the University of Phoenix Stadium field. Boyd was trying to prevent muscle spasms and further damage.
Vikings coach Brad Childress said Henderson underwent successful surgery Sunday night at a hospital in Phoenix and was in "good spirits." Thorson said he is confident a compression rod was surgically inserted into Henderson's left leg to stabilize the bone as it heals.
A hard cast, Thorson said, is not an option.
One of the positives of the injury is that an athlete can immediately start to rehabilitate his knee and hip, Thorson said.
Henderson is expected to return to the Twin Cities later this week, Childress said.
"He's a Spartan," Childress said. "I wish him the best in his rehab and his care."
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Glad to see that Henderson has a good prognosis.
gianmarco
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sho nuff
Footballguy
ATC1
Footballguy
This is very good information and a great prognosis if EJ can be mentally tough. Because he is not put in a hard cast the muscles won't atrophy as much. That is the hardest part in recovery from serious injuries. That and the tenitiveness when EJ gets back on the field after this. Bones heal stronger than they origiannly were, which is why a fracture is much better than needing to reconstruct new ligaments in the knee. I wonder if they will be running tests on Henderson. He had a foot injury last season and that hit he took last night did not seem hard enough to fracture the hardest bone in the body. I just wonder if he has an underlying condition making his bones fragile. That would surely be the main concern for his ability to return if at all.
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
He is my favorite Viking so I hope he recovers. He has done so much work for inner city youth in Minneapolis that you hate seeing something so bad happen to such a great guy!
sho nuff
Footballguy
Good to hear...I don't like seeing it happen to any player, on any team...but as you said...worse when it happens to one of the guys that seems to do it right.Hope he recovers for next year.Who do they have behind him for this year?He is my favorite Viking so I hope he recovers. He has done so much work for inner city youth in Minneapolis that you hate seeing something so bad happen to such a great guy!
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
Rookie Jasper Brinkley from South Carolina. He will play in the base, but Leber will stay in on nickel situations. It usually is Henderson and Greenway, now it will be Leber and Greenway. I actually think Leber does a better job in pass coverage than Henderson anyway, so it actually makes the nickel defense better, but not overall.Good to hear...I don't like seeing it happen to any player, on any team...but as you said...worse when it happens to one of the guys that seems to do it right.Hope he recovers for next year.Who do they have behind him for this year?He is my favorite Viking so I hope he recovers. He has done so much work for inner city youth in Minneapolis that you hate seeing something so bad happen to such a great guy!
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