The elbow clearling being down doesn't count as "irrefutable evidence?"]I don't think he was in but there wasn't "irrefutable evidence" on the replay
What was the bad call?Wow, bad call.
He wasn't in, his elbow was down before the ball crossed the plane.What was the bad call?Wow, bad call.
Yeah but they couldn't actually see the ball. We know it wasn't in the endzone but....The elbow clearling being down doesn't count as "irrefutable evidence?",Nov 13 2005, 07:24 PM]I don't think he was in but there wasn't "irrefutable evidence" on the replay
The review of the 2 point play showed the elbow was down but they let it stand.What was the bad call?Wow, bad call.
If they had said that Alstott didn't make it in originally, then they wouldn't have been able to overturn that either. It had to be tough to see without the replay.What was the bad call?Wow, bad call.
Like reggi brown's (PHI) catch last week where he was on his back, waraped the ball around his leg and caught itandy reid scareming at him ... "are you sure? you want me to challange it? this is my last one"If they had said that Alstott didn't make it in originally, then they wouldn't have been able to overturn that either. It had to be tough to see without the replay.What was the bad call?Wow, bad call.
That was a catch and this wasn't a conversion. Instant replay perplexes me. The call on the field almost always stands even if the replay shows it shouldn't. If they are going to take the time to do it then get the call right regardless of what was called on the fieldLike reggi brown's (PHI) catch last week where he was on his back, waraped the ball around his leg and caught itandy reid scareming at him ... "are you sure? you want me to challange it? this is my last one"If they had said that Alstott didn't make it in originally, then they wouldn't have been able to overturn that either. It had to be tough to see without the replay.What was the bad call?Wow, bad call.
What ever the call on the field is ... is what is upheld!
You don't want it to come down to that. It was pretty obvious in the replay they showed on TV. Apparently the ref was looking at different replays.
TB should send those refs a Thank You letter. That was atrocious.
The entire scenario could've been avoided if the Washington defense had stepped up and prevented a TD when it really mattered. I blame the Washington D in this one.Not only giving up the TD, but going offsides on the XP kick which made the 2 pt conversion a reasonable alternative.You don't want it to come down to that. It was pretty obvious in the replay they showed on TV. Apparently the ref was looking at different replays.
TB should send those refs a Thank You letter. That was atrocious.Apparently, helmet = football. The elbow of the arm that was holding the ball clearly came down well short of the goalline. He was holding the ball into his body and not extended out so if his elbow didn't make it in, the ball doesn't either.
Screw it up once, shame on me...screw it up twice, shame on you.
They did step up and stop the 2 point conversion.The entire scenario could've been avoided if the Washington defense had stepped up and prevented a TD when it really mattered. I blame the Washington D in this one.You don't want it to come down to that. It was pretty obvious in the replay they showed on TV. Apparently the ref was looking at different replays.
TB should send those refs a Thank You letter. That was atrocious.Apparently, helmet = football. The elbow of the arm that was holding the ball clearly came down well short of the goalline. He was holding the ball into his body and not extended out so if his elbow didn't make it in, the ball doesn't either.
Screw it up once, shame on me...screw it up twice, shame on you.

The irony being, Springs was blitzing on that play and was a non factor.Oh, I've already yelled my choice words at the D. Inexcusable to get a delay of game penalty and an offsides on the extra point try. That, and Walt Harris is the worst CB in football bar none. He should never be allowed to man up anyone other than Javon Walker right now - and I think he'd even struggle with that assignment.
That's how I was feeling after that KC/Raider game last week. Great game, but it way sucked to lose, especially in the last few seconds.Best game I've seen all year, and just a painful loss for us Skins fans.
If they hadn't turned it over 3 times in the first half............
If they hadn't blocked that extra point...............
If they hadn't tried 4 long pass plays on that last sequence............
If there had been a clearer camera angle on Alstott's 2-pt. conversion...........
If, if, if...............................
Hats off to Tampa Bay. That was a hell of a game.
Not when you can't see the ball. The judges in the booth apparently agree with meThe elbow clearling being down doesn't count as "irrefutable evidence?",Nov 13 2005, 07:24 PM]I don't think he was in but there wasn't "irrefutable evidence" on the replay
If Portis had gotten the same benefit on the play where he was "stopped" for 4th down as Alstott got on the 2pt conversion . . . Total yards ended up pretty much identical, so I can't complain too much. No team "deserved" to win more than the other, and the officiating generally evens out. I did think the crew was inconsistent on those 2 short yardage plays, but it's not as if Fox even showed a replay of Portis' run. I thought he might have made it after contact.Best game I've seen all year, and just a painful loss for us Skins fans.
If they hadn't turned it over 3 times in the first half............
If they hadn't blocked that extra point...............
If they hadn't tried 4 long pass plays on that last sequence............
If there had been a clearer camera angle on Alstott's 2-pt. conversion...........
If, if, if...............................
Hats off to Tampa Bay. That was a hell of a game.
That was the same officials that let Bett's TD KO return stand when the replays clearly showed he was out of bounds not once, but TWICE!Both teams got screwed by the officials in the game. In the end though, you're looking at probably the game of the year. Hats off to both teams.You don't want it to come down to that. It was pretty obvious in the replay they showed on TV. Apparently the ref was looking at different replays.
TB should send those refs a Thank You letter. That was atrocious.
Wild guess - Skins fan?...how the hell do you expect the redskins to win even when they totally outplay the other team when they have 6 guys in stripes on the other team? seriously, i thought the purpose of the replay system, which is stupid and flawed to begin with, was to get the call right. and there were 3 plays in that game that were simply not right.
not only does the guy blow the inbounds call on galloway's catch in the 1st half, and not only does he apply the forced out rule, he ####### makes it so that they can't even review the play because "a judgement call cannot be reviewed." what the #### is that? guys can make judgement calls at full speed without replay, but once they blow a ####### judgement call, you can't go back and fix it?! that makes PERFECT sense.
and that catch on the last drive was OBVIOUSLY not a catch, and as for the alstott run, he was obviously not in and we ALL know it. but also, who the #### gets called for DEFENSIVE delay of game on an EXTRA POINT? the redskins, that's who. the only team to get called for LEVERAGING in the history of football two weeks ago gets called for ####### delay of game on an extra point defensively? jesus.
i'm not saying there's a conspiracy, but this happens almost every ####### week and i'm getting sick of it. how can you expect the best team to win if this #### keeps happening?
Absolutely. Compared to Tampa Bay's recent games, Simms had all day to throw. I was very surprised by that.He did have a few passes batted down at the line of scrimmage, but maybe that's because the linemen weren't getting upfield and just put their hands up instead? I'm not sure, but it seemed like the Skins weren't getting any pressure unless they brought 6 or more. That's one reason the Bucs were able to get a lot of downfield passes. (I'm guessing if Taylor had been playing it would have helped, also.)Simms seemed to operate under little pressure. If I had to identify the main problem with the Redskins defense this year, it would be not pressuring the QB. That's why they have recovered so few turnovers.
sure am. and that explains my emotion about it.but can you argue with the assessment?Wild guess - Skins fan?...how the hell do you expect the redskins to win even when they totally outplay the other team when they have 6 guys in stripes on the other team? seriously, i thought the purpose of the replay system, which is stupid and flawed to begin with, was to get the call right. and there were 3 plays in that game that were simply not right.
not only does the guy blow the inbounds call on galloway's catch in the 1st half, and not only does he apply the forced out rule, he ####### makes it so that they can't even review the play because "a judgement call cannot be reviewed." what the #### is that? guys can make judgement calls at full speed without replay, but once they blow a ####### judgement call, you can't go back and fix it?! that makes PERFECT sense.
and that catch on the last drive was OBVIOUSLY not a catch, and as for the alstott run, he was obviously not in and we ALL know it. but also, who the #### gets called for DEFENSIVE delay of game on an EXTRA POINT? the redskins, that's who. the only team to get called for LEVERAGING in the history of football two weeks ago gets called for ####### delay of game on an extra point defensively? jesus.
i'm not saying there's a conspiracy, but this happens almost every ####### week and i'm getting sick of it. how can you expect the best team to win if this #### keeps happening?
Which catch, Galloway's? I can't see how you can say that obviously wasn't a catch.and that catch on the last drive was OBVIOUSLY not a catch
because, when they showed the replay, we could all see the ball hit the ground, and then see that the ball was loose after he bounced.that's how.Which catch, Galloway's? I can't see how you can say that obviously wasn't a catch.and that catch on the last drive was OBVIOUSLY not a catch