Game Thread W5 - Atlanta V Green Bay (1 Viewer)

[PatrickT]

Those that want to continuously compare him to Favre need to look and see how Favre did in HIS 5th NFL start.

The Packers beat Detroit 27-13 in Favre's 5th start. Favre was 22 for 27 with 2TDs and no interceptions.

Touche.I was attempting to state that Favre didn't exactly light the world on fire in his first year, and picked, quite possibly, the worst example ever.

Not really.....his 10th start against the Lions that season he threw for 3 Tds and no INTs as the Packers won 38-10. Congrats on the Falcons win today!!!

Thanks!

 

[teamroc]

Reading thru this thread. Anyone blaming this on Rodgers is mistaken, IMO. He played really, really well. Absolutely picked apart our secondary in the middle of the field, and threw the deep ball well. He was obviously hurt, but still made the deep throws and played thru the pain. Those that want to continuously compare him to Favre need to look and see how Favre did in HIS 5th NFL start.

You're being nice.Lets face it, the Falcon secondary is WEAK. The Packers are LOADED with weapons. The Falcons should have lost this game. There is a big talent gap. This Packer team was in the nfc championship game. They are at home. They are a veryyy good team.I'm sorry but that last INT killed them. You just can't make that mistake. Yes with time, with a team loaded with weapons, Rodgers can hit the open targets. Crunch time? Game on the line? That's still up for debate. Rodgers has talent. He's shown he can make all the throws. Injuries, crunch time, gut checks, that's still to be determined. Whcih is the case with any first year starter. But to glow about Rodgers after he throws an INT that gives the Falcons the game winning TD, that's a little much.

 

[AAABatteries]

I was happy with the pick of Ryan as I got to see a lot of his games @ BC and thought he had NFL skills, but I'd be lying if I thought he'd play this well this early. The INT in the end zone was a really bad mistake - he had the guy wide open early, he was still wide open and just made a bad underthrow. Anway, he's very composed and I think Smith and the coaching staff are doing a great job of play calling and putting him in positions to succeed. His arm strength is even better than I remember and right now at least he's making good decisions. Don't want to get carried away though, it's just his 5th start. But, being a lifelong ATL fan I haven't had a lot to be excited about, so I'll take what I can get.

Can't not mention VanGorder and the job he's doing with the Def - I thought we'd be horrible and at times we have been, but we are making plays and making teams earn their yards and points.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Rodgers has talent. He's shown he can make all the throws. Injuries, crunch time, gut checks, that's still to be determined. Whcih is the case with any first year starter. But to glow about Rodgers after he throws an INT that gives the Falcons the game winning TD, that's a little much.

There were a lot of people who were glad to see Favre gone because of his INT against the Giants last year costing them the game. Interesting that his replacement also has brought this same issue, combined with a much weaker constitution.

 

[LAUNCH]

The game was lost on the two lines. They couldn't stop Turner or get any pressure on Matt Ryan and while Rodgers played better than anyone could have expected considering the injury he was going against a pretty soft defense. The interception at the end was a horrible decision and it put the Falcons in position to get Turner his TD and pretty much put the game away. Had this been Favre playing in this game you would have seen 50 guys in here with Favre choked another one away, but much like the Giants game last year, the ending plays were magnified because of when they happened, but were really won and lost at the line of scrimmage.

 

[Phase of the Game]

The game was lost on the two lines. They couldn't stop Turner or get any pressure on Matt Ryan and while Rodgers played better than anyone could have expected considering the injury he was going against a pretty soft defense. The interception at the end was a horrible decision and it put the Falcons in position to get Turner his TD and pretty much put the game away. Had this been Favre playing in this game you would have seen 50 guys in here with Favre choked another one away, but much like the Giants game last year, the ending plays were magnified because of when they happened, but were really won and lost at the line of scrimmage.

I was very dissappointed in the defensive playcalling to try and go after a rookie QB like Ryan.

 

[teamroc]

Rodgers has talent. He's shown he can make all the throws. Injuries, crunch time, gut checks, that's still to be determined. Whcih is the case with any first year starter. But to glow about Rodgers after he throws an INT that gives the Falcons the game winning TD, that's a little much.

There were a lot of people who were glad to see Favre gone because of his INT against the Giants last year costing them the game. Interesting that his replacement also has brought this same issue, combined with a much weaker constitution.

Yeah for a 1st year starter, Rodgers has been pretty good. I just can't agree with "he played great today". You can't throw an INT there and give the game away. I know it happens, but that's a huge mistake at home against a bad team.Rodgers is really caught in a tough spot. For a first time starter, he's been great. Not many guys throw it around like he does in their 1st year. I believe he's been as good as you can expect from an unknown. I have to blame TT mostly for this. Rodgers has so much pressure on him, put in such an awful spot, lets hope it doesn't hurt his development/future. If they go out west and lose to Seattle (much better team at home), then lose to the Colts and slide to 2-5. Rodgers will get the blame, which isn't fair. Things could get ugly very quick, and you really have to put this all on TT. Rodgers if he can stay healthy will be a fine QB. But TT has done him no favors.

 

[Shlon]

Rodgers has talent. He's shown he can make all the throws. Injuries, crunch time, gut checks, that's still to be determined. Whcih is the case with any first year starter. But to glow about Rodgers after he throws an INT that gives the Falcons the game winning TD, that's a little much.

There were a lot of people who were glad to see Favre gone because of his INT against the Giants last year costing them the game. Interesting that his replacement also has brought this same issue, combined with a much weaker constitution.

Yeah for a 1st year starter, Rodgers has been pretty good. I just can't agree with "he played great today". You can't throw an INT there and give the game away. I know it happens, but that's a huge mistake at home against a bad team.Rodgers is really caught in a tough spot. For a first time starter, he's been great. Not many guys throw it around like he does in their 1st year. I believe he's been as good as you can expect from an unknown. I have to blame TT mostly for this. Rodgers has so much pressure on him, put in such an awful spot, lets hope it doesn't hurt his development/future. If they go out west and lose to Seattle (much better team at home), then lose to the Colts and slide to 2-5. Rodgers will get the blame, which isn't fair. Things could get ugly very quick, and you really have to put this all on TT. Rodgers if he can stay healthy will be a fine QB. But TT has done him no favors.

That INT shouldn't even have been that important because Ryan gave away a free TD on that throw to the wide open Tight End.

 

[sho nuff]

Reading thru this thread. Anyone blaming this on Rodgers is mistaken, IMO. He played really, really well. Absolutely picked apart our secondary in the middle of the field, and threw the deep ball well. He was obviously hurt, but still made the deep throws and played thru the pain. Those that want to continuously compare him to Favre need to look and see how Favre did in HIS 5th NFL start.

You're being nice.Lets face it, the Falcon secondary is WEAK. The Packers are LOADED with weapons. The Falcons should have lost this game. There is a big talent gap. This Packer team was in the nfc championship game. They are at home. They are a veryyy good team.I'm sorry but that last INT killed them. You just can't make that mistake. Yes with time, with a team loaded with weapons, Rodgers can hit the open targets. Crunch time? Game on the line? That's still up for debate. Rodgers has talent. He's shown he can make all the throws. Injuries, crunch time, gut checks, that's still to be determined. Whcih is the case with any first year starter. But to glow about Rodgers after he throws an INT that gives the Falcons the game winning TD, that's a little much.

Agreed...but lets not just put it on Rodgers.There were plenty of other issues in this one.Defense, penalties, missed FGs, the INT...all of it, not one thing led to the loss.

 

[sho nuff]

Rodgers has talent. He's shown he can make all the throws. Injuries, crunch time, gut checks, that's still to be determined. Whcih is the case with any first year starter. But to glow about Rodgers after he throws an INT that gives the Falcons the game winning TD, that's a little much.

There were a lot of people who were glad to see Favre gone because of his INT against the Giants last year costing them the game. Interesting that his replacement also has brought this same issue, combined with a much weaker constitution.

I don't think many said Favre could go based just on that one INT. In fact, not one person I know has that opinion.Weaker constitution?

 

[PatrickT]

Rodgers has talent. He's shown he can make all the throws. Injuries, crunch time, gut checks, that's still to be determined. Whcih is the case with any first year starter. But to glow about Rodgers after he throws an INT that gives the Falcons the game winning TD, that's a little much.

There were a lot of people who were glad to see Favre gone because of his INT against the Giants last year costing them the game. Interesting that his replacement also has brought this same issue, combined with a much weaker constitution.

Yeah for a 1st year starter, Rodgers has been pretty good. I just can't agree with "he played great today". You can't throw an INT there and give the game away. I know it happens, but that's a huge mistake at home against a bad team.Rodgers is really caught in a tough spot. For a first time starter, he's been great. Not many guys throw it around like he does in their 1st year. I believe he's been as good as you can expect from an unknown. I have to blame TT mostly for this. Rodgers has so much pressure on him, put in such an awful spot, lets hope it doesn't hurt his development/future. If they go out west and lose to Seattle (much better team at home), then lose to the Colts and slide to 2-5. Rodgers will get the blame, which isn't fair. Things could get ugly very quick, and you really have to put this all on TT. Rodgers if he can stay healthy will be a fine QB. But TT has done him no favors.

A. My only point here is that people shouldn't compare Rodger's to Favre. Even still, there's nothing to say that Favre wouldn't have thrown a pick, he didn't save EVERY game on EVERY opportunity. He's blown a few, too. I still applaud TT for not being held hostage to Favre's prima donna act.B. I shouldn't be this sensitive to it but, seriously, after this game, you're going to still call Atlanta a "bad team"? Not calling us great by any stretch, but damn, what do they have to do now?

 

[Ookie Pringle]

Rodgers has talent. He's shown he can make all the throws. Injuries, crunch time, gut checks, that's still to be determined. Whcih is the case with any first year starter. But to glow about Rodgers after he throws an INT that gives the Falcons the game winning TD, that's a little much.

There were a lot of people who were glad to see Favre gone because of his INT against the Giants last year costing them the game. Interesting that his replacement also has brought this same issue, combined with a much weaker constitution.

Yeah for a 1st year starter, Rodgers has been pretty good. I just can't agree with "he played great today". You can't throw an INT there and give the game away. I know it happens, but that's a huge mistake at home against a bad team.Rodgers is really caught in a tough spot. For a first time starter, he's been great. Not many guys throw it around like he does in their 1st year. I believe he's been as good as you can expect from an unknown. I have to blame TT mostly for this. Rodgers has so much pressure on him, put in such an awful spot, lets hope it doesn't hurt his development/future. If they go out west and lose to Seattle (much better team at home), then lose to the Colts and slide to 2-5. Rodgers will get the blame, which isn't fair. Things could get ugly very quick, and you really have to put this all on TT. Rodgers if he can stay healthy will be a fine QB. But TT has done him no favors.

B. I shouldn't be this sensitive to it but, seriously, after this game, you're going to still call Atlanta a "bad team"? Not calling us great by any stretch, but damn, what do they have to do now?

I guess that makes the Packers a REALLY BAD team.

 

[snorlax]

I'm not blaming this loss on the penalties because there were plenty of things the Packers could have done a little better to win this game. However, the Packers were penalized 9 times for 97 yards in this game, and here is a sampling of those calls:

Jermichael Finley was called for holding on a field goal and wiped three points off the board. Of course they didn't show a replay of the penalty on TV (probably the biggest flaw in TV coverage today), but all indications from the Packers are that it was a phantom hold called between two guys that were falling down.

Charlie Peprah was called for one of the worst defensive pass interference penalties I've ever seen on a third and ten from the Falcons' ten yard line. He didn't come close to touching him before the ball got there, and the announcers were mystified on replays as well. The Falcons went on to score a touchdown on that drive.

Nick Collins was called for a late hit out of bounds where he barely brushed a guy that was already going down. Considering his momentum at the end of the play, it would have been hard for him to make any less contact.

Those are all that I can comment on, but in a 3-point game, that's more than enough to make a difference.

 

[PatrickT]

I'm not blaming this loss on the penalties because there were plenty of things the Packers could have done a little better to win this game. However, the Packers were penalized 9 times for 97 yards in this game, and here is a sampling of those calls:Jermichael Finley was called for holding on a field goal and wiped three points off the board. Of course they didn't show a replay of the penalty on TV (probably the biggest flaw in TV coverage today), but all indications from the Packers are that it was a phantom hold called between two guys that were falling down.Charlie Peprah was called for one of the worst defensive pass interference penalties I've ever seen on a third and ten from the Falcons' ten yard line. He didn't come close to touching him before the ball got there, and the announcers were mystified on replays as well. The Falcons went on to score a touchdown on that drive.Nick Collins was called for a late hit out of bounds where he barely brushed a guy that was already going down. Considering his momentum at the end of the play, it would have been hard for him to make any less contact.Those are all that I can comment on, but in a 3-point game, that's more than enough to make a difference.

I agree on the late hit call, it was a bad call. The PI, however, was dead on, and the announcers were clear on it while I was watching. He clearly knocked his hands down before the ball got there, IMO. I didn't see the FG holding call, so can't comment on that one.

 

[sho nuff]

I'm not blaming this loss on the penalties because there were plenty of things the Packers could have done a little better to win this game. However, the Packers were penalized 9 times for 97 yards in this game, and here is a sampling of those calls:Jermichael Finley was called for holding on a field goal and wiped three points off the board. Of course they didn't show a replay of the penalty on TV (probably the biggest flaw in TV coverage today), but all indications from the Packers are that it was a phantom hold called between two guys that were falling down.Charlie Peprah was called for one of the worst defensive pass interference penalties I've ever seen on a third and ten from the Falcons' ten yard line. He didn't come close to touching him before the ball got there, and the announcers were mystified on replays as well. The Falcons went on to score a touchdown on that drive.Nick Collins was called for a late hit out of bounds where he barely brushed a guy that was already going down. Considering his momentum at the end of the play, it would have been hard for him to make any less contact.Those are all that I can comment on, but in a 3-point game, that's more than enough to make a difference.

I agree on the late hit call, it was a bad call. The PI, however, was dead on, and the announcers were clear on it while I was watching. He clearly knocked his hands down before the ball got there, IMO. I didn't see the FG holding call, so can't comment on that one.

From what I saw and listened to...was listening to the GB radio feed.They seemed to agree that the late hit was legit...that they had the guy out and Collins came in to finish him off. One of those where you just don't need to touch a guy in that situation.But we can't keep blaming the refs. Look, the Packers are one of the most penalized teams this year...at some point, McCarthy needs to smack some people around IMO. It is getting completely unacceptable to keep making these mistakes.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Penalties again. Lack of pass rush again. Not being able to stop the run again.

Those blaming Rodgers here are not seeing the real issues. The D line is hurting big time right now. If you can't get pressure, even rookie qbs will eat you alive. The Atlanta O line took Green Bay's lunch money out there. And it's clear that not having Cullen Jenkins is a huge, huge blow.

Unfortunately, I don't see this getting better. They lost their best pass rushing interior d lineman for the season. That can't be replaced.

 

[sho nuff]

Penalties again. Lack of pass rush again. Not being able to stop the run again.Those blaming Rodgers here are not seeing the real issues. The D line is hurting big time right now. If you can't get pressure, even rookie qbs will eat you alive. The Atlanta O line took Green Bay's lunch money out there. And it's clear that not having Cullen Jenkins is a huge, huge blow.Unfortunately, I don't see this getting better. They lost their best pass rushing interior d lineman for the season. That can't be replaced.

He was not as much the interior lineman though.That was basically only on the 3rd down situations where they brought KGB in.IMO, his loss hurts more in the early downs as far as stopping the run.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Penalties again. Lack of pass rush again. Not being able to stop the run again.Those blaming Rodgers here are not seeing the real issues. The D line is hurting big time right now. If you can't get pressure, even rookie qbs will eat you alive. The Atlanta O line took Green Bay's lunch money out there. And it's clear that not having Cullen Jenkins is a huge, huge blow.Unfortunately, I don't see this getting better. They lost their best pass rushing interior d lineman for the season. That can't be replaced.

He was not as much the interior lineman though.That was basically only on the 3rd down situations where they brought KGB in.IMO, his loss hurts more in the early downs as far as stopping the run.

That too. They're playing some under-sized guys inside right now out of necessity. Hopefully Harrel can get back and actually contribute.

 

[Garts]

Turner was moving the pile well yesterday. The guy is a beast...plain and simple.

 

[sho nuff]

Penalties again. Lack of pass rush again. Not being able to stop the run again.Those blaming Rodgers here are not seeing the real issues. The D line is hurting big time right now. If you can't get pressure, even rookie qbs will eat you alive. The Atlanta O line took Green Bay's lunch money out there. And it's clear that not having Cullen Jenkins is a huge, huge blow.Unfortunately, I don't see this getting better. They lost their best pass rushing interior d lineman for the season. That can't be replaced.

He was not as much the interior lineman though.That was basically only on the 3rd down situations where they brought KGB in.IMO, his loss hurts more in the early downs as far as stopping the run.

That too. They're playing some under-sized guys inside right now out of necessity. Hopefully Harrel can get back and actually contribute.

I have been encouraged about what I have read on Harrell. That he has been working hard was down on himself even for how he handled things during the offseason.Hopefully that will amount to something on the field.Pickett has also not played as well as he did last year.