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No. They should throw all day just to piss you off.Perhaps you should. Feel free to answer my question, though.Post your complaints here pleaseSo now that PIT has a commanding lead, is it time to run the ball?
No. They should throw all day just to piss you off.Perhaps you should. Feel free to answer my question, though.Post your complaints here pleaseSo now that PIT has a commanding lead, is it time to run the ball?
Great return by Cribbs. But would the commentator give the ghost holding call a rest. geesh!Cribbs KO return TD.
Taking this a little personal, aren't you?No. They should throw all day just to piss you off.Perhaps you should. Feel free to answer my question, though.Post your complaints here pleaseSo now that PIT has a commanding lead, is it time to run the ball?
Great return by Cribbs. But would the commentator give the ghost holding call a rest. geesh!Cribbs KO return TD.
3-1-CLE 14 (1:19) R.Mendenhall right guard to CLE 14 for no gain (E.Barton; B.McDonald).Why?Ugh, downgrade Mendenhall and upgrade Parker.
no way that was a 1st down there. it was short by at least 2 inches.They should have kicked the FG there... they didn't measure yet.
seriously any explanation on it?How did Pitt get stopped on 4th and 1 and retain the ball?
NFL conspiracy :(Can someone tell me what the HELL is going on here?!?!?!?!That was NOT a first down? The chains showed it was clearly short?!?!
only think I can think of is the angle the camera had wasn't parallel with the chain marker. Very weird.no way that was a 1st down there. it was short by at least 2 inches.They should have kicked the FG there... they didn't measure yet.
No, it wasn't controlled all the way to the grond.TD under review...to people watching...was it a TD in your opinion?
WOW... I was watching on the NFL redzone channel, and it looked like an obvious TD to me. Not even close. I haven't seen multiple replays from different angles or anything, but how the hell did they overturn that??TD under review...to people watching...was it a TD in your opinion?
Bummer...I'm currently tied at 29 right now...could have used the 7 points.No, it wasn't controlled all the way to the grond.TD under review...to people watching...was it a TD in your opinion?
Yes, it was. It wasn't controlled through the second rollover after he was out of bounds. That rule really needs to be changed.No, it wasn't controlled all the way to the grond.TD under review...to people watching...was it a TD in your opinion?
Any other year but this one it would be a TD.However, Pitt failed on 4th and 1 clearly and the Refs didn't give Cleveland the ball. Really, really terrible banana league call on there.TD under review...to people watching...was it a TD in your opinion?
Rule states that you basically have to hand the ball to the refYes, it was. It wasn't controlled through the second rollover after he was out of bounds. That rule really needs to be changed.No, it wasn't controlled all the way to the grond.TD under review...to people watching...was it a TD in your opinion?
Yes, it was. It wasn't controlled through the second rollover after he was out of bounds. That rule really needs to be changed.No, it wasn't controlled all the way to the grond.TD under review...to people watching...was it a TD in your opinion?
I agree with you 100%... my wording was inaccurate. By it wasn't a TD based on the stupid rule.Yes, it was. It wasn't controlled through the second rollover after he was out of bounds. That rule really needs to be changed.No, it wasn't controlled all the way to the grond.TD under review...to people watching...was it a TD in your opinion?
Can someone tell me what the HELL is going on here?!?!?!?!That was NOT a first down? The chains showed it was clearly short?!?!
The angle they showed on TV was not a very good angle. I bet it just barely got to the 1st down pole if you look at it with the right angle.They were absolutely short on the 4th down if the sticks were accurate, so it'd be awesome to hear WTH the refs were doing there.That said....that Ward TD catch was absolutely spectacular if it sticks(which I assume it won't, as a make up for that measurement.)
Apparently you have to control it until you go back to the bench and grab a cup of water.That's a stupid rule. You have to maintain it as you roll out of bounds after you've caught the ball, fell to the ground, rolled over once and the roll over again?
Yes, it was. It wasn't controlled through the second rollover after he was out of bounds. That rule really needs to be changed.No, it wasn't controlled all the way to the grond.TD under review...to people watching...was it a TD in your opinion?Does he have to hold on to the ball until tomorrow for it to count as a TD? These calls are crazy.
Nice contribution to the thread.Man, I hate the Browns.
Any other year but this one it would be a TD.However, Pitt failed on 4th and 1 clearly and the Refs didn't give Cleveland the ball. Really, really terrible banana league call on there.TD under review...to people watching...was it a TD in your opinion?
Nope, the angle was DIRECTLY to the side of the ball. I've TIVO rewound it several times. It was just a terrible unacceptable call at the Pro levels. It wasn't a side or weird angle. it was RIGHT next to the ball. Ward completely controlled the ball to the ground, and lost on the second roll. As I said any other year that would've been a TD. He completely had control of it before his arm hit the ground rolling and knocked it loose.The angle they showed on TV was not a very good angle. I bet it just barely got to the 1st down pole if you look at it with the right angle.
It absolutely was NOT.Nope, the angle was DIRECTLY to the side of the ball. I've TIVO rewound it several times. It was just a terrible unacceptable call at the Pro levels. It wasn't a side or weird angle. it was RIGHT next to the ball. Ward completely controlled the ball to the ground, and lost on the second roll. As I said any other year that would've been a TD. He completely had control of it before his arm hit the ground rolling and knocked it loose.The angle they showed on TV was not a very good angle. I bet it just barely got to the 1st down pole if you look at it with the right angle.
I haven't seen the play at all to give any opinion on it.But as far as the rule goes, Mike Pereira has recently clarified that you only need to possess the ball through the first contact with the ground... that after that, if there is a "second act" (his words) where a defender knocks it free or you subsequently roll over and it comes free as you hit the ground again, it should be a catch.Yes, it was. It wasn't controlled through the second rollover after he was out of bounds. That rule really needs to be changed.No, it wasn't controlled all the way to the grond.TD under review...to people watching...was it a TD in your opinion?Does he have to hold on to the ball until tomorrow for it to count as a TD? These calls are crazy.
The "call" is the correct call according to the rules. You might feel the rule is crazy, but the call is not.
I'm pretty sure the camera wasn't on the 16 yard line (or wherever the Steelers were)... I'm not sure how you can feel so sure the call was wrong.Nope, the angle was DIRECTLY to the side of the ball. I've TIVO rewound it several times. It was just a terrible unacceptable call at the Pro levels. It wasn't a side or weird angle. it was RIGHT next to the ball.
The problem isn't the QB, it's the WRs. The only one really catching any Cleveland throws is Polamalu.I'd leave Cribbs in there 2/3 of the time and run the Wildcat.They zoomed DIRECTLY from the side of the ball to a clear up close view and it appeared short.I'll give it might not have been, but even the announcers were perplexed. It appears that was a botch.2 for 9 for 14 yards at halftime? I am not able to watch the game - is it as bad as it seems? Who is going to be the CLE QB in the 2nd half?
If that's the way the rule is worded then Ward probably did catch it. Ward lost control when he rolled over the 2nd time.But as far as the rule goes, Mike Pereira has recently clarified that you only need to possess the ball through the first contact with the ground... that after that, if there is a "second act" (his words) where a defender knocks it free or you subsequently roll over and it comes free as you hit the ground again, it should be a catch.
From the looks of the shot, I'd say the cameraman was right around the 16 yard line. When both announcers are perplexed and say a call was wrong, and pretty much everyone at my house says the call is wrong, except the one Pitt fan, I'd say it probably was wrong.I'm pretty sure the camera wasn't on the 16 yard line (or wherever the Steelers were)... I'm not sure how you can feel so sure the call was wrong.Nope, the angle was DIRECTLY to the side of the ball. I've TIVO rewound it several times. It was just a terrible unacceptable call at the Pro levels. It wasn't a side or weird angle. it was RIGHT next to the ball.
Yeah, acutally a pass and a catch and everything.