games played? (1 Viewer)

[sos32]

Just wondering how games played are determined. I've checked a few sites and NFL.com has games and game starts. That is what we are using now. why I ask is our player salaries are based on performance, if performance is low then minimum is based on games played, as long as the guy is dressed and on the sidelines in pads it would count.

So how is this determined and is there a better site out there to find this info?

 

[TheLastDispatch]

if a player is dressed it counts as a game played. if he's out there for the first play it counts as a game started.

 

[Doug Drinen]

if a player is dressed it counts as a game played.

I'm pretty sure that's not true. Jim Sorgi, for example, was healthy, dressed, and ready to play in every game last year (wasn't he?), but only was credited with one game played.With the exception of QBs, almost everyone who dresses will usually play at least one play (and hence be credited with a game in the official stats), but backup QBs can present some problems. Most notably, Tony Romo's per-game stats for 2006 are very misleading because he was the holder for the Cowboys. So he played every game, but only really played in 10 of them.

 

[GregR_2]

if a player is dressed it counts as a game played.

I'm pretty sure that's not true. Jim Sorgi, for example, was healthy, dressed, and ready to play in every game last year (wasn't he?), but only was credited with one game played.With the exception of QBs, almost everyone who dresses will usually play at least one play (and hence be credited with a game in the official stats), but backup QBs can present some problems. Most notably, Tony Romo's per-game stats for 2006 are very misleading because he was the holder for the Cowboys. So he played every game, but only really played in 10 of them.

What Doug said. The NFL.com gamebooks for each game contain a list of every player who actually was on the field for a play, and those are the guys who get credit for a game played.

 

[ruelvis]

we have a similar rule - to reduce confusion we ended up changing the rule to make our website (MFL) the basis for this. we believe MFL puts a " - " when the player is not suited (or has a bye week) and a "0" when he is suited and scores no points. if u need to do this for a lot of players you can copy/paste the stats into Excel, create a new column and then use Dcount (i forget the actual command but i think thats it) so that column lists the # of weeks a player played (where a number is in the column). then you can sort and calculate salaries from there.

if you arent on mfl i suggest u check out your site and see how the stats for the players are listed or get the league to agree to use footballguys games played?

 

[Bri]

Just wondering how games played are determined. I've checked a few sites and NFL.com has games and game starts. That is what we are using now. why I ask is our player salaries are based on performance, if performance is low then minimum is based on games played, as long as the guy is dressed and on the sidelines in pads it would count. So how is this determined and is there a better site out there to find this info?

StatsInc, which most sites use, will give a game played to anyone that enters the game not based upon if they're dressed. However, punters just automatically get a game played even if they didn't.Not sure what type of link you're looking for as you said NFL.com has it. Do you want starters for each game?

 

[Bri]

also FWIW NFL has a practice squad rule where if a player plays in X amount of games he's ineligible and something halfway similar for determinning restricted(and exclusive rights free agents?)free agents. Not sure if these would or wouldn't help you in developping your own formula for salaries but I'd figure PS players should be dirt cheap in FF.

 

[sos32]

Maybe I wasn't clear, and did not get my point out. We have a contract league, I'll post our rules to lay it out;

13.2) Players' salaries will be determined by a Productivity Value (PV) calculated based on the following:

13.2.1) Position players (QB, WR, RB, and TE): each touchdown scored will have a PV of $100,000 (i.e. A QB runs for 5 touchdowns and passes for 15 touchdowns, the minimum salary for the next season is set at $2,000,000).

13.1.1) If a player plays in 4 or fewer games, their Productivity Value shall be based on the previous season or the association minimum, whichever is greater. If a player appears in 4 or fewer games in 2 consecutive years, their PV reverts to the association minimum.

We currently use NFL.com for this information. If you look at Gus Frerotte for example he would be $100,000 for this season. but by NFL.com it shows him in less than 4 games which would make him revert to 2006 ($1,800,000).

So what I'm getting at is, is there a site out there that will tell us if the player suited up and was on the sidelines. It helps out alot with depth and picking up backups to your starters. If we have info that states the player was suited up then he would be "in the game" and would stay at $100,000.

Looking for any and all help

 

[ruelvis]

what did your commish have in mind when he wrote the rules?

 

[Bri]

Maybe I wasn't clear, and did not get my point out. We have a contract league, I'll post our rules to lay it out;13.2) Players' salaries will be determined by a Productivity Value (PV) calculated based on the following:13.2.1) Position players (QB, WR, RB, and TE): each touchdown scored will have a PV of $100,000 (i.e. A QB runs for 5 touchdowns and passes for 15 touchdowns, the minimum salary for the next season is set at $2,000,000). 13.1.1) If a player plays in 4 or fewer games, their Productivity Value shall be based on the previous season or the association minimum, whichever is greater. If a player appears in 4 or fewer games in 2 consecutive years, their PV reverts to the association minimum. We currently use NFL.com for this information. If you look at Gus Frerotte for example he would be $100,000 for this season. but by NFL.com it shows him in less than 4 games which would make him revert to 2006 ($1,800,000). So what I'm getting at is, is there a site out there that will tell us if the player suited up and was on the sidelines. It helps out alot with depth and picking up backups to your starters. If we have info that states the player was suited up then he would be "in the game" and would stay at $100,000.Looking for any and all help

FWIW that's called a "did not play player"I have this and if you use IE I can have it tonight or tomorrow. Sorry but I can't figure out my coding error for firefox and it's a bit of a because I'm sure it's something simple and obvious.

 

[sos32]

Maybe I wasn't clear, and did not get my point out. We have a contract league, I'll post our rules to lay it out;13.2) Players' salaries will be determined by a Productivity Value (PV) calculated based on the following:13.2.1) Position players (QB, WR, RB, and TE): each touchdown scored will have a PV of $100,000 (i.e. A QB runs for 5 touchdowns and passes for 15 touchdowns, the minimum salary for the next season is set at $2,000,000). 13.1.1) If a player plays in 4 or fewer games, their Productivity Value shall be based on the previous season or the association minimum, whichever is greater. If a player appears in 4 or fewer games in 2 consecutive years, their PV reverts to the association minimum. We currently use NFL.com for this information. If you look at Gus Frerotte for example he would be $100,000 for this season. but by NFL.com it shows him in less than 4 games which would make him revert to 2006 ($1,800,000). So what I'm getting at is, is there a site out there that will tell us if the player suited up and was on the sidelines. It helps out alot with depth and picking up backups to your starters. If we have info that states the player was suited up then he would be "in the game" and would stay at $100,000.Looking for any and all help

FWIW that's called a "did not play player"I have this and if you use IE I can have it tonight or tomorrow. Sorry but I can't figure out my coding error for firefox and it's a bit of a because I'm sure it's something simple and obvious.

I currently use firefox, but will use EI if need be. what do you have?

 

[Bri]

Maybe I wasn't clear, and did not get my point out. We have a contract league, I'll post our rules to lay it out;

13.2) Players' salaries will be determined by a Productivity Value (PV) calculated based on the following:

13.2.1) Position players (QB, WR, RB, and TE): each touchdown scored will have a PV of $100,000 (i.e. A QB runs for 5 touchdowns and passes for 15 touchdowns, the minimum salary for the next season is set at $2,000,000).

13.1.1) If a player plays in 4 or fewer games, their Productivity Value shall be based on the previous season or the association minimum, whichever is greater. If a player appears in 4 or fewer games in 2 consecutive years, their PV reverts to the association minimum.

We currently use NFL.com for this information. If you look at Gus Frerotte for example he would be $100,000 for this season. but by NFL.com it shows him in less than 4 games which would make him revert to 2006 ($1,800,000).

So what I'm getting at is, is there a site out there that will tell us if the player suited up and was on the sidelines. It helps out alot with depth and picking up backups to your starters. If we have info that states the player was suited up then he would be "in the game" and would stay at $100,000.

Looking for any and all help

FWIW that's called a "did not play player"I have this and if you use IE I can have it tonight or tomorrow. Sorry but I can't figure out my coding error for firefox and it's a bit of a because I'm sure it's something simple and obvious.

I currently use firefox, but will use IE if need be. what do you have?

Sos32, here

http://www.footballhangout.com/Stats/sos32.html

works in IE, I worked that up for you quickly. There's errors but it's not really a page for my site or anything so....

Just pick a game and click show stats, you want the nonstarters tab

ETA it may take a sec after you click "show stats" as it's finding and parsing one of 192 files

 

[TheLastDispatch]

if a player is dressed it counts as a game played.

I'm pretty sure that's not true. Jim Sorgi, for example, was healthy, dressed, and ready to play in every game last year (wasn't he?), but only was credited with one game played.With the exception of QBs, almost everyone who dresses will usually play at least one play (and hence be credited with a game in the official stats), but backup QBs can present some problems. Most notably, Tony Romo's per-game stats for 2006 are very misleading because he was the holder for the Cowboys. So he played every game, but only really played in 10 of them.

What Doug said. The NFL.com gamebooks for each game contain a list of every player who actually was on the field for a play, and those are the guys who get credit for a game played.

Whoops. My bad.