Getting weird texts from ex-employer.. (1 Viewer)

[Jayrod]

Did you admit to a forgery or this his imagination at work?

No, I didn't. This is such a twisted convulsion of events that he has repeated so many times I think he honestly believes it. What I "admitted" to was one time changing the wording of a letter I had written FOR HIM to our customers and making a photocopy of his signature and then taping it to the document to make copies and send out. It was exactly what he wanted and he never complained about the results of the letter. He just wanted something to blame on me, so in his crackdown on me he went ballistic when he found out I'd done this, even though he knew about the letter. He has since applied that "forgery" incident to other more official documents which are complete lies. He has even claimed that I forged a bank wiring authorization and forged powers of attorney.ETA: And the reason I taped his signature to that letter was that he was out on a road trip for a while and we wanted that letter to go out ASAP.

Hmm...that's not good.They can prove you've done it before (what he is accusing you of) - you even admitted that you did it. The defense will have a field day with that if it gets to court. Whether he approved it or told you to do it (he said - he said and he is now saying he never authorized that based on what you said here), you technically forged his signature on an official document.

Yeah, I really wish I hadn't done it, in hindsight.But I'm fine with any legal implications because the ultimate goal of any of this is to prove we stole money from him...which would require the finding of money being stolen...which isn't happening because nobody did in the two plus years I was employed there. Plus he has no "official" admittance of forgery.

Yeah good thing you didnt admit to doing it on the internet or anything

 

[Jobber]

Did you admit to a forgery or this his imagination at work?

No, I didn't. This is such a twisted convulsion of events that he has repeated so many times I think he honestly believes it. What I "admitted" to was one time changing the wording of a letter I had written FOR HIM to our customers and making a photocopy of his signature and then taping it to the document to make copies and send out. It was exactly what he wanted and he never complained about the results of the letter. He just wanted something to blame on me, so in his crackdown on me he went ballistic when he found out I'd done this, even though he knew about the letter. He has since applied that "forgery" incident to other more official documents which are complete lies. He has even claimed that I forged a bank wiring authorization and forged powers of attorney.ETA: And the reason I taped his signature to that letter was that he was out on a road trip for a while and we wanted that letter to go out ASAP.

Hmm...that's not good.They can prove you've done it before (what he is accusing you of) - you even admitted that you did it. The defense will have a field day with that if it gets to court. Whether he approved it or told you to do it (he said - he said and he is now saying he never authorized that based on what you said here), you technically forged his signature on an official document.

Yeah, I really wish I hadn't done it, in hindsight.But I'm fine with any legal implications because the ultimate goal of any of this is to prove we stole money from him...which would require the finding of money being stolen...which isn't happening because nobody did in the two plus years I was employed there. Plus he has no "official" admittance of forgery.

Yeah good thing you didnt admit to doing it on the internet or anything

Please explain this to me like I'm six years old.What's the difference between this and other companies blasting out form letters with CEO signatures on them. You can't tell me the CEO sat there and signed each one of those millions of letters?

 

[shadyridr]

Please explain this to me like I'm six years old.What's the difference between this and other companies blasting out form letters with CEO signatures on them. You can't tell me the CEO sat there and signed each one of those millions of letters?

Umm cuz the boss is saying he did it without his permission? (Even though its not true).

 

[Jayrod]

Please explain this to me like I'm six years old.What's the difference between this and other companies blasting out form letters with CEO signatures on them. You can't tell me the CEO sat there and signed each one of those millions of letters?

That's actually a pretty good legal question.No one was ever going to get the original....every copy mailed was a copy of his signature. Unless he argued damages from the actual content of the letter, I don't see how he could argue any damage from this particular copying of his signature.Would this even be considered forgery?

 

[xulf]

I think it would depend on how much of the content of the letter was changed. If you were changing fees, obligations, etc. thats one thing, but if you simply corrected grammar, thats another.

 

[Jayrod]

I think it would depend on how much of the content of the letter was changed. If you were changing fees, obligations, etc. thats one thing, but if you simply corrected grammar, thats another.

It was more than just grammar, or I wouldn't have bothered.The letter was describing an accompanying invoice. The original letter didn't describe things properly and would have confused a lot of clients. I had to change the letter to accurately reflect what we were doing on the invoices.He never complained about the results of the letter. It did exactly what he wanted...what we had discussed on the phone. This letter had gone out and the new policy was in place for over six months before he complained about his signature. He even had conversations about the letter to clients multiple times over the phone and email as many of them complained about the policy change. The actual content of the letter was never a problem.

 

[yellowdog]

poop

 

[Johnny Rock]

Did he ever text you that it was ok to alter the letter?

If it was a policy change couldn't you have just signed it under your own name after you changed it? Moot now but just wondering. If it was me I wouldn't ever refer to it as forgery. It was him giving you permission to clarify the wording of the letter under his same signature.

Either way, it's still a huge stretch for him to say you admitted to the forgery he's talking about regarding POA, theft and such. It's cool that the current boss is onboard and knows about the crazy firsthand.

The crazy ex-boss is really pushing here and I'd be pissed too. He's dragging your name through the mud. Unfortunately legal action, while costly, is likely needed now to stop this psycho and officially clear your name.

 

[Jayrod]

Did he ever text you that it was ok to alter the letter?If it was a policy change couldn't you have just signed it under your own name after you changed it? Moot now but just wondering. If it was me I wouldn't ever refer to it as forgery. It was him giving you permission to clarify the wording of the letter under his same signature. Either way, it's still a huge stretch for him to say you admitted to the forgery he's talking about regarding POA, theft and such. It's cool that the current boss is onboard and knows about the crazy firsthand.The crazy ex-boss is really pushing here and I'd be pissed too. He's dragging your name through the mud. Unfortunately legal action, while costly, is likely needed now to stop this psycho and officially clear your name.

No text, was a phone conversation.And yes, I could have just signed it myself and this would all have been pointless. In retrospect, that's exactly what I should have done.I don't even know if legal action will stop him. He will continually push the line as he is completely unconcerned with civil proceedings...he's involved in about 6 right now....it is only criminal charges that would ever shake him up.

 

[Jayrod]

Just a quick update with a hilarious e-mail. My bid for an order of protection was dismissed. The ex-employer hired an attorney and fought it on the grounds that I couldn't prove the legal definition of stalking. In MO, stalking is defined as harassment which causes alarm...which alarm is defined as fear of physical harm. That's where I lost was the fact that he has never threatened me physically. I could have lied about him threatening me in person, but I won't do that.Since he "won" the hearing, I received three blocked calls with no one there and my employer has received 3 e-mails that just happen to coincide with the prank calls. The last e-mail is flat out hilarious. I've transcribed it below:

From: [Tim]Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 1:59PMTo: [Jayrod's new boss]Subject: FW: credit card receiptJust wanted to keep you abreast of the situation. The state of Missouri and our fine Governor along with the Attorney General's office are aware of the situation now. At anytime should you desire to see evidence for yourself to consider your [Jayrod] questions seriously, you are welcome to stop by and view this for yourself.[Tim]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------From: [Tim]Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 1:49PMTo: [MO DOR rep lady], [Tim's Private Investigator], [Tim's attorney]Subject: RE: credit card receipt[DOR lady], thank you for the help. I certainly do not recall initiating this transaction. I don't know if this is standard procedure for the Drivers License Unit to conduct a transaction like this. Or if it was my driver's license record or someone else. I'm assuming at least the $1.25 is the cost of the shipping and the $1.00 is the card processing fee? Is there any way to determine where the transaction was actually processed with more detail on the transaction itself?We have several of these types of charges using the company American Experess. Generally these are not on my card. This one stood out because it was $2.25 and was processed on my card. The fraudulent charges are generally processed using the cards held by the former employees who are suspects in a criminal investigation here locally. At least one of these former employees worked for Encore Payment Systems, a credit card processing company that provides POS terminals to process checks and credit cards. In the case of the local area contract operated DOR offices, we suspect he was servicing the credit card processing equipment in the [local] locations.We are in the process of determining through subpoena the exact merchant account holders because in many transactions they appear to pose as legitimate merchants only to divert funds to their own accounts. I know it all sounds high-tech like some kind of movie but this is precisely the scenario we have been investigating.[Tim]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------From: [MO DOR Rep lady]Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 1:36PMTo: [Tim]Subject: credit card receiptAccording to the Drivers License Unit, $1.25 was the cost of a driving record being mailed to you. The credit card fee was $1.00 for a total of $2.25.Let me know if you need anything else.Thanks,[DOR lady]

That's right, folks, this is evidence he is pursing of a fraud of a grand total of $2.25. He felt my boss needed to know this, even though I never even had a company AMEX card. Somehow I was supposed to research the exact bank accounts each AMEX transaction went to verify that it was indeed the proper company when I reconciled. Never mind the fact that I couldn't even get him to qualify his own personal card activity.My current boss had a pretty good laugh over this whole exchange. He has also started just ignoring all of "Tim's" e-mails. ETA: Also, LOL at "our fine Governor" is "aware".

 

[Guest]

Just a quick update with a hilarious e-mail. My bid for an order of protection was dismissed. The ex-employer hired an attorney and fought it on the grounds that I couldn't prove the legal definition of stalking. In MO, stalking is defined as harassment which causes alarm...which alarm is defined as fear of physical harm. That's where I lost was the fact that he has never threatened me physically. I could have lied about him threatening me in person, but I won't do that.Since he "won" the hearing, I received three blocked calls with no one there and my employer has received 3 e-mails that just happen to coincide with the prank calls. The last e-mail is flat out hilarious. I've transcribed it below:

From: [Tim]Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 1:59PMTo: [Jayrod's new boss]Subject: FW: credit card receiptJust wanted to keep you abreast of the situation. The state of Missouri and our fine Governor along with the Attorney General's office are aware of the situation now. At anytime should you desire to see evidence for yourself to consider your [Jayrod] questions seriously, you are welcome to stop by and view this for yourself.[Tim]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------From: [Tim]Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 1:49PMTo: [MO DOR rep lady], [Tim's Private Investigator], [Tim's attorney]Subject: RE: credit card receipt[DOR lady], thank you for the help. I certainly do not recall initiating this transaction. I don't know if this is standard procedure for the Drivers License Unit to conduct a transaction like this. Or if it was my driver's license record or someone else. I'm assuming at least the $1.25 is the cost of the shipping and the $1.00 is the card processing fee? Is there any way to determine where the transaction was actually processed with more detail on the transaction itself?We have several of these types of charges using the company American Experess. Generally these are not on my card. This one stood out because it was $2.25 and was processed on my card. The fraudulent charges are generally processed using the cards held by the former employees who are suspects in a criminal investigation here locally. At least one of these former employees worked for Encore Payment Systems, a credit card processing company that provides POS terminals to process checks and credit cards. In the case of the local area contract operated DOR offices, we suspect he was servicing the credit card processing equipment in the [local] locations.We are in the process of determining through subpoena the exact merchant account holders because in many transactions they appear to pose as legitimate merchants only to divert funds to their own accounts. I know it all sounds high-tech like some kind of movie but this is precisely the scenario we have been investigating.[Tim]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------From: [MO DOR Rep lady]Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 1:36PMTo: [Tim]Subject: credit card receiptAccording to the Drivers License Unit, $1.25 was the cost of a driving record being mailed to you. The credit card fee was $1.00 for a total of $2.25.Let me know if you need anything else.Thanks,[DOR lady]

That's right, folks, this is evidence he is pursing of a fraud of a grand total of $2.25. He felt my boss needed to know this, even though I never even had a company AMEX card. Somehow I was supposed to research the exact bank accounts each AMEX transaction went to verify that it was indeed the proper company when I reconciled. Never mind the fact that I couldn't even get him to qualify his own personal card activity.My current boss had a pretty good laugh over this whole exchange. He has also started just ignoring all of "Tim's" e-mails. ETA: Also, LOL at "our fine Governor" is "aware".

Guy is clearly bananas, but the point of the email isn't the amount... He's accusing you of being part of a ring that runs credit cards for fraudulent purchases at point of sale. That's a very serious allegation that I'd entertain without really caring about the amounts in question, IF I BELIEVED IT HAD MERIT. He clearly believes that you were part of a fraud ring and it's the evidence of a fraudulent transaction that he's pointing out, not the amount that matters... Of course his logic in pinning you to a broader fraud ring is pretty damn thin to the point of it being libelous. Have you thought about going that route? If the guy is representing that you are part of a broader fraud investigation and that he has evidence tying you to fraudulent transactions, I wouldn't rest assured that everyone is just going to shrug it off... That really has to stop... Have you thought about suing him?

 

[Dragons]

Guy is clearly bananas, but the point of the email isn't the amount... He's accusing you of being part of a ring that runs credit cards for fraudulent purchases at point of sale. That's a very serious allegation that I'd entertain without really caring about the amounts in question, IF I BELIEVED IT HAD MERIT. He clearly believes that you were part of a fraud ring and it's the evidence of a fraudulent transaction that he's pointing out, not the amount that matters... Of course his logic in pinning you to a broader fraud ring is pretty damn thin to the point of it being libelous. Have you thought about going that route? If the guy is representing that you are part of a broader fraud investigation and that he has evidence tying you to fraudulent transactions, I wouldn't rest assured that everyone is just going to shrug it off... That really has to stop... Have you thought about suing him?

I don't even know if legal action will stop him. He will continually push the line as he is completely unconcerned with civil proceedings...he's involved in about 6 right now....it is only criminal charges that would ever shake him up.

It doesn't sound like suing him will make him go away. And it doesn't sound like the guy will have any money to pay damages. There is still one reason remaining to sue, to make a statement that the allegations aren't true, but that only matters if he's talking to anyone who gives a ####.

 

[TommyGilmore]

How is the guy able to hire a lawyer?

 

[badmojo1006]

I didn't read the whole thread but good luck Jayrod, he seems nuts.

But the one thing that stood out to me is his atrocious spelling. He does know that most emails have spellchecker, right?

 

[Jayrod]

Guy is clearly bananas, but the point of the email isn't the amount... He's accusing you of being part of a ring that runs credit cards for fraudulent purchases at point of sale. That's a very serious allegation that I'd entertain without really caring about the amounts in question, IF I BELIEVED IT HAD MERIT. He clearly believes that you were part of a fraud ring and it's the evidence of a fraudulent transaction that he's pointing out, not the amount that matters... Of course his logic in pinning you to a broader fraud ring is pretty damn thin to the point of it being libelous. Have you thought about going that route? If the guy is representing that you are part of a broader fraud investigation and that he has evidence tying you to fraudulent transactions, I wouldn't rest assured that everyone is just going to shrug it off... That really has to stop... Have you thought about suing him?

I don't even know if legal action will stop him. He will continually push the line as he is completely unconcerned with civil proceedings...he's involved in about 6 right now....it is only criminal charges that would ever shake him up.

It doesn't sound like suing him will make him go away. And it doesn't sound like the guy will have any money to pay damages. There is still one reason remaining to sue, to make a statement that the allegations aren't true, but that only matters if he's talking to anyone who gives a ####.

Nobody does....his private eye is actually a client of the firm I work for and has basically told my boss that he's trying to figure out a way to disengage from "Tim" without having to hear from him again.His new CPA is also from a town over 100 miles away and is his 4th CPA since 2008.

The problem is that he does still have some cash flow due to the nature of his business. He just stops paying one vendor once the balance gets too high and leaves them hanging unless they sue him aggressively. You'd be surprised how long that tactic can keep you in business. Even losing a suit doesn't mean anything until the vendor actually shows up at your door with the sheriff to collect (that actually happened when I worked there).

 

[Koya]

You seem pretty cavelier here. If I were you, I'd be pretty damn concerned with the Gov on my tail.

 

[Rayderr]

Nobody does....his private eye is actually a client of the firm I work for and has basically told my boss that he's trying to figure out a way to disengage from "Tim" without having to hear from him again.

His new CPA is also from a town over 100 miles away and is his 4th CPA since 2008.

Send this to the P.I. and CPA.

 

[JAA]

update?

 

[crnerblitz]

 

[flapgreen]

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[JAA]

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[JAA]

nipsle

 

[Jayrod]

Well, its been a long time, but this fruit bat is still attempting to defame my name directly to my employer. I started a thread about suing options earlier, but for now I think I'll just post some of his loony e-mails for you all to enjoy. The details won't make any sense, but the threats are getting comical. My current boss has received 12 separate emails in the last 35 days. Tried to block his e-mail but apparently it didn't work.To assist in keeping things straight, I've assigned names to the parties involved. Old boss is named "Tim". New boss is named "Ken".

06/16/11Ken, it’s the CIB auditor who possibly will want to speak to you and Jayrod. I don’t know what a CIB auditor is to be sure, do you? Perhaps you are better acquainted with Department of Revenue than me on these types of investigations. I’m not certain on this so don’t quote me just yet. Obviously there is more than one department helping and more than one area of law enforcement investigating the matter. I did take the liberty of letting them know you hired Jayrod in approximately January 2011. I provided your contact information at their request and of course we are anticipating the outcome of the query. If I can be of any assistance, please don’t hesitate in contacting me directly. Tim

06/20/11 Cash 11/20 Deleted Transaction 60,736 Check 11/20/2008 13:55:17 Jayrod 0.00Cash 11/20 Added Transaction 60,736 Check 11/20/2008 13:08:30 Jayrod 11/20/2008 Jayrod 1 day loan 1101 • Petty Cash 2012 • Due Employees -20.00 Ken, what are your thoughts on today’s theft example? Still want to take to the issue up with investigators or state board? Tim

06/21/11Ken, is it normal for the staff accountant in charge of petty cash to take $20 out of petty cash at 13:08:30 and then come back 46 minutes later and delete the transaction? I think this is called stealing? Oh it’s just a small example of a much larger pattern and it’s just $20. But it does tell you about the character of someone in charge of the money. I’m guessing you don’t allow Jayrod to handle money in his current capacity but I can’t think this is behavior you would tolerate? Let me know your opinion on the transaction itself. You’ll recall that you were providing compiled financial statements at the time of the transaction and presumably reviewing the QB’s files. You have previously asked me to inform you if we had examples of Jayrod committing crimes. Ultimately this will be introduced in the aforementioned complaint that goes to the state board and law enforcement. I can’t expect that you won’t respond and it seems to be a straight forward inquiry. I’m just pointing out the suspicious transaction to the CPA who reported compiled results for the period in question. Tim

06/22/1150,009 Bill Pmt -Check 12246 04/02/2007 16:33:24 Jayrod 04/02/2007 Best Tire Service 1100 • CHECKING -53.00 49,997 Bill 09803 04/02/2007 16:07:47 Jayrod 03/15/2007 Best Tire Service 2010 • Accounts Payable -53.00 TotalBest tire does not exist. We are obtaining the depositing account identity through subpoena. Fake vendor set up while Jayrod is in the role of oversight. Check cut and bill entered by Jayrod.

07/13/11Howdy Ken, I enclose another spreadsheet for review. Another question to ask when you visit with the employees around the water cooler…. This one is simple: Why did Jayrod accrue local County/ Missouri sales tax for (customer in Kansas) on all the sales to this customer? Answer: The same reason he did it on non-taxable (customer) in Iowa. Must have slipped through on you when you were compiling results? I think I’m starting to understand why you never billed me for over two years? Stay tuned there is more to come. Tim

 

[Jayrod]

07/18/11Ken, I’m going to give you the opportunity to show me how good an accountant you are with an exercise in fraud discovery. I can’t take credit for this one although it’s easy enough to see how it’s done and who is doing it. I don’t know that you’ll get much help around the water cooler at the office on this one… But it’s pretty easy to see the mechanism for fraud with this example so I wanted to share. It looks like the [bank] EDI software enables this and it’s not so clear if the any actual payments were made by [customer] through EDI (the credits in question are rooted in shipments to [customer] for [vendor] product purchased) or the [vendor] credits are created much later to use remote capture to divert payments on fake invoices. But just another example where your recent hire has his signature on the entry in a closed period where he was not an employee. But he was here to close the FY 2005-2006 books when you were the accountant doing compiled results. Let me know what you find unless you’re too scared to look. [customer] and [vendor] have already verified, I just wanted you to get a chance at redemption. Tim

07/19/11Today’s example: [customer] among others; [customer] in South Dakota (this example) verified they were paying freight bills collect to a third party. Many of these freight bills going collect are often billed to [company] as well. It’s a good example an off ledger scheme where former employees were benefiting. That’s what [customer] says anyway. The freight bills were higher than the value of the products shipped. They refused to pay these exorbitant invoices, Jayrod actually changes the billing later. They obviously could not justify paying freight bills that were clearly inflated. I highlighted these in yellow for your viewing pleasure. If you don’t understand what I’m saying, don’t hesitate to call me directly. I can put you in touch with several people who helped me that are well versed in this sort of fraud. Why don’t you take a look for yourself and have another question around the water cooler. At this point for me, your participation in this now will ultimately make a big difference. The decision to help or hinder is your decision. But in the end it will be the difference in our strategy to identify where, how and who to seek remedy and defining those who are responsible. I suspect you don’t want to be on the side of those who we know are guilty? Tim

07/19/11Let me try to rephrase what I meant: They (my former employees, your current employee) were separately billing freight “collect” to customers and getting paid handsomely on fake freight invoices that were already paid by [company] on the actual product invoices separately. There was no freight invoices to be billed collect because they had already been paid by [company]. What happened in the case of [customer] was they stopped paying the “collect” freight bills because they were ridiculously high. For example $1200 for one pallet shipping from Missouri or North Carolina to South Dakota is difficult to flag. Had I not trusted those in charge I might have caught this when it was brought to my attention but I didn’t know what they were clamoring about or that it was so out of bounds. But we all live and learn. We have many, many examples of fake freight being billed “collect” to customers separately when the real freight bill was actually already paid by [company] to the manufacturer. Guess who it was that created these separate invoices “collect” to the customers? Well ask around the water cooler and see if you see any fidgeting or beads of sweat. Tim

07/19/11Ken, my comments below to the actual customer: Attached are the invoices to [customer] and our purchase order to [vendor]. Jayrod issues PO’s to [vendor] where freight is paid to [vendor] on our invoice. There would be no freight invoice to mistakenly bill incorrectly. Nonetheless he does the same thing three times. If discovery would not have ultimately revealed this in our litigation with [vendor], we are surprisingly getting support from customers like [customer] and [customer] to determine how often fake bills were going out separately and being paid by our customers.

Gerald, we had three examples of this same scenario in 4Q2008/1Q2009. From what I can deduce freight bills that we had already paid, were being re-billed by former employees. These shipments can go either A.) PPD “pre pay and add” where we pay freight, Collect-the freight bill goes directly to our customer, or COD which means the payment is made by the receiver and collected by the driver. What is odd about these invoices is 1) the actual freight was paid by [company] and it was only $200. There would be no separate freight bill to consider and 2) it’s a redundant mistake made by the same person who already knows freight was paid by [company]. I provided one example but it occurs three times in the period. What I’m hoping you can help me deduce is if [company] had ever been paying freight bills on our shipments separately and if this particular invoice 13500 was paid. It’s only for freight and it’s a whopping $1192.50 (sales tax included on freight?) I would expect this to have been questioned if it was in fact paid at all. Thanks for the help, I owe you a sweet tea! Tim Doofenschmitz

07/19/11So far we have learned that on most customer invoices where freight is being billed "collect" the party billing the freight is former employees.In a lot of these cases, the freight that was actually being billed, was on the invoices from the manufacturer. In other words, I paid the freight and then the customer pays my former employees.If this isn't easy to understand, I'll be happy to explain it. Only it won't be around the water cooler when I explain it.

07/26/11Ken, all the entries in QB’s where “redo” is the sales rep are instances of fraud. Quite literally as the name would suggest; the entry was redone after we collected payments from customers. Now our customers never knew about this. This is why the payments stay the same. But after the fact the sales transaction is redone by altering the physical weight of the shipments to balance the payment to suggest sales tax was collected. This change in physical weight alters the original invoice to the customer and reduces the amount of the sale. However the check payment from our customers never changes except there is a bogus sales tax liability to which your current employee (my former employee(s)) were using this as a method to pull money out of the company. We have proof of this now and our customers are cooperating. It’s merely a matter of accumulating evidence and tallying the figures. I will extend the offer once again for Mr. Jayrod to cooperate. If he doesn’t I want you to understand there won’t be a distinction in holding both you and Mr. Jayrod culpable for the enterprise. Where this goes from here is entirely in your hands. This is coming from you to me at this juncture. Not through counsel, [private investigator] or the authorities. I want to be certain you understand this is no longer theory but is rooted in the facts with evidence to support a conclusion. Tim

Hi-larious

 

[Rick James]

At this point it stops being a funny annoyance. He's badgering your boss to fire you. Sue his ### for harassment if what he's saying is false.

 

[Frostillicus]

I think you did it.

 

[Big Cat]

You need to introduce Tim to slayer666.

 

[Jayrod]

At this point it stops being a funny annoyance. He's badgering your boss to fire you. Sue his ### for harassment if what he's saying is false.

Yeah, I looked into that. Likely to cost more than I would get in return (if anything). Best option is small claims court if I want to go through all the hassle.

 

[Joe Summer]

So....does Best Tire exist or not???

 

[Jayrod]

So....does Best Tire exist or not???

I tried to find them online and couldn't. Could be a DBA or something or just an error.But it was $53.00

 

[Disco Stu]

I think you did it.

That's the scuttlebutt around the water cooler.

 

[iamsmilin]

I think you did it.

The evidence is obviously against you. THIEF! Can we get a pitchfork smilie? TIA.

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

Does "Ken" ever respond? Your ex-boss is a loon. Why does he care?

 

[SacramentoBob]

Looks like he's got you dead to rights.

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

lol at the water cooler.

 

[Jayrod]

07/26/11

Ken, all the entries in QB’s where “redo” is the sales rep are instances of fraud. Quite literally as the name would suggest; the entry was redone after we collected payments from customers. Now our customers never knew about this. This is why the payments stay the same. But after the fact the sales transaction is redone by altering the physical weight of the shipments to balance the payment to suggest sales tax was collected.

This change in physical weight alters the original invoice to the customer and reduces the amount of the sale. However the check payment from our customers never changes except there is a bogus sales tax liability to which your current employee (my former employee(s)) were using this as a method to pull money out of the company.

We have proof of this now and our customers are cooperating. It’s merely a matter of accumulating evidence and tallying the figures.

I will extend the offer once again for Mr. Jayrod to cooperate. If he doesn’t I want you to understand there won’t be a distinction in holding both you and Mr. Jayrod culpable for the enterprise. Where this goes from here is entirely in your hands. This is coming from you to me at this juncture. Not through counsel, [private investigator] or the authorities. I want to be certain you understand this is no longer theory but is rooted in the facts with evidence to support a conclusion.

Tim

Hi-larious

The bolded part keeps cracking me up. This is exactly what he told me for a week before he fired me. That was September 2009. I haven't been approached by a single law enforcement officer in all that time. How many times can a sane man cry wolf and expect a different result? I'm pretty sure this goofball is well past whatever the number is.

 

[Harry Manback]

Why hasn't your boss responded simply with "Shut the #### up you crazy #######. Never email me again."

 

[Jayrod]

Does "Ken" ever respond? Your ex-boss is a loon. Why does he care?

He responded I think twice....right around the time I started in Jan/Feb. I think he regrets it to this day.

 

[BroadwayG]

Does the double bill shipping scam still work? Can I get in on it?

 

[Jayrod]

Why hasn't your boss responded simply with "Shut the #### up you crazy #######. Never email me again."

My boss is a very conservative old school CPA. I think because he had a previous working relationship with "Tim" that he feels compelled to at least allow him to e-mail. But then again he has been saying things like, "Man--I'm tired of this ####."

 

[Disco Stu]

Faking your own death seems to be the only option. Mention him in the suicide note. Repeatedly.

 

[General Malaise]

Dude, just kick his asss and be done with it.

 

[Jayrod]

Dude, just kick his asss and be done with it.

I've fantasized about this many, many, many, many, many, many times.

 

[Sarnoff]

Don't you know any goons who could cause an "accident"?

 

[Jayrod]

I just got a phone call from a private number and no one is there.

This is his special way of telling me he is thinking about me.

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

I just got a phone call from a private number and no one is there.This is his special way of telling me he is thinking about me.

Can you get his wife in on this action somehow? She's pretty hot IIRC from the other thread. Just tell her that her husband is a loon and wouldn't it be nice to have dinner & drinks with a real man?

 

[Sand]

Sooo...

Is this you?

 

[Frostillicus]

How much did you make off with?

 

[Jayrod]

How much did you make off with?

Considering he stiffed me on my last two weeks of pay while still "employed" and never paid out my final expense check, somewhere in the neighborhood of a negative $3,500.

 

[SacramentoBob]

How much did you make off with?

Considering he stiffed me on my last two weeks of pay while still "employed" and never paid out my final expense check, somewhere in the neighborhood of a negative $3,500.

You were making $7K a month from this guy and still stole from him?