Giants cut Plax Burress (1 Viewer)

[garyd]

Plax is going to jail. Here in NY we don't see a news report about him without them also replaying the clip of Mayor Bloomberg saying he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And with Bloomberg running for re-election in 09, you can bet that statement is repeated to the Manhattan DA's office every week. It's been reported that his lawyer has already negotiated two plea deals that Plax rejected because "they included too much jail time". Pile on this latest bit that ESPN reports about him requesting a trade and not willing to compromise during the NFLPA grievance hearing....and the Giants just said enough is enough...he's been a good player here, but it just ain't worth it anymore.

 

[GECKO]

feliz senderos

 

[TwinTurbo]

Plax is going to jail. Here in NY we don't see a news report about him without them also replaying the clip of Mayor Bloomberg saying he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And with Bloomberg running for re-election in 09, you can bet that statement is repeated to the Manhattan DA's office every week. It's been reported that his lawyer has already negotiated two plea deals that Plax rejected because "they included too much jail time". Pile on this latest bit that ESPN reports about him requesting a trade and not willing to compromise during the NFLPA grievance hearing....and the Giants just said enough is enough...he's been a good player here, but it just ain't worth it anymore.

Only about 14% of the people in NYC charged last year with the same charge that Burress faces were ultimately convicted of it. Many received reduced charges and some plea deals included jail time. Plax might get jail time but this isn't a slam dunk for the prosecution if it goes to trial. I know it may seem that way, but a lot of things can happen with a jury especially since Plax has no prior criminal record. The percentage of convictions favors Plax here. And while I am a fan of Bloomberg, he needs to stay out of this.

 

[red_stapler]

He played really well for us and that will be missed, although that can be replaced. He was also a real jackass a lot of the time so good riddance.

Good riddance? Wow, I thought Giants fans, despite all of Burress' knucklehead behavior, would be a little more appreciative of a guy whom without you wouldn't have won that Super Bowl last year. Guess not.

As a Giants fan I certainly appreciate what he did for the team, but I don't appreciate him acting like a thug. Guys like this need to be sent a message - if you act like a thug, you won't be playing in the NFL.

I couldn't agree more. Punks and thug-like behavior are ruining the NFL (as well as other professional sports, but I don't really follow those sports).

 

[Liquid Tension]

Plax is going to jail. Here in NY we don't see a news report about him without them also replaying the clip of Mayor Bloomberg saying he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And with Bloomberg running for re-election in 09, you can bet that statement is repeated to the Manhattan DA's office every week. It's been reported that his lawyer has already negotiated two plea deals that Plax rejected because "they included too much jail time". Pile on this latest bit that ESPN reports about him requesting a trade and not willing to compromise during the NFLPA grievance hearing....and the Giants just said enough is enough...he's been a good player here, but it just ain't worth it anymore.

Only about 14% of the people in NYC charged last year with the same charge that Burress faces were ultimately convicted of it. Many received reduced charges and some plea deals included jail time. Plax might get jail time but this isn't a slam dunk for the prosecution if it goes to trial. I know it may seem that way, but a lot of things can happen with a jury especially since Plax has no prior criminal record. The percentage of convictions favors Plax here. And while I am a fan of Bloomberg, he needs to stay out of this.

The Mayor should stay out of it. that being said, in how many of those cases did the gun go off?

 

[Couch Potato]

I'm seeing the word thug used a lot. What qualifies a guy as a thug? When I hear that term I think of someone who goes around intentionally hurting other people. When a guy nearly shoots off his own weenie trying to be cool, I call him a dork.

 

[puckalicious]

I can't see any team signing him before knowing what his sentence will be, or getting a feel from Goodell what his coming suspension will likely be. I don't see how the DA will accept anything less than a plea deal for 6 months in jail, I read that this charge usually results in a plea deal of 12 months in jail. I have a feeling this is what Plax has already turned down...

If he goes to trial I don't think it will end well for him at all. IMO no way he sees the field this year even if a team does sign him.

 

[massraider]

Plax is going to jail. Here in NY we don't see a news report about him without them also replaying the clip of Mayor Bloomberg saying he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And with Bloomberg running for re-election in 09, you can bet that statement is repeated to the Manhattan DA's office every week. It's been reported that his lawyer has already negotiated two plea deals that Plax rejected because "they included too much jail time". Pile on this latest bit that ESPN reports about him requesting a trade and not willing to compromise during the NFLPA grievance hearing....and the Giants just said enough is enough...he's been a good player here, but it just ain't worth it anymore.

Only about 14% of the people in NYC charged last year with the same charge that Burress faces were ultimately convicted of it. Many received reduced charges and some plea deals included jail time. Plax might get jail time but this isn't a slam dunk for the prosecution if it goes to trial. I know it may seem that way, but a lot of things can happen with a jury especially since Plax has no prior criminal record. The percentage of convictions favors Plax here. And while I am a fan of Bloomberg, he needs to stay out of this.

Well, I think we'd need to know the percentage of cases that went to trial, and didn't result in covictions. 14% sounds low, but if 80% are smart enough to plead down, it changes things a bit.I agree it's no slam dunk, especially because I assume Plax will have better lawyers than the average gun-toting knucklehead.

 

[Jason Wood]

Regarding the legal statistics being bandied about, you have to consider this is entirely different b/c plea negotiations have stalled. Assuming Plax goes to trial, there's a much greater chance of jail time. And from what I understand, the plea discussions haven't been about avoiding jail time, but rather Plax's lawyers have tried to get a situation worked out where he could do his time during the NFL offseason [like Jamal Lewis did] and that's where the hold up is.

But there's more to this story than jail time. Mike Lombardi and Bob Poppa were on NFL Network explaining that the decision to cut him had little directly to do with the charges. They were all set to stick by Plax on that front, but Burress has been ungrateful in arguing that he wanted the $1mm of his bonus money back that the Giants withheld and was unwilling to accept their settlement agreement. That was the last straw as Jerry Reese couldn't understand how a guy they were supporting and standing by in the face of jail time would refuse to meet them halfway on a financial penalty that Plax clearly warranted.

Either way, this is a HUGE blow to the Giants. They have been a shadow of themselves offensively when Plax hasn't been healthy and in the lineup, and Manning has looked nothing like the franchise QB who won them a Super Bowl.

 

[Multiple Scores]

There are rumors that the Bengals Mike Brown might move Chad Johnson on draft day. He is a player who could prove to be very valuable to a team like New York. He has his own set of issues but they are much different than Plaxico and I think if he went to a team like the Giants he would shut up and flat out produce. It's not like he's the first guy who ever wanted out of Cincy.

 

[bcr8f]

Did you see Mayock's face yesterday?

Eisen said this is the strangest story he's seen and Mayock said "you don't carry a gun in your waistband?" and had this look.

He could have added the safety wasn't even on.

 

[Mark Wimer]

Absent local pressure not to hurt the home team one wonders if the prosecution will now stiffen in their resolve.

This was my thinking as well. I didn't think he'd go to jail before but this greatly ups the likelihood of him doing time.

I think it definitely strengthens the prosecution's hand vis-a-vis any possible plea deal. It also decreases the likelihood of a jury trial ending in a deadlocked jury for Burress as the holdout, hometown fan won't now have motivation to create a hung jury. Bad news for the defense here, IMO.

 

[brednbuddah]

I will be surprised if he ever plays a down in the NFL again.

Paging UFL.

Vick to Plax

 

[Giantseasonticketholder]

Regarding the legal statistics being bandied about, you have to consider this is entirely different b/c plea negotiations have stalled. Assuming Plax goes to trial, there's a much greater chance of jail time. And from what I understand, the plea discussions haven't been about avoiding jail time, but rather Plax's lawyers have tried to get a situation worked out where he could do his time during the NFL offseason [like Jamal Lewis did] and that's where the hold up is.

But there's more to this story than jail time. Mike Lombardi and Bob Poppa were on NFL Network explaining that the decision to cut him had little directly to do with the charges. They were all set to stick by Plax on that front, but Burress has been ungrateful in arguing that he wanted the $1mm of his bonus money back that the Giants withheld and was unwilling to accept their settlement agreement. That was the last straw as Jerry Reese couldn't understand how a guy they were supporting and standing by in the face of jail time would refuse to meet them halfway on a financial penalty that Plax clearly warranted.

Either way, this is a HUGE blow to the Giants. They have been a shadow of themselves offensively when Plax hasn't been healthy and in the lineup, and Manning has looked nothing like the franchise QB who won them a Super Bowl.

This is exactly right. The Giants were sick of his prima donna attitude. They had basically forgiven him for the incident and were willing to stand by him until this all played out. Plax was pissed the Giants didn't pay him his roster bonus and were trying to renegotiate a new deal.If any of this was not going to change Plaxico the man, then they don't need Plaxico the WR. I was upset at first, but after hearing why Reese really let him go, I'm OK with it.

 

[houndirish]

I wholeheartedly support the team's decision to end this saga. While the gun fiasco has gotten a ton of press, Plax simply hasn't been the same player since he got his contract after the Super Bowl. He went from being a warrior who played through injuries to both ankles and still performed at a dominant level to a guy who suddenly seemed to lack intensity and drive. Additionally, he was much more of a headache. The Giants had to fine him multiple times for his attitude. He'd show up late to meetings. His numbers weren't anything special in most of the games he did play last year. He seemed to turn into a guy who thought he had a free pass. The gun mishap supports this mindset of behavior.

While I completely agree the Giants became easier to defend without him in the lineup, I don't see how they could make any future plans that relied on Plax's production moving foreward since he gave the team zero reason to have confidence in him. He was making bad decision after bad decision. The gun was just the one that got the most press and had the biggest impact.

Even if the Giants stuck by Plax, and even if he avoided jail time, and even if he avoided a long suspension from Goodell (all very big "if's"), I'm still not convinced Plax was going to return to being the dominant receiver he was in '07. It just doesn't seem likely that a guy can go through all of this and come out the same force he was before. And in Plax's case, there hasn't exactly been an overflow of apologies for his behavior. I can't even truly say he's learned his lesson.

Giants brass is absolutely making the right call here. I hope the guy can straighten out his life and not waste away his talent. But this is a guy who hasn't given the team much reason to stand by him.

 

[brednbuddah]

Absent local pressure not to hurt the home team one wonders if the prosecution will now stiffen in their resolve.

This was my thinking as well. I didn't think he'd go to jail before but this greatly ups the likelihood of him doing time.

I think it definitely strengthens the prosecution's hand vis-a-vis any possible plea deal. It also decreases the likelihood of a jury trial ending in a deadlocked jury for Burress as the holdout, hometown fan won't now have motivation to create a hung jury. Bad news for the defense here, IMO.

add in that mayor bloomberg is adamant about making sure plax receives no special treatment.

 

[RC94]

Burress leaves a wake of pissed off people wherever he goes. Here is the latest example of his charming personality:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4045389

 

[Redwes25]

Did you see Mayock's face yesterday?

Eisen said this is the strangest story he's seen and Mayock said "you don't carry a gun in your waistband?" and had this look.



He could have added the safety wasn't even on.

A glock doesn't have a safety.