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Giants v. Packers - NFC Ice Bowl 2008 (1 Viewer)

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When you live in the upper Midwest, negative signs are expected in front of the temperatures during winter.

The Giants may want to pack a pair of long undies though.

 
Saturday night wind chills are going to be around 25-30 below. Now that's getting closer to ice bowl temps..I might be offered a ticket to this game and I'm thinking about turning it down. It's going to be that cold. Am I nuts?

 
Saturday night wind chills are going to be around 25-30 below. Now that's getting closer to ice bowl temps..I might be offered a ticket to this game and I'm thinking about turning it down. It's going to be that cold. Am I nuts?
As a Bears fan who was at the NFC Championship game last year...and will tell my grandhcildren the story...#### YES, YOUR NUTS!! Jeebus, get yourself some long undies some boot and glove warmer packets and cheer your team onto SUPERBOWL XLII!!!!Glad I'll be warm in front of the TV. :thumbup:
 
Saturday night wind chills are going to be around 25-30 below. Now that's getting closer to ice bowl temps..I might be offered a ticket to this game and I'm thinking about turning it down. It's going to be that cold. Am I nuts?
As a Bears fan who was at the NFC Championship game last year...and will tell my grandhcildren the story...#### YES, YOUR NUTS!! Jeebus, get yourself some long undies some boot and glove warmer packets and cheer your team onto SUPERBOWL XLII!!!!Yeah I've been on the fence about it. I went to a cold regular season game last year, temps below zero and I said I'd never do it again. Beer freezing in my hand before I could drink it type cold. It would be hard to turn away an NFC Championship ticket though.Glad I'll be warm in front of the TV. :thumbup:
 
:thumbup:When you live in the upper Midwest, negative signs are expected in front of the temperatures during winter.The Giants may want to pack a pair of long undies though.
Though this is the first stretch of sub zero weather we've had this winter in WI.
 
Not that it makes a big difference, but why does Sat night's weather matter?

To be honest I would Giants are better off banging away with Jacobs and Bradshaw. And its not like they play in Tampa.

 
Yeah look out cause the Giants will be leaving the lush tropical beaches on the East River of New York City for the cold confines of Green Bay.

 
I'll get crap for this but I am a fan of the teams deciding the game, not the weather. I know, I know, homefield advantage and all that talk but it just isn't all that fun to watch when the teams can't do what they did all year to get there.

 
sgtcarter said:
the weather is a non-issue in this game. The Giants play outdoors, in cold,wintry NJ. We've had many games with sub zero windchills over the years..Heck, Atlanta went up there and beat them in the playoffs, a few years back..it was cold then too...so just how did a domed team beat the Mighty Pack @ Lambeau...? LOL..this is just another cold football game, but another Ice Bowl? No.

 
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I'll get crap for this but I am a fan of the teams deciding the game, not the weather. I know, I know, homefield advantage and all that talk but it just isn't all that fun to watch when the teams can't do what they did all year to get there.
For the most part I agree with this but they aren't playing Tampa Bay or another team from the south. I think the weather in New York isn't a whole lot different than WI this time of year.
 
The weather issue is always hugely overrated. It will not be an advantage for any team.

Also, if you have a chance to go to this game please don't wimp out because of the weather, particularly if you are a Packers fan. Seeing a conference championship at home is the ultimate experience for a football fan, and a rareity. A super bowl pales in comparison to the experience of attending a conference championship at your home field filled with your home fans.

 
http://www.packers.com/history/fast_facts/...ded_home_games/

Packers home stats when it's cold. They're 6-4 when the temperature is 10 and under in Dec/Jan.

This will look bad but I'll copy/paste.

Temp. Date Opponent Res. GB Opp

-13 Dec 31, 1967 Dallas Cowboys (GB) W 21 17

0 Dec 26, 1993 Los Angeles Raiders (GB) W 28 0

2 Dec 22, 1990 Detroit Lions (GB) L 17 24

3 Jan 12, 1997 Carolina Panthers (GB) W 30 13

6 Nov 28, 1976 Chicago Bears (GB) L 10 16

8 Dec 20, 1992 Los Angeles Rams (GB) W 28 13

10 Dec 3, 1972 Detroit Lions (GB) W 33 7

10 Dec 4, 1977 Detroit Lions (GB) W 10 9

10 Dec 12, 1982 Detroit Lions (GB) L 10 30

10 Dec 15, 1991 Detroit Lions (GB) L 17 21

 
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http://www.packers.com/history/fast_facts/...ded_home_games/

Packers home stats when it's cold. They're 6-4 when the temperature is 10 and under in Dec/Jan.

This will look bad but I'll copy/paste.

Temp. Date Opponent Res. GB Opp

-13 Dec 31, 1967 Dallas Cowboys (GB) W 21 17

0 Dec 26, 1993 Los Angeles Raiders (GB) W 28 0

2 Dec 22, 1990 Detroit Lions (GB) L 17 24

3 Jan 12, 1997 Carolina Panthers (GB) W 30 13

6 Nov 28, 1976 Chicago Bears (GB) L 10 16

8 Dec 20, 1992 Los Angeles Rams (GB) W 28 13

10 Dec 3, 1972 Detroit Lions (GB) W 33 7

10 Dec 4, 1977 Detroit Lions (GB) W 10 9

10 Dec 12, 1982 Detroit Lions (GB) L 10 30

10 Dec 15, 1991 Detroit Lions (GB) L 17 21
Interestingly, their record isn't nearly as good if you take out the games vs. southern and California teams. (Is Carolina south?)However, with so many players being from all over, I don't think it matters as much as compared to how a team is constructed. (i.e. the reason the Colts had histroically played bad in Foxboro was more a function of the fact that they were more a speed/passing team, whereas the Patriots in the past were built around stout defense and a running game.) I also think wind and rain is more a factor than snow or cold in terms of upsetting the passing game - although a snowy field helps WRs, as they know where they are going.

 
sgtcarter said:
the weather is a non-issue in this game. The Giants play outdoors, in cold,wintry NJ. We've had many games with sub zero windchills over the years..Heck, Atlanta went up there and beat them in the playoffs, a few years back..it was cold then too...so just how did a domed team beat the Mighty Pack @ Lambeau...? LOL..this is just another cold football game, but another Ice Bowl? No.
<Sigh> Remembering the good times, when I thought our troubles were over...
 
I don't understand how people can say the weather is a "non-issue." It's obviously an issue as you have to adjust your gameplane to account for it. The ball doesn't travel as well in the air, nor is it as easy to catch. In addition, Eli hasn't exactly had a great history in cold weather play. Many believe that his second half slides have been reflective of the temperature. Eli has been practicing with a glove on his non-throwing hand to see if it helps with snaps. You will likely see both teams try to establish a running game and play defence against the run (I have read that GB typically plays 7 in the box - don't be surprised to see them go with 8 in the box early). Is the weather an issue on game plans? Of course.

side note: earlier this week I was wondering if the machisimo attitude of linemen will impact what they wear. This morning I read that one of the Giants O-lineman stated that the whole line will almost assuredly go without long sleeves. Earlier this year Strahan had said that when the weather gets cold he's going to wear long sleeves. He effectively said that doing without them is stupid.

 
sgtcarter said:
the weather is a non-issue in this game. The Giants play outdoors, in cold,wintry NJ. We've had many games with sub zero windchills over the years..Heck, Atlanta went up there and beat them in the playoffs, a few years back..it was cold then too...so just how did a domed team beat the Mighty Pack @ Lambeau...? LOL..this is just another cold football game, but another Ice Bowl? No.
I thought I saw something posted here earlier that the Giants haven't played a game under 30 degrees in 3 years. I don't feel like looking for it, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Temps around -10 feel a lot different then 30. Should be fun. Glad I'll be in my warm house at this point.
 
I think that handling the cold is a function of personal toughness. Some players thrive even though they are from Florida or Mississippi or SoCal, others wilt. As a team with 22 starters, I'd think it has more to do with the toughness of the QB and RB mainly. That said, I've seen nothing from Eli or Jacobs to suggest they aren't tough enough to deal with it.

 
the weather is a non-issue in this game.
Anyone who thinks that is kidding themselves. Go look up Eli Manning's numbers in cold weather games vs. non-cold weather games.
Spoken like a true Packer fan that thinks the game is already over.. Still not sure why the Giants & especially Eli need to show up on Sunday.. Maybe the Giants should just start their backup QB.. He won't be as cold..
 
the weather is a non-issue in this game.
Anyone who thinks that is kidding themselves. Go look up Eli Manning's numbers in cold weather games vs. non-cold weather games.
Spoken like a true Packer fan that thinks the game is already over.. Still not sure why the Giants & especially Eli need to show up on Sunday.. Maybe the Giants should just start their backup QB.. He won't be as cold..
I am not a Packers fan, but thanks for your input into this thread, nonetheless. :shrug:
 
the weather is a non-issue in this game.
Anyone who thinks that is kidding themselves. Go look up Eli Manning's numbers in cold weather games vs. non-cold weather games.
Spoken like a true Packer fan that thinks the game is already over.. Still not sure why the Giants & especially Eli need to show up on Sunday.. Maybe the Giants should just start their backup QB.. He won't be as cold..
Pretty weak statement there Kuz. :shrug:
 
the weather is a non-issue in this game.
Anyone who thinks that is kidding themselves. Go look up Eli Manning's numbers in cold weather games vs. non-cold weather games.
Spoken like a true Packer fan that thinks the game is already over.. Still not sure why the Giants & especially Eli need to show up on Sunday.. Maybe the Giants should just start their backup QB.. He won't be as cold..
Pretty weak statement there Kuz. :lmao:
most likely.. I didn't mean to come off as such a jackass.. which is how it turns out.. Just getting sick of the look at Eli's stats in cold games garbage... People use that all the time but never talk about him also being 9-1 on the road this year. Believe me I think the Packers will most likely win but I doubt it's because Eli can't play in the cold etc...
 
the weather is a non-issue in this game.
Anyone who thinks that is kidding themselves. Go look up Eli Manning's numbers in cold weather games vs. non-cold weather games.
Spoken like a true Packer fan that thinks the game is already over.. Still not sure why the Giants & especially Eli need to show up on Sunday.. Maybe the Giants should just start their backup QB.. He won't be as cold..
I am not a Packers fan, but thanks for your input into this thread, nonetheless. :bag:
This has been a highly discussed issue on NY sports radio since the end of the season, so there is merit to the statement. That being said, it is just another hurdle for Manning to overcome as he continues to blossom. Go Giants! :goodposting:
 
As of right now, it's projected to be a temperature of -5 degrees with a wind chill of -25 degrees.

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I think the weather in foxboro (brisk winds) will be a bigger factor than the cold of green bay. i don't see the Packers as having much if any advantage because of the cold. The Packers are a pretty young team so most of their players don't have a lot of experience in cold weather.

 
Seeing a conference championship at home is the ultimate experience for a football fan, and a rareity. A super bowl pales in comparison to the experience of attending a conference championship at your home field filled with your home fans.
:rolleyes: this one is gonna be bananas
 
-4 in Milwaukee right now

The last really cold game I was at was the '97 NFC Championship game against Carolina. I believe it was somewhere between zero and 5 degrees most of the game. I was never really uncomfortable that day. The biggest problem was the beer freezing before I could drink it. Will have to remember to pack the flask tomorrow.

 
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If the temps were going to be anywhere above 10 degrees I'd say the weather would not be an issue. But living here in Wisconsin and having just come in from outside, I can tell you that the temperature is absolutely going to affect this game. It is bonechilling cold right now, and my thermometer reads a flat 0 with the sun shining on it. The wind takes your breath away and your nostril hairs freeze together. If temps are -5 at kickoff, they are only going to go down as the game goes on. Those guys are going to freeze sitting on the bench. Produce all the stats you want about 'coldweather games', but there is a big difference between games played below freezing and games played below 0. There haven't been very many of the latter.

 
The weather will only affect the mentally weak teams. If the Giants get up two touchdowns, look for the Pack to roll over, like they did against the Bears.

 
The weather will only affect the mentally weak teams. If the Giants get up two touchdowns, look for the Pack to roll over, like they did against the Bears.
:goodposting: :thumbup: How did the Packers do last week when they got behind by two touchdowns in bad weather? Check it out, and let me know, okay? Thanks.
 
The weather will only affect the mentally weak teams. If the Giants get up two touchdowns, look for the Pack to roll over, like they did against the Bears.
You all can keep holding onto hope about that one Bears game.Were you not claiming the same thing before the Hawks game? Or was that some Hawks homer that was?
 
The weather will only affect the mentally weak teams. If the Giants get up two touchdowns, look for the Pack to roll over, like they did against the Bears.
The issue with the Bears game wasn't the cold, it was the wind. Packers proved last week that this team has a lot of character. They got down by 14 in the first 4 minutes of the game and were strong enough to dominate the rest of the game in very wintry conditions. Keep trying.
 

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