E Street Brat
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I think that sums up Beck pretty well
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perry147
Footballguy
E Street Brat
Footballguy
Way back before the TV show, and he became so popular. Stu would call them something like "Glenn Beck Fast Facts". He would just blurt out stuff off the top of head with out any knowledge of of it being true or not. I think he tends to be little more careful now that everything he says gets plastered all over the web. After the 2004 election, he started taking stuff way more serious. Like a lot of people he felt dupped by Bush. He has said he was blinded by 9/11 and felt that security was so important that he looked the other way on to many other issues, that has brought us to where we are today.
Spanky267
Footballguy
Way back before the TV show, and he became so popular. Stu would call them something like "Glenn Beck Fast Facts". He would just blurt out stuff off the top of head with out any knowledge of of it being true or not. I think he tends to be little more careful now that everything he says gets plastered all over the web. After the 2004 election, he started taking stuff way more serious. Like a lot of people he felt dupped by Bush. He has said he was blinded by 9/11 and felt that security was so important that he looked the other way on to many other issues, that has brought us to where we are today.
E Street, youve probably been listening to Glenn going back to 2000 when he was the 3-6pm host. He was alot more comical back then. 9/11 started to change that. Although he still used comedy alot his shows did take on a more serious tone in general. As he's taken on greater national prominence he has gotten more serious. There isnt as much comedy in his Fox show as there was on his HNN show. I do agree that he's the kind of guy that will say whats on his mind even if it might get him in trouble.
Gigantomachia
Footballguy
It's called a joke. Lighten up Francis
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
I am not a fan of Olberman....but HOLY CRAP GLENN BECK IS NUTS!!!!"an ancient cretin pictograph"urbanhack said:
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
Crazy, meet obsessed. Obsessed...crazy.
jamny
Footballguy
I think they're all just working together in one giant fishing trip.
Jutz
Footballguy
Was Beck the first one to start investigating Van Jones? Beck is the first place I heard of him... but wasn't sure if he was the first.
If he is... based on what I recently heard... the WH is distancing themselves big time from Jones... and he may not make it through next week. That would esentially mean Beck got Jones fired... pretty impressive for an insane guy...
If he is... based on what I recently heard... the WH is distancing themselves big time from Jones... and he may not make it through next week. That would esentially mean Beck got Jones fired... pretty impressive for an insane guy...
jamny
Footballguy
I mentioned this in another thread. If Jones loses his job, a major reason is because of Beck. He's been railing against him for months.
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Crazy don't mean stupid
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
In Beck's case, it does.
Fennis
Footballguy
http://www.johnsonforamerica.com/
Is Glenn Beck chaning his tune?
Saturday, September 19
Let me say definitively, NO. He also apparently has no clue as to what has been going on in Iraq for the last six years. He claims in this video that we should go into Afghanistan, hit them hard, show them who is boss and pull right on out to the ticker tape parades. He thinks they will be so scared they wouldn't dare mess with us again if we use Glenn Beck style warfare. Kind of like terrorizing them back.
I have a few questions for him on that. What does he think took place in Iraq since the invasion? Why do you think 4,662 men and women have died in Iraq? Why do you think we stayed after foreign fighters from around the middle east came to fight us and thousands of Iraqi locals took up arms? Why did we go into the cities and throughout the country hunting down people who were setting IED's against our vehicles and troops? Are you saying our Armed Forces went in half assed when they took down the Republican Guard? That is because we did not kick their heads in hard enough, we caused thousands of men from Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and all over the middle east to come fight us in Iraq? Do you think we really stayed for some experiment to see if we could try out nation building?
For him to suggest that his idea is not what happened to the T in Iraq makes me really wonder how closely he followed or understands the war in Iraq, the one he was so in favor of fighting. His solution to stop nation building, is to do what we did in Iraq, but instead of not listen to guys like him who told us that if we left, the whole middle east would collapse and be taken over by terroists.
HELLO GLENN BECK, we stayed for the reasons you claim to support. If you don't think it was for oil, democracy, WMD's or for middle east empire building, you have to think we were sending a message to the radicals in the middle east. Did I miss where we tossed flower grenades and shot people with confetti?
That is what Iraq has been about, sadly. We showed the muslim world we would stay, fight, take thousands of casualties, spend hundreds of billions of dollars, kill thousands of civilians and dang near destroy the country. Middle east who might have wanted to start something with America, could not believe this guy Bush. Lying about WMD, going in without United Nations, then suddenly say it was for democracy after the WMD did not show up. No, just going in fighting the army Saddam had, remember "bring it on", we were staying right there, taking the fight anyone who dared take up arms and alot of civilians in the way. So how has Beck changed his opinion again?
Let me explain something to Beck and to anyone who thinks he is somehow changing his foreign policy to something more reasonable or more libertarian.
We destroyed Saddams army fast and hard, sorry it was not hard enough for Glenn. We were about to turn the country over to the interim govt rounded up by the Coalition Provisional Authority. Just what Beck is advocating we do if we roll deep into Afghanistan. But guess what, the situation on the ground would not allow us to leave like he says he wants to do now in Afghanistan. They fought back, the enemy started to hit us with guerilla warfare. Setting IED's, firing rockets onto our camps and bombing religous sites to spark chaos. They started to fight and fight hard, using tactics that we were not prepared to deal with effectively. Remember Glenn, we have been at war here in Iraq for the last 5 years, fighting the guys who were not scared.
He is advocating another long drawn out Iraq war, plain and simple, only in Afghanistan. It is the neoCon class who want to make Afghanistan the next big fight. Beck is calling for exactly that in this video. A homegrown insurgent, guerilla warfare battle, against people who hate us for their own reasons. But if we went into Afghanistan full force, guns blazzing, 150k+ troops, with the intent of slaughtering any and all Al-Queada, then just march right on out with victory declared, we might have a worse situation, right? Was that not the rational feed to the people by Beck, and the entire Republican party during the 2008 election.
Glenn Beck does not know what he believes or thinks. He has no foreign policy principles other than what comes to his mind at that moment. I posted a video of Glenn Beck being labled as a neoCon, not Libertarian. Depending on what you think a libertarian is, either he is or isn't. His policy stances are far from Libertarian, but he calls himself one, that is about it. I can't find many issues he says he supports that makes him a libertarian and not a Karl Rove Republican.
People who stand on non-interventionalist principles don't start pre emptive wars. We understand the ramifications of doing what he calls for.
Dropping guided bombs from our best war planes onto the known Al-Queada camps and positions, along with a few thousand Special Forces to go out and round up the leaders, was all that should have happened after 9/11. No Patriot Act, no Iraq War, no torture, no wiretapping millions of Americans, no need to throw habeas corpus in the dumpster.
All Americans became more vigilant. We would never let a plane smash into a building without the hijackers having to fight off every able bodied person. But in guys like Glenn Becks mind, we needed to do everyone of those things because he was scared. He was so scared a terrorist would kill him that he was willing to toss the Constitution out the window. But now, when a new president wants to pass a healthcare bill he suddenly wants to hide behind the Constitution and act as if he gives a darn that politicians aren't following it. Well, I'm not jumping on that bandwagon.
Is Glenn Beck chaning his tune?
Saturday, September 19
Let me say definitively, NO. He also apparently has no clue as to what has been going on in Iraq for the last six years. He claims in this video that we should go into Afghanistan, hit them hard, show them who is boss and pull right on out to the ticker tape parades. He thinks they will be so scared they wouldn't dare mess with us again if we use Glenn Beck style warfare. Kind of like terrorizing them back.
I have a few questions for him on that. What does he think took place in Iraq since the invasion? Why do you think 4,662 men and women have died in Iraq? Why do you think we stayed after foreign fighters from around the middle east came to fight us and thousands of Iraqi locals took up arms? Why did we go into the cities and throughout the country hunting down people who were setting IED's against our vehicles and troops? Are you saying our Armed Forces went in half assed when they took down the Republican Guard? That is because we did not kick their heads in hard enough, we caused thousands of men from Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and all over the middle east to come fight us in Iraq? Do you think we really stayed for some experiment to see if we could try out nation building?
For him to suggest that his idea is not what happened to the T in Iraq makes me really wonder how closely he followed or understands the war in Iraq, the one he was so in favor of fighting. His solution to stop nation building, is to do what we did in Iraq, but instead of not listen to guys like him who told us that if we left, the whole middle east would collapse and be taken over by terroists.
HELLO GLENN BECK, we stayed for the reasons you claim to support. If you don't think it was for oil, democracy, WMD's or for middle east empire building, you have to think we were sending a message to the radicals in the middle east. Did I miss where we tossed flower grenades and shot people with confetti?
That is what Iraq has been about, sadly. We showed the muslim world we would stay, fight, take thousands of casualties, spend hundreds of billions of dollars, kill thousands of civilians and dang near destroy the country. Middle east who might have wanted to start something with America, could not believe this guy Bush. Lying about WMD, going in without United Nations, then suddenly say it was for democracy after the WMD did not show up. No, just going in fighting the army Saddam had, remember "bring it on", we were staying right there, taking the fight anyone who dared take up arms and alot of civilians in the way. So how has Beck changed his opinion again?
Let me explain something to Beck and to anyone who thinks he is somehow changing his foreign policy to something more reasonable or more libertarian.
We destroyed Saddams army fast and hard, sorry it was not hard enough for Glenn. We were about to turn the country over to the interim govt rounded up by the Coalition Provisional Authority. Just what Beck is advocating we do if we roll deep into Afghanistan. But guess what, the situation on the ground would not allow us to leave like he says he wants to do now in Afghanistan. They fought back, the enemy started to hit us with guerilla warfare. Setting IED's, firing rockets onto our camps and bombing religous sites to spark chaos. They started to fight and fight hard, using tactics that we were not prepared to deal with effectively. Remember Glenn, we have been at war here in Iraq for the last 5 years, fighting the guys who were not scared.
He is advocating another long drawn out Iraq war, plain and simple, only in Afghanistan. It is the neoCon class who want to make Afghanistan the next big fight. Beck is calling for exactly that in this video. A homegrown insurgent, guerilla warfare battle, against people who hate us for their own reasons. But if we went into Afghanistan full force, guns blazzing, 150k+ troops, with the intent of slaughtering any and all Al-Queada, then just march right on out with victory declared, we might have a worse situation, right? Was that not the rational feed to the people by Beck, and the entire Republican party during the 2008 election.
Glenn Beck does not know what he believes or thinks. He has no foreign policy principles other than what comes to his mind at that moment. I posted a video of Glenn Beck being labled as a neoCon, not Libertarian. Depending on what you think a libertarian is, either he is or isn't. His policy stances are far from Libertarian, but he calls himself one, that is about it. I can't find many issues he says he supports that makes him a libertarian and not a Karl Rove Republican.
People who stand on non-interventionalist principles don't start pre emptive wars. We understand the ramifications of doing what he calls for.
Dropping guided bombs from our best war planes onto the known Al-Queada camps and positions, along with a few thousand Special Forces to go out and round up the leaders, was all that should have happened after 9/11. No Patriot Act, no Iraq War, no torture, no wiretapping millions of Americans, no need to throw habeas corpus in the dumpster.
All Americans became more vigilant. We would never let a plane smash into a building without the hijackers having to fight off every able bodied person. But in guys like Glenn Becks mind, we needed to do everyone of those things because he was scared. He was so scared a terrorist would kill him that he was willing to toss the Constitution out the window. But now, when a new president wants to pass a healthcare bill he suddenly wants to hide behind the Constitution and act as if he gives a darn that politicians aren't following it. Well, I'm not jumping on that bandwagon.
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Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
Beck is only 44 years old?
I know he did some hard living in his day, but I thought he was in mid-50's.
I know he did some hard living in his day, but I thought he was in mid-50's.
pantherclub
Footballguy
On the surface thats what one would think that he is just a loon saying crazy things and nobody is listening to him. But what amazes us "lefties" is that in fact people are. Millions of them. Now what kind of mindset does a person have when they listen to him and actually believe some of the messed up stuff he says. It is so counter productive to politics today its not even funnier. What is even more infuriating to me is that he admits to making a lot of it up just to throw it out there. If you read the Time article he basically says this but yet his followers eat it up.The dude swears he just wants to save the country but it is hard to take him seriously since he is basically uneducated politically, spent his entire life in zany wacky FM morning shows and only appears to be this serious political talking head for the money. Thats all well and fine but dont blatantly like about things and rile up the knuckle draggers.Oh and he converted to Mormonism, you have to be bat #### crazy to actually convert to that religion.
E Street Brat
Footballguy
“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.”
perry147
Footballguy
I would like to address this. The type of person who would believe some of these things are the people who see steadfastness and stubbornness as two of the highest virtues someone can possess. And where might we find people like that I wonder - I wonder whom the GOP base consists of?
Red Eyed and Blue
Footballguy
I never heard of the guy until a few months ago. I still have never heard him speak or talk. Doesn't look like I'm missing anything, though.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
He moved to Fox News and started acting even more ridiculous.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Same here. I've seen his show a grand total of once, just to see what the fuss was about. I lasted 15 minutes. Maybe I just picked an unlucky day, but I don't think so. He seemed unwatchable to me.
perry147
Footballguy
That is not how it works today.Fox News wants him to be popular so they give him a show and have him as a guest on their own shows to promote him.Soon people start watching his show and presto he becomes relevant - or so they want you to think.Fox News is the king of promotion of a certain slanted view of the news, not just the reporting of the news.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
This. Suddenly he's the hottest thing in conservative politics and is drawing 3 million per night offering simple, black and white solutions to complex issues. That is very appealing to a large segment of Americans who don't delve deep into the details and believe that we just need more "common sense" solutions to our problems.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
There's a morbid curiosity factor as well. The guy cries on his show, kind of a lot.
Red Eyed and Blue
Footballguy
Wait, what? You mean he 'whines' on his show or do you literally mean this guy cries tears?
Chunky Soup
Footballguy
Both, actually.
Red Eyed and Blue
Footballguy
Why does he cry? I thought right wing whack jobs hated swishy little cry babies. What am I missing here?
Desert_Power
Footballguy
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perry147
Footballguy
Mostly about liberals ruining this country.Liberals are anyone who disagrees with his position and tell him the flawed thinking he is using.But his latest kick seems to be euthanasia, somehow this is linked with the Health Care Bill - but I have never seen the logic to explain the link, just the allegation asserting that they are.
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Red Eyed and Blue
Footballguy
Ahhhh, he's a 'Death Panelist'. Basically, he's a male Sarah Palin, only with less testosterone.
Parrothead
Footballguy
Seems like if he gets paid to do nothing but get liberal panties in a bunch, he's earning his $$.. personally, I watched part of a show once, and though he was a swarmy toolbag..
Red Eyed and Blue
Footballguy
Wow. That had all the sincerity of cubic zirconia ring. People with intelligence buy this?
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
He's a wacko, and he's quickly becoming one of (if not THE) leading voice of conservatives at a time in which there is a huge void in leadership. It frustrates liberals and conservatives with brains, but it also doesn't bode well for the future of conservatism to have such an extremist speaking on behalf of their ideals.
Red Eyed and Blue
Footballguy
I'm a liberal and didn't know anything about this guy until today. My panties aren't bunched. I just think less of the people that tune in and buy his garbage. I actually feel sorry for them.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Spanky267
Footballguy
Beck didnt "suddenly" jump on the scene. He was a local talk show host in Tampa until 2002. He went into syndication and has about 400 affiliate radio stations that broadcast his show. He did guest appearances on Hardball and Good Morning America prior to the launch of his TV show on Headline News. Like any of these guys on the right or the left there is alot of schtick in there shows. I've been listening to his show since 2000. I don;t like everything he has to say and I think that he could do a far better job of presenting his arguments than he does. But if you have half a brain you can take away some things from his shows and discard the rest. Anyone who believes every word their hear on radio or tv from any personality, without checking the info out for themselves, is a fool.
Glenn used to have some funny bits on his show. One of my favorites from his time as a local dj is this one.
Velveeta for Congress
The funny bits arent as prevalent as they used to be. I'd personally like him to ratchet down some of the rhetoric. There are legitimate concerns that alot of people have with the govt in general. Let's present those arguments.
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urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Quite the history -
jamny
Footballguy
Fennis
Footballguy
There's no difference between the morning zoo Glenn Beck and the Fox News Glenn Beck. It is all a gimmick.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
And he has all you fools talking about it.
Fennis
Footballguy
You got me. I admit I am fascinated that anyone would take Uncle Fester and the morning zoo crew on Y95 seriously. And buy his book!!! How crazy is that?
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Morning Zoo. 
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
don't forget about his books.
Gigantomachia
Footballguy
Oh, and the comedy tour. Don't forget about his stand-up gig.Lately he seems interested in herding "mothers." Beck
jamny
Footballguy
I still don't know what to think of Beck. I catch maybe one or two of his shows a week. He seems to bring up topics that should concern people on both sides of the aisle although his doom and gloom can be a bit too much at times. Gig brings up a recent studio audience group of women he had on recently and although I wasn't interested enough to watch it for more than 5 minutes it seemed like a good focus group with a cross section of opinions. He's planning on doing the same with an African American audience soon. What's wrong with that? Why is he drawing so much hate?
Yes, he's goofy. Yes, he leans right. But I really feel he's not malicious or targetting anything more than what he feels is wrong in the world in his opinion. He had a great conversation about Ahmadinejad and some recent comments about the 12th Imam that had me looking up and learning about it.
Knock him for his Morning Zoo? I guess we all started on top, eh? Radio (and TV) is a tough business to crack.
Yes, he's goofy. Yes, he leans right. But I really feel he's not malicious or targetting anything more than what he feels is wrong in the world in his opinion. He had a great conversation about Ahmadinejad and some recent comments about the 12th Imam that had me looking up and learning about it.
Knock him for his Morning Zoo? I guess we all started on top, eh? Radio (and TV) is a tough business to crack.
