GMA (i know) just announced Troy P. Out for season (1 Viewer)

[RTB1]

Bump up your Steelers Wr's. They will be losing a lot more often and should have to throw more.

...says the man who's team won zero games last year. Our cast off is the best defensive player you got now. Troy has missed games almost every year. I think the Steelers are fine. Tyrone Carter plays a lot. Timmons will be back. LeBeau has 10 days to prepare them for the Bears.in the next 5 weeks, we play Cincy, Detriot and Cleveland(along with Chi and SD). For some reason I think we'll be okay.

If you consider 2-3 over that stretch "okay", then I agree with you.

 

[Chaka]

I don't know if "playing dirty" is the best the best way to describe it, but the guy had a major face mask and late hit in a half of football. That might not be dirty, but that's a pretty aggressive pace for penalties. And yes, I have played football.

That said, he was the best player on the field last night before the injury and as a football fan I hope he's back soon.

There are no major or minor face mask penalties anymore. The incidental face mask penalty (5 yards) was eliminated last season, all face mask penalties are 15 yards now.

 

[thehornet]

I'm probably going to get flamed for this but I thought TP was playing borderline reckless last night. I actually said to my girlfriend that he was going to get hurt the way he was playing. I am not condoning a different style of play because thisis what makes him great, but he just looked possessed last night. Which is a good thing, I suppose.

 

[Mark Wimer]

heard on tv as I was waking up. that is a HUGE loss. But I'd like a better source than Good Morning America.

Others say sprain 3-6 that needs evaluation/MRI.

http://damox.com/pittsburgh-steelers/2009/...has-mcl-sprain/

Polamalu Has MCL Sprain

Troy Polamalu sprained his MCL in last night’s overtime win over the Titans. The injury typically keeps players on the sideline for 3-6 weeks. While this injury is not as serious as an ACL tear, further tests could determine it’s far worse than a simple MCL sprain and could sideline him for a significant part of this season. That’s all just speculation at this point, and while Polamalu will be missed on our defense, we did hold the Titans to just 10 points last night while playing over half the game without him.

i've scoured for any real info. I think GMA just misread the report, doesn't know that there are degrees of MCL sprains/tears??? For now I'd say 3-6 until MRI seems most likely, but there does seem to be a lot of "negative" buzz. Stay tuned.

Knee injuries take a while to properly diagnose - they won't know the severity of the sprain/tear until the MRI comes back. I've seen some players take injuries that look horrible, but because they are flexible enough no tear is incurred. I've seen other players "tweak" a knee running out of bound and then 2 days later it is announced they tore or partially tore their PCL or MCL - it really is difficult to make an accurate initial diagnosis on knees, is what I'm trying to say.We'll know more when the docs get a closer look under his skin through the MRI.

MW

 

[Godsbrother]

Knee injuries take a while to properly diagnose - they won't know the severity of the sprain/tear until the MRI comes back. I've seen some players take injuries that look horrible, but because they are flexible enough no tear is incurred. I've seen other players "tweak" a knee running out of bound and then 2 days later it is announced they tore or partially tore their PCL or MCL - it really is difficult to make an accurate initial diagnosis on knees, is what I'm trying to say.We'll know more when the docs get a closer look under his skin through the MRI. MW

Just not enough info to even speculate at this point.

 

[Penguin]

I'm probably going to get flamed for this but I thought TP was playing borderline reckless last night. I actually said to my girlfriend that he was going to get hurt the way he was playing. I am not condoning a different style of play because thisis what makes him great, but he just looked possessed last night. Which is a good thing, I suppose.

It definitely looked like he was being fueled off of what happened in week 16 last year. "Possessed" is a good way to describe the way he was playing.

 

[Aaronstory]

Dude was playing dirty last night.

 

[Addai's Adidas]

He was trying to grab the ball and run. He should have dove on it.

 

[Penguin]

Troy was absolutely playing dirty last night, and I have no horse in this race. Poor fella was whiny about CJ putting the ball in his general direction last year.

Come on now. The late hit penalty was marginal at best. Troy got to him as he was just going out of bounds. I don't see any way he could have stopped his momentum. I do not believe that should have been called.The interference penalty should have been offensive, not defensive.The face mask was legit, didn't look intentional but he got his hand in there and didn't/couldn't release fast enough. 15 yards was the right call there. But, it didn't look intentional. So, one legit unintentional penalty. One very marginal penalty and one very bad call. He was extremely jacked up last night and flying all over the place, but "dirty" isn't a word I would use to describe his play.Disclosure: Not a Steelers fan

 

[RudeDog]

I don't know if "playing dirty" is the best the best way to describe it, but the guy had a major face mask and late hit in a half of football. That might not be dirty, but that's a pretty aggressive pace for penalties. And yes, I have played football. That said, he was the best player on the field last night before the injury and as a football fan I hope he's back soon.

Watch the film. The late hit was a bad call-CJ wasn't out of bounds-Troy knocked him out of bounds with a clean hit. Watch the facemask-his hand got caught in the Titan's facemask-it was incidental. The pass interference was another horrible call. He wasn't playing dirty. If you go by the penalties without re-watching the tape, you might think that, but the tape doesn't lie.

 

[jbz]

I wouldn't say he was playing anymore "dirty" or reckless then how he normally plays. Dude is just an intense player and that style of play is what makes him great. He's a playmaker and in an effort to make a play, he got hurt. Most players dive on that ball or some even try to get away from it. But Polamalu tries to go in pick it up and run, just an unfortunate result happened next.

His late hit call was bogus IMO. Polamalu was sprinting full bore from the opposite side of the field trying to run down the fastest guy in the NFL. He's focused on the ball carrier, not where the sidelines are. When he takes off to get CJ out of bounds, both players are still in the field of play. Physics takes care of the rest. Both guys are flying down the sidelines at that point.

As for leading with his head? I didn't really see any blatant tackles of that nature. It's hard not to lead with your head, it protrudes out of your body

 

[Statcruncher]

Dude was playing dirty last night. He really hates the Titans. Bet he hates them more now, huh?

WTF? How was he playing dirty? He tackled one guy (Crumpler?) with a facemask, however if you watched it, his hand appeared to get caught in the facemask. After he threw the guy down, he grabbed at his hand like it hurt because of getting caught in the cage.Maybe you should think before you post ridiculous comments?

He was absolutely playing dirty last night you did not find it odd that everytime he tackled chris johnson he was going for his knees The hit on the sideline was horrible the guy was already going out of bounds weighing 195 lbs and troy feels a need to dive into this dudes knees you dont think taht was intentional?? you are delusional

It amazes me how wildly different people's opinions can be. I have no horse in this race and I tend to think Troy is over-hyped and over-rated. I saw no instances where he was cheap shotting people, his tackling method of launching himself at the thigh/knees in the open field is commonplace for secondary defenders all over the league. The facemask call was a good call as his hand slipped to the facemask. Intentional or not it's a penalty and was properly called. The flag when he hit the runner going OB was absolutely ridiculous. The runner was still in bounds and Troy properly finished the play. The referee that threw that flag screwed up and deserves a groin punch. As for the interception, simply awesome. You don't have to like TP, but if you are a fan of football you have to acknowledge and respect the skills he brings every time he steps on the field.

 

[Judge Smails]

Child please. Dirty? People are acting like the hit was 5 yards out of bounds or something. That was borderline - in many cases that would not have been called at all. One foot in, one foot out, second foot coming down out. I would have called it, but it was ticky tack and not dirty by any stretch. You don't have to arm tackle a guy around the shoulder pads. You can go low, which Troy P and every safety worth his salt does when flying to take down a running back. Now if he was head hunting defenseless receivers, that's a different story. But he doesn't. Football is a violent sport. Deal with it.

 

[pecorino]

i'm thrilled that the steelers won the game even though most impartial viewers would probably agree that refs favored the Titans, not the Steelers (or were at the very least balanced in their calls). go ahead and call all the penalties you want on the Black and Gold--at least the wins won't be perceived as "tarnished" a la Super Bowl XL.

 

[Copeman]

"Less than a day after their season-opening victory against the Tennessee Titans, the Steelers have not issued any more news on the injury to safety Troy Polamalu, who sprained his left knee late in the second quarter and did not return.

Polamalu sprained the medial collateral ligament in his knee and Coach Mike Tomlin's early diagnosis was it could be three to six weeks before the five-time Pro Bowl safety returns.

But Tomlin and team president Art Rooney II did not have any more information on the extent of the injury today and there may not be any update until Monday when the players return to practice following three days off.

Meantime, the Steelers have not made a roster moves to allow for Polamalu's absence, and probably won't."

link

 

[RenoHightower]

i'm thrilled that the steelers won the game even though most impartial viewers would probably agree that refs favored the Titans, not the Steelers (or were at the very least balanced in their calls). go ahead and call all the penalties you want on the Black and Gold--at least the wins won't be perceived as "tarnished" a la Super Bowl XL.

yeah, those 6 penalties on the steelers compared to the titans 5 really hurt them

 

[Godsbrother]

i'm thrilled that the steelers won the game even though most impartial viewers would probably agree that refs favored the Titans, not the Steelers (or were at the very least balanced in their calls). go ahead and call all the penalties you want on the Black and Gold--at least the wins won't be perceived as "tarnished" a la Super Bowl XL.

please stop. The refs don't favor anyone. Sometimes the calls go your way and sometimes they don't. The bottom line is that you have to find a way to win no matter what cards you are dealt.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

i'm thrilled that the steelers won the game even though most impartial viewers would probably agree that refs favored the Titans, not the Steelers (or were at the very least balanced in their calls). go ahead and call all the penalties you want on the Black and Gold--at least the wins won't be perceived as "tarnished" a la Super Bowl XL.

please stop. The refs don't favor anyone. Sometimes the calls go your way and sometimes they don't. The bottom line is that you have to find a way to win no matter what cards you are dealt.

Objectively speaking, that Super Bowl was less fun to watch because the important calls favored one team. I'm sorry, but that's the way it was for me and I'm definitely not alone. "Tarnished" is a fair word. I don't care about either team. I just wanted a great and well-officiated Super Bowl. We didn't get that.Regarding Troy, it was just one half of football and he was hyped to play. His interception was a thing of beauty. His penalties were penalties, but I'd call him over-enthusiastic. "Dirty" has a different connotation to me. That's a label a player gets over his career and I don't think it applies to him.

 

[Bayhawks]

I don't know if "playing dirty" is the best the best way to describe it, but the guy had a major face mask and late hit in a half of football. That might not be dirty, but that's a pretty aggressive pace for penalties. And yes, I have played football. That said, he was the best player on the field last night before the injury and as a football fan I hope he's back soon.

Watch the film. The late hit was a bad call-CJ wasn't out of bounds-Troy knocked him out of bounds with a clean hit. Watch the facemask-his hand got caught in the Titan's facemask-it was incidental. The pass interference was another horrible call. He wasn't playing dirty. If you go by the penalties without re-watching the tape, you might think that, but the tape doesn't lie.

How is it BS? Offer some insight, don't just be the idiot anti-steeler fan who thinks that there is some grand conspiracy to help them.To clarify-of the 3 penalties, the PI call was flat-out wrong, the late hit was questionable, AT BEST, but definitely not a dirty play, and the facemask was the right call, but wasn't a dirty play-his hand got caught in the facemask.As for those who say TP was going after guys' knees-this isn't flag football. If defensive players only tried to tackle ballcarriers above the waist, they wouldn't keep their jobs long.

 

[Godsbrother]

i'm thrilled that the steelers won the game even though most impartial viewers would probably agree that refs favored the Titans, not the Steelers (or were at the very least balanced in their calls). go ahead and call all the penalties you want on the Black and Gold--at least the wins won't be perceived as "tarnished" a la Super Bowl XL.

please stop. The refs don't favor anyone. Sometimes the calls go your way and sometimes they don't. The bottom line is that you have to find a way to win no matter what cards you are dealt.

Objectively speaking, that Super Bowl was less fun to watch because the important calls favored one team. I'm sorry, but that's the way it was for me and I'm definitely not alone. "Tarnished" is a fair word. I don't care about either team. I just wanted a great and well-officiated Super Bowl. We didn't get that.

We've gone over the calls in SB XL so many ties and I have no desire to go through them again. I am just sick of people blaming officials for losses (not just SB XL).The officials aren't out to get your team and the league doesn't tell them who they want to win. Do they make mistakes? Yes but the vast majority of calls they make are correct. In addition many calls that the fans or announcers think were bad are actually right according to the rule book and the way the officials have been told to interpret them.As I said in the ebb and flow of a game and season there are times when calls seemingly go against you and other times when they go for you. If you are going to watch football you just have to deal with it.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

This thread needs some mod intervention imo.

Change the title, first off, and delete it if the tool factor doesn't drop off.

 

[KGB]

It's funny how a hand is "stuck" in a facemask until he throws/slams that player down. Then its magically unstuck.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

i'm thrilled that the steelers won the game even though most impartial viewers would probably agree that refs favored the Titans, not the Steelers (or were at the very least balanced in their calls). go ahead and call all the penalties you want on the Black and Gold--at least the wins won't be perceived as "tarnished" a la Super Bowl XL.

please stop. The refs don't favor anyone. Sometimes the calls go your way and sometimes they don't. The bottom line is that you have to find a way to win no matter what cards you are dealt.

Objectively speaking, that Super Bowl was less fun to watch because the important calls favored one team. I'm sorry, but that's the way it was for me and I'm definitely not alone. "Tarnished" is a fair word. I don't care about either team. I just wanted a great and well-officiated Super Bowl. We didn't get that.

We've gone over the calls in SB XL so many ties and I have no desire to go through them again. I am just sick of people blaming officials for losses (not just SB XL).The officials aren't out to get your team and the league doesn't tell them who they want to win. Do they make mistakes? Yes but the vast majority of calls they make are correct. In addition many calls that the fans or announcers think were bad are actually right according to the rule book and the way the officials have been told to interpret them.As I said in the ebb and flow of a game and season there are times when calls seemingly go against you and other times when they go for you. If you are going to watch football you just have to deal with it.

That's great. I'm not talking about me or my team. I'm just telling you how I (and many, many objective fans) saw that particular game. On that night I don't agree with your claim that "the refs don't favor anyone." It was pretty obvious to non-partisan fans watching it at the party I attended.Regarding Troy, it seems like the "out for season" tag is premature. I also heard they're not planning any moves in the wake of his injury, so they either expect him back relatively soon or they don't know how severe it is yet. It would be a shame for a guy of that caliber to only play one half of one game this season. The Steelers played well without him, too.

 

[Mark Wimer]

Since we've got 2 Polamalu injury threads going, I'm closing this one and posting this link to the active one. Please try to keep that thread focussed on the injury news and not on the wrangling over "dirty/not dirty" and "love refs/hate refs"

Thanks.

MW