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Guess who's wife kept pestering him to open up their staircase and got everything ripped apart and everything appeared ok but when they went to move some electrical figured out they just cut out a bunch of supports for a load bearing wall

 
Dan Lambskin said:
Guess who's wife kept pestering him to open up their staircase and got everything ripped apart and everything appeared ok but when they went to move some electrical figured out they just cut out a bunch of supports for a load bearing wall
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Yikes. If you need any help on how to fix it, let me know.

 
Uruk-Hai said:
Yikes. If you need any help on how to fix it, let me know.
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Buddy helping me with it does this for a living so he said we can reinforce with LVL (of course lumber yard closed before we found out).  It's about a 9 foot span.  Unfortunately we didn't notice at first because we cut a small opening to confirm joist direction but when we cut bigger opening to move wires realized it was just a spacer block and joists ran the opposite direction 

Gonna lose like 6-8 inches of clearance which sucks but oh well

 
tommyboy said:
Could you use a 6x6 and then two more on either side as supporting posts? It'll cost a little more but you could leave the beams exposed and then stain them to have a nice wood accent to that space

Such as https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/7f/e1/4f/7fe14fc7b43cd1983024084ac6c77c8d.jpg
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No. He's right in putting LVLs up. A 6x6 horizontally won't carry ####. Plus it looks like his walls are 2x4s.

@Dan Lambskin if you know the span between your next closest bearing walls (I think the entrance to the bathroom might be one and wherever the one is behind the photographer), you can figure the depth of LVL beam you'd need. You'll want to get two and nail or bolt them together - won't matter since two will just make the beam the width of your studs anyway and you'll be about to use a shallower beam. I don't have my span tables anymore from when I used to design beams, but I'm sure I could find one on-line or maybe your friend who's a contractor has that information.

 
Uruk-Hai said:
No. He's right in putting LVLs up. A 6x6 horizontally won't carry ####. Plus it looks like his walls are 2x4s.

@Dan Lambskin if you know the span between your next closest bearing walls (I think the entrance to the bathroom might be one and wherever the one is behind the photographer), you can figure the depth of LVL beam you'd need. You'll want to get two and nail or bolt them together - won't matter since two will just make the beam the width of your studs anyway and you'll be about to use a shallower beam. I don't have my span tables anymore from when I used to design beams, but I'm sure I could find one on-line or maybe your friend who's a contractor has that information.
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Yeah he's gonna check all that for me and helpe get that part done

 
I'm betting two 9.25" deep beams sistered together will be more than enough. Make sure your buddy accounts for the point loads you now have on either end, too. You may have to double up on the joists below.

Oh, and don't let anyone tell you different: you'll want to add two studs on each side of your opening to sit the beam on. Do not just toenail it to the existing studs on either end. You'll lose some opening, but your floor won't sag.

Sorry if I sound all lecture-y. I've seen too many people #### this kind of stuff up. I'll lay out now, but PM me if you have any questions.

 
Uruk-Hai said:
I'm betting two 9.25" deep beams sistered together will be more than enough. Make sure your buddy accounts for the point loads you now have on either end, too. You may have to double up on the joists below.

Oh, and don't let anyone tell you different: you'll want to add two studs on each side of your opening to sit the beam on. Do not just toenail it to the existing studs on either end. You'll lose some opening, but your floor won't sag.

Sorry if I sound all lecture-y. I've seen too many people #### this kind of stuff up. I'll lay out now, but PM me if you have any questions.
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Thanks man

Yeah sounds exactly like what he said we'd need to do so that's reassuring that you both agree

Basement joists are triple for whatever reason so I think we should be good there

 
proninja said:
Rover is a great guy, but it's really impressive how you've only lived here a few years and already you've managed to have such serious drama in your Facebook hiking group. That's veteran Northwest stuff there. 
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Facebook group drama is just a BIT of an understatement ...I think I didn't tell you much or know enough when we talked.  Heading out tomorrow to help victim #1 get her restraining order.  Hopefully one of several.  Wish us luck.

 
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-fish- said:
NW peeps:  next Sunday is my birthday.  I've got roverkid.  Emerald Downs?
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Dammit dammit dammit!  I'm supposed to be at a wine & cheese fest on the peninsula.  

Hmmm, the fest is on Saturday, too.  Let me see if I can switch.

 
proninja said:
I'm back at the gym M/W/F mornings as of tomorrow. Tuesday? 
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Tuesday actually looks ideal, weather-wise.  Let's do Little Si.  Will take just slightly  longer because it's steep-flat-steep instead of a steady climb like Rattlesnek, but it's only 100-200 more in elevation gain so similar overall.  

You sandbagged me last time by saying you'd be slow, and you weren't, so still will be fine as a pre-work climb. :)

 
proninja said:
Ha. I'm the slowest I've ever been. 

And Tuesday I'll be coming off my first day at the gym in years. If the trainer goes after my legs, I'll be substantially slower. 
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Better meet at 6:30, then. ;)

Kidding.  Whenever you want.  

 
RedmondLonghorn said:
The framing was done weeks ago. The trades have taken some time. 

It turns out moving tons of plumbing fixtures and basically rewiring the whole house (something which we didn't exactly plan on doing, but just...happened) is a good sized project. 

And no. It isn't good news. But it is reality.
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See, GM was ahead of his time banning trades, too tedious.

 
Dan Lambskin said:
Uruk-Hai said:
I'm betting two 9.25" deep beams sistered together will be more than enough. Make sure your buddy accounts for the point loads you now have on either end, too. You may have to double up on the joists below.

Oh, and don't let anyone tell you different: you'll want to add two studs on each side of your opening to sit the beam on. Do not just toenail it to the existing studs on either end. You'll lose some opening, but your floor won't sag.

Sorry if I sound all lecture-y. I've seen too many people #### this kind of stuff up. I'll lay out now, but PM me if you have any questions.
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Thanks man

Yeah sounds exactly like what he said we'd need to do so that's reassuring that you both agree

Basement joists are triple for whatever reason so I think we should be good there
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let me know when you're done with all this boring stuff and need help selecting paint colors. 

 
DA RAIDERS said:
i just applied for a grant from the city i live in, to help with transportation costs for my daughter's class to go on a 3 day science camp.  something i have never done.  

i really hope i get it so i can tell the foundation chairwoman to go home with shelby.  she has done exactly jack #### in making this event happen.  i sent her a text regarding all of this and got zero response.  so lame.
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GO HOME CHAIRWOMAN!!!!

no wonder our government is broke.  i write a letter, they give me $1000.  pretty sweet though.  gonna have to rock the pimp walk at school like that little kid that burst in on bbc interview.

 
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krista4 said:
Tuesday actually looks ideal, weather-wise.  Let's do Little Si.  Will take just slightly  longer because it's steep-flat-steep instead of a steady climb like Rattlesnek, but it's only 100-200 more in elevation gain so similar overall.  

You sandbagged me last time by saying you'd be slow, and you weren't, so still will be fine as a pre-work climb. :)
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Currently hiking up every damn hill we can find around here to get ready for this: http://www.philmontscoutranch.org/filestore/philmont/camping/2017itinerary/Map/map_2017_19.jpg

Cincy guys: We took a practice hike up the steps at Mt. Adams with 30 pound packs a couple of weeks ago. Stared out at the bottom as a Presbyterian, ended up as a full-on Catholic. Now I know why they stop and pray at each step on Good Friday.

 
Rustoleum said:
Currently hiking up every damn hill we can find around here to get ready for this: http://www.philmontscoutranch.org/filestore/philmont/camping/2017itinerary/Map/map_2017_19.jpg

Cincy guys: We took a practice hike up the steps at Mt. Adams with 30 pound packs a couple of weeks ago. Stared out at the bottom as a Presbyterian, ended up as a full-on Catholic. Now I know why they stop and pray at each step on Good Friday.
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Nice!  That looks like a blast.  When are you doing it?

 
krista4 said:
Nice!  That looks like a blast.  When are you doing it?
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If you zoom in far enough between day 6 and 7 of that map, you can see where I plan to have my first coronary event.

Mid-July. We are flying into Denver the day before, then we'll find something to do to amuse ourselves for the day and acclimate to the altitude a little as we make our way to crash at my aunt and uncle's guest house near Trinidad, Colorado. They are only an hour and a half away from where we need to be for day 1 of our trek and it helps us keep the cost down for the scouts (and me, since I'm footing the bill for both my son and I).

We'll have a couple of weekend shakedown hikes in May and June to prepare.June will be Red River Gorge and should be a fine time too.

 
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