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Nice NYC day for me...

- 8am run with a friend.

- extended playground time with 8yo floppinha, highlighted by some quality tennis (no net) and her killing me in a game of round the world (basketball), followed up with running through the playground sprinkler.

- bike ride to some new public swings at pier 35 along the water with 12yo floppinho who goes to his first sleep away camp tomorrow for three weeks

- walk with both kids to Tompkins sq park (former anarchist shanty town when I first moved here) in the hood where there were punk bands playing, followed by crazy made and priced ice cream ("snowdays") , followed by meeting the previously anonymous ceramic mosaic artist who has made countless random public mosaics all over the hood my entire life in NYC, and who invited floppinha to help...so now every time we walk by too boots pizza, she'll know she is a part of it and the hood.

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Long-overdue Dave update

Dave is still at the rehab hospital in Indy and continues to make progress, although it's apparently too slow for the insurance company, which keeps basically threatening each week to boot him out and into a nursing home. Interestingly, when his wife asks for the specific criteria they look at, she can't get a straight answer (read: :moneybag: ).  One big discovery a couple of weeks back is that he had a detached retina in one eye and IIRC a blood clot in the other, leaving him legally (if not entirely) blind for the first 2 months of rehab.  Which could go a long way to explain some slow progress in terms of standing up and doing things that require some spatial awareness. Also the wide-eyed stare in the pictures.

Anyway, he had successful eye surgery last Thursday and I think they were expecting him to regain his vision in 5-ish days, which would be early this week.

His son has been really good about posting updates on their GoFundMe page.  I'm not asking for donations, but if you're interested in more details on his rehab/recovery progress, there's a lot more detail there than I can remember to type out here.

And quoting his son in the updates: Hug your loved ones. Tomorrow is not promised. #RoemerStrong

 
I've been upset all day.  A friend of mine slipped and fell off a mountain yesterday.  Dead.  No TPW necessary for me as we were just casual friends, but she's someone I greatly admired.  In addition to being an amazing hiker and climber, she was equally brilliant in her day job in the Physics department at University of Washington.  We have a mutual friend there who told me the University is as devastated as the hiking/climbing community.  

We're all just in complete shock and sorrow, but aside from that, here's what is freaking me out:  she was an extremely careful, safe hiker.  She climbed some very difficult peaks, but as carefully as anyone I've ever known.  And then she slipped on some scree on a traverse that is not terribly challenging or considered dangerous, and fell into a huge gulley.  Lots of people die in these mountains, but we can usually tell ourselves that they did something "wrong," something we would not do ourselves so that we can take solace that we are "safe."  But here's this reminder that none of us ever really is, because if Ann wasn't safe, then we aren't either.  

Actually if you do want to send TPW, keep her husband in mind.  He was there with her.  In fact, I'd noticed yesterday morning she had posted a gorgeous 360-summit pic with the "current situation" caption, and I was envying their latest adventure.  She was dead a few hours later.  I can't imagine what he's going through, especially leaving the mountains with her body left behind - SAR were going to try to get her out today but I haven't heard yet if they did.  So freaking horrible.

 
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krista4 said:
I've been upset all day.  A friend of mine slipped and fell off a mountain yesterday.  Dead.  No TPW necessary for me as we were just casual friends, but she's someone I greatly admired.  In addition to being an amazing hiker and climber, she was equally brilliant in her day job in the Physics department at University of Washington.  We have a mutual friend there who told me the University is as devastated as the hiking/climbing community.  

We're all just in complete shock and sorrow, but aside from that, here's what is freaking me out:  she was an extremely careful, safe hiker.  She climbed some very difficult peaks, but as carefully as anyone I've ever known.  And then she slipped on some scree on a traverse that is not terribly challenging or considered dangerous, and fell into a huge gulley.  Lots of people die in these mountains, but we can usually tell ourselves that they did something "wrong," something we would not do ourselves so that we can take solace that we are "safe."  But here's this reminder that none of us ever really is, because if Ann wasn't safe, then we aren't either.  

Actually if you do want to send TPW, keep her husband in mind.  He was there with her.  In fact, I'd noticed yesterday morning she had posted a gorgeous 360-summit pic with the "current situation" caption, and I was envying their latest adventure.  She was dead a few hours later.  I can't imagine what he's going through, especially leaving the mountains with her body left behind - SAR were going to try to get her out today but I haven't heard yet if they did.  So freaking horrible.
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That's just horrible. I can't even imagine.

Actually, I can just a bit. Every once in a while on our vacation we'd be at the edge of a canyon and I'd suddenly get the willies thinking about how easy it would be to place a foot wrong or slip on some loose dirt on the slickrock and go off the edge. Freaked me out a bit.

Horrible to hear of it actually happening to someone. And not that it makes it worse or better, but there's just something horrible/not fair that it's someone that knows what they're doing and who is being careful rather than one of the idiots all over the place doing stupid and dangerous stuff.

 
krista4 said:
I've been upset all day.  A friend of mine slipped and fell off a mountain yesterday.  Dead.  No TPW necessary for me as we were just casual friends, but she's someone I greatly admired.  In addition to being an amazing hiker and climber, she was equally brilliant in her day job in the Physics department at University of Washington.  We have a mutual friend there who told me the University is as devastated as the hiking/climbing community.  

We're all just in complete shock and sorrow, but aside from that, here's what is freaking me out:  she was an extremely careful, safe hiker.  She climbed some very difficult peaks, but as carefully as anyone I've ever known.  And then she slipped on some scree on a traverse that is not terribly challenging or considered dangerous, and fell into a huge gulley.  Lots of people die in these mountains, but we can usually tell ourselves that they did something "wrong," something we would not do ourselves so that we can take solace that we are "safe."  But here's this reminder that none of us ever really is, because if Ann wasn't safe, then we aren't either.  

Actually if you do want to send TPW, keep her husband in mind.  He was there with her.  In fact, I'd noticed yesterday morning she had posted a gorgeous 360-summit pic with the "current situation" caption, and I was envying their latest adventure.  She was dead a few hours later.  I can't imagine what he's going through, especially leaving the mountains with her body left behind - SAR were going to try to get her out today but I haven't heard yet if they did.  So freaking horrible.
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whoa.  sorry for all affected.  

 
Binky The Doormat said:
Went to the meeting - it was an overall parents/kids meeting about the debate camps available.  I didn't realize that U of Michigan had a number of different camps (3 weeks/4 weeks and the 7 week).  Anyway, we talked to the head coach and she said that she would prefer that our daughter went to the 7-week.  Apparently, her school is fairly well recognized for debate and has some strong connections with the people running the camp.  So she will be in with the juniors/seniors and is likely to have her ### handed to her for a while 😄.  They usually have 10-12 kids attend each year.  
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Parental brag - daughter got home Friday from the 7 week debate camp at University of Michigan.  She loved it - they had 9-10 kids from her school go.  Her debate partner went as well.  

She said the food was awful - there were not allowed to go to the good cafeteria for some reason (think it was not their "assigned" one) so they ate a lot of ramen from Amazon care packages.  She goes back to school week from tomorrow - not much of a summer, but she really liked it.  

They start travel debates in mid-September and go all the way through Spring almost every Thursday - Sunday.  This is crazy.  

 
Thanks, guys.  Grove, I know what you're saying.  I don't want anyone to die in the mountains, even if they're doing something stupid, but it seems particularly unfair to happen to someone who spent so much time mentoring and teaching others how to be safe outdoors.

Speaking of which, just saw this nice tribute to Ann.

 
krista4 said:
Thanks, guys.  Grove, I know what you're saying.  I don't want anyone to die in the mountains, even if they're doing something stupid, but it seems particularly unfair to happen to someone who spent so much time mentoring and teaching others how to be safe outdoors.

Speaking of which, just saw this nice tribute to Ann.
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So sorry to hear this Krista.  Just went through this recently with my inspector, beloved by all in our RE community when he had a freak paragliding accident in Turkey.

That was a very nice tribute.  Be careful out there 

 
krista4 said:
I've been upset all day.  A friend of mine slipped and fell off a mountain yesterday.  Dead.  No TPW necessary for me as we were just casual friends, but she's someone I greatly admired.  In addition to being an amazing hiker and climber, she was equally brilliant in her day job in the Physics department at University of Washington.  We have a mutual friend there who told me the University is as devastated as the hiking/climbing community.  

We're all just in complete shock and sorrow, but aside from that, here's what is freaking me out:  she was an extremely careful, safe hiker.  She climbed some very difficult peaks, but as carefully as anyone I've ever known.  And then she slipped on some scree on a traverse that is not terribly challenging or considered dangerous, and fell into a huge gulley.  Lots of people die in these mountains, but we can usually tell ourselves that they did something "wrong," something we would not do ourselves so that we can take solace that we are "safe."  But here's this reminder that none of us ever really is, because if Ann wasn't safe, then we aren't either.  

Actually if you do want to send TPW, keep her husband in mind.  He was there with her.  In fact, I'd noticed yesterday morning she had posted a gorgeous 360-summit pic with the "current situation" caption, and I was envying their latest adventure.  She was dead a few hours later.  I can't imagine what he's going through, especially leaving the mountains with her body left behind - SAR were going to try to get her out today but I haven't heard yet if they did.  So freaking horrible.
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well ####.

And I need you to keep close to sea level, okay?

 
Bucky86 said:
Well, I didn't die. I had to hit it with a pole to knock the nest down. I napalmed that ##### and found 8 confirmed KIA's and unknown number of terrorists in training.(larva)
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insexist

 
Bucky86 said:
I drank two margs with dinner. Now im gonna go stand on a 3 ft stool while on a balcony 15 feet up so I can spray poison at a wasps nest 12 feet above me. This is smart, right?
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tonight i went out in a serious lighting & thunderstorm with downpouring rain because the downspout on the northeast corner of my house was clogged shut and the water was pouring over the eaves, pooling up against the house.

we only have metal ladders

i did not get struck by lightning much to my kids disappointment  :mellow:

 
mr. furley said:
tonight i went out in a serious lighting & thunderstorm with downpouring rain because the downspout on the northeast corner of my house was clogged shut and the water was pouring over the eaves, pooling up against the house.

we only have metal ladders

i did not get struck by lightning much to my kids disappointment  :mellow:
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2 out of 3?

 
krista4 said:
I've been upset all day.  A friend of mine slipped and fell off a mountain yesterday.  Dead.  No TPW necessary for me as we were just casual friends, but she's someone I greatly admired.  In addition to being an amazing hiker and climber, she was equally brilliant in her day job in the Physics department at University of Washington.  We have a mutual friend there who told me the University is as devastated as the hiking/climbing community.  

We're all just in complete shock and sorrow, but aside from that, here's what is freaking me out:  she was an extremely careful, safe hiker.  She climbed some very difficult peaks, but as carefully as anyone I've ever known.  And then she slipped on some scree on a traverse that is not terribly challenging or considered dangerous, and fell into a huge gulley.  Lots of people die in these mountains, but we can usually tell ourselves that they did something "wrong," something we would not do ourselves so that we can take solace that we are "safe."  But here's this reminder that none of us ever really is, because if Ann wasn't safe, then we aren't either.  

Actually if you do want to send TPW, keep her husband in mind.  He was there with her.  In fact, I'd noticed yesterday morning she had posted a gorgeous 360-summit pic with the "current situation" caption, and I was envying their latest adventure.  She was dead a few hours later.  I can't imagine what he's going through, especially leaving the mountains with her body left behind - SAR were going to try to get her out today but I haven't heard yet if they did.  So freaking horrible.
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I am very sorry K. I understand. I have never had a friend die climbing, but I lost a few to motorcycle accidents. I felt similar to you afterward ... as some of those guys were way better riders than me ... and very careful. I sold me last bike in '16. 

I'm not advocating to quit climbing, but for me ... I had enough of the added risk. It was great fun tho.

Anyways, I wish the best for her family, her community and you.

 
Man of Constant Sorrow said:
I am very sorry K. I understand. I have never had a friend die climbing, but I lost a few to motorcycle accidents. I felt similar to you afterward ... as some of those guys were way better riders than me ... and very careful. I sold me last bike in '16. 

I'm not advocating to quit climbing, but for me ... I had enough of the added risk. It was great fun tho.

Anyways, I wish the best for her family, her community and you.
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my dad always said he wouldn't get out of an electric chair to get on a motorcycle.  

 
kevzilla said:
In the ER, they refer to the sportier models as donorcycles.
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County coroner visited our HS when I was a junior (one of those "scared straight" BS assemblies, etc).  He went on record that the ophthalmologists around the tri-state area LOVED motorcyclist, cuz they were an ever-replenishing resource of corneas/etc. to be harvested.  Apparently the helmets would preserves those peepers...but not much else.

 
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