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God Squatted and Took a Dump on the Bengals...Again. (2 Viewers)

The thing that baffles me is that I expected to see Bengals fans in a lather after that game calling for Burfict's and Jones' heads. Dalton was possibly coming back next week against a "gettable" New England team, the Chiefs would have been rolling into Denver against the corpse of Peyton Manning. The Bengals had a REAL chance of hosting an AFCC with a legit shot at their first Super Bowl appearance in decades. If I'm a Bengals fan, I want those two pilloried in the town square.

Now, maybe the fans that do feel this way aren't talking about it, but pretty much everything I've seen in these threads from the Cincy faithful is defending these guys, trying to spin blame on Joey Porter, etc. Bewildering.
Honestly, we're not that good without these 2. Everyone that watches them every week knows it. We know they're prone to stupid penalties, but give enough value to ignore it.Also, Burfict is around the city constantly. I've hung around him multiple times and everyone loves him off the field. Psychopath on the field, but it ends there. I think that's why locally he's viewed differently. Half of the people who ever go out in Cincy have a pic of them chilling with Burfict. Accessibility plays big here. I also think people distinguish between on the field problem vs off the field problem. Burfict is about the least likely guy on the whole roster to get arrested for example. Pacman... Not as much lol and he's taken more heat locally

That and McCarron's pretty terrible and most people think Dalton was done.
Has Burfict reached out to Antonio and apologized for costing him this playoff game? Has he apologized in general? To the Steelers? To his teammates? If he's just a fiery guy on the field but a nice guy off, these things would have been done already.

 
What I think is incredibly ironic is, had the fumble not happened, they would be preparing Burfict's and Jones' statues for out front of PBS.
Even more ironic: if the Steelers can somehow recover from their injuries and win the Super Bowl, those statutes may still be installed -- in front of Heinz Field.

 
The thing that baffles me is that I expected to see Bengals fans in a lather after that game calling for Burfict's and Jones' heads. Dalton was possibly coming back next week against a "gettable" New England team, the Chiefs would have been rolling into Denver against the corpse of Peyton Manning. The Bengals had a REAL chance of hosting an AFCC with a legit shot at their first Super Bowl appearance in decades. If I'm a Bengals fan, I want those two pilloried in the town square.

Now, maybe the fans that do feel this way aren't talking about it, but pretty much everything I've seen in these threads from the Cincy faithful is defending these guys, trying to spin blame on Joey Porter, etc. Bewildering.
I can help with this one.

For my entire life I've watched the Bengals get bullied -- usually because the Steelers were better, but also because the Steelers were willing to cross the line. Keith Gary swing roping from Kenny Anderson's facemask, Hines Ward repeatedly high, late, away from the ball (sometimes all three), Kimo van O putting a shoulder into Palmer's knee (weird it's the "Brady rule" and not the "Palmer" rule), Kevin Huber, and on and on and on -- those are just the ones I remember off the top of my head. And the net effect of all this was to put the Bengals one down before kick off.

So when, before a game with the Bengals, James Harrison says that he's going to have to start taking out guys knees since the league won't let him cheap shot guys high anymore and Reggie Nelson responds by going low on Heath Miller it's a break from the past. It's the Bengals refusing to be one down.

And when Burfict takes down Roethlisberger on a clean hit and Steelers' fans -- who've rooted for truly dirty players like Hines Ward, James Harrison and Joey Porter for years -- start whining about it, it's a bit much.

The Burfict hit on Brown was way over the line IMO, late and high -- completely Wardian. There's NO place for that in football and I have no issue with the fine or suspension. Though, again, it's interesting that Hines Ward was never suspended. And James Harrison (who is basically Burfict + Ray Rice) never got a 3-game ban.

But I'd much rather have the Bengals match the Steelers (and Ravens) with physical, tough, fear-inspiring play and have to learn how to dial it back in key moments than to keep getting bullied for another 40 years.

 
The thing that baffles me is that I expected to see Bengals fans in a lather after that game calling for Burfict's and Jones' heads. Dalton was possibly coming back next week against a "gettable" New England team, the Chiefs would have been rolling into Denver against the corpse of Peyton Manning. The Bengals had a REAL chance of hosting an AFCC with a legit shot at their first Super Bowl appearance in decades. If I'm a Bengals fan, I want those two pilloried in the town square.

Now, maybe the fans that do feel this way aren't talking about it, but pretty much everything I've seen in these threads from the Cincy faithful is defending these guys, trying to spin blame on Joey Porter, etc. Bewildering.
I can help with this one.

For my entire life I've watched the Bengals get bullied -- usually because the Steelers were better, but also because the Steelers were willing to cross the line. Keith Gary swing roping from Kenny Anderson's facemask, Hines Ward repeatedly high, late, away from the ball (sometimes all three), Kimo van O putting a shoulder into Palmer's knee (weird it's the "Brady rule" and not the "Palmer" rule), Kevin Huber, and on and on and on -- those are just the ones I remember off the top of my head. And the net effect of all this was to put the Bengals one down before kick off.

So when, before a game with the Bengals, James Harrison says that he's going to have to start taking out guys knees since the league won't let him cheap shot guys high anymore and Reggie Nelson responds by going low on Heath Miller it's a break from the past. It's the Bengals refusing to be one down.

And when Burfict takes down Roethlisberger on a clean hit and Steelers' fans -- who've rooted for truly dirty players like Hines Ward, James Harrison and Joey Porter for years -- start whining about it, it's a bit much.

The Burfict hit on Brown was way over the line IMO, late and high -- completely Wardian. There's NO place for that in football and I have no issue with the fine or suspension. Though, again, it's interesting that Hines Ward was never suspended. And James Harrison (who is basically Burfict + Ray Rice) never got a 3-game ban.

But I'd much rather have the Bengals match the Steelers (and Ravens) with physical, tough, fear-inspiring play and have to learn how to dial it back in key moments than to keep getting bullied for another 40 years.
What Ward used to do wasn't against the rules at the time. Harrison has been fined and suspended in the past.

I get not wanting to be pushed around, but ultimately the game is about winning and losing. I had no idea that Bengals fans has such a "little brother" complex but if shedding that is as or more important than finally winning a playoff game then you've done that. Not being facetious here, if that's what the Bengals fans wanted, the team has achieved it. I just know that if it had all happened in reverse and it was Harrison and Mitchell who'd thrown the game away, I'd be absolutely crucifying them here.

 
The thing that baffles me is that I expected to see Bengals fans in a lather after that game calling for Burfict's and Jones' heads. Dalton was possibly coming back next week against a "gettable" New England team, the Chiefs would have been rolling into Denver against the corpse of Peyton Manning. The Bengals had a REAL chance of hosting an AFCC with a legit shot at their first Super Bowl appearance in decades. If I'm a Bengals fan, I want those two pilloried in the town square.

Now, maybe the fans that do feel this way aren't talking about it, but pretty much everything I've seen in these threads from the Cincy faithful is defending these guys, trying to spin blame on Joey Porter, etc. Bewildering.
I can help with this one.

For my entire life I've watched the Bengals get bullied -- usually because the Steelers were better, but also because the Steelers were willing to cross the line. Keith Gary swing roping from Kenny Anderson's facemask, Hines Ward repeatedly high, late, away from the ball (sometimes all three), Kimo van O putting a shoulder into Palmer's knee (weird it's the "Brady rule" and not the "Palmer" rule), Kevin Huber, and on and on and on -- those are just the ones I remember off the top of my head. And the net effect of all this was to put the Bengals one down before kick off.

So when, before a game with the Bengals, James Harrison says that he's going to have to start taking out guys knees since the league won't let him cheap shot guys high anymore and Reggie Nelson responds by going low on Heath Miller it's a break from the past. It's the Bengals refusing to be one down.

And when Burfict takes down Roethlisberger on a clean hit and Steelers' fans -- who've rooted for truly dirty players like Hines Ward, James Harrison and Joey Porter for years -- start whining about it, it's a bit much.

The Burfict hit on Brown was way over the line IMO, late and high -- completely Wardian. There's NO place for that in football and I have no issue with the fine or suspension. Though, again, it's interesting that Hines Ward was never suspended. And James Harrison (who is basically Burfict + Ray Rice) never got a 3-game ban.

But I'd much rather have the Bengals match the Steelers (and Ravens) with physical, tough, fear-inspiring play and have to learn how to dial it back in key moments than to keep getting bullied for another 40 years.
I agree
 
And I also don't think anyone was whining about Roethlisberger getting hit, although it appears that Burfict, true to his nature, threw a little extra into it while Ben was on the ground. It's the fact that he attempted to injure Ben earlier in the year, crowed after knocking Bell out for the season (the same thing the Bengals fans accused Shazier of doing that supposedly incited the fans,) AND leveled the cheap shot on Brown. The guy clearly goes out there trying to injure rather than intimidate. There's no place in football for a guy like that, especially in this day and age, and no amount of pointing at other players and what they may or may not do obscures that fact.

 
Listen, Burfict has taken out Leveon, Antonio and to some extent Ben. Of course we think he's an ahole.

and the hit on Ben was perfectly legit and one he could have avoided. I think the extracurricular knee to the shoulder while he was laying prone was dirty, and I imagine every football fan in the land would agree if it was their QB. Could you imagine if he did that to Brady? The whole rule book would have to be re-written.

 
Listen, Burfict has taken out Leveon, Antonio and to some extent Ben. Of course we think he's an ahole.

and the hit on Ben was perfectly legit and one he could have avoided. I think the extracurricular knee to the shoulder while he was laying prone was dirty, and I imagine every football fan in the land would agree if it was their QB. Could you imagine if he did that to Brady? The whole rule book would have to be re-written.
I agree.

 
What was with the Cincy fans throwing things at Rothlisberger? Why? What did he do? I used to think Phily and Seattle fans were the lowest class in the NFL...but congrats to Cincy. You win.

 
What was with the Cincy fans throwing things at Rothlisberger? Why? What did he do? I used to think Phily and Seattle fans were the lowest class in the NFL...but congrats to Cincy. You win.
It is an Ohio thing.
Having faced Ohio State in the Rose Bowl and then the Championship game, my experience with Ohio fans was very positive. Classy, nice, engaging. All my iBuddies who live in Ohio are top notch. So I'm surprised by this behavior from Cincy. Throwing beer cans at an injured player who did nothing to deserve it just boggles my mind.

 
What was with the Cincy fans throwing things at Rothlisberger? Why? What did he do? I used to think Phily and Seattle fans were the lowest class in the NFL...but congrats to Cincy. You win.
It is an Ohio thing.
Having faced Ohio State in the Rose Bowl and then the Championship game, my experience with Ohio fans was very positive. Classy, nice, engaging. All my iBuddies who live in Ohio are top notch. So I'm surprised by this behavior from Cincy. Throwing beer cans at an injured player who did nothing to deserve it just boggles my mind.
There was also a beer bottle throwing incident in Cleveland in 2000 (or was it 2001 or 2002?) late in the season. The opponent may have been Jacksonville. There was also the time in the 1988 playoffs when Sam Wyche grabbed the microphone and told Bengals fans, "...You don't live in Cleveland..." If I recall correctly, it was a reference to some game or games in Cleveland were stuff was thrown onto the field.Of course, it may be a few bad seeds making each of the two fanbases look bad.

 
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The thing that baffles me is that I expected to see Bengals fans in a lather after that game calling for Burfict's and Jones' heads. Dalton was possibly coming back next week against a "gettable" New England team, the Chiefs would have been rolling into Denver against the corpse of Peyton Manning. The Bengals had a REAL chance of hosting an AFCC with a legit shot at their first Super Bowl appearance in decades. If I'm a Bengals fan, I want those two pilloried in the town square.

Now, maybe the fans that do feel this way aren't talking about it, but pretty much everything I've seen in these threads from the Cincy faithful is defending these guys, trying to spin blame on Joey Porter, etc. Bewildering.
I can help with this one.

For my entire life I've watched the Bengals get bullied -- usually because the Steelers were better, but also because the Steelers were willing to cross the line. Keith Gary swing roping from Kenny Anderson's facemask, Hines Ward repeatedly high, late, away from the ball (sometimes all three), Kimo van O putting a shoulder into Palmer's knee (weird it's the "Brady rule" and not the "Palmer" rule), Kevin Huber, and on and on and on -- those are just the ones I remember off the top of my head. And the net effect of all this was to put the Bengals one down before kick off.

So when, before a game with the Bengals, James Harrison says that he's going to have to start taking out guys knees since the league won't let him cheap shot guys high anymore and Reggie Nelson responds by going low on Heath Miller it's a break from the past. It's the Bengals refusing to be one down.

And when Burfict takes down Roethlisberger on a clean hit and Steelers' fans -- who've rooted for truly dirty players like Hines Ward, James Harrison and Joey Porter for years -- start whining about it, it's a bit much.

The Burfict hit on Brown was way over the line IMO, late and high -- completely Wardian. There's NO place for that in football and I have no issue with the fine or suspension. Though, again, it's interesting that Hines Ward was never suspended. And James Harrison (who is basically Burfict + Ray Rice) never got a 3-game ban.

But I'd much rather have the Bengals match the Steelers (and Ravens) with physical, tough, fear-inspiring play and have to learn how to dial it back in key moments than to keep getting bullied for another 40 years.
Nailed it.
 
The thing that baffles me is that I expected to see Bengals fans in a lather after that game calling for Burfict's and Jones' heads. Dalton was possibly coming back next week against a "gettable" New England team, the Chiefs would have been rolling into Denver against the corpse of Peyton Manning. The Bengals had a REAL chance of hosting an AFCC with a legit shot at their first Super Bowl appearance in decades. If I'm a Bengals fan, I want those two pilloried in the town square.

Now, maybe the fans that do feel this way aren't talking about it, but pretty much everything I've seen in these threads from the Cincy faithful is defending these guys, trying to spin blame on Joey Porter, etc. Bewildering.
I can help with this one.

For my entire life I've watched the Bengals get bullied -- usually because the Steelers were better, but also because the Steelers were willing to cross the line. Keith Gary swing roping from Kenny Anderson's facemask, Hines Ward repeatedly high, late, away from the ball (sometimes all three), Kimo van O putting a shoulder into Palmer's knee (weird it's the "Brady rule" and not the "Palmer" rule), Kevin Huber, and on and on and on -- those are just the ones I remember off the top of my head. And the net effect of all this was to put the Bengals one down before kick off.

So when, before a game with the Bengals, James Harrison says that he's going to have to start taking out guys knees since the league won't let him cheap shot guys high anymore and Reggie Nelson responds by going low on Heath Miller it's a break from the past. It's the Bengals refusing to be one down.

And when Burfict takes down Roethlisberger on a clean hit and Steelers' fans -- who've rooted for truly dirty players like Hines Ward, James Harrison and Joey Porter for years -- start whining about it, it's a bit much.

The Burfict hit on Brown was way over the line IMO, late and high -- completely Wardian. There's NO place for that in football and I have no issue with the fine or suspension. Though, again, it's interesting that Hines Ward was never suspended. And James Harrison (who is basically Burfict + Ray Rice) never got a 3-game ban.

But I'd much rather have the Bengals match the Steelers (and Ravens) with physical, tough, fear-inspiring play and have to learn how to dial it back in key moments than to keep getting bullied for another 40 years.
Nailed it.
You can't put Harrison and Burfict in the same league. Harrison was the NFL's poster child for "illegal" hits, and Burfict already has more personal fouls than Harrison in FAR fewer years of playing. Burfict didn't get that suspension because of that hit. He got it because of that hit, and intentionally pulling on Greg Olsen's already sprained ankle, and leveling Maxx Williams on a cheap shot away from the ball the week before etc. Harrison was/is a guy that hit people really, really hard as often as he could. He hit high because he was allowed to, and most players say they'd much rather be hit high than low. When he said he'll have to hit low because the league won't let him hit high, it's the truth, and TONS of other defensive players said the same thing.

Joey Porter was a trash talker, but never a dirty player. Hines Ward was a great blocker and definitely took some cheap shots at people. But again, crack back blocks weren't illegal at the time like they are now.

Burfict is a guy who actually tries to injure people, and he's been caught doing it on tape. There's a reason a 1st round talent like him went undrafted.

Kimo's hit at the time on Palmer's knee wasn't dirty or illegal at the time. It was unfortunate for him, but he was blocked, knocked down, and trying to get to the QB. With rules today, sure, it would've been a big penalty, but the game was different then and every defensive linemen everywhere played that way. They did whatever they could to get to the QB.

 
I need some math help.

Bengals players were trolling the Steelers on twitter after they lost yesterday.

Does not compute

 
What was with the Cincy fans throwing things at Rothlisberger? Why? What did he do? I used to think Phily and Seattle fans were the lowest class in the NFL...but congrats to Cincy. You win.
It is an Ohio thing.
Having faced Ohio State in the Rose Bowl and then the Championship game, my experience with Ohio fans was very positive. Classy, nice, engaging. All my iBuddies who live in Ohio are top notch. So I'm surprised by this behavior from Cincy. Throwing beer cans at an injured player who did nothing to deserve it just boggles my mind.
It's an NFL thing. People with tact stay in their warm home with their huge TV and don't get raging drunk in 5 degree weather on a Sunday. I'm sorry if that sounds soft but watching the videos of Buffalo fans this year that is how I see most NFL stadiums being like. Who needs it? Fans getting stabbed, fighting, getting blown in the upper decks, setting themselves on fire.... Especially if you have kids. I'd rather go to a baseball game.
 

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