Going Forward (Torain, Bush, Tolbert, Bell) (1 Viewer)

[shortbow]

What do you guys think of these guys?

Torain - I know next to nothing about almost every skins player, sounds like Portis will be out for 5-6 weeks though if not longer

Bush - McFadden has always struggled to stay consistent and is now injured again

Tolbert - Performing well above anyone's expectations Mathews is coming back

Bell - Havent heard any timetable for McCoy's return, I would imagine it would take 5-9 weeks to heal, Bell has performed ok in the past, Kolb gonna be in for at least this week probably 2 weeks though.

So going forward who do you guys think will be more successful this year or longer?

 

[simmonjm]

What do you guys think of these guys?Torain - I know next to nothing about almost every skins player, sounds like Portis will be out for 5-6 weeks though if not longerBush - McFadden has always struggled to stay consistent and is now injured againTolbert - Performing well above anyone's expectations Mathews is coming backBell - Havent heard any timetable for McCoy's return, I would imagine it would take 5-9 weeks to heal, Bell has performed ok in the pastSo going forward who do you guys think will be more successful this year or longer?

Tough to sayTorian- will get most playing timeBush/Tolbert- goal line backs remains to be seen how many touches they get in timeshareBell- 1 -3 week filler goes back to being unstartable once McCoy healthy

 

[tdhartis]

Torain- Portis out 4-6 weeks, maybe longer. If Torain performs, and barring staying healthy, I believe he will keep the lion's share even if Portis returns. Even some rumors being thrown around that Portis could land himself on the IR.

Bush- The talent is there to be the every down back for Oakland. Was slated to be the starter this year, but DMac was given his chance while he was out with injury. Without the sudden emergence of McFadden, Bush would have gotten the starting role back by now. Darren gets hurt frequently, so I can see Bush thriving this year as long as he performs. I don't think a time table has been given on the hamstring issue.

Tolbert- Obviously more of a FB but has performed well above expectations. Not as high on him as others, I think his role will still exist but be greatly diminished the healthier that Matthews gets. Definitely GL vulture McGahee-esque.

Bell- Reid was quoted as saying there's "a pretty good chance" McCoy will play this week. That being said, even if he doesn't play I see Bell only as a bye week filler this week alone, and no substantial value down the road. Not to mention he has been unimpressive as of late.

 

[shortbow]

Bell- Reid was quoted as saying there's "a pretty good chance" McCoy will play this week. That being said, even if he doesn't play I see Bell only as a bye week filler this week alone, and no substantial value down the road. Not to mention he has been unimpressive as of late.

Wow ive never heard of someone recovering so quickly from broken rib, at RB that is.

 

[Joe Summer]

Bell- Reid was quoted as saying there's "a pretty good chance" McCoy will play this week. That being said, even if he doesn't play I see Bell only as a bye week filler this week alone, and no substantial value down the road. Not to mention he has been unimpressive as of late.

Wow ive never heard of someone recovering so quickly from broken rib, at RB that is.

Willis McGahee broke 3 ribs in 2006 and missed 2 games.

 

[tdhartis]

http://www.fantasysp.com/player/nfl/LeSean_McCoy/1212398

 

[shortbow]

Bell- Reid was quoted as saying there's "a pretty good chance" McCoy will play this week. That being said, even if he doesn't play I see Bell only as a bye week filler this week alone, and no substantial value down the road. Not to mention he has been unimpressive as of late.

Wow ive never heard of someone recovering so quickly from broken rib, at RB that is.

Willis McGahee broke 3 ribs in 2006 and missed 2 games.

Impressed

http://www.fantasysp.com/player/nfl/LeSean_McCoy/1212398

Thanks,Anyone know what Bush's role will be in Oakland if McFadden seemingly doesnt slow down?

 

[Ping Pong]

Anyone know what Bush's role will be in Oakland if McFadden seemingly doesnt slow down?

When both were healthy in week 4, it seemed that McFadden got more touches, but Bush got the goalline work. It's a small sample size, and a lot could change depending on how long McFadden's out and how Bush does in the meantime. Bush was the superior runner last year, and I'd say there's a 50/50 chance that he retakes the "most valuable OAK RB" crown. His floor is probably 8-10 touches/game with goal line carries, and his ceiling is probably 15-16 touches/game with goal line carries (unless McFadden gets hurt again).

 

[Air Stich]

Bush will see his role increased regardless of how healthy McFadden gets. DMC had 83 touches in the first three games, which would project to 442 for the season. Unless you think Oakland is going to ride McFadden like Larry Johnson in his prime, his touches are going to come way down.

With the hamstring issues, I don't think the Raiders will give him more than 20 touches a game from here on, which leaves plenty of opportunity for M. Bush to be relevant. Right now the Raiders are running 31 times a game. I could see the split going right down the middle with Bush getting more GL carries and DMC getting more catches.

This is all assuming DMC gets healthy. He's now injured both of his hamstrings this year. What are the odds that he reinjures one of them at some point later in the season? Significantly higher than your average RB.

 

[CrossEyed]

Bush will see his role increased regardless of how healthy McFadden gets. DMC had 83 touches in the first three games, which would project to 442 for the season. Unless you think Oakland is going to ride McFadden like Larry Johnson in his prime, his touches are going to come way down. With the hamstring issues, I don't think the Raiders will give him more than 20 touches a game from here on, which leaves plenty of opportunity for M. Bush to be relevant. Right now the Raiders are running 31 times a game. I could see the split going right down the middle with Bush getting more GL carries and DMC getting more catches. This is all assuming DMC gets healthy. He's now injured both of his hamstrings this year. What are the odds that he reinjures one of them at some point later in the season? Significantly higher than your average RB.

Do you like Bush as a long term (redraft) RB2 or flex better than Blount down in TB?

 

[menobrown]

Anyone know what Bush's role will be in Oakland if McFadden seemingly doesnt slow down?

When both were healthy in week 4, it seemed that McFadden got more touches, but Bush got the goalline work. It's a small sample size, and a lot could change depending on how long McFadden's out and how Bush does in the meantime. Bush was the superior runner last year, and I'd say there's a 50/50 chance that he retakes the "most valuable OAK RB" crown. His floor is probably 8-10 touches/game with goal line carries, and his ceiling is probably 15-16 touches/game with goal line carries (unless McFadden gets hurt again).

I saw Mcfadden getting goal line work in that game as well.

Mcfadden put a choke hold on this job. When he comes back he's the man. Al loves speed and he's the one they used the #4 overall pick on. They've been dying for him to claim the job for years and now he's done it. Bush is going to be extremely valuable while Mcfadden is out and probably post decent numbers but when Mcfadden returns I expect Bush to be used in a complimentary role with the offense featuring DMAC.

 

[Dizzy]

Torain will have the best chance to do some real damage here. And if he learns to pass protect, there may even be whispers of "feature back" down the stretch.

I see the other three as purely back-up roles (assuming the starters they are currently replacing come back healthy).