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BustedKnuckles

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NFL | Goodell says league will look into playing Super Bowl in London

Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:10:40 -0700

The Associated Press reports NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said the league will look into playing a future Super Bowl in London. "There's a great deal of interest in holding a Super Bowl in London. So we'll be looking at that," Goodell said Monday, Oct. 15. Goodell said London's new Wembley Stadium would make a great candidate to host a Super Bowl.

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BustedKnuckles said:
NFL | Goodell says league will look into playing Super Bowl in LondonMon, 15 Oct 2007 20:10:40 -0700The Associated Press reports NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said the league will look into playing a future Super Bowl in London. "There's a great deal of interest in holding a Super Bowl in London. So we'll be looking at that," Goodell said Monday, Oct. 15. Goodell said London's new Wembley Stadium would make a great candidate to host a Super Bowl. :thumbdown:
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If that happens Goodell should be hung by his nuts.
 
Why reward freaking England with a Super Bowl? Germany supports football a lot more, it wouls still be a terrible idea though.

 
I think it would be fun to go to London to watch a SuperBowl (even in a pub). 99.9% of us do not even go to the Super Bowl, so would it really matter much where it is held?

 
Super isn't about football as it is, so why is everyone so up in arms? It's not much more $$ to get to London as it is accross the U.S. to freakin Jacksonville or something.

 
It's just wrong, whether you go to the game or not. This is AMERICAN football. It's an American game. The biggest game of the year HAS to be played in AMERICA.

It may have international interest, but this is not the freaking olympics. We place it in London, then who tries to get it next? Mexico City, Paris, Berlin? On and on. It'll get to where the game is only held in America every other year. Freak that!

 
that better not happen, England laughs at American football with the pads and all. They like bloody rugby

 
Will you still watch the SB if its in London? Of course.

Will millions more take an interest in the game because its on their home turf. Of course.

Goodell is making the right decision for the NFL, even if it slightly screws us American fans.

 
To maximize TV revenue, the game has to take place in US prime time. Local kickoff time in London would have to be 11PM or thereabouts.

 
BustedKnuckles said:
Sweet Love said:
I think it would be fun to go to London to watch a SuperBowl (even in a pub). 99.9% of us do not even go to the Super Bowl, so would it really matter much where it is held?
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I can`t imagine that the english would have the same passion at the game that we do :thumbup:
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I think the game happening there this year will be a good barometer (is it Fins vs. Giants?) as to whether the passion is there. If not, i KNOW there will be a lot of US folks willing to go over there for a nice vacation.
 
Does the NFL count on state and local tax dollars for stadium building? YES. Take the 10's of millions of dollars that american cities fight tooth and nail for over seas? there would be backlash for the NFL.

$2.75 million dollars for a 30 second commercial? Not at 1100 PM on a Sunday night. It would have to kickoff at 1000 am in london for a 5 PM EST televison.

It is and always be about $$$$$$$$. If the owners think it will cost the league money in TV revenue, it doesn't happen. There are 32 guys who own these teams, those 32 will do what is right for their bank accounts, nothing more, nothing less.

Why hasn't someone moved to LA? Because the other 31 want the 700,000,000 to 1 billion dollars that they will charge for an expansion team someday.

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!!

 
The "interest" may not be from the NFL itself.

The "great deal" could be from any number of different sources that are respected by, and connected to, the NFL.

Thus a token look into the situation is smart business and approriate.

Its hype. Dont buy into it.

 
Football is and always will be a US sport. I understand why they want to market it outside the US but it will never work.

 
Unless, by some miracle, my Bills were in the Super Bowl, I wouldn't watch it if it was in England.

I don't understand why the NFL really seems to believe that they can gain a foothold in other countries. Europe couldn't even sustain NFLE, why should the NFL send over the most important game? They'd be seriously risking upsetting their most important fans to take a pathetic stab at gaining a foothold where the people have already shown that they don't have a serious interest in the NFL.

 
Kickoff would have to be around Midnight London time in order to be Prime Tme in the USA right??

Can just see the announcers now.. "Welcome America, Kick-off is t-minus 3 hours and it is 10pm. :thumbdown:

 
Loan Sharks said:
Never happen.
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I agree.Let them bring their top soccer match over here to be played from the Premier Division and see if they want the Super Bowl then. Something tells me there will be a lot less interest if that were the case.I think Goodell's been good for the league so far but this idea is horrible. I don't mind tossing around preseason games but you don't send our biggest game in all of sports to another country.I'm actually flabbergasted that it's even an idea, it's almost like blasphemy.
 
Koya said:
Super isn't about football as it is, so why is everyone so up in arms? It's not much more $$ to get to London as it is accross the U.S. to freakin Jacksonville or something.
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It would cost me a lot more to get to London than Jacksonville.
 
mcjc4 said:
It would have to kickoff at 1000 am in london for a 5 PM EST televison.
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No, England is ahead. It would be 10:00 PM.I would, however, be thrilled if they made it a 7 PM local kickoff and put the game on at 2 PM ET in the States. Would make getting to work on Monday a lot easier.
 
Banger said:
Football is and always will be a US sport. I understand why they want to market it outside the US but it will never work.
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This is a shortsighted opinion. 100 years ago the three most popular sports in the US were Baseball, Horseracing, and Boxing. All things change with time and the NFL would be foolish to ignore the larger world, which already has shown strong support for Ruby, and Australian Rules Football. John Grishams new book is all about the local Italian football league which stunned him while he was over there. There’s too much physical talent overseas not to test the waters. NFL-E wasn't embraced for the same reasons soccors still trying to gain a foothold here. Inferior product. Great athletes are fun to watch no matter the game, and medicore athletes can get boring quick without some invested reason to cheer for them.
 
kevinray said:
Banger said:
Football is and always will be a US sport. I understand why they want to market it outside the US but it will never work.
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This is a shortsighted opinion. 100 years ago the three most popular sports in the US were Baseball, Horseracing, and Boxing. All things change with time and the NFL would be foolish to ignore the larger world, which already has shown strong support for Ruby, and Australian Rules Football. John Grishams new book is all about the local Italian football league which stunned him while he was over there. There’s too much physical talent overseas not to test the waters. NFL-E wasn't embraced for the same reasons soccors still trying to gain a foothold here. Inferior product. Great athletes are fun to watch no matter the game, and medicore athletes can get boring quick without some invested reason to cheer for them.
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Will playing the Super Bowl game in London really help popularize the sport in Europe? Maybe a little but until you actually establish real NFL teams over there Europeans are not going to start following the NFL and buying merchandise.My suggestion would be for each NFL team to adopt a Sister City in the world and play 2 games there each year: one preseason game and one regular season game. That would establish a connection between the people and the team. In any case the LAST thing I would do would be move the Super Bowl out of America. The Super Bowl is the biggest sporting event -- keep it in the States.
 
kevinray said:
Banger said:
Football is and always will be a US sport. I understand why they want to market it outside the US but it will never work.
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This is a shortsighted opinion. 100 years ago the three most popular sports in the US were Baseball, Horseracing, and Boxing. All things change with time and the NFL would be foolish to ignore the larger world, which already has shown strong support for Ruby, and Australian Rules Football. John Grishams new book is all about the local Italian football league which stunned him while he was over there. There’s too much physical talent overseas not to test the waters. NFL-E wasn't embraced for the same reasons soccors still trying to gain a foothold here. Inferior product. Great athletes are fun to watch no matter the game, and medicore athletes can get boring quick without some invested reason to cheer for them.
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It's not really short sighted, it's reality. Playing a game in a different location isn't somehow going to popularize the sport. Just like if they played the world cricket championships in New York. Yeah I might watch the game but I'm not going to run out and get a cricket bat and some wickets....They tried to do it the right way which is to create a league and somehow engrain the culture into the sport but that failed fairly miserably.
 
Godsbrother said:
kevinray said:
Banger said:
Football is and always will be a US sport. I understand why they want to market it outside the US but it will never work.
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This is a shortsighted opinion. 100 years ago the three most popular sports in the US were Baseball, Horseracing, and Boxing. All things change with time and the NFL would be foolish to ignore the larger world, which already has shown strong support for Ruby, and Australian Rules Football. John Grishams new book is all about the local Italian football league which stunned him while he was over there. There's too much physical talent overseas not to test the waters. NFL-E wasn't embraced for the same reasons soccors still trying to gain a foothold here. Inferior product. Great athletes are fun to watch no matter the game, and medicore athletes can get boring quick without some invested reason to cheer for them.
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Will playing the Super Bowl game in London really help popularize the sport in Europe? Maybe a little but until you actually establish real NFL teams over there Europeans are not going to start following the NFL and buying merchandise.My suggestion would be for each NFL team to adopt a Sister City in the world and play 2 games there each year: one preseason game and one regular season game. That would establish a connection between the people and the team. In any case the LAST thing I would do would be move the Super Bowl out of America. The Super Bowl is the biggest sporting event -- keep it in the States.
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The super bowls a step towards the larger goal and in reality it's the least disruptive thing he can do. Playing regular season games are far worse on players and fans and cause more special planning for the schedule. The teams won't be affected and the fans who want to go to the game and have been going to games can still get there. In fact playing a super bowl in London my be an easier ticket to get since they can put on extra 30000 in the stadium then most NFL teams can. This would only change the time slot at most. At the moment the goal is not to have some international league since that's logistically impossible and would damage the league in the states, but to increase interest in Europe and grow NFL sponsored clubs and talent in Europe instead of sending our guys over there. Even un-NFL sponsored clubs would benefit our sport because then when they produce good players we can steal them much like the NHL does to the Russian super league now. I think Goodells on track with the gains out weighing the losses. In the end we play one game that most Americans still interested in going can get to, and move the time slot a few hours earlier. This isn't like a permanent move either its one super bowl and if it works probably only one in every 10 years. Not that big a deal. That said it won't happen any time soon.
 
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Evilgrin 72 said:
mcjc4 said:
It would have to kickoff at 1000 am in london for a 5 PM EST televison.
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No, England is ahead. It would be 10:00 PM.I would, however, be thrilled if they made it a 7 PM local kickoff and put the game on at 2 PM ET in the States. Would make getting to work on Monday a lot easier.
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Yeah, but there's no way they don't have the Superbowl in primetime right?
 
Banger said:
kevinray said:
Banger said:
Football is and always will be a US sport. I understand why they want to market it outside the US but it will never work.
Click to expand...
This is a shortsighted opinion. 100 years ago the three most popular sports in the US were Baseball, Horseracing, and Boxing. All things change with time and the NFL would be foolish to ignore the larger world, which already has shown strong support for Ruby, and Australian Rules Football. John Grishams new book is all about the local Italian football league which stunned him while he was over there. There’s too much physical talent overseas not to test the waters. NFL-E wasn't embraced for the same reasons soccors still trying to gain a foothold here. Inferior product. Great athletes are fun to watch no matter the game, and medicore athletes can get boring quick without some invested reason to cheer for them.
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It's not really short sighted, it's reality. Playing a game in a different location isn't somehow going to popularize the sport. Just like if they played the world cricket championships in New York. Yeah I might watch the game but I'm not going to run out and get a cricket bat and some wickets....They tried to do it the right way which is to create a league and somehow engrain the culture into the sport but that failed fairly miserably.
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It didn't fail it just wasn't financial profitable yet. NFL-E has gained interest in the sport especially in Italy and Germany. Football's being played over there locally now and London’s support for the Giants Miami game and Mexico's turnout for the Arizona San Fran game shows interest in seeing the game played at a high level. Its going to take time but there’s no reason to think that this sport can't catch on over there.150 years ago basketball, football, hockey they hardley even existed so the sports landscape is volatile enough that cricket and water polo could always catch on at some point. I mean the New York city schools are trying to force there kids to play cricket so we could even see that sports accession in our lifetime here.
 
Sweet Love said:
I think it would be fun to go to London to watch a SuperBowl (even in a pub). 99.9% of us do not even go to the Super Bowl, so would it really matter much where it is held?
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I might matter what time. Six pm Eastern would be 1 in the morning locally. The UK would get the Monday holiday that we should have.
 
This is just BS hype intended to create interest in England for the upcoming Giants-Dolphins game at Wembley Stadium.

Don't believe everything you read.

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
Koya said:
Super isn't about football as it is, so why is everyone so up in arms? It's not much more $$ to get to London as it is accross the U.S. to freakin Jacksonville or something.
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It would cost me a lot more to get to London than Jacksonville.
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Too early for west coast viewers. An 11 am Superbowl is just wrong. I haven't even tapped the second keg by 11 am on Superbowl Sunday.
 
Banger said:
kevinray said:
Banger said:
Football is and always will be a US sport. I understand why they want to market it outside the US but it will never work.
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This is a shortsighted opinion. 100 years ago the three most popular sports in the US were Baseball, Horseracing, and Boxing. All things change with time and the NFL would be foolish to ignore the larger world, which already has shown strong support for Ruby, and Australian Rules Football. John Grishams new book is all about the local Italian football league which stunned him while he was over there. There’s too much physical talent overseas not to test the waters. NFL-E wasn't embraced for the same reasons soccors still trying to gain a foothold here. Inferior product. Great athletes are fun to watch no matter the game, and medicore athletes can get boring quick without some invested reason to cheer for them.
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It's not really short sighted, it's reality. Playing a game in a different location isn't somehow going to popularize the sport. Just like if they played the world cricket championships in New York. Yeah I might watch the game but I'm not going to run out and get a cricket bat and some wickets....They tried to do it the right way which is to create a league and somehow engrain the culture into the sport but that failed fairly miserably.
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You obviously have never seen cricket! I can tell you you wouldn't watch it. Some of their games last days...... Besides people in England can watch the SB on TV now, just like we do.
 
BustedKnuckles said:
Sweet Love said:
I think it would be fun to go to London to watch a SuperBowl (even in a pub). 99.9% of us do not even go to the Super Bowl, so would it really matter much where it is held?
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I can`t imagine that the english would have the same passion at the game that we do :thumbup:
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Goodell could just tell the English fans to pretend it's an England v Germany soccer game. There would be plenty of passion then.
 
The more I think about it, the more I actually like this idea. And playing the SB in London would not just be about showcasing the sport to Europe. They can already see it on TV. It's more about showcasing how elite of a league the NFL has become. The Premiership doesn't play soccer games in the US to popularize the sport here. They do it because they can. London, along with NYC and a handful of other cities, is one of the capitals of the world. Hosting the game in London tells the world that the NFL is elite. We already know that it in the US, but Goodell wants the rest of the world to know it too if they don't already.

 
"Looking into it" is a political move by Goodell to appease the powers that be in London. Nothing more.

a) The NFL wants warm-weather locals...other than the occasional carrot they must throw to certain owners who are owed

b) London is not a warm-weather local

c) There are plenty of owners who would be owed larger favors than anyone in London

Unless I am underestimating c...

 
Sweet Love said:
I think it would be fun to go to London to watch a SuperBowl (even in a pub). 99.9% of us do not even go to the Super Bowl, so would it really matter much where it is held?
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That's what I was thinking. I don't really care where it's held.
 
It won't happen, for two important reasons:

1) Revenues would be lower.

2) All the cities which have stolen money from their taxpayers to pay for the future promise of a possible Super Bowl would go ballistic.

It's fortunate that these things are true because:

1) It's an amazingly idiotic idea.

 
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BustedKnuckles said:
Sweet Love said:
I think it would be fun to go to London to watch a SuperBowl (even in a pub). 99.9% of us do not even go to the Super Bowl, so would it really matter much where it is held?
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I can`t imagine that the english would have the same passion at the game that we do :popcorn:
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Passion for the game AT the SB? It's not like during the SB everyone is standing and making as much noise as they can to try to disrupt the O. Only a few thousand tickets go to the fans of the two teams. The vast majority are given away as corporate gifts. The SB is not about the audience in attendance. It's all about the audience watching from home...Who cares where a bunch of corporate stiffs watch the game?
 
kevinray said:
At the moment the goal is not to have some international league since that's logistically impossible and would damage the league in the states, but to increase interest in Europe and grow NFL sponsored clubs and talent in Europe instead of sending our guys over there.
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I don't see how playing one game in London is going to do that. Especially when the game tickets are ridiculously priced, the game is already televised over there and it could potentially feature teams from cities some Europeans have never heard of. You can easily get Americans to shell out $600+ per ticket to see their team play in the Super Bowl but is the average Joe in England going to pay that to see American football played by two teams he's never heard of? Heck no.So what you will end up doing is having a stadium 90% full of Americans and the other 10% wealthy Europeans. How did you grow NFL sponsored clubs and talent in Europe? All you really accomplished is taking the biggest sporting event in America overseas.
 
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