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I am genuinely curious - who picked up RB(s) throughout the season here in the FBG Bowl that helped them, even if only a week or 2? There had to be some but I'm drawing a blank.
The only one for me was Guerendo. I went RB heavy though because that is where value fell to me in the draft. I have Aaron Jones, Walker, Jacobs, and also took Mostert/Wright (who didn't help). I had Austime at times, Marshawn Lloyd for awhile (drafted).

Looking through the only real impact guy on waivers in our league was Tracy. Didn't really see any other RB's that were of significant contributions
 
I am genuinely curious - who picked up RB(s) throughout the season here in the FBG Bowl that helped them, even if only a week or 2? There had to be some but I'm drawing a blank.
Isaac Guerendo was picked up three months ago and sits on a dead team.
Karem Hunt was picked up 3 months ago and sits on a dead roster.
Cam Akers was picked up 3 months ago by a non-playoff team.
Tyrone Tracy was picked up 3 months ago and is on a alive playoff team.
D. Pierce made an appearanc on a playoff team now eliminated.
Akers again for a playoff team.
Gus Edwards for a playoff team.
Gus Edwards again for a team still alive.
Charbonnett ($2) for me who helped me score 198 in week 14 to make the playoffs.
 
I am genuinely curious - who picked up RB(s) throughout the season here in the FBG Bowl that helped them, even if only a week or 2? There had to be some but I'm drawing a blank.
I picked up Hunt very quickly when KC brought him back into the fold. He held a starting flex spot for me a number of weeks.
I considered it strongly. He was a free add at the time.
 
I’m confused - there was a week 15 match in my league. There appears to be a week 16 matchup.

I thought this went 14 weeks then all-play?

i confuse easily, so no need to panic.
 
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I also have not forgotten (because I took notes!) about you guys wanting some dedicated Shark Pool divisions next year. 2025 is going to be even better!!!
 
I am genuinely curious - who picked up RB(s) throughout the season here in the FBG Bowl that helped them, even if only a week or 2? There had to be some but I'm drawing a blank.
I picked up Hunt very quickly when KC brought him back into the fold. He held a starting flex spot for me a number of weeks.
oh crap of course. Yeah I picked him up everywhere - didn't win the bid in this one.
 
I am genuinely curious - who picked up RB(s) throughout the season here in the FBG Bowl that helped them, even if only a week or 2? There had to be some but I'm drawing a blank.
The only one for me was Guerendo. I went RB heavy though because that is where value fell to me in the draft. I have Aaron Jones, Walker, Jacobs, and also took Mostert/Wright (who didn't help). I had Austime at times, Marshawn Lloyd for awhile (drafted).

Looking through the only real impact guy on waivers in our league was Tracy. Didn't really see any other RB's that were of significant contributions
I was going to say Tracy but then looked and saw that I drafted him in the 16th round.
 
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I also have not forgotten (because I took notes!) about you guys wanting some dedicated Shark Pool divisions next year. 2025 is going to be even better!!!
You can give my Shark Pool spot away and put me in the league with 3 auto drafters and half the owners not using the WW budget.
 
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We hope you are having a good week. One thing we have loved seeing coming out of the first year of the FBG Bowl is Divisions wanting to make a league with the people who they’ve met through this experience. Footballguys wants to make the process even easier for you. If you would like to turn your 2024 Footballguys Bowl Division into a league, we are happy to pass the commissioner duties off to a member of the league to run next season. Please DM @FBGCommish OR email fbgcommish@footballguys.com if you’d like to do this. Leagues will be transferred following the conclusion of the 2024 season.

I also have not forgotten (because I took notes!) about you guys wanting some dedicated Shark Pool divisions next year. 2025 is going to be even better!!!
You can give my Shark Pool spot away and put me in the league with 3 auto drafters and half the owners not using the WW budget.
Oh @BassNBrew what would I do without you.
 
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We hope you are having a good week. One thing we have loved seeing coming out of the first year of the FBG Bowl is Divisions wanting to make a league with the people who they’ve met through this experience. Footballguys wants to make the process even easier for you. If you would like to turn your 2024 Footballguys Bowl Division into a league, we are happy to pass the commissioner duties off to a member of the league to run next season. Please DM @FBGCommish OR email fbgcommish@footballguys.com if you’d like to do this. Leagues will be transferred following the conclusion of the 2024 season.

I also have not forgotten (because I took notes!) about you guys wanting some dedicated Shark Pool divisions next year. 2025 is going to be even better!!!
You can give my Shark Pool spot away and put me in the league with 3 auto drafters and half the owners not using the WW budget.
Oh @BassNBrew what would I do without you.
I was like nah I want a SP Home League but for the contest, the fewer SP posters the better. We are the cream of the crop! Haha
 
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I also have not forgotten (because I took notes!) about you guys wanting some dedicated Shark Pool divisions next year. 2025 is going to be even better!!!
You can give my Shark Pool spot away and put me in the league with 3 auto drafters and half the owners not using the WW budget.
Oh @BassNBrew what would I do without you.
A shark pool league would be fun, as several people in my league this season (#29?) didn't really play after about mid-year (perhaps that's why I was undefeated in my last 7 games). The other owners in our league stayed engaged, and we're all working with our league winner to help in the playoffs (advice when asked).
 
we're all working with our league winner to help in the playoffs (advice when asked).
Cheaters
His profile avatar checks out for that. :boxing:

we're all working with our league winner to help in the playoffs (advice when asked).
Cheaters
His profile avatar checks out for that. :boxing:
It was cold in Columbus last night.
 
Done for the week and most likely will advance up 29 on cutline, but maaan even with scoring 198 this week, still like 80 behind the leaders....zombie team walking!

Looking ahead so many lessons learned for next season for sure and the Draft will be so much more important!

Thank you @Joey Wright for all your hard work to make this thing work this year!
 
@Scoresman is that you right at the cutline up .3? If so hopefully you squeeze through!

I recognise @BassNBrew and @Skipdog77 in the potential advancement group - any of our other normal posters possibly in next week's finals?
I was up in 18th or so before the SNF game, and only had the Dallas D going and dropped a bit. Don't have anyone going tonight, so I expect to drop further in the final weekly standings. I'm currently over 60 pts out of the top spot so I know i have no chance, but hoping to at least make the final week. Been a fun contest.
 
@Scoresman is that you right at the cutline up .3? If so hopefully you squeeze through!

I recognise @BassNBrew and @Skipdog77 in the potential advancement group - any of our other normal posters possibly in next week's finals?
Not sure if I'm a normal poster, but a good couple of weeks has me in the top 5 for the moment.
How does it work? Whoever has the most points after next week wins?
Yep, regular season weekly average score plus Week 15, 16, and 17 scores...highest total of those who make the final cut this week takes the title.
 
@Scoresman is that you right at the cutline up .3? If so hopefully you squeeze through!

I recognise @BassNBrew and @Skipdog77 in the potential advancement group - any of our other normal posters possibly in next week's finals?
Not sure if I'm a normal poster, but a good couple of weeks has me in the top 5 for the moment.
How does it work? Whoever has the most points after next week wins?
Week 17 (Round 3, finals)

  • Everyone who makes it to Week 17 will have a chance to win the tournament
  • Entrants will be listed in order on our leaderboard by combining the averaged regular weekly score, Week 15 score, Week 16 score, and Week 17 score
  • The entrant with the highest combined score will be crowned the winner
 
@Scoresman is that you right at the cutline up .3? If so hopefully you squeeze through!

I recognise @BassNBrew and @Skipdog77 in the potential advancement group - any of our other normal posters possibly in next week's finals?
Not sure if I'm a normal poster, but a good couple of weeks has me in the top 5 for the moment.
How does it work? Whoever has the most points after next week wins?
Week 17 (Round 3, finals)

  • Everyone who makes it to Week 17 will have a chance to win the tournament
  • Entrants will be listed in order on our leaderboard by combining the averaged regular weekly score, Week 15 score, Week 16 score, and Week 17 score
  • The entrant with the highest combined score will be crowned the winner
What @Joey Wright said.

Kudos to Joey on establishing and running this beast all season long. This was a massive undertaking and it ran seamlessly all season long. Timely updates to folks, any issues quickly addressed, and always a pleasant and engaging demeanor while dealing with a couple of thousand teams. You and your team made this contest a huge success out of the gate. Thank you for all the time that was put into it for us chuckleheads to enjoy.

@Joe Bryant
 
Kudos to Joey on establishing and running this beast all season long. This was a massive undertaking and it ran seamlessly all season long. Timely updates to folks, any issues quickly addressed, and always a pleasant and engaging demeanor while dealing with a couple of thousand teams. You and your team made this contest a huge success out of the gate. Thank you for all the time that was put into it for us chuckleheads to enjoy.

@Skipdog77 Thank you kindly for your words. I had a blast making this my big project for 2024. I had a lot of help from our team, so I can't take all the credit. Looking forward to making it even better in 2025.
 
I am genuinely curious - who picked up RB(s) throughout the season here in the FBG Bowl that helped them, even if only a week or 2? There had to be some but I'm drawing a blank.
I picked up Hunt and rode him for half the season.
I picked up and dropped Guerendo three times. He helped a little.
 
Hey @BassNBrew

Thanks for the heads up. These are actually legal moves. Sleeper allows you to drop bench players once their games have started to roster players who haven't started. It is a loop hole but they have a legal bench. Just for the week matchup it shows a 14 man roster. For instance, Vidal is not on the roster, but it shows as though in the matchup. We have a note to discuss this leading up to 2025.
 
Hey @BassNBrew

Thanks for the heads up. These are actually legal moves. Sleeper allows you to drop bench players once their games have started to roster players who haven't started. It is a loop hole but they have a legal bench. Just for the week matchup it shows a 14 man roster. For instance, Vidal is not on the roster, but it shows as though in the matchup. We have a note to discuss this leading up to 2025.
I disagree with your decision here @Joey Wright . I'm not a fan of fantasy league hosting sites determining what a league allows or does not allow. Actual written rules trump whatever a host site has set by default.

Example: We were told (at the very beginning of the season) that trades were not allowed in this league. Even though Sleeper gave you, the commish, no option to turn "off" the ability to trade. It was a written rule we were to abide by, lest we get tossed from the Bowl. Loophole closed. I thought this issue was handled well.

The league rules state that we are permitted 9 starter slots and 9 bench slots on our teams. That is it. That should be enough to treat this issue exactly the same as the trading issue. Just because the default settings of Sleeper allows this hoarding of players on bench slots to occur does not mean it should be allowed to occur at all in the FBG Bowl.

Why is this Sleeper setting being permitted to be abused? Okay, it's a loophole. So what? I am pretty sure the rules did not state that we were permitted 9 starter slots and 9 bench slots (except when loopholes are found and exploited.)

Rules are rules. Default settings on a hosting site are not rules. Nor should they be permitted to be exploited as such. The rules currently in place for the 2024 FBG Bowl are clear. 9 starters, 9 bench. That is it.

So, anyone doing this has a "legal" roster on Sleeper but, it is not legal in the FBG Bowl and should be dealt with accordingly. Especially when it is playoff time, final week or not. Any roster currently holding players on more than 9 bench slots needs to be fixed immediately. All non-playoff teams are locked so the illegal roster is a playoff team that has not been eliminated yet.

I am not suggesting you punish the offender of roster limits. I am suggesting it can be handled differently. Get the roster(s) into compliance. Roster limits are roster limits for a reason. There's also the tricky thing about it being in the rules.

Thanks for hearing me out. You've done a fantastic job this year with this huge undertaking. I am sure next year will be even better and I so very much look forward to participating again.

Happy Holidays and Merry New Year!!! 🏈🎄🎅🤶
 
Hey @BassNBrew

Thanks for the heads up. These are actually legal moves. Sleeper allows you to drop bench players once their games have started to roster players who haven't started. It is a loop hole but they have a legal bench. Just for the week matchup it shows a 14 man roster. For instance, Vidal is not on the roster, but it shows as though in the matchup. We have a note to discuss this leading up to 2025.
I disagree with your decision here @Joey Wright . I'm not a fan of fantasy league hosting sites determining what a league allows or does not allow. Actual written rules trump whatever a host site has set by default.

Example: We were told (at the very beginning of the season) that trades were not allowed in this league. Even though Sleeper gave you, the commish, no option to turn "off" the ability to trade. It was a written rule we were to abide by, lest we get tossed from the Bowl. Loophole closed. I thought this issue was handled well.

The league rules state that we are permitted 9 starter slots and 9 bench slots on our teams. That is it. That should be enough to treat this issue exactly the same as the trading issue. Just because the default settings of Sleeper allows this hoarding of players on bench slots to occur does not mean it should be allowed to occur at all in the FBG Bowl.

Why is this Sleeper setting being permitted to be abused? Okay, it's a loophole. So what? I am pretty sure the rules did not state that we were permitted 9 starter slots and 9 bench slots (except when loopholes are found and exploited.)

Rules are rules. Default settings on a hosting site are not rules. Nor should they be permitted to be exploited as such. The rules currently in place for the 2024 FBG Bowl are clear. 9 starters, 9 bench. That is it.

So, anyone doing this has a "legal" roster on Sleeper but, it is not legal in the FBG Bowl and should be dealt with accordingly. Especially when it is playoff time, final week or not. Any roster currently holding players on more than 9 bench slots needs to be fixed immediately. All non-playoff teams are locked so the illegal roster is a playoff team that has not been eliminated yet.

I am not suggesting you punish the offender of roster limits. I am suggesting it can be handled differently. Get the roster(s) into compliance. Roster limits are roster limits for a reason. There's also the tricky thing about it being in the rules.

Thanks for hearing me out. You've done a fantastic job this year with this huge undertaking. I am sure next year will be even better and I so very much look forward to participating again.

Happy Holidays and Merry New Year!!! 🏈🎄🎅🤶

Well technically they have the correct number of players (not 24), the software is still showing dropped players on their roster that are really free agents. I can put a bid on them for Wednesday. It's another "Sleeper" issue.
 
Hey @BassNBrew

Thanks for the heads up. These are actually legal moves. Sleeper allows you to drop bench players once their games have started to roster players who haven't started. It is a loop hole but they have a legal bench. Just for the week matchup it shows a 14 man roster. For instance, Vidal is not on the roster, but it shows as though in the matchup. We have a note to discuss this leading up to 2025.
I disagree with your decision here @Joey Wright . I'm not a fan of fantasy league hosting sites determining what a league allows or does not allow. Actual written rules trump whatever a host site has set by default.

Example: We were told (at the very beginning of the season) that trades were not allowed in this league. Even though Sleeper gave you, the commish, no option to turn "off" the ability to trade. It was a written rule we were to abide by, lest we get tossed from the Bowl. Loophole closed. I thought this issue was handled well.

The league rules state that we are permitted 9 starter slots and 9 bench slots on our teams. That is it. That should be enough to treat this issue exactly the same as the trading issue. Just because the default settings of Sleeper allows this hoarding of players on bench slots to occur does not mean it should be allowed to occur at all in the FBG Bowl.

Why is this Sleeper setting being permitted to be abused? Okay, it's a loophole. So what? I am pretty sure the rules did not state that we were permitted 9 starter slots and 9 bench slots (except when loopholes are found and exploited.)

Rules are rules. Default settings on a hosting site are not rules. Nor should they be permitted to be exploited as such. The rules currently in place for the 2024 FBG Bowl are clear. 9 starters, 9 bench. That is it.

So, anyone doing this has a "legal" roster on Sleeper but, it is not legal in the FBG Bowl and should be dealt with accordingly. Especially when it is playoff time, final week or not. Any roster currently holding players on more than 9 bench slots needs to be fixed immediately. All non-playoff teams are locked so the illegal roster is a playoff team that has not been eliminated yet.

I am not suggesting you punish the offender of roster limits. I am suggesting it can be handled differently. Get the roster(s) into compliance. Roster limits are roster limits for a reason. There's also the tricky thing about it being in the rules.

Thanks for hearing me out. You've done a fantastic job this year with this huge undertaking. I am sure next year will be even better and I so very much look forward to participating again.

Happy Holidays and Merry New Year!!! 🏈🎄🎅🤶

Well technically they have the correct number of players (not 24), the software is still showing dropped players on their roster that are really free agents. I can put a bid on them for Wednesday. It's another "Sleeper" issue.
Sorry Bass, I guess I didn't quite understand. I think my previous post still holds a bit of merit.

Something doesn't feel right when bench players can be dropped after their game has already started. In my mind those players should unquestionably be locked onto the rosters they are on and not droppable after their game starts. It seems shady otherwise. Nah, it is shady. It feels like an early waiver run for just one fantasy team. Someone could conceivably add a player yet not actually start him. Thus, this one person just removed a player from the waiver pool three days before waivers run.

If there is no technical fix within the Sleeper settings then I suggest that the player(s) added MUST BE USED in the STARTING lineup that day (if dropping a bench player after his NFL game has started.)

We can't add a player after their game starts because they are locked. This should also apply to dropping bench players. Once an NFL game starts all players on those two teams should instantly be locked onto a roster or the waiver pool.

If, as a team owner, all your bench players games have started then unfortunately you have no players to drop and you can not add a player. Simple, really.

Ok, I'm done. Just rambling away late at night thinking out loud.

Bye
 
:kicksrock: out by 16 points.
The good part, even a perfect lineup wouldn’t have kept me around. Finishing in the top 200 isn’t bad.

My league mate is #27, let’s go Fatherandson! :clap:
 
I am genuinely curious - who picked up RB(s) throughout the season here in the FBG Bowl that helped them, even if only a week or 2? There had to be some but I'm drawing a blank.
Patrick Taylor didn’t help.
No RBs. A few WRsv and TE had spot starts but no backs. And picked up Tua when he was injured, who helped a bit. Dropped Darnold though, so that was mistake.
With Henry, Achane, Bucky and Dobbins (most of the year) RB was my strong position.
 
Hey @BassNBrew

Thanks for the heads up. These are actually legal moves. Sleeper allows you to drop bench players once their games have started to roster players who haven't started. It is a loop hole but they have a legal bench. Just for the week matchup it shows a 14 man roster. For instance, Vidal is not on the roster, but it shows as though in the matchup. We have a note to discuss this leading up to 2025.
I disagree with your decision here @Joey Wright . I'm not a fan of fantasy league hosting sites determining what a league allows or does not allow. Actual written rules trump whatever a host site has set by default.

Example: We were told (at the very beginning of the season) that trades were not allowed in this league. Even though Sleeper gave you, the commish, no option to turn "off" the ability to trade. It was a written rule we were to abide by, lest we get tossed from the Bowl. Loophole closed. I thought this issue was handled well.

The league rules state that we are permitted 9 starter slots and 9 bench slots on our teams. That is it. That should be enough to treat this issue exactly the same as the trading issue. Just because the default settings of Sleeper allows this hoarding of players on bench slots to occur does not mean it should be allowed to occur at all in the FBG Bowl.

Why is this Sleeper setting being permitted to be abused? Okay, it's a loophole. So what? I am pretty sure the rules did not state that we were permitted 9 starter slots and 9 bench slots (except when loopholes are found and exploited.)

Rules are rules. Default settings on a hosting site are not rules. Nor should they be permitted to be exploited as such. The rules currently in place for the 2024 FBG Bowl are clear. 9 starters, 9 bench. That is it.

So, anyone doing this has a "legal" roster on Sleeper but, it is not legal in the FBG Bowl and should be dealt with accordingly. Especially when it is playoff time, final week or not. Any roster currently holding players on more than 9 bench slots needs to be fixed immediately. All non-playoff teams are locked so the illegal roster is a playoff team that has not been eliminated yet.

I am not suggesting you punish the offender of roster limits. I am suggesting it can be handled differently. Get the roster(s) into compliance. Roster limits are roster limits for a reason. There's also the tricky thing about it being in the rules.

Thanks for hearing me out. You've done a fantastic job this year with this huge undertaking. I am sure next year will be even better and I so very much look forward to participating again.

Happy Holidays and Merry New Year!!! 🏈🎄🎅🤶

Well technically they have the correct number of players (not 24), the software is still showing dropped players on their roster that are really free agents. I can put a bid on them for Wednesday. It's another "Sleeper" issue.
Sorry Bass, I guess I didn't quite understand. I think my previous post still holds a bit of merit.

Something doesn't feel right when bench players can be dropped after their game has already started. In my mind those players should unquestionably be locked onto the rosters they are on and not droppable after their game starts. It seems shady otherwise. Nah, it is shady. It feels like an early waiver run for just one fantasy team. Someone could conceivably add a player yet not actually start him. Thus, this one person just removed a player from the waiver pool three days before waivers run.

If there is no technical fix within the Sleeper settings then I suggest that the player(s) added MUST BE USED in the STARTING lineup that day (if dropping a bench player after his NFL game has started.)

We can't add a player after their game starts because they are locked. This should also apply to dropping bench players. Once an NFL game starts all players on those two teams should instantly be locked onto a roster or the waiver pool.

If, as a team owner, all your bench players games have started then unfortunately you have no players to drop and you can not add a player. Simple, really.

Ok, I'm done. Just rambling away late at night thinking out loud.

Bye
@Ruffrodys05 We have a note to address this during the build up to 2025. It was something people brought up a lot at the beginning of the season. It is tricky for sure. I appreciate your thoughts on it and will be sharing it with the team for sure.
 
Hey @BassNBrew

Thanks for the heads up. These are actually legal moves. Sleeper allows you to drop bench players once their games have started to roster players who haven't started. It is a loop hole but they have a legal bench. Just for the week matchup it shows a 14 man roster. For instance, Vidal is not on the roster, but it shows as though in the matchup. We have a note to discuss this leading up to 2025.
I disagree with your decision here @Joey Wright . I'm not a fan of fantasy league hosting sites determining what a league allows or does not allow. Actual written rules trump whatever a host site has set by default.

Example: We were told (at the very beginning of the season) that trades were not allowed in this league. Even though Sleeper gave you, the commish, no option to turn "off" the ability to trade. It was a written rule we were to abide by, lest we get tossed from the Bowl. Loophole closed. I thought this issue was handled well.

The league rules state that we are permitted 9 starter slots and 9 bench slots on our teams. That is it. That should be enough to treat this issue exactly the same as the trading issue. Just because the default settings of Sleeper allows this hoarding of players on bench slots to occur does not mean it should be allowed to occur at all in the FBG Bowl.

Why is this Sleeper setting being permitted to be abused? Okay, it's a loophole. So what? I am pretty sure the rules did not state that we were permitted 9 starter slots and 9 bench slots (except when loopholes are found and exploited.)

Rules are rules. Default settings on a hosting site are not rules. Nor should they be permitted to be exploited as such. The rules currently in place for the 2024 FBG Bowl are clear. 9 starters, 9 bench. That is it.

So, anyone doing this has a "legal" roster on Sleeper but, it is not legal in the FBG Bowl and should be dealt with accordingly. Especially when it is playoff time, final week or not. Any roster currently holding players on more than 9 bench slots needs to be fixed immediately. All non-playoff teams are locked so the illegal roster is a playoff team that has not been eliminated yet.

I am not suggesting you punish the offender of roster limits. I am suggesting it can be handled differently. Get the roster(s) into compliance. Roster limits are roster limits for a reason. There's also the tricky thing about it being in the rules.

Thanks for hearing me out. You've done a fantastic job this year with this huge undertaking. I am sure next year will be even better and I so very much look forward to participating again.

Happy Holidays and Merry New Year!!! 🏈🎄🎅🤶

Well technically they have the correct number of players (not 24), the software is still showing dropped players on their roster that are really free agents. I can put a bid on them for Wednesday. It's another "Sleeper" issue.
Sorry Bass, I guess I didn't quite understand. I think my previous post still holds a bit of merit.

Something doesn't feel right when bench players can be dropped after their game has already started. In my mind those players should unquestionably be locked onto the rosters they are on and not droppable after their game starts. It seems shady otherwise. Nah, it is shady. It feels like an early waiver run for just one fantasy team. Someone could conceivably add a player yet not actually start him. Thus, this one person just removed a player from the waiver pool three days before waivers run.

If there is no technical fix within the Sleeper settings then I suggest that the player(s) added MUST BE USED in the STARTING lineup that day (if dropping a bench player after his NFL game has started.)

We can't add a player after their game starts because they are locked. This should also apply to dropping bench players. Once an NFL game starts all players on those two teams should instantly be locked onto a roster or the waiver pool.

If, as a team owner, all your bench players games have started then unfortunately you have no players to drop and you can not add a player. Simple, really.

Ok, I'm done. Just rambling away late at night thinking out loud.

Bye
@Ruffrodys05 We have a note to address this during the build up to 2025. It was something people brought up a lot at the beginning of the season. It is tricky for sure. I appreciate your thoughts on it and will be sharing it with the team for sure.
@Joey Wright How is it tricky?

Are you and your team "ok" with the hosting site dictating what a league allows/does not allow?

I guess I'm finding it difficult to understand how "it is tricky for sure." This did not seem to be the case when a decision was made between the hosting sites inability to turn off trading options vs league rules forbidding trades.
 
Hey @BassNBrew

Thanks for the heads up. These are actually legal moves. Sleeper allows you to drop bench players once their games have started to roster players who haven't started. It is a loop hole but they have a legal bench. Just for the week matchup it shows a 14 man roster. For instance, Vidal is not on the roster, but it shows as though in the matchup. We have a note to discuss this leading up to 2025.
I disagree with your decision here @Joey Wright . I'm not a fan of fantasy league hosting sites determining what a league allows or does not allow. Actual written rules trump whatever a host site has set by default.

Example: We were told (at the very beginning of the season) that trades were not allowed in this league. Even though Sleeper gave you, the commish, no option to turn "off" the ability to trade. It was a written rule we were to abide by, lest we get tossed from the Bowl. Loophole closed. I thought this issue was handled well.

The league rules state that we are permitted 9 starter slots and 9 bench slots on our teams. That is it. That should be enough to treat this issue exactly the same as the trading issue. Just because the default settings of Sleeper allows this hoarding of players on bench slots to occur does not mean it should be allowed to occur at all in the FBG Bowl.

Why is this Sleeper setting being permitted to be abused? Okay, it's a loophole. So what? I am pretty sure the rules did not state that we were permitted 9 starter slots and 9 bench slots (except when loopholes are found and exploited.)

Rules are rules. Default settings on a hosting site are not rules. Nor should they be permitted to be exploited as such. The rules currently in place for the 2024 FBG Bowl are clear. 9 starters, 9 bench. That is it.

So, anyone doing this has a "legal" roster on Sleeper but, it is not legal in the FBG Bowl and should be dealt with accordingly. Especially when it is playoff time, final week or not. Any roster currently holding players on more than 9 bench slots needs to be fixed immediately. All non-playoff teams are locked so the illegal roster is a playoff team that has not been eliminated yet.

I am not suggesting you punish the offender of roster limits. I am suggesting it can be handled differently. Get the roster(s) into compliance. Roster limits are roster limits for a reason. There's also the tricky thing about it being in the rules.

Thanks for hearing me out. You've done a fantastic job this year with this huge undertaking. I am sure next year will be even better and I so very much look forward to participating again.

Happy Holidays and Merry New Year!!! 🏈🎄🎅🤶

Well technically they have the correct number of players (not 24), the software is still showing dropped players on their roster that are really free agents. I can put a bid on them for Wednesday. It's another "Sleeper" issue.
Sorry Bass, I guess I didn't quite understand. I think my previous post still holds a bit of merit.

Something doesn't feel right when bench players can be dropped after their game has already started. In my mind those players should unquestionably be locked onto the rosters they are on and not droppable after their game starts. It seems shady otherwise. Nah, it is shady. It feels like an early waiver run for just one fantasy team. Someone could conceivably add a player yet not actually start him. Thus, this one person just removed a player from the waiver pool three days before waivers run.

If there is no technical fix within the Sleeper settings then I suggest that the player(s) added MUST BE USED in the STARTING lineup that day (if dropping a bench player after his NFL game has started.)

We can't add a player after their game starts because they are locked. This should also apply to dropping bench players. Once an NFL game starts all players on those two teams should instantly be locked onto a roster or the waiver pool.

If, as a team owner, all your bench players games have started then unfortunately you have no players to drop and you can not add a player. Simple, really.

Ok, I'm done. Just rambling away late at night thinking out loud.

Bye
@Ruffrodys05 We have a note to address this during the build up to 2025. It was something people brought up a lot at the beginning of the season. It is tricky for sure. I appreciate your thoughts on it and will be sharing it with the team for sure.
@Joey Wright How is it tricky?

Are you and your team "ok" with the hosting site dictating what a league allows/does not allow?

I guess I'm finding it difficult to understand how "it is tricky for sure." This did not seem to be the case when a decision was made between the hosting sites inability to turn off trading options vs league rules forbidding trades.
Tricky in the aspect of "should we allow bench players who have already played to be dropped for free agent add/drops" It was something I would say was met with surprise at the beginning of the season with people being surprised by it. Most of the leagues I play in, this is a legal move. Whether I like it or not is a completely different story. Haha. This was a learning moment for myself that we need to be clearer on that for next year. For sure we will have it in the rules next season either way.

As far as trades, those are much easier to audit and catch. Auditing waiver transactions for 158 leagues (next year closer to 500 leagues probably) is a whole other ball game. In some aspects, the platform's settings need to police it and as long as the rules make it clear, we hopefully won't have many issues there.

Tricky also in this being a community project and our rules and settings hopefully need to operate in the best interest of the managers along with transparency. We appreciate you being here with us in this first season. It will only get better on this front. :)
 
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