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[barackdhouse]

@Joey Wright

Can you explain how waivers will work for the playoffs? Once we combine the 400+ teams, you may find yourself playing against the same players that you are starting, right?

You can still do waivers like normal within your division, but only among other division members that make the dance. So 2 or 3 teams total. Maybe 1 after next week. And yes there will be tons of teams in the dance with the same players. It's not that you *may* find yourself up against common players, it's that you *will* - so the team that ends up winning this thing is going to need to be unique on top of chalk performers.

I would expect the tourney to be heavy with guys like Barkley, Lamar, Bowers, etc...

 

[Gally]

The pt advantage idea seems terrible to me. Just my ten cents. I think it's perfect as is. While I agree it would be nice to have a perk for winning your division, honestly anything else would be suboptimal.

I am not sure why you are leaning this direction. Winning the division is absolutely meaningless as the entire goal is to score an many points over the threshold as possible. Wins are irrelevant in this format because you gain advantage for having a high per game average. Maximizing points is all that matters.

You are at a huge disadvantage if you finish 1st or 2nd but have a total points of 1800 pts. There are hundreds of teams that will be at 1975+ that are starting out with a minimum of a 12.5 pt advantage.

To each there own. Giving credit for being in first and second seems obvious to me. Otherwise why not just be total points?

If we want to give a perk to division winners, make it schwag of some kind. T shirt, medallion whatever.

This is an awesome idea. Getting a FBG shirt saying you won Division XXX of the Subscriber League is a great idea. Getting a Medalion as your Avatar on this board would be another great addition.

 

[Joey Wright]

I have 1837.5 points + this week’s 133.5 with Ja’Marr Chase YTP (thank you, Reed, for your 0)

So 1971 points. Am I understanding correctly that I need a 30-burger from Chase to get in the big dance?

you need a 4 burger. Much easier to accomplish. 1975 is the cutline.

 

[Joey Wright]

@Joey Wright

Can you explain how waivers will work for the playoffs? Once we combine the 400+ teams, you may find yourself playing against the same players that you are starting, right?

Great question!

You will still run your team within your league. Teams who have been eliminated from playoff contention are not allowed to do add/drops. Any teams still in playoffs can still make add/drops.
We posted messages the last few days in the Sleeper chat about this to hopefully minimize it from happeneing. If it does. just DM me on Sleeper or email at fbgcommish@footballguys.com

 

[Joey Wright]

@Joey Wright

Can you explain how waivers will work for the playoffs? Once we combine the 400+ teams, you may find yourself playing against the same players that you are starting, right?

Hmmm....and how do we determine who is still avaialble, when different leagues may have had different players rostered/on the FA list.

It almost feels like rosters should be locked for the duration after Week 14 for all teams.

I would assume you can get whatever players are available in your division. I think rosters are limited by your division partners. Any team not making the playoffs should not be making any moves.

This does beg the question that teams in a division where only 2 teams make it have an advantage on waivers (if they are as I described - which was a guess) over divisions that had 4 or 5 teams makes it. Less teams fighting for the flavor of the week.

We did discuss locking all the rosters in Week 14. For 2024, the decision was made to not allow teams out of the playoffs add/drops and waivers. We understand there are variables from league to league. Since this is a community contest, we felt allowing teams to do acquisitions would be the most friendly.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I have 1837.5 points + this week’s 133.5 with Ja’Marr Chase YTP (thank you, Reed, for your 0)

So 1971 points. Am I understanding correctly that I need a 30-burger from Chase to get in the big dance?

you need a 4 burger. Much easier to accomplish. 1975 is the cutline.

Awesome, thanks!

I was 7-0 or 8-0. Then (at various times) I lost Pacheco, Shaheed, Evans, Love, Doubs…

Minor miracle I was able to gut it out to get to this point.

 

[BassNBrew]

Wish one of no playoff teams had unloaded their rosters to help league mates out. We’ll have 5 or 6 fighting for scraps.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

That Chase TD did it.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Wish one of no playoff teams had unloaded their rosters to help league mates out. We’ll have 5 or 6 fighting for scraps.

You mean you want people to facilitate super teams? Or are you saying that happened?

 

[BassNBrew]

The pt advantage idea seems terrible to me. Just my ten cents. I think it's perfect as is. While I agree it would be nice to have a perk for winning your division, honestly anything else would be suboptimal.

I am not sure why you are leaning this direction. Winning the division is absolutely meaningless as the entire goal is to score an many points over the threshold as possible. Wins are irrelevant in this format because you gain advantage for having a high per game average. Maximizing points is all that matters.

You are at a huge disadvantage if you finish 1st or 2nd but have a total points of 1800 pts. There are hundreds of teams that will be at 1975+ that are starting out with a minimum of a 12.5 pt advantage.

To each there own. Giving credit for being in first and second seems obvious to me. Otherwise why not just be total points?

If we want to give a perk to division winners, make it schwag of some kind. T shirt, medallion whatever.

This is an awesome idea. Getting a FBG shirt saying you won Division XXX of the Subscriber League is a great idea. Getting a Medalion as your Avatar on this board would be another great addition.

Wins are most certainly huge. That 1800 point team advancing based solely on wins. The guy above is going to make it with 1974 points.

 

[BassNBrew]

That Chase TD did it.

I’m in too with the Burrow TD

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

That Chase TD did it.

I’m in too with the Burrow TD

Go us!

 

[BigJonE300]

I managed to win my division. I finished at 11-3 with less than the 1975 points. Top to bottom we've got a pretty balanced division and teams from ours are not likely to go too far due to it. We had a team finish at 4-10 that had 1939 points. Only one team finished with less than 1800. I'm curious how balanced other divisions were. A team advancing from a division with several absentee owners or poorly/auto drafted teams will be at a distinct advantage from here on. Oh well, at least I'm still alive.

 

[Gatorade]

I managed to win my division. I finished at 11-3 with less than the 1975 points. Top to bottom we've got a pretty balanced division and teams from ours are not likely to go too far due to it. We had a team finish at 4-10 that had 1939 points. Only one team finished with less than 1800. I'm curious how balanced other divisions were. A team advancing from a division with several absentee owners or poorly/auto drafted teams will be at a distinct advantage from here on. Oh well, at least I'm still alive.

Only two teams in my division (0006) finished with enough points. The first place team and the fifth place team. I was tied with two other teams at 10-4, but lost out on points to both and finished third. Two teams seemed to check out at the end and started players on bye.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

In 0033 we have exactly two teams that made the points cut. The #1 team and the #9 team! Each were ~25pts above the cut. We also had 3 teams at less than 20pts below the cut (#4, #5, #7). Overall it was a very balanced league with lots of leaderboard changes each week.

 

[TheWinz]

In 0005 we have 5 teams advancing, and all were over the 1975 threshold. I'm guessing Patrick Taylor will be the waiver pickup of the week.

 

[Dacomish]

0067 had 4 teams advance:
#1 - 2174/13-1
#2 - 1992/12-2
#3 - 2040/8-6 (myself)
#7 - 1989/6-8

 

[mphtrilogy]

looks like #009 has 4 teams advancing

 

[Battersbox]

#0065 League Champ...nbd

 

[ICLight]

0086 had 3 teams advancing, corresponding to the top 3 records. Points were #1 2103, #2 1977, #3 2090

 

[Joey Wright]

We had 543 teams make our 1975 point cut, or 28.5% of the entries. Congrats to @all who made it in!

The playoff standings are up at https://footballguysbowl.com/#standings right now!

A quick reminder: our Week 16 Semifinal will see a 50% reduction from Week 15 to 272 teams and then a 136 team final in Week 17.

May the best team win!!!

 

[BassNBrew]

1692.9 puts in 390 teams based on points. I count 50 teams below that with 9 wins or better. Don't have the time right now, but counting the 8 win teams under 1693 and reducing that by half should get in based on record. I come up with 197/2 = 99. 390 + 50 + 99 = 539.

539 / 1908 = 28.25%

We had 543 teams make our 1975 point cut, or 28.5% of the entries. Congrats to @all who made it in!

The playoff standings are up at https://footballguysbowl.com/#standings right now!

A quick reminder: our Week 16 Semifinal will see a 50% reduction from Week 15 to 272 teams and then a 136 team final in Week 17.

May the best team win!!!

Close. This week was a little higher scoring otherwise may have been dead on.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

250th

145 average.

Gonna be tough.

 

[joey]

Division 0083 has 4 teams in the playoffs.

i finished the regular season on a 6 game winning streak and went from 1001th place in the overall standings to 121st place heading into the playoffs.
Jordan Love, Barkley, Brian Robinson, RWhite, Dowdle, Nacua, Metcalf, Sutton, Kittle are my main starters with Mooney, Amari Cooper, Nix, Darnold and Otton my main bench contributors over the season.

Good luck in the playoffs everyone.

 

[BassNBrew]

Divison 66

5 teams moving on, all over 1975
We had 4 others over 1800, one at 1710 (2-12)
2 were in the 1300-1500 range.

9 of 12 were .500 record or better.

Not sure if we feasted on the inactivity of two teams or had great start/sit decisions.

 

[Dacomish]

250th

145 average.

Gonna be tough.

Right there with you I'm 242nd with a 145.7.....22.3 back of the leader.

 

[Gally]

Division 0113:

1. 10-4, 2079.80 (me)
2. 10-4, 2016
3. 10-4, 1910
4. 9-5, 1892
5. 8-6, 1925
6. 7-7, 1970 (just missed the cut)
7. 7-7, 1836
8. 6-8, 1888
9. 6-8, 1770
10. 5-9, 1814
11. 3-11, 1850
12. 3-11, 1622 ( but spent $85 FAAB so was trying - Had Kyler, Chubb, ETN, Tyreek, Kupp, Njoku, Metcalf so wasn't as bad as it looked)

Bottom line only two make it from this division as the only two teams above the cutline also finished 1st and 2nd.

 

[Gally]

250th

145 average.

Gonna be tough.

I am at 143rd with a 148 ppg avg. We better kick it into gear.

 

[BassNBrew]

Top 10 in an 8 point range.
The next 80 teams fall in an 8 points range.
The next 8 points encompasses 300 teams.
Pretty much the last 250 fall in the next 8 point range.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

fell short by 23 points, needed 180 exactly, got 157. Good luck to everyone who made it in, this was fun! Looking forward to joining again next year. Admittedly I didn't pay enough attention to the free agency cycle early in the season and that cost me with some questionable decisions on my bench.

 

[bro1ncos]

99th going in with a weekly bonus of 150.2.

Comes down to guys performing and picking the right RB2 each week for me

 

[Scoresman]

Looks like the two (known) forum members in League 62 are advancing, myself and @brewer

Nice!

 

[psychobillies]

Top 10 in an 8 point range.
The next 80 teams fall in an 8 points range.
The next 8 points encompasses 300 teams.
Pretty much the last 250 fall in the next 8 point range.

Looks like I'm 2 spots behind you in the standings. Same score, but I only won 7 games. Good luck

 

[Skipdog77]

Ranked #69 to start the playoffs. Thinking that has to be a good sign.

We had 6 teams from Division 0116 make it, with 4 of the 6 being over 2k pts, and one at 1990.00.

Highest pt total was 2135.70. I took 1st (12-2) with 2123.90. Our 2nd place team had 1934.50.

Been a fun contest, good luck to all those in the hunt!

 

[bro1ncos]

How much of an advantage is it to have only 2-3 teams make the playoffs from your league? A lot less competition for FA's then the leagues with 5 teams making the cut

 

[titusbramble]

Nowhere near playoffs here. Considering my draft started CMC, Etienne then Olave that shouldn't be a surprise

 

[brewer]

Looks like the two (known) forum members in League 62 are advancing, myself and @brewer

Nice!

And we split our regular season matchups. Good luck in the playoffs!

 

[Scoresman]

How much of an advantage is it to have only 2-3 teams make the playoffs from your league? A lot less competition for FA's then the leagues with 5 teams making the cut

I mean, unless I'm not thinking of something, it cant mean that much at this point with the WW as bare as it is. Maybe if you're streaming defenses, but I loaded up on a couple a week ago just in case.

 

[Gally]

How much of an advantage is it to have only 2-3 teams make the playoffs from your league? A lot less competition for FA's then the leagues with 5 teams making the cut

I mean, unless I'm not thinking of something, it cant mean that much at this point with the WW as bare as it is. Maybe if you're streaming defenses, but I loaded up on a couple a week ago just in case.

It is better for you to have less competition for FA's but as Scoresman said, there isn't a lot on the wire that will be difference makers so it will probably end up not meaning much.

 

[TheWinz]

How much of an advantage is it to have only 2-3 teams make the playoffs from your league? A lot less competition for FA's then the leagues with 5 teams making the cut

I mean, unless I'm not thinking of something, it cant mean that much at this point with the WW as bare as it is. Maybe if you're streaming defenses, but I loaded up on a couple a week ago just in case.

It is better for you to have less competition for FA's but as Scoresman said, there isn't a lot on the wire that will be difference makers so it will probably end up not meaning much.

Unless a bunch of stud RB's go down this week, and your only competition has no FAAB $$ left

 

[Gally]

We had 6 teams from Division 0116 make it, with 4 of the 6 being over 2k pts, and one at 1990.00

that seems strange. Were the other six teams just terrible? I mean did those six teams draft essentially from a six team draft and the other guys just hog up all the busts and injuries?

It will be interesting to see how much the individual division dispersal of players and strength of divisions factor into the end game.

This brings up another thought for future subscriber league ideas where leagues get segregated the following year if there gets to be enough participants. Kind of like a major league and a minor league. All division winners, 2nd place finishers and top playoff finishers get lumped into common divisions/leagues. Have relegation and promotion from year to year. Lot's of interesting ways to leverage this kind of information and league pairings.

 

[Gally]

How much of an advantage is it to have only 2-3 teams make the playoffs from your league? A lot less competition for FA's then the leagues with 5 teams making the cut

I mean, unless I'm not thinking of something, it cant mean that much at this point with the WW as bare as it is. Maybe if you're streaming defenses, but I loaded up on a couple a week ago just in case.

It is better for you to have less competition for FA's but as Scoresman said, there isn't a lot on the wire that will be difference makers so it will probably end up not meaning much.

Unless a bunch of stud RB's go down this week, and your only competition has no FAAB $$ left

But that doesn't necessarily help if the backups are garbage and won't really score anyway.

 

[-OZ-]

Ranked #69 to start the playoffs. Thinking that has to be a good sign.

We had 6 teams from Division 0116 make it, with 4 of the 6 being over 2k pts, and one at 1990.00.

Highest pt total was 2135.70. I took 1st (12-2) with 2123.90. Our 2nd place team had 1934.50.

Been a fun contest, good luck to all those in the hunt!

You’re kicking the butts of us at 0115. Or maybe we just had better overall competition
Two made it, with a 9-5 record and equal points at 2054.05. We had four others in the 1900s but miss the cut.

 

[TheWinz]

How much of an advantage is it to have only 2-3 teams make the playoffs from your league? A lot less competition for FA's then the leagues with 5 teams making the cut

I mean, unless I'm not thinking of something, it cant mean that much at this point with the WW as bare as it is. Maybe if you're streaming defenses, but I loaded up on a couple a week ago just in case.

It is better for you to have less competition for FA's but as Scoresman said, there isn't a lot on the wire that will be difference makers so it will probably end up not meaning much.

Unless a bunch of stud RB's go down this week, and your only competition has no FAAB $$ left

But that doesn't necessarily help if the backups are garbage and won't really score anyway.

You mean like Guerendo, the 3rd stringer? I was "forced" to start him this week with Derrick Henry off, and he helped me advance. I may now be paying up for Patrick Taylor.

 

[Gally]

How much of an advantage is it to have only 2-3 teams make the playoffs from your league? A lot less competition for FA's then the leagues with 5 teams making the cut

I mean, unless I'm not thinking of something, it cant mean that much at this point with the WW as bare as it is. Maybe if you're streaming defenses, but I loaded up on a couple a week ago just in case.

It is better for you to have less competition for FA's but as Scoresman said, there isn't a lot on the wire that will be difference makers so it will probably end up not meaning much.

Unless a bunch of stud RB's go down this week, and your only competition has no FAAB $$ left

But that doesn't necessarily help if the backups are garbage and won't really score anyway.

You mean like Guerendo, the 3rd stringer? I was "forced" to start him this week with Derrick Henry off, and he helped me advance. I may now be paying up for Patrick Taylor.

So name a backup on Waivers that has Guerendo's upside? I'll wait.......I just don't think there are many (if any) guys of upside on waivers. Guerendo wasn't on waivers in most of my leagues as he was already rostered at the time of CMC/Mason injuries.

 

[TheWinz]

How much of an advantage is it to have only 2-3 teams make the playoffs from your league? A lot less competition for FA's then the leagues with 5 teams making the cut

I mean, unless I'm not thinking of something, it cant mean that much at this point with the WW as bare as it is. Maybe if you're streaming defenses, but I loaded up on a couple a week ago just in case.

It is better for you to have less competition for FA's but as Scoresman said, there isn't a lot on the wire that will be difference makers so it will probably end up not meaning much.

Unless a bunch of stud RB's go down this week, and your only competition has no FAAB $$ left

But that doesn't necessarily help if the backups are garbage and won't really score anyway.

You mean like Guerendo, the 3rd stringer? I was "forced" to start him this week with Derrick Henry off, and he helped me advance. I may now be paying up for Patrick Taylor.

So name a backup on Waivers that has Guerendo's upside? I'll wait.......I just don't think there are many (if any) guys of upside on waivers. Guerendo wasn't on waivers in most of my leagues as he was already rostered at the time of CMC/Mason injuries.

Out of the nearly 2000 teams in this Sleeper league, how many times do you think Isaiah Davis was in starting lineups before he scored 12.2 in week 13? Lemme answer that - NONE! And how many times do you think he was then started in week 14, when a bunch of studs were on bye or hurt? Lemme answer that - alot more than NONE! And how did he do? He was RB15 with 15.7 points, outscoring guys like overall RB leader Saquon Barkley, #2 Henry who was on bye, and #3 Alvin Kamara.

Also, upside happens when a RB gets touches (or a WR gets targets, etc.). So if Guerendo is in fact out, I'd rather start Patrick Taylor, who should get the bulk of the touches over some stud's backup, who may see 5 touches. The point I was trying to make was some folks may enter the playoffs with literally no competition for the waiver wire, because they are the only ones left with money. And I would bet a player currently on waivers in every single league will be starter-worthy at some point in the next 3 weeks.

 

[Gally]

And I would bet a player currently on waivers in every single league will be starter-worthy at some point in the next 3 weeks.

I agree with this because crap happens. But there is a difference between starter worthy and difference making.

Don't get me wrong, those in leagues with 2 owners left have an advantage over those with 6 teams left.

 

[TheWinz]

But there is a difference between starter worthy and difference making.

Not to the teams that started those players. I guarantee at least 1 team made the 1975 cut because they started Isaiah Davis in week 14. To that team, he was a difference maker.

 

[Joey Wright]

Just a heads up to you guys who have been AWESOME during this whole FBG Bowl Process!!!

We are locking all NON- FBG BOWL PLAYOFF teams. We were hoping the messaging would be enough, but we had enough add/drop/waivers from non-playoff teams last night to merit having to do this.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Just a heads up to you guys who have been AWESOME during this whole FBG Bowl Process!!!

We are locking all NON- FBG BOWL PLAYOFF teams. We were hoping the messaging would be enough, but we had enough add/drop/waivers from non-playoff teams last night to merit having to do this.

Thank you @Joey Wright

I know lots of leagues have waivers until the end. But we think it's important that we do what we said we'd do on this and keep the waiver pickups to only the playoff teams after they're set.

And I fully get that not everyone has time to read the messaging and rules. It's more work for Joey, but locking the non playoff teams is the cleanest and most fair way to handle this as we stick to what we've said for the rules. Thanks y'all.