Gotham - a show about Batman without any actual uhhh...Batman (2 Viewers)

[Charlie Steiner]

Anyone else like last night's episode?

Enjoyed it. No Fish.

I hope that Penguin's mother is somehow eliminated. I am already tired of that character.

They've already had scenes that depict their relationship being somewhere between the Bates' in Psycho and the Shaws in The Manchurian Candidate.

Spoiler

Since we've now seen a case of a stepson killing his mother, I don't know if they'll duplicate that angle for Penguin killing his mother, and since she also doesn't wield any power over his career, I don't see him ending up putting a bullet in her head either, so I'm thinking she'll wind up in Arkham.

 

[snogger]

Anyone else like last night's episode?

Thought it was very good.. No Fish made it even better..

Could have done without the Penguin and his Mom but it will lead to a very penguin which is a good thing..

Enjoying the Orge side story..

And the Riddler becoming the Riddler was great also.

 

[FUBAR]

Anyone else like last night's episode?

Enjoyed it. No Fish.I hope that Penguin's mother is somehow eliminated. I am already tired of that character.

She served her purpose of showing why penguin is creepy. But yeah, she's creepy.

 

[nysfl2]

I think they've done a good job with the Riddler storyline. Though I was hoping for a little more creativity in how Nygma actually killed the guy.

 

[Brady Marino]

Good episode. Barbara finally has a halfway interesting storyline.

 

[AcerFC]

Anyone else like last night's episode?

much much better than last week

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Anyone else like last night's episode?

much much better than last week

and even better this week

 

[Charlie Steiner]

I don't like nitpicking this show (and I know that this one just begs for it), but for as much as I think the show is moving in the right direction:

Spoiler

1. They need to quit with the Bullock/Gordon-gets-knocked-out-at-first-but-then-recovers-in-the-middle-of-the-fight-to-KO-the-bad-guy schtick.

2. I hope Nygma keeps his job with the GCPD for as long as possible, but I find it hard to believe Ms. Kringle didn't even suspect that was her boyfriend's mangled corpse.

3. Introducing Fox was a nice surprise.

 

[B Maverick]

I don't like nitpicking this show (and I know that this one just begs for it), but for as much as I think the show is moving in the right direction:

Spoiler

1. They need to quit with the Bullock/Gordon-gets-knocked-out-at-first-but-then-recovers-in-the-middle-of-the-fight-to-KO-the-bad-guy schtick.

2. I hope Nygma keeps his job with the GCPD for as long as possible, but I find it hard to believe Ms. Kringle didn't even suspect that was her boyfriend's mangled corpse.

3. Introducing Fox was a nice surprise.

Was thinking the same things

 

[stbugs]

Anyone else like last night's episode?

much much better than last week

and even better this week

Agreed, I thought this may have been the best show so far. It was good to start, got derailed and has gotten better. I know, they like to introduce the villains, but they got away from the mob/police stories and they got back to it. Loved the darkness of this episode and the trick by the Penguin, just much better show.

 

[stbugs]

I don't like nitpicking this show (and I know that this one just begs for it), but for as much as I think the show is moving in the right direction:

Spoiler

1. They need to quit with the Bullock/Gordon-gets-knocked-out-at-first-but-then-recovers-in-the-middle-of-the-fight-to-KO-the-bad-guy schtick.

2. I hope Nygma keeps his job with the GCPD for as long as possible, but I find it hard to believe Ms. Kringle didn't even suspect that was her boyfriend's mangled corpse.

3. Introducing Fox was a nice surprise.

I sort of agree with 1, I thought it was a bit much and to be honest, I hate when the bad guy expects everything. Anticipating that they would hear the train and the bridge and figure out where he went with Barbara. I think it would have been better if they surprised him and still saved her. 2, I completely disagree with because the guy was an awful person. She assumed right away (and said this on the show) that he blew her off as he had done before. Also, you expect to see body parts in the morgue, not that a person you worked with who was kind of a ##### would kill your much stronger boyfriend. Agreed on 3, pretty cool.

Unfortunately, Fish is back in the finale. Just get rid of her already. This could be such a solid show if they stick with what they have done the last few episodes. Crime solving with Nygma, mob wars, Penguin, Bruce/Alfred/Selena Wayne Enterprises and occasional other characters as part of that show. Get rid of Fish and get rid of the need to have to introduce all the villains and you can great shows like last night every week.

 

[3C's]

I don't like nitpicking this show (and I know that this one just begs for it), but for as much as I think the show is moving in the right direction:

Spoiler

1. They need to quit with the Bullock/Gordon-gets-knocked-out-at-first-but-then-recovers-in-the-middle-of-the-fight-to-KO-the-bad-guy schtick.

2. I hope Nygma keeps his job with the GCPD for as long as possible, but I find it hard to believe Ms. Kringle didn't even suspect that was her boyfriend's mangled corpse.

3. Introducing Fox was a nice surprise.

Spoiler

I sort of agree with 1, I thought it was a bit much and to be honest, I hate when the bad guy expects everything. Anticipating that they would hear the train and the bridge and figure out where he went with Barbara. I think it would have been better if they surprised him and still saved her. 2, I completely disagree with because the guy was an awful person. She assumed right away (and said this on the show) that he blew her off as he had done before. Also, you expect to see body parts in the morgue, not that a person you worked with who was kind of a ##### would kill your much stronger boyfriend. Agreed on 3, pretty cool.

Unfortunately, Fish is back in the finale. Just get rid of her already. This could be such a solid show if they stick with what they have done the last few episodes. Crime solving with Nygma, mob wars, Penguin, Bruce/Alfred/Selena Wayne Enterprises and occasional other characters as part of that show. Get rid of Fish and get rid of the need to have to introduce all the villains and you can great shows like last night every week.

Spoiler

Jada/Fish already said she won't be back so this is it.

 

[snogger]

I don't like nitpicking this show (and I know that this one just begs for it), but for as much as I think the show is moving in the right direction:

Spoiler

1. They need to quit with the Bullock/Gordon-gets-knocked-out-at-first-but-then-recovers-in-the-middle-of-the-fight-to-KO-the-bad-guy schtick.

2. I hope Nygma keeps his job with the GCPD for as long as possible, but I find it hard to believe Ms. Kringle didn't even suspect that was her boyfriend's mangled corpse.

3. Introducing Fox was a nice surprise.

Spoiler

I sort of agree with 1, I thought it was a bit much and to be honest, I hate when the bad guy expects everything. Anticipating that they would hear the train and the bridge and figure out where he went with Barbara. I think it would have been better if they surprised him and still saved her. 2, I completely disagree with because the guy was an awful person. She assumed right away (and said this on the show) that he blew her off as he had done before. Also, you expect to see body parts in the morgue, not that a person you worked with who was kind of a ##### would kill your much stronger boyfriend. Agreed on 3, pretty cool.

Unfortunately, Fish is back in the finale. Just get rid of her already. This could be such a solid show if they stick with what they have done the last few episodes. Crime solving with Nygma, mob wars, Penguin, Bruce/Alfred/Selena Wayne Enterprises and occasional other characters as part of that show. Get rid of Fish and get rid of the need to have to introduce all the villains and you can great shows like last night every week.

Spoiler

Jada/Fish already said she won't be back so this is it.

and

 

[stbugs]

I don't like nitpicking this show (and I know that this one just begs for it), but for as much as I think the show is moving in the right direction:

Spoiler

1. They need to quit with the Bullock/Gordon-gets-knocked-out-at-first-but-then-recovers-in-the-middle-of-the-fight-to-KO-the-bad-guy schtick.

2. I hope Nygma keeps his job with the GCPD for as long as possible, but I find it hard to believe Ms. Kringle didn't even suspect that was her boyfriend's mangled corpse.

3. Introducing Fox was a nice surprise.

Spoiler

I sort of agree with 1, I thought it was a bit much and to be honest, I hate when the bad guy expects everything. Anticipating that they would hear the train and the bridge and figure out where he went with Barbara. I think it would have been better if they surprised him and still saved her. 2, I completely disagree with because the guy was an awful person. She assumed right away (and said this on the show) that he blew her off as he had done before. Also, you expect to see body parts in the morgue, not that a person you worked with who was kind of a ##### would kill your much stronger boyfriend. Agreed on 3, pretty cool.

Unfortunately, Fish is back in the finale. Just get rid of her already. This could be such a solid show if they stick with what they have done the last few episodes. Crime solving with Nygma, mob wars, Penguin, Bruce/Alfred/Selena Wayne Enterprises and occasional other characters as part of that show. Get rid of Fish and get rid of the need to have to introduce all the villains and you can great shows like last night every week.

Spoiler

Jada/Fish already said she won't be back so this is it.

Spoiler

Woo effing hoo. So glad she's not coming back. Her story line just got so stupid. They should have just killed her when they captured her. That whole escape process and then kidnap by the surgeon was so stupid and tangential.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Lucius Fox showing up surprised me. Glad to see him and finally be rid of Fish

 

[larch]

The one thing I didn't like is that they spent three episodes talking up the Ogre arc and getting that background going (which was a pretty in depth back story compared to the other "one-and-done" criminals) and it was a very anti-climatic ending.

 

[B Maverick]

The one thing I didn't like is that they spent three episodes talking up the Ogre arc and getting that background going (which was a pretty in depth back story compared to the other "one-and-done" criminals) and it was a very anti-climatic ending.

I am glad to hear I am not the only one that thought that. But since it was a 3 ep arc I wasnt sure if I missed something

 

[stbugs]

The one thing I didn't like is that they spent three episodes talking up the Ogre arc and getting that background going (which was a pretty in depth back story compared to the other "one-and-done" criminals) and it was a very anti-climatic ending.

I am glad to hear I am not the only one that thought that. But since it was a 3 ep arc I wasnt sure if I missed something

I guess I can see that. I really enjoyed the arc because they put a good amount into it. Maybe the ending was a little quick, but not sure how I would consider killing Barbara's parents and a shot to the head anti-climatic. I thought it was a great episode.

 

[B Maverick]

The one thing I didn't like is that they spent three episodes talking up the Ogre arc and getting that background going (which was a pretty in depth back story compared to the other "one-and-done" criminals) and it was a very anti-climatic ending.

I am glad to hear I am not the only one that thought that. But since it was a 3 ep arc I wasnt sure if I missed something

I guess I can see that. I really enjoyed the arc because they put a good amount into it. Maybe the ending was a little quick, but not sure how I would consider killing Barbara's parents and a shot to the head anti-climatic. I thought it was a great episode.

I did too, but it seemed like this huge build up to BAM! but no POW! SOCK! Etc...., just dead. To me killing the parents was part of the build up then the shot was the anticlimactic ending.

 

[stbugs]

The one thing I didn't like is that they spent three episodes talking up the Ogre arc and getting that background going (which was a pretty in depth back story compared to the other "one-and-done" criminals) and it was a very anti-climatic ending.

I am glad to hear I am not the only one that thought that. But since it was a 3 ep arc I wasnt sure if I missed something

I guess I can see that. I really enjoyed the arc because they put a good amount into it. Maybe the ending was a little quick, but not sure how I would consider killing Barbara's parents and a shot to the head anti-climatic. I thought it was a great episode.

I did too, but it seemed like this huge build up to BAM! but no POW! SOCK! Etc...., just dead. To me killing the parents was part of the build up then the shot was the anticlimactic ending.

I can see that. It just didn't bother me. I figured it was coming somehow in the house, no way he would get away. He still wanted Barbara, so he wasn't going to just bail.

 

[B Maverick]

The one thing I didn't like is that they spent three episodes talking up the Ogre arc and getting that background going (which was a pretty in depth back story compared to the other "one-and-done" criminals) and it was a very anti-climatic ending.

I am glad to hear I am not the only one that thought that. But since it was a 3 ep arc I wasnt sure if I missed something

I guess I can see that. I really enjoyed the arc because they put a good amount into it. Maybe the ending was a little quick, but not sure how I would consider killing Barbara's parents and a shot to the head anti-climatic. I thought it was a great episode.

I did too, but it seemed like this huge build up to BAM! but no POW! SOCK! Etc...., just dead. To me killing the parents was part of the build up then the shot was the anticlimactic ending.

I can see that. It just didn't bother me. I figured it was coming somehow in the house, no way he would get away. He still wanted Barbara, so he wasn't going to just bail.

Me too, just a minor note on that. Looking forward to the final eps

 

[AcerFC]

Barbara is super hot

 

[FUBAR]

The one thing I didn't like is that they spent three episodes talking up the Ogre arc and getting that background going (which was a pretty in depth back story compared to the other "one-and-done" criminals) and it was a very anti-climatic ending.

I am glad to hear I am not the only one that thought that. But since it was a 3 ep arc I wasnt sure if I missed something

I guess I can see that. I really enjoyed the arc because they put a good amount into it. Maybe the ending was a little quick, but not sure how I would consider killing Barbara's parents and a shot to the head anti-climatic. I thought it was a great episode.

I did too, but it seemed like this huge build up to BAM! but no POW! SOCK! Etc...., just dead. To me killing the parents was part of the build up then the shot was the anticlimactic ending.

I can see that. It just didn't bother me. I figured it was coming somehow in the house, no way he would get away. He still wanted Barbara, so he wasn't going to just bail.

IMO the arc wasn't really about the ogre, it's about Barbara.

 

[larch]

The one thing I didn't like is that they spent three episodes talking up the Ogre arc and getting that background going (which was a pretty in depth back story compared to the other "one-and-done" criminals) and it was a very anti-climatic ending.

I am glad to hear I am not the only one that thought that. But since it was a 3 ep arc I wasnt sure if I missed something

I guess I can see that. I really enjoyed the arc because they put a good amount into it. Maybe the ending was a little quick, but not sure how I would consider killing Barbara's parents and a shot to the head anti-climatic. I thought it was a great episode.

I did too, but it seemed like this huge build up to BAM! but no POW! SOCK! Etc...., just dead. To me killing the parents was part of the build up then the shot was the anticlimactic ending.

I can see that. It just didn't bother me. I figured it was coming somehow in the house, no way he would get away. He still wanted Barbara, so he wasn't going to just bail.

IMO the arc wasn't really about the ogre, it's about Barbara.

Maybe but they (Fox) was making a huge deal that Milo Ventimiglia was signed on to do a villain arc and that the Ogre was coming to Gotham.

 

[stbugs]

The one thing I didn't like is that they spent three episodes talking up the Ogre arc and getting that background going (which was a pretty in depth back story compared to the other "one-and-done" criminals) and it was a very anti-climatic ending.

I am glad to hear I am not the only one that thought that. But since it was a 3 ep arc I wasnt sure if I missed something

I guess I can see that. I really enjoyed the arc because they put a good amount into it. Maybe the ending was a little quick, but not sure how I would consider killing Barbara's parents and a shot to the head anti-climatic. I thought it was a great episode.

I did too, but it seemed like this huge build up to BAM! but no POW! SOCK! Etc...., just dead. To me killing the parents was part of the build up then the shot was the anticlimactic ending.

I can see that. It just didn't bother me. I figured it was coming somehow in the house, no way he would get away. He still wanted Barbara, so he wasn't going to just bail.

IMO the arc wasn't really about the ogre, it's about Barbara.

Based on the preview I saw on Dig, I think you are correct.

 

[FUBAR]

Good season finale.

Nothing extremely surprising as they hinted at most things in the previews and face it, prequels are somewhat constrained. But a few thoughts:

Spoiler

1. I did not like Selina going with Fish's gang. Even less so when she found Jim and brought him out.

2. Barbara's fight with Leslie, Jim with impeccable timing of course.

3. Nygma's split personality, fairly well done.

4. Don't think Fish is really dead. We've seen this before.

5. Yep, the plotline of the Ogre was about getting Barbara to change.

6. Harvey is awesome. A survivor, yet one with a strong relationship with Jim. He's become my favorite character.

7. When does next season begin? I didn't expect to like this show as much as SHIELD, but I do. More actually.

 

[stbugs]

Solid end to the season. Still never liked the Fish story lines and I didn't like Selena with her, but hopefully she's gone for a while and hopefully for good. Loved the Penguin this episode and his ability to manipulate and the girl fight was solid. Not sure how they are going to get Jim and Barbara back together after that, knowing

Spoiler

she murdered her parents

. Not really a spoiler, but just in case people haven't watched yet.

 

[skol asylum]

Who says they need to be together? Never have like her character much. He should stick with Anna from V.

 

[stbugs]

Who says they need to be together? Never have like her character much. He should stick with Anna from V.

They don't, I just figured they were sort of sticking to the basic story lines.

 

[Charlie Steiner]

I thought the finale was strong and I liked the 'cliffhangers', but I couldn't understand why Victor Z. didn't make an appearance. The Falcone part of the story almost screamed for him to show up. Also

Spoiler

I was hoping to see Nygma stay with the GCPD for a while longer before/during his transformation into Riddler.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Enh, I did not like the finale much at all. First, I had just had! Enough! Of! Fish! I was hoping for her to get a satisfying and conclusive sendoff, but of course they left the door open for her to make some appearance(s) in a tiresome guest arc in future seasons. Glad to see Maroni gone, however.

There was much that just did not make any sense and was jarring. Examples:

-All of the dudes that Maroni/Loeb dispatched to the hospital ignored Falcone sitting tied up and defenseless in his room in favor of shooting Stormtrooperesque barrages of errant bullets at Gordon as he catapulted around with ridiculous ballet moves. Why not just tie Gordon down with one shooter while the other guys, you know, go kill Falcone, which is what they were doing there to begin with?

-Jim repeatedly said he was done in this town. Huh? He just caught an awful serial killer last week.

-What was the point of Fish's entire Island of Dr. Dollmaker subplot??

-Fish frees Harvey but leaves Jim tied up, while Harvey just stands there.

-Selina had no reason whatsoever to join up with Fish.

I also thought Barbara's transformation into a psycho was ridiculous, although at least it gave that gorgeous hottie Erin Richards a chance to act for a change.

The ending would have been really fun except . . . it was completely spoiled in the previews.

Wow. I enjoyed probably 16-17 of the season's 22 episodes, but it's hard not to feel like the whole thing was a letdown after a finale that bad.

 

[Capella]

Man, 22 ####### episodes. I don't know how you all do it.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Man, 22 ####### episodes. I don't know how you all do it.

It wasn't anything I saved on the DVR after watching or watched twice or anything, but for most of the season it was good solid entertainment. Finale was a huge bummer, though.

 

[one time]

Enh, I did not like the finale much at all. First, I had just had! Enough! Of! Fish! I was hoping for her to get a satisfying and conclusive sendoff, but of course they left the door open for her to make some appearance(s) in a tiresome guest arc in future seasons. Glad to see Maroni gone, however.

There was much that just did not make any sense and was jarring. Examples:

-All of the dudes that Maroni/Loeb dispatched to the hospital ignored Falcone sitting tied up and defenseless in his room in favor of shooting Stormtrooperesque barrages of errant bullets at Gordon as he catapulted around with ridiculous ballet moves. Why not just tie Gordon down with one shooter while the other guys, you know, go kill Falcone, which is what they were doing there to begin with?

Plausible that they don't know what room he is in, yet they come in and chase after the guy shooting at them.

-Jim repeatedly said he was done in this town. Huh? He just caught an awful serial killer last week.

Commissioner Loeb has it in for Gordon...Especially now that Loeb is backing Maroni killing Falcone and Gordon isn't gonna go along with it.

-What was the point of Fish's entire Island of Dr. Dollmaker subplot??

I assumed this was suppose to be something different but Jada Pinkett leaving put the kabosh on that.

-Fish frees Harvey but leaves Jim tied up, while Harvey just stands there.

Not sure what your getting at here. Fish and Harvey go way back so shes letting him go. Jim is a cockroach she needs to crush and will kill him quick.

-Selina had no reason whatsoever to join up with Fish.

Other than being an orphan with no ties whom just killed someone. She going to be very attracted to a female in a position of power, especially after the 2 weeks they were together before the finale.

I also thought Barbara's transformation into a psycho was ridiculous, although at least it gave that gorgeous hottie Erin Richards a chance to act for a change.

Beg to differ. Ogre has a way of mentally changing his victims during the traumatic process. Especially Barbara who never really seemed strong by any means mentally.

The ending would have been really fun except . . . it was completely spoiled in the previews.

Wow. I enjoyed probably 16-17 of the season's 22 episodes, but it's hard not to feel like the whole thing was a letdown after a finale that bad.

Your criticisms are pretty thin. Great show.

 

[FUBAR]

AA's point about the previews showing too much is fair, but as with all prequels there aren't going to be major surprises.

it's like being upset when Anakin turned bad.

 

[larch]

-Selina had no reason whatsoever to join up with Fish.

This irked me as well. For someone that never takes orders from anyone and how she mentioned that very frequently, she did join up with Fish pretty quickly. Unless they were doing that to show that Fish is a very persuasive individual.

-All of the dudes that Maroni/Loeb dispatched to the hospital ignored Falcone sitting tied up and defenseless in his room in favor of shooting Stormtrooperesque barrages of errant bullets at Gordon as he catapulted around with ridiculous ballet moves. Why not just tie Gordon down with one shooter while the other guys, you know, go kill Falcone, which is what they were doing there to begin with?

I agree as well. You have him on the run, go in with the other amount of guys that were there to get Falcone.

Of course the other thing that bothered me, Fish was shot and then was gone for two episodes and then reappeared. Where did she go? Did she have surgery? Did she almost die? Why shoot her and then have her disappear for a couple of episodes?

 

[kupcho1]

I might watch it if it's set up in the structure of Mad Men and Breaking Bad with 13 episodes a year. I don't think I'll ever watch a bloated 25 episode network show again.

Good call, although it was 22 episodes would have been a much better, tighter show with say a 16 episode season.

 

[Aerial Assault]

AA's point about the previews showing too much is fair, but as with all prequels there aren't going to be major surprises.

it's like being upset when Anakin turned bad.

Well, with a TV show of indeterminate length, as opposed to three prearranged movies, you don't know when things are going to happen. So it would be nice if the preview monkeys didn't give key stuff away. And I wasn't upset that they found the Batcave, or a (pre)Batcave; I was upset that the previews gave it away weeks in advance and then it turns out to be the season-ending cliffhanger. Stupid.

 

[Sinrman]

When I first heard about it, I was skeptical. But overall it was solid. A few stories I found a bit boring, especially (and I'm sure I'll get pummeled for it) the Bruce Wayne portion. However, the last few episodes, where he's gearing up to take on his own company he inherited, was good and left me intrigued how it unfolds. The Fish stuff... I liked it at times, but it got kinda bland and am glad that ended. I always wondered what would be the catalyst for the Riddler. Good story there...

Really looking forward to season 2.

 

[AcerFC]

AA's point about the previews showing too much is fair, but as with all prequels there aren't going to be major surprises.

it's like being upset when Anakin turned bad.

Well, with a TV show of indeterminate length, as opposed to three prearranged movies, you don't know when things are going to happen. So it would be nice if the preview monkeys didn't give key stuff away. And I wasn't upset that they found the Batcave, or a (pre)Batcave; I was upset that the previews gave it away weeks in advance and then it turns out to be the season-ending cliffhanger. Stupid.

Not asking this to be a doosh or start something, but why do you watch the previews?

The show ends, i delete and never see another thing about it until I watch again next week.

 

[Aerial Assault]

AA's point about the previews showing too much is fair, but as with all prequels there aren't going to be major surprises.

it's like being upset when Anakin turned bad.

Well, with a TV show of indeterminate length, as opposed to three prearranged movies, you don't know when things are going to happen. So it would be nice if the preview monkeys didn't give key stuff away. And I wasn't upset that they found the Batcave, or a (pre)Batcave; I was upset that the previews gave it away weeks in advance and then it turns out to be the season-ending cliffhanger. Stupid.

Not asking this to be a doosh or start something, but why do you watch the previews?

The show ends, i delete and never see another thing about it until I watch again next week.

I don't always have the remote in my hand when the show ends. Additionally, in this particular case the scene in question was spoiled in numerous ads for Gotham during other Fox shows.

 

[Brady Marino]

Michael Chiklis joins Gotham cast for season 2.

Can we haz Vic Mackey?

 

[FUBAR]

AA's point about the previews showing too much is fair, but as with all prequels there aren't going to be major surprises.

it's like being upset when Anakin turned bad.

Well, with a TV show of indeterminate length, as opposed to three prearranged movies, you don't know when things are going to happen. So it would be nice if the preview monkeys didn't give key stuff away. And I wasn't upset that they found the Batcave, or a (pre)Batcave; I was upset that the previews gave it away weeks in advance and then it turns out to be the season-ending cliffhanger. Stupid.

Not asking this to be a doosh or start something, but why do you watch the previews?

The show ends, i delete and never see another thing about it until I watch again next week.

I don't always have the remote in my hand when the show ends. Additionally, in this particular case the scene in question was spoiled in numerous ads for Gotham during other Fox shows.

we still have commercials?

 

[shadyridr]

Michael Chiklis joins Gotham cast for season 2.

Can we haz Vic Mackey?

they have all this great source material and the two big stars this show had had both played characters not from the comics.so stupid

 

[Sebowski]

AA's point about the previews showing too much is fair, but as with all prequels there aren't going to be major surprises.

it's like being upset when Anakin turned bad.

Well, with a TV show of indeterminate length, as opposed to three prearranged movies, you don't know when things are going to happen. So it would be nice if the preview monkeys didn't give key stuff away. And I wasn't upset that they found the Batcave, or a (pre)Batcave; I was upset that the previews gave it away weeks in advance and then it turns out to be the season-ending cliffhanger. Stupid.

Not asking this to be a doosh or start something, but why do you watch the previews?

The show ends, i delete and never see another thing about it until I watch again next week.

This, I never watch a preview or commercial for anything if i already know I want to see it. Annoys me when previews get talked about in TV threads.

 

[larch]

Season 2 begins Monday night, but this episode is already available.

http://www.thedaretube.com/tv/gotham/season/2/episode/1

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I still have 12 episodes from last season on the DVR...worth watching or just delete and jump into season 2?

 

[larch]

I still have 12 episodes from last season on the DVR...worth watching or just delete and jump into season 2?

I would watch them. I think it got better as the season progressed.

There were some stories that were blah, but overall I think it was better.

 

[FUBAR]

I still have 12 episodes from last season on the DVR...worth watching or just delete and jump into season 2?

I would watch them. I think it got better as the season progressed.

There were some stories that were blah, but overall I think it was better.

watch but make it quick!

 

[FUBAR]

Season 2 begins Monday night, but this episode is already available.

http://www.thedaretube.com/tv/gotham/season/2/episode/1

doesn't work for me