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roadkill1292 said:
culdeus said:
Batard's piece went after the owners hardcore. Did not hold back. I mean the guy has some serious skins on the wall journalism wise, Simmons doesn't.
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LeBatard was also pretty critical of non-critical-thinking football fans in that piece. Non-critical-thinking football fans are ESPN's core audience. People who can't be bothered beyond calling for harsh discipline so they can get back to articles discussing their teams' third tight end.To his credit, Simmons has addressed this issue, mostly from a viewpoint that he's like most fans -- he just can't help himself. No matter what kind of awful things happen in the sport, he'll continue to watch.
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I normally don't give credit to LeBatard as a high-level thinker, but that's probably because his on-screen presence reminds me too much of Flounder from Animal House. I may have to check this one out.
 
Bruce Dickinson said:
roadkill1292 said:
culdeus said:
Batard's piece went after the owners hardcore. Did not hold back. I mean the guy has some serious skins on the wall journalism wise, Simmons doesn't.
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LeBatard was also pretty critical of non-critical-thinking football fans in that piece. Non-critical-thinking football fans are ESPN's core audience. People who can't be bothered beyond calling for harsh discipline so they can get back to articles discussing their teams' third tight end.To his credit, Simmons has addressed this issue, mostly from a viewpoint that he's like most fans -- he just can't help himself. No matter what kind of awful things happen in the sport, he'll continue to watch.
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I normally don't give credit to LeBatard as a high-level thinker, but that's probably because his on-screen presence reminds me too much of Flounder from Animal House. I may have to check this one out.
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Listen to his radio show/podcast. His persona there is about 180 degrees different than the show with his dad or his PTI appearances. His TV schtick is purely for TV.

 
Sammy3469 said:
Bruce Dickinson said:
roadkill1292 said:
culdeus said:
Batard's piece went after the owners hardcore. Did not hold back. I mean the guy has some serious skins on the wall journalism wise, Simmons doesn't.
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LeBatard was also pretty critical of non-critical-thinking football fans in that piece. Non-critical-thinking football fans are ESPN's core audience. People who can't be bothered beyond calling for harsh discipline so they can get back to articles discussing their teams' third tight end.To his credit, Simmons has addressed this issue, mostly from a viewpoint that he's like most fans -- he just can't help himself. No matter what kind of awful things happen in the sport, he'll continue to watch.
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I normally don't give credit to LeBatard as a high-level thinker, but that's probably because his on-screen presence reminds me too much of Flounder from Animal House. I may have to check this one out.
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Listen to his radio show/podcast. His persona there is about 180 degrees different than the show with his dad or his PTI appearances. His TV schtick is purely for TV.
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I'm intrigued. I'll check it out. Thanks! :thumbup:
 
I think Le Batard's column is pretty much on the mark.

I thought Simmons was right to go after Goodell on Rice, but he'd had a tough time not reverting back into homer mode with the Brady thing.

 
Jalen and Jacoby promised to discuss Simmons dismissal on their podcast. And pretty much did nothing but acknowledge it and moved on. Grantland clearly circling the wagons and going to make a go at it with Simmons. I hope they can make it. It's a daily stop for me, and I listen to a fair number of their podcasts.

 
Because of the high school breakup nature of the Simmons firing, ESPN now has a lot of incentive to make Grantland work without him. There's enough talent there to consistently produce great content.

 
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Jalen and Jacoby promised to discuss Simmons dismissal on their podcast. And pretty much did nothing but acknowledge it and moved on. Grantland clearly circling the wagons and going to make a go at it with Simmons. I hope they can make it. It's a daily stop for me, and I listen to a fair number of their podcasts.
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Yeah, that was terrible.

"You know we gotsta keep it real and talk about the obvious!!!!"

"Bill helped bring us altogether and is no longer with Grantland"

:mellow:

 
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Jalen and the other 3 have great relationships with each other and Webber won't associate with any of them. People think it was because The Timeout was such a traumatic life event for him, and despite all the success he went on to have, associating himself with the Fab Five brings all that back.

 
Regular listener to the BS Report and I just learned of this today. I was wondering why the podcast hadn't been updated in almost 3 weeks with the NBA playoffs and Mad Men ending... ooof

 
Ned Ryerson said:
Baloney Sandwich said:
Pretty interesting article about the money out there going the Glenn Beck route:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericjackson/2015/05/25/why-bill-simmons-would-be-crazy-not-to-go-over-the-top/
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I've been a fan for forever, and read everything he does.....and wouldn't dream of paying $10 a month to hear/read Simmons.
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Maybe not, but there are countless things YOU wouldn't pay for that thousands or millions of others would.

 
Mays and Barnwell NFL podcast was solely devoted to Under Siege 2 today. :loco:

Was listening to a Mad Men recap by a new duo last week and it turned into a serious comparison of Mad Men vs. Mad Max soley because of the "Mad" in the titles.

More Lowe Post is great though. Funny how Lowe is bewildered by Jeff Van Gundy.

JVG: Are we sure rest matters for NBA Players?

Lowe: :help:

 
The Noid said:
Simmons, Whitlock...Nate Silver better watch his back.
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The problem with these vanity sites is that it's ultimately about the guy who starts it. And the guys that want those sites have gigantic egos that eventually create problems. Silver seems somewhat les like that though, so his site may be ok.

 
Very interesting article in the WSJ journal today (google search: ESPN Tightens Its Belt as Pressure on It Mounts)

on the bind ESPN finds itself in overall with rising costs everywhere and diminishing subsribers. Makes it sound like Simmons (and Olbermann for that matter) never had a chance.

The specifics: they've lost almost 8 million subscribers since July 2011 and have seen SportsCenter ratings sag the past year. BTW they can activiate their out with SlingTV. The WSJ says to make the math work, if they want to do their own standalone streaming service they'd need to charge $30 a month to be revenue neutral and that cable systems would undercut them. Makes it sound like ESPN has some pretty big legacy revenue and cost problems.

 
I also saw some speculation that the NFL stuck it to ESPN for Simmons and Olbermann constantly bashing Goodell. NFL rejected their request for a Cowboys monday night game as well as giving them a meh schedule.

Take a look at the MNF lineup and draw your own conclusions.

 
Sammy3469 said:
Very interesting article in the WSJ journal today (google search: ESPN Tightens Its Belt as Pressure on It Mounts)

on the bind ESPN finds itself in overall with rising costs everywhere and diminishing subsribers. Makes it sound like Simmons (and Olbermann for that matter) never had a chance.

The specifics: they've lost almost 8 million subscribers since July 2011 and have seen SportsCenter ratings sag the past year. BTW they can activiate their out with SlingTV. The WSJ says to make the math work, if they want to do their own standalone streaming service they'd need to charge $30 a month to be revenue neutral and that cable systems would undercut them. Makes it sound like ESPN has some pretty big legacy revenue and cost problems.
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Other than their live sports (which they do exceptionally well) all of their products are crap. Their talk shows, sports center, their website is the worst and even that stupid magazine if it's still around.

 
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