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Great article in the Journal Sentinal this am, about the slot postion in GB, and why it is so important.

While it is not directly addressed in the article, it does a great job in explaining why Jennings did not lead the pack in recpt last year, and may well not this year.

Also addresses the Nelson/Jones issue, and why Driver might not be the leading reciever again this year.

In the West Coast offense, the slot receiver position is exalted, reserved only for wide receivers with the finest route-running ability, keenest hand-eye coordination and unquestioned courage.

Since Mike Holmgren brought the offense to the Green Bay Packers in 1992, the list of receivers who have claimed the territory can be counted on one hand:

Sterling Sharpe. Robert Brooks. Antonio Freeman. Donald Driver.

The position still has the 35-year-old Driver's influence all over it in 2010, but the exclusivity he once enjoyed no longer exists. Gradually, and with almost no fanfare, the spot is being opened up for others.

The big picture takeaway for me? Rodgers is the centerpiece of this offense, not Finley, not Driver, not Jennings. Rodgers, baring injury, is the Packer player that can reach number one in FF in his (respective) position. Not anyone else

 
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:thumbup: Thanks for sharing. This also adds a little more fuel to the fire that is the increasing value of Jordy Nelson.
 
The position still has the 35-year-old Driver's influence all over it in 2010, but the exclusivity he once enjoyed no longer exists. Gradually, and with almost no fanfare, the spot is being opened up for others.

The Packers' top four receivers - Driver, Greg Jennings, James Jones and Jordy Nelson - all possess skills coach Mike McCarthy would like to use as quarterback Aaron Rodgers becomes an accomplished practitioner of the West Coast offense. Throw in Jermichael Finley, a wide receiver in tight end's clothing, and the options are multiplied.

"It's not like one guy has one position anymore," Driver said. "They're starting to spread us around, give us all opportunity to get open. I've always played the slot. You've only got so many routes out of the slot, so guys (opponents) are like, 'OK, Driver's in the slot, this is what they're running.'

"Now they're saying, 'Drive, we want you to stay outside and catch balls out there and then move you to the slot and we'll switch you with Greg.' Then Jermichael goes wide, and I take his spot. There are a lot of options."
Thanks for posting, this was a very interesting article. It's clear that McCarthy wants to continue spreading the ball around, and you're right (the OP), this could bring down Driver's value somewhat.I thought your title was a bit misleading though. If anything, Jennings should benefit from spending more time in the slot, so I'm not sure how his value goes down. (see bold)

 
The position still has the 35-year-old Driver's influence all over it in 2010, but the exclusivity he once enjoyed no longer exists. Gradually, and with almost no fanfare, the spot is being opened up for others.

The Packers' top four receivers - Driver, Greg Jennings, James Jones and Jordy Nelson - all possess skills coach Mike McCarthy would like to use as quarterback Aaron Rodgers becomes an accomplished practitioner of the West Coast offense. Throw in Jermichael Finley, a wide receiver in tight end's clothing, and the options are multiplied.

"It's not like one guy has one position anymore," Driver said. "They're starting to spread us around, give us all opportunity to get open. I've always played the slot. You've only got so many routes out of the slot, so guys (opponents) are like, 'OK, Driver's in the slot, this is what they're running.'

"Now they're saying, 'Drive, we want you to stay outside and catch balls out there and then move you to the slot and we'll switch you with Greg.' Then Jermichael goes wide, and I take his spot. There are a lot of options."
Thanks for posting, this was a very interesting article. It's clear that McCarthy wants to continue spreading the ball around, and you're right (the OP), this could bring down Driver's value somewhat.I thought your title was a bit misleading though. If anything, Jennings should benefit from spending more time in the slot, so I'm not sure how his value goes down. (see bold)
I don't think his value goes down from last year - I just don't think it is as high as some people think for this year - He could well be the #2 WR in terms of receptions again on the Pack, because of how the ball gets spread around
 
The position still has the 35-year-old Driver's influence all over it in 2010, but the exclusivity he once enjoyed no longer exists. Gradually, and with almost no fanfare, the spot is being opened up for others.

The Packers' top four receivers - Driver, Greg Jennings, James Jones and Jordy Nelson - all possess skills coach Mike McCarthy would like to use as quarterback Aaron Rodgers becomes an accomplished practitioner of the West Coast offense. Throw in Jermichael Finley, a wide receiver in tight end's clothing, and the options are multiplied.

"It's not like one guy has one position anymore," Driver said. "They're starting to spread us around, give us all opportunity to get open. I've always played the slot. You've only got so many routes out of the slot, so guys (opponents) are like, 'OK, Driver's in the slot, this is what they're running.'

"Now they're saying, 'Drive, we want you to stay outside and catch balls out there and then move you to the slot and we'll switch you with Greg.' Then Jermichael goes wide, and I take his spot. There are a lot of options."
Thanks for posting, this was a very interesting article. It's clear that McCarthy wants to continue spreading the ball around, and you're right (the OP), this could bring down Driver's value somewhat.I thought your title was a bit misleading though. If anything, Jennings should benefit from spending more time in the slot, so I'm not sure how his value goes down. (see bold)
I don't think his value goes down from last year - I just don't think it is as high as some people think for this year - He could well be the #2 WR in terms of receptions again on the Pack, because of how the ball gets spread around
For ppr sure...for TD heavy leagues he should end up being the guy to have as far as WRs.
 
According to Rotoworld the Packers are going to use Finley some in the slot...

"Packers offensive coordinator Joe Philbin confirmed that Jermichael Finley will be used in the slot this season.

Donald Driver has been the Packers' primary slot receiver for awhile now, but Philbin is going to spread the work around this year. Getting Finley in the slot is a matchup nightmare for opposing secondaries and it's also one of Aaron Rodgers' favorite spots to throw to. The upside with Finley is limitless this year."

Finley is going to be a monster this year...do what you can to get him.

 
I believe the Packer offense is going to be a juggernaut this year. I don't think anyone will be disappointed if they draft Rodgers, Jennings, Driver, Finley or Grant. I kind of doubt that Nelson or Jones will put up any sort of consistent numbers.

My predictions:

Rodgers (4500/40)

Jennings (1200/10)

Driver (900/5)

Finley (1000/10)

Nelson (500/3)

Jones (400/3)

Grant (1500/10 combined)

Every skill position member of this offense has been on the roster between 3-12 years. i.e. they all know this offense thoroughly. They were derailed early last year by a leaky offensive line. Those issues have been addressed by bringing back RT Mark Tauscher, who stabilized the line a year ago, and drafting Brian Bulaga, who is looking very good by all accounts, and may start game 1 at LG.

The Packers have continuity and talent on offense this year, with a highly skilled QB leading the way. I'm not going to be afraid to take a Packer a round or two early this year.

 
Yeah, I'm not so sure. For a while I've thought Jennings was overrated in terms of fantasy just because of all the weapons and only one ball, but from what I'm seeing and reading, it sounds like the emergance of Finley could open up opportunities for Jennings. Finley is such a matchup nightmare that teams are going to have to put one of their better corners on him. You can't cover him with a LB or safety. If you follow the practice blogs, seemingly every 11 on 11 period starts the same: Rodgers to Finley for 15-20 yard gain.

The attention teams must devote to Finley should benifit all the WRs, but Jennings probably the most.

 
smackdaddies said:
I don't think his value goes down from last year - I just don't think it is as high as some people think for this year - He could well be the #2 WR in terms of receptions again on the Pack, because of how the ball gets spread around
Thanks for clarifying, that makes sense. (although I still think he'll lead the Pack in receptions & yards, with Finley possibly getting more TDs)
 
smackdaddies said:
Great article in the Journal Sentinal this am, about the slot postion in GB, and why it is so important.

While it is not directly addressed in the article, it does a great job in explaining why Jennings did not lead the pack in recpt last year, and may well not this year.

Also addresses the Nelson/Jones issue, and why Driver might not be the leading reciever again this year.

In the West Coast offense, the slot receiver position is exalted, reserved only for wide receivers with the finest route-running ability, keenest hand-eye coordination and unquestioned courage.

Since Mike Holmgren brought the offense to the Green Bay Packers in 1992, the list of receivers who have claimed the territory can be counted on one hand:

Sterling Sharpe. Robert Brooks. Antonio Freeman. Donald Driver.

The position still has the 35-year-old Driver's influence all over it in 2010, but the exclusivity he once enjoyed no longer exists. Gradually, and with almost no fanfare, the spot is being opened up for others.

The big picture takeaway for me? Rodgers is the centerpiece of this offense, not Finley, not Driver, not Jennings. Rodgers, baring injury, is the Packer player that can reach number one in FF in his (respective) position. Not anyone else
I don't agree at all. Finley and improved blocking will open up underneath routes and long receptions for everyone.While there is a lot of receivers to go aroud the same is true in New Orleans.

Last year Rodgers didn't have time to go to Jennings enough but that will change this year.

I like Jones better than Nelson too. They drafted him because he was good at getting separation in close and caught the ball well in traffic.

Regardless of who plays flanker the better players to go across the middle will get the pass in my opinion.

Yeah, I'm not so sure. For a while I've thought Jennings was overrated in terms of fantasy just because of all the weapons and only one ball, but from what I'm seeing and reading, it sounds like the emergance of Finley could open up opportunities for Jennings. Finley is such a matchup nightmare that teams are going to have to put one of their better corners on him. You can't cover him with a LB or safety. If you follow the practice blogs, seemingly every 11 on 11 period starts the same: Rodgers to Finley for 15-20 yard gain.

The attention teams must devote to Finley should benifit all the WRs, but Jennings probably the most.
Well said.

I don't trust the Journal reporters. They like bringing up controversies more than just reporting what is going on in practice.

 
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Pipes said:
According to Rotoworld the Packers are going to use Finley some in the slot..."Packers offensive coordinator Joe Philbin confirmed that Jermichael Finley will be used in the slot this season.Donald Driver has been the Packers' primary slot receiver for awhile now, but Philbin is going to spread the work around this year. Getting Finley in the slot is a matchup nightmare for opposing secondaries and it's also one of Aaron Rodgers' favorite spots to throw to. The upside with Finley is limitless this year."Finley is going to be a monster this year...do what you can to get him.
He's been in the slot and out wide all preseason and practice. He's been all over the field to confuse defenses. He may even start in the backfield.
 
I have to agree with cr8f when he says that the poor OL play was directly responsible for Rodgers not having the time to go to Jennings as often as he wanted to. Rodgers is a great QB and made the adjustments. Rodgers got sacked 50 times last year...50!!!! If the OL can play better, then I think you will also see Jennings' numbers improve as well.

 
I think the article has a lot of truth in it. I think picking who the top guy in any week for the Packers this year is going to be tough. Thats why Rodgers is the pick, because he will just about always be on one side of the passing TD.

That said, depending on how it goes next weekend one of my current plans is to use my remaining budget to aquire the whole GB passing game including the Nelson/Jones backups. Mix in with the keepers I have and I think it's a solid a bet as any to make the playoffs.

Manning Clark Wayne Garcon is going to be expensive

Rodgers Finley Jennings Driver can be had for less, or so I hope.

 
I kind of view the GB wrs and NO wr's in the same light (and even Indy with the exception of Garcon), they will both be very productive as units but their individual production will be more difficult to predict/rely on. I didn't really consciously think about it unitl just now but none of the wr's from either team is even on my radar of guys I'm targetting. I'm basically avoiding the both situations and it's likely that the Jennings, Colstons, etc. will be off the board before I'd feel comfortable grabbing them. Good article.

 
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I have to agree with cr8f when he says that the poor OL play was directly responsible for Rodgers not having the time to go to Jennings as often as he wanted to. Rodgers is a great QB and made the adjustments. Rodgers got sacked 50 times last year...50!!!! If the OL can play better, then I think you will also see Jennings' numbers improve as well.
Careful on the sack stats, they did make significant progress towards the end of the season.First nine games: 41 sacks

Last seven games: 9 sacks

Although Rodgers did hit the ground 5 times in the Cards game. Still got 4 TD's, however.

I'm all in on the Pack O this year.

 
I'm all over jumping on the Pack this year too. That being said, we know the centerpiece of consistency will be Rodgers, but where is his value? In a 12 man league that awards 6pts for all TDs, when does he offer true value? Mid to end of 1st round? 2nd round? When?

 
Based on this article, how do you downgrade Jennings? It seems to me he would become even more valuable due to the periodic move from outside receiver to the slot, the more productive position. In the past the slot position was manned exclusively by Driver. Now Jennings will get some opportunities to share in the bounty.

I agree with the post referring to Finley. Not that he will finish as TE1, but more that he has a real chance to be highly productive.

 
My take is the article has facts as to how the slot position is utilized but the comments on how the Packers will rotate their people is based on what coaches and players are saying rather than from observations made in camp and preseason. Perhaps I'm being too cynical, but I think the comments from the team that they are going to rotate people into the slot more is coach-speak for, Driver's getting old, lost a step and we need to work guys in to see what we have and figure out who our new slot receiver will be. My impression is when there's an aging stud at a position and coaches talk about moving them around to better use their versatility or for match-ups, then that vet isn't going to be around much longer. (It's a gut thing. Like when I smell patchouli, I get the feeling someone's carrying a bag of weed.)

My prediction is that the team is looking for a WR, Jordy Nelson (based on his mention in the article), to win the job from Driver. And Finely will get put in the slot a few plays a game, improving his stats. I don't think Jennings will get the slot because if that was going to happen it would have happened a season or two ago.

 
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Quick slant to the slot is not the staple play for this offense that it was with Favre.

Yet I am more interested in drafting Driver this season than in the last 2 years. Barring any fresh injury (obviously) he is in better shape than last year.

TDs are the difficult thing to predict for all these guys but I expect about 5 for Driver and 8 for Jennings. Jennings should be a great WR2.

 
My take is the article has facts as to how the slot position is utilized but the comments on how the Packers will rotate their people is based on what coaches and players are saying rather than from observations made in camp and preseason. Perhaps I'm being too cynical, but I think the comments from the team that they are going to rotate people into the slot more is coach-speak for, Driver's getting old, lost a step and we need to work guys in to see what we have and figure out who our new slot receiver will be. My impression is when there's an aging stud at a position and coaches talk about moving them around to better use their versatility or for match-ups, then that vet isn't going to be around much longer.

My prediction is that the team is looking for a WR, Jordy Nelson (based on his mention in the article), to win the job from Driver. And Finely will get put in the slot a few plays a game, improving his stats. I don't think Jennings will get the slot because if that was going to happen it would have happened a season or two ago.
I've heard literally nothing out of Green Bay to indicate that the coaches are looking for Jones or Nelson to take Driver's place in the starting lineup. Period. From all accounts, Driver continues to look great.
 
I'm all over jumping on the Pack this year too. That being said, we know the centerpiece of consistency will be Rodgers, but where is his value? In a 12 man league that awards 6pts for all TDs, when does he offer true value? Mid to end of 1st round? 2nd round? When?
I think this year one pretty much has to make a strategic decision (vs. value decision) to draft Rodgers. IMO, after the top 6 RB's and AJ are off the board, if not before, someone is going to jump on Rodgers in a 12-team, 6-pt TD league. He's rarely made it past pick 12 in the mocks I've done w/ that scoring system.ETA: Sorry for the mini-hijack.
 
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Their schedule looks brutal. I also don't like their playoff schedule, going to NE week 14 and at home vs gmen in week 15. Should be cold and snowy both weeks. I think I will pass unless somebody falls.

 
My take is the article has facts as to how the slot position is utilized but the comments on how the Packers will rotate their people is based on what coaches and players are saying rather than from observations made in camp and preseason. Perhaps I'm being too cynical, but I think the comments from the team that they are going to rotate people into the slot more is coach-speak for, Driver's getting old, lost a step and we need to work guys in to see what we have and figure out who our new slot receiver will be. My impression is when there's an aging stud at a position and coaches talk about moving them around to better use their versatility or for match-ups, then that vet isn't going to be around much longer.

My prediction is that the team is looking for a WR, Jordy Nelson (based on his mention in the article), to win the job from Driver. And Finely will get put in the slot a few plays a game, improving his stats. I don't think Jennings will get the slot because if that was going to happen it would have happened a season or two ago.
I've heard literally nothing out of Green Bay to indicate that the coaches are looking for Jones or Nelson to take Driver's place in the starting lineup. Period. From all accounts, Driver continues to look great.
The pack just gave Driver an extension and a bunch of cash. Any thought that Driver is not the #1/2 receiver on the team has no basis in reality.

That is not how a team deals with a player they think someone will replace.

 
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My take is the article has facts as to how the slot position is utilized but the comments on how the Packers will rotate their people is based on what coaches and players are saying rather than from observations made in camp and preseason. Perhaps I'm being too cynical, but I think the comments from the team that they are going to rotate people into the slot more is coach-speak for, Driver's getting old, lost a step and we need to work guys in to see what we have and figure out who our new slot receiver will be. My impression is when there's an aging stud at a position and coaches talk about moving them around to better use their versatility or for match-ups, then that vet isn't going to be around much longer.

My prediction is that the team is looking for a WR, Jordy Nelson (based on his mention in the article), to win the job from Driver. And Finely will get put in the slot a few plays a game, improving his stats. I don't think Jennings will get the slot because if that was going to happen it would have happened a season or two ago.
I've heard literally nothing out of Green Bay to indicate that the coaches are looking for Jones or Nelson to take Driver's place in the starting lineup. Period. From all accounts, Driver continues to look great.
The pack just gave Driver an extension and a bunch of cash. Any thought that Driver is not the #1/2 receiver on the team has no basis in reality.

That is not how a team deals with a player they think someone will replace.
That extension was signed in 2007. (ok, your link is to the current contract now) I dismiss your reality and substitute my own.

Rotoworld Aug. 10 - 10:14 pm et

Donald Driver's two-year extension averages just $4.5 million in 2011 and 2012, and doesn't include any guaranteed money in future years.

It's a terrific deal for the Pack. Driver received an initial roster bonus of $5M, but his future earnings are all non-guaranteed with a $4.1 million salary in 2011 and $5 million available in 2012, including a non-guaranteed $2.2M roster bonus. If Driver hits the wall at age 35 coming off dual knee surgeries, the Packers will be able to cut him next offseason without any monetary loss.

Coach Mike McCarthy indicated that a calf injury recently suffered by Donald Driver may be related to Driver's surgically repaired knees.

"I don't know what it is," said McCarthy. "It's just tight." Driver had to sit out Green Bay's Saturday scrimmage, and wasn't healthy enough to practice on Monday. It'll be a concern if the injury lingers deep into preseason.

Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/100319654.html

The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel believes Donald Driver's role on offense may decrease this season despite his contract extension.

The Journal-Sentinel has hinted at this on numerous occasions over the last few months. If the Packers want their 35-year-old receiver to last through the end of the extension (2012), they'll have to scale back Driver's snaps. Jordy Nelson and James Jones remain deserving of more playing time.

Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/100167979.html

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I should have clarified, that I predict the change is coming, may not happen during this season but next season he might be gone, depends on how Nelson or Jones develop. I think that's why the rotation at the slot position, the team is looking to see if they need to retain Driver or to go with a younger player. That's why Driver has a cut friendly salary for 2011 and beyond. Nelson and Jones should get a good bit of slot time this year and in 2011 (if Driver is still around) to see if the Pack will retain Driver.

 
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Driver's 2007 contract was going to end. This extension is new, signed this month.

No one here seems very concerned that James Jones had a knee injury in 2008 and hand injury in 2009.

 
Driver's 2007 contract was going to end. This extension is new, signed this month.

No one here seems very concerned that James Jones had a knee injury in 2008 and hand injury in 2009.
Yes, and it includes less guaranteed money and makes it easier for the Packers to cut him if they so desire
 
Less than what? There was no money beyond 2010 at all before this was signed.
And if the Packers choose so, there doesn't have to be $ after 2010.Cut friendly extension and plans to rotate the slot, to me it says the team is looking at their options. The extension was a smart move, if Driver shows no signs of slowing down from surgery, great, if he does or the youngsters outperform him, then he can be let go if they choose not to roster him or if Driver does not like being a backup and becomes a disruption.
 
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There's no guarantee that Jones wants to stick around or that GB would match other offers, though - his deal expires this year too.
:blackdot: With Jones's contract expiring after this season, that's another incentive for the team to get the two young guys more reps. The Pack needs to see if they should resign Jones and/or retain Driver. I think Jordy Nelson will win the job, as he seems on track to win the #3. Makes sense not to extend Jones yet till things shake out. Jones's agent would argue he's the future #2 if you try to extend him now. If the the Pack expects he'll be the #3 or #4 next season then they don't risk overpaying by waiting till the end of the season. If Jones were to have a great season, they'll have to shell out more, but I think the Pack has a rep for treating it's players well, so if Jones has a great season and demands #2 numbers then so be it. Better to pay his value if he does great than end up overpaying if he doesn't.

Rotoworld:

Jordy Nelson looks like he "will claim the No. 3 job outright," according to the Green Bay Post-Gazette.

Nelson is picking up more and more steam as camp goes on and most reports now have him ahead of James Jones. Although we still think Jones is the superior talent and Donald Driver's direct backup, there's no doubt that expectations need to tempered.

Source: Green Bay Press-Gazette

http://blogs.greenbaypressgazette.com/blog...-53-man-roster/

Jordy Nelson is listed directly behind Greg Jennings at split end on the Packers' preseason depth chart.

James Jones is directly behind Donald Driver, as he has been several years running. There's a slight movement for Nelson getting the call should Driver have a setback with his surgically repaired knees, but Jones is the most likely option to start at flanker. If Driver misses games, Jones would line up opposite Jennings with Nelson playing the slot in three-receiver formations.

Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/100368844.html

 
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I think the article has a lot of truth in it. I think picking who the top guy in any week for the Packers this year is going to be tough. Thats why Rodgers is the pick, because he will just about always be on one side of the passing TD.That said, depending on how it goes next weekend one of my current plans is to use my remaining budget to aquire the whole GB passing game including the Nelson/Jones backups. Mix in with the keepers I have and I think it's a solid a bet as any to make the playoffs.Manning Clark Wayne Garcon is going to be expensiveRodgers Finley Jennings Driver can be had for less, or so I hope.
I traded Colston this year because picking the guy there will be tough too. In Green Bay Finley is probably the guy to have (for receptions)but I like Jennings for big plays too. The tackles are healthy for the first time lately and Bulaga is trying for guard so he can be used wherever they need help.
 
Driver's 2007 contract was going to end. This extension is new, signed this month.

No one here seems very concerned that James Jones had a knee injury in 2008 and hand injury in 2009.
Well I think there are concerns based on draft position, but it seems OK now(the knee). Driver had 2 knee cleanouts this winter and is being drafted pretty high.

 
So far through two weeks - It's Rodgers you want to own, although Driver likely gave you the best ADP.

Player,Rec,Yds,Yds/Rec,Long,TD

Donald Driver 9,68,7.6,13,2

Jermichael Finley 8,150.18.8.34.0

Greg Jennings 8.118.14.8.32.1

James Jones 5 .42.8.4.30.1

Jordy Nelson 3 .33 .11.0 .15 .0

Brandon Jackson 3 ,22 ,7.3,13 .0

Quinn Johnson 1.11 .11.0.11.0

Donald Lee 1 .-1.-1.0 .-1. 0

 
Pleased with Don Driver's output. Just needs to be a little more involved between the 20s and he'll remain startable. With Grant out tough to see Driver's production going down much.

 
Targets through 2 games:

Greg Jennings 15

Jermichael Finley 12

Donald Driver 12

James Jones 10

Jordy Nelson 4

Two games do not make a trend, but I'm keeping an eye on James Jones. And if one of Jennings or Driver gets hurt, look out.

 
For all the talk about Finley, Driver is still the guy that Rodgers looks to when he needs to move the chain and especially in the red zone. He might not be as valuable between the 20s but he will score 8+ TDs this year without a doubt. Also, Jennings/Jones are not great red zone looks and Finley is drawing heavy coverage. DD will continue to reap the rewards.

 
Driver again will be a value gem.
I'm a huge Driver fan and I'm kicking myself for passing on him and taking Harvin as my WR3. I thought I could get Driver one round later but he was gone. Horrible move on my part. I chased upside and ignored proven production. Driver is still damn good.
 
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Driver again will be a value gem.
I'm a huge Driver fan and I'm kicking myself for passing on him and taking Harvin as my WR3. I thought I could get Driver one round later but he was gone. Horrible move on my part. I chased upside and ignored proven production. Driver is still damn good.
Did the same thing, only with Garcon instead of Harvin.
I would've done that too. I still like Garcon despite the slow start. I'm very close to bailing on Harvin.
 
Driver again will be a value gem.
I'm a huge Driver fan and I'm kicking myself for passing on him and taking Harvin as my WR3. I thought I could get Driver one round later but he was gone. Horrible move on my part. I chased upside and ignored proven production. Driver is still damn good.
Did the same thing, only with Garcon instead of Harvin.
I would've done that too. I still like Garcon despite the slow start. I'm very close to bailing on Harvin.
Long term I will stick with this (my #3 behind Moss and Bolding anyway).It was interesting though, I took Garcon, next guy took Harvin, next took Driver.
 
Driver again will be a value gem.
I'm a huge Driver fan and I'm kicking myself for passing on him and taking Harvin as my WR3. I thought I could get Driver one round later but he was gone. Horrible move on my part. I chased upside and ignored proven production. Driver is still damn good.
Yes but he could falloff the cliff at anytime. Look at this again week 12 ad see if he's still damn good. I'm not saying he isn't but look at Holt and Marvin Harrison. When they hit the skids they really dropped off.
 
Driver again will be a value gem.
I'm a huge Driver fan and I'm kicking myself for passing on him and taking Harvin as my WR3. I thought I could get Driver one round later but he was gone. Horrible move on my part. I chased upside and ignored proven production. Driver is still damn good.
Yes but he could falloff the cliff at anytime. Look at this again week 12 ad see if he's still damn good. I'm not saying he isn't but look at Holt and Marvin Harrison. When they hit the skids they really dropped off.
Anything can happen and Holt is a good example of a guy just losing it. Harrison suffered a major injury and that was it for him. Back to Driver, I just don't see a major drop-off happening during the season barring injury. He is in great shape, still runs great routes, has great hands and obviously is part of a very explosive passing offense. He has Rodgers' trust and if nothing else he can be a rock-solid move-the-chains WR who Rodgers also dials up in the Red Zone.I can't believe I passed on him. :thumbup:
 
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So far after 2 games, the WR/TE's have had 11 redzone looks. The breakdown is as follows:

Greg Jennings - 1

Donald Driver - 2

Jordy Nelson - 2

James Jones - 4

Jermichael Finley - 1

Donald Lee - 1

Looks like James Jones is seeing a good amount of Redzone looks.

 
I chose Driver over Crabtree (my supposed #2) and I do not regret it one bit. Driver will not be a monster but he will give consistency in the WR2/3 slot if needed which is often a spot that lacks consistency.

 
MNTom said:
So far after 2 games, the WR/TE's have had 11 redzone looks. The breakdown is as follows:Greg Jennings - 1Donald Driver - 2Jordy Nelson - 2James Jones - 4Jermichael Finley - 1Donald Lee - 1Looks like James Jones is seeing a good amount of Redzone looks.
Jones blew two catches against the bills - one in the end zone that he dropped (would of been a great catch, but it was in his hands), the other he came down one foot out of bounds. Jones is a good reciever, but he is not a star. He will get looks because he is covered by the 3/4th best d backs. The comment at the game yesterday from my son was Driver looked good, and Finley, but not to many others
 
cr8f said:
packersfan said:
Todem said:
Driver again will be a value gem.
I'm a huge Driver fan and I'm kicking myself for passing on him and taking Harvin as my WR3. I thought I could get Driver one round later but he was gone. Horrible move on my part. I chased upside and ignored proven production. Driver is still damn good.
Yes but he could falloff the cliff at anytime. Look at this again week 12 ad see if he's still damn good. I'm not saying he isn't but look at Holt and Marvin Harrison. When they hit the skids they really dropped off.
:shrug:
 
I drafted Jones as a flier but with him being the 4th receiving option after Jennings, Finley, and Driver, I am considering dropping/trading him for someone like Walter who is the number 2 option and at worst 3rd. Jones, though talented, won't put up consistent numbers unless somone else gets injured and starting him is a crapshoot.

 
The targets that Jones got yesterday were an aberration. By the end of the season, it will be Jennings and Finley in the lead by a fair amount. Pretty confident in saying Jennings will finish between 5-10th and Finley will be a top 5 TE (assuming good health for all involved.) Jennings is the best WR the Packers have and Finley is a talent at TE and will steal targets from Driver, Jones and Nelson over the course of the season.

My prediction on targets:

Jennings 140

Finley 110

Driver 95

Jones 55

Nelson 40

 

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