Greg Jennings will be the one traded, not James Jones (1 Viewer)

[BallparkFrank]

Why is Jordy Nelson considered an elite WR here but Jennings is not? I suppose I can be convinced, but I'm definitely not there yet.

 

[David Yudkin]

To disregard having two potential HOF QB's throwing to him is ignorant.

I guess Jerry Rice was average and playing with two HOFers is what made him good. Obviously I am not being serious, but all we have to evaluate Jennings by is his career in GB. He hasn't played anywhere else.

Thinking outside of the box is frowned upon?

Thinking in or outside the box is encouraged. But I suspect if we reshuffled the deck and put players on all different teams, we would get completely different results and numbers for all of them.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Yes, he has had great QBs, but he is also not being force fed the ball. The guy has the most 40+ yard catches in the NFL since 2007. His average yards per catch is almost always at the top of the league. His targets per game are noticeably lower than the "elite" receivers. For example, in 2010, Jennings had only 125 total targets. That's 7.8 targets a game to produce top 5 WR numbers. Jennings is a lot better than people here think.

In the same regard: Does he have higher quality targets vs most other WRs? Yes, Rodgers accuracy is elite.Does he have a QB capable of reading coverages to allow bigger plays to happen? Yes, Rodgers is very good at this.Donald Driver had 70+ receptions and 1,000+ yards in 7 of 8 seasons with Favre/Rodgers, was he ever considered a top tier WR? No

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

To disregard having two potential HOF QB's throwing to him is ignorant.

I guess Jerry Rice was average and playing with two HOFers is what made him good. Obviously I am not being serious, but all we have to evaluate Jennings by is his career in GB. He hasn't played anywhere else.

Thinking outside of the box is frowned upon?

Thinking in or outside the box is encouraged. But I suspect if we reshuffled the deck and put players on all different teams, we would get completely different results and numbers for all of them.

Cute

 

[Fubared]

When was the last time a top tier player at any position was traded once the season started?

He wasn't "top tier" at the time, but Marshawn Lynch is the only guy that comes to mind off the top of my head.

Jennings is not now and never was "top tier"

This is hogwash. There are 160 WRs in the league, closer to 200 if you include practice squad players. There are not 15 more talented WRs in the league, and if you're in the top 10% then you are certainly top-tier. I am baffled at how underrated Jennings is on these boards. No, he's not Megatron. No, he's not Julio. No, he can't take defenders 1v3 or jump 20 feet into the air. But he's still one of the top 10% of WRs in this league.

calvin, jones, fitz, green, marshall, white, aj, nicks, nelson, harvin, bryant, steve smith, colston, vjax, wayne, bowe, d thomasall guys I think have more receiving talent than jennings, and would post etter #s than jennings on GB

Fixed, enough said.

 

[Soulfly3]

When was the last time a top tier player at any position was traded once the season started?

He wasn't "top tier" at the time, but Marshawn Lynch is the only guy that comes to mind off the top of my head.

Jennings is not now and never was "top tier"

This is hogwash. There are 160 WRs in the league, closer to 200 if you include practice squad players. There are not 15 more talented WRs in the league, and if you're in the top 10% then you are certainly top-tier. I am baffled at how underrated Jennings is on these boards. No, he's not Megatron. No, he's not Julio. No, he can't take defenders 1v3 or jump 20 feet into the air. But he's still one of the top 10% of WRs in this league.

calvin, jones, fitz, green, marshall, white, aj, nicks, nelson, harvin, bryant, steve smith, colston, vjax, wayne, bowe, d thomasall guys I think have more receiving talent than jennings, and would post etter #s than jennings on GB

Fixed, enough said.

I can see the argument to strike some of them out.But saying that Jennings is a more talented WR than Nicks, Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne or even Dwayne Bowe, is preposterous.

 

[sho nuff]

Being a better WRs is not just about talent.

 

[Samuel L Bronkowitz]

Packer beat writer seems to think similarly - My link

Green Bay - If the Packers are as convinced as I am that this is Greg Jennings' final season in Green Bay, Ted Thompson should do all he can to attract fair market value and move him before the Oct. 30 trading deadline.

A confluence of factors almost all suggest that the Packers, as painful as such a decision would be, would be wise to deal one of their elite players.

As a championship-caliber team, one would think that the Packers should be doing all they can to win another Super Bowl this season.

In reality, keeping Jennings would just be a quick fix. And, assuming Jennings shrugs off his alarming rash of injuries and plays back to his Pro Bowl level, the Packers would benefit immensely from his presence this season.

But general managers, unlike coaches, are paid to think long term. Trading Jennings would be the kind of bold stroke that Thompson generally has been averse to making, but if handled properly could keep Green Bay in the Super Bowl hunt for years.

Talks with Eugene Parker, the agent for Jennings, have gone nowhere and, in all likelihood, aren't going to go anywhere. For a variety of reasons, the Packers can't pay Jennings what he wants and probably deserves, and no one should expect him to settle for less.

Like decision-makers across the league, Thompson, negotiator Russ Ball and key members of the personnel department discuss these kinds of scenarios many times over before decisions are made.

They have to know that bringing Jennings back just isn't in the cards.

Jennings, whose expiring contract averages $9.2 million and ranks ninth among wide receivers, should want considerably more than the free-agent deal Vincent Jackson signed in March with Tampa Bay that averaged $11.1 million. He's better than Jackson.

He might be eyeing more closely the $16.1 million that Larry Fitzgerald averages to rank a close second at the position to Detroit's Calvin Johnson. Parker negotiated Fitzgerald's extension with Arizona a year ago.

The Packers simply can't do that.

If Jennings is 1-a on their depth chart, then Jordy Nelson is 1-b. Twelve months ago, Ball got Nelson signed to a three-year extension averaging $4.2 million. As unassuming as Nelson might be, no team can have one veteran of comparable value making three times another veteran at the same position.

If the Packers did re-sign Jennings for, say, $13 million per year, the end result probably would be the sacrificing of a good younger player in free agency.

Clay Matthews and B.J. Raji, both 26, will be up after the 2014 season. The Packers would like to extend them during the next off-season as well as Aaron Rodgers, whose deal expires in March 2015.

It's hard to project how these players will have performed by season's end, but Marshall Newhouse, Morgan Burnett and Jermichael Finley all would become unrestricted in March 2014 as well.

Presently, the Packers rank 16th in salary-cap room at $6.7 million. It's the tightest they've been in years, and with the cap not expected to increase much, they figure to be even tighter a year from now.

Another reason the Packers can't go all in on Jennings is their abundance at wide receiver.

Sure, they could place the franchise-player tag on Jennings in March, but the cap charge for that would be about $10 million and would do nothing to ease the logjam at the position and at the negotiating table.

Thursday night at Lambeau Field, the Chicago Bears are in town for a rivalry game against a fellow NFC North contender and Jennings isn't expected to play.

Late in the fourth quarter against San Francisco, he was running a vertical route and suffered a groin injury.

Injuries have never been part of the equation with Jennings. He's proved time after time that he can take a hit, avoid kill shots and play hurt.

But now, with his 29th birthday approaching next week, Jennings can't stay on the field. Of the last three games that he's played, he hasn't been able to finish even one.

Jennings suffered a sprained medial collateral knee ligament in mid-December against Oakland and sat out three games. He returned for the playoff game against the Giants but then was able to play just two of the final 23 snaps because of a rib injury.

Less than a week into training camp, Jennings experienced headaches after taking a hit in practice, had to leave the intrasquad scrimmage two days later after absorbing another blow and sat out the next 2½ weeks with a concussion. It was the second concussion of his career; the first came against Arizona in August 2009.

At 5 feet 11 inches and 198 pounds, Jennings was the second-smallest wide receiver on the training-camp roster. As resilient as Jennings has been, the Packers and most other teams prefer more size at the position.

It truly is a big man's game. What's happening to Jennings makes the durability of Donald Driver, who is about the same size as Jennings but eight years older, all the more remarkable.

In the opener, Mike McCarthy basically used Jennings in the slot as his new Driver. Out of 63 snaps, Jennings lined up alone to a side only eight times.

No one can run a more crisp 15-yard comeback pattern than Jennings. His ability to get on top of cornerbacks and make stunning adjustments on take-off routes is reflected in his 30 receptions for 40 or more yards since 2007, an NFL best.

But against San Francisco, almost all those opportunities went to Nelson and James Jones.

From the slot on Sunday, Jennings made four of his five receptions that totaled 34 yards. The only ball he caught outside was a quick glance that Rodgers converted from a called run.

For whatever the reason, Jennings didn't seem comfortable in close quarters ducking the 49ers' headhunting collection of inside linebackers and safeties. It's not easy work, as Driver can attest.

Jennings carried the offense in 2010 after Finley blew out his knee in Game 5 and before Nelson caught fire in late December and the playoffs. He was equally special last year until the knee injury.

Besides injury, the only other red flag in 2011 was his career-low average of 4.04 yards after the catch. His average was 6.53 as recently as 2009 and then 4.91 in '10.

If Jennings were to walk in free agency, the Packers could bank on receiving a compensatory selection in the 2014 draft. The highest compensatory pick awarded since 1996 has been the 91st pick at the end of the third round.

Not only should the Packers be able to attract more handsome compensation in a trade, it would be their prerogative to have the pick or picks come to them in 2013 instead of waiting a year.

In recent years, the Packers settled for compensatory picks for the likes of Aaron Kampman, Cullen Jenkins, Scott Wells and Matt Flynn. Jennings is a better player than any of them.

Could the Packers obtain a first-round draft choice for Jennings at some point in the next seven weeks?

"Everybody will posture as high as they can get," an executive in personnel said. "But I would think Green Bay would be comfortable taking a second-round pick. It's much better to get something for him than just let him go in free agency.

"I certainly would be comfortable with a two. Pushing 30. Injury stuff. Has had a little bit of a slow start. He's looking for a lot of money so people will say, 'I have to pay this amount of money; I don't know if I want to give up the one and the money.'"

Before a deal can be completed, the Packers would have to give Parker permission to negotiate a new contract with the other team.

The last wide receiver to fetch a first-round draft choice was Roy Williams at the trading deadline in 2008. When Detroit GM Martin Mayhew extracted first-, third- and sixth-round picks from Jerry Jones of Dallas and later used the top pick to draft tight end Brandon Pettigrew, it was the start of the Lions' rebirth.

At the time, Williams was 26. Deion Branch was 27 in September 2006 when Bill Belichick stole a first-round pick from Seattle's Mike Holmgren.

In 2005, the Vikings gained a first from Oakland for Randy Moss, 27. In 2003, the Bills peddled Peerless Price, 26, to Atlanta for a first.

Joey Galloway, 28, moved from Seattle to Dallas in 2000 for two firsts. Two months later, 27-year-old Keyshawn Johnson went from the Jets to the Buccaneers for two firsts as well.

Among the wide-receiver trades involving less than first-round compensation were Brandon Marshall (two thirds) in 2012, Anquan Boldin (third and fourth) and Marshall (two seconds) in '10, Chris Chambers (second) in '07, Javon Walker (second) in '06, and Justin McCareins (second), Terrell Owens (second) and Keenan McCardell (third, sixth) in '04.

Almost every team in the league would like to have a thoroughbred such as Jennings, whose value is only enhanced by his unselfishness and high character.

The most logical landing spots would be Miami, Buffalo, Cleveland, Indianapolis and Oakland in the AFC and Carolina, Seattle and St. Louis in the NFC.

Bereft of talent at the position, Dolphins coach Joe Philbin always has spoken of Jennings in glowing terms and has extra picks in the second, third, sixth and seventh rounds for 2013.

The Rams have an additional first-round selection.

It isn't Thompson's nature to act prematurely. He will utilize Jennings, assuming the groin injury isn't problematic, and evaluate what life on offense would be without him.

A depth chart of Nelson, Jones, Randall Cobb, Driver and Jarrett Boykin still would be the envy of some teams. Diondre Borel is back on the practice squad, and as well as the Packers have drafted at wide receiver, a contributing player could be found in the fourth or fifth rounds come April.

Using compensation for Jennings, compensatory choices for Wells and Flynn and picks from their full draft list, the Packers can go about replacing aging Charles Woodson and Ryan Pickett on defense and adding some more physical players.

Meanwhile, Jennings can continue to build on a career elsewhere that, barring injury, really should have no limitations.

Perhaps Thompson will refuse to disrupt the offense and, with it, Rodgers' close relationship with Jennings. Maybe he just can't part with Jennings, the jewel of his second draft class.

If so, the Packers' future just won't be as bright.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

This from RW:

>>>...Jennings couldn’t survive Green Bay’s Week 1 loss to the 49ers without pulling his groin. Although he’s supposedly “50-50” to play, Jennings’ latest ailment will likely hold him out of tonight’s tilt with the Bears.

It’s a troubling trend that grows even more troubling when you consider it’s really been four games, four injuries for Jennings. He suffered a concussion in the Packers’ ”Family Night Scrimmage” to kick off camp.

That’s a heck of a lot of injuries in one nine-month span for a soon-to-be 29-year-old receiver who hadn’t missed a game since 2007 until last season.

So is it a fluke? Bad luck meets the trials of aging? The beginning of the end?

There’s no real way to know, but there is one thing to know: it might not matter with regards to Jennings’ role in the Packers offense.

There’s already mounting evidence Jennings has been surpassed by Jordy Nelson as the Packers’ No. 1 receiver, and the team is clearly infatuated with second-year pro Randall Cobb. ... <<<

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/41365/77/jettison-jennings

I've been trying to trade for Jennings at a discount. - is this even a good idea at this point?

And he could traded?

 

[display name]

This from RW:>>>...Jennings couldn’t survive Green Bay’s Week 1 loss to the 49ers without pulling his groin. Although he’s supposedly “50-50” to play, Jennings’ latest ailment will likely hold him out of tonight’s tilt with the Bears.It’s a troubling trend that grows even more troubling when you consider it’s really been four games, four injuries for Jennings. He suffered a concussion in the Packers’ ”Family Night Scrimmage” to kick off camp.That’s a heck of a lot of injuries in one nine-month span for a soon-to-be 29-year-old receiver who hadn’t missed a game since 2007 until last season.So is it a fluke? Bad luck meets the trials of aging? The beginning of the end?There’s no real way to know, but there is one thing to know: it might not matter with regards to Jennings’ role in the Packers offense.There’s already mounting evidence Jennings has been surpassed by Jordy Nelson as the Packers’ No. 1 receiver, and the team is clearly infatuated with second-year pro Randall Cobb. ... <<<http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/41365/77/jettison-jenningsI've been trying to trade for Jennings at a discount. - is this even a good idea at this point?And he could traded?

All talk of trading Jennings is just media frenzy. They need something to write about so they start the drum beat. Why would they trade their best receiver when they are trying to win a Super Bowl this season?http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000061851/article/should-green-bay-packers-weigh-greg-jennings-trade?module=HP11_headline_stackThis video is comical. First they say that Nelson has clearly passed Jennings as the #1 receiver. Nelson only outproduced Jennings last year because Jennings got hurt. Prior to the injury Jennings was the more productive guy.Then some other guy chimes in that Donald Driver isn't getting younger and won't be around forever and so they shouldn't trade Jennings. Does he realize Driver is basically irrelevant to this topic at this point?

 

[SameSongNDance]

This from RW:>>>...Jennings couldn’t survive Green Bay’s Week 1 loss to the 49ers without pulling his groin. Although he’s supposedly “50-50” to play, Jennings’ latest ailment will likely hold him out of tonight’s tilt with the Bears.It’s a troubling trend that grows even more troubling when you consider it’s really been four games, four injuries for Jennings. He suffered a concussion in the Packers’ ”Family Night Scrimmage” to kick off camp.That’s a heck of a lot of injuries in one nine-month span for a soon-to-be 29-year-old receiver who hadn’t missed a game since 2007 until last season.So is it a fluke? Bad luck meets the trials of aging? The beginning of the end?There’s no real way to know, but there is one thing to know: it might not matter with regards to Jennings’ role in the Packers offense.There’s already mounting evidence Jennings has been surpassed by Jordy Nelson as the Packers’ No. 1 receiver, and the team is clearly infatuated with second-year pro Randall Cobb. ... <<<http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/41365/77/jettison-jenningsI've been trying to trade for Jennings at a discount. - is this even a good idea at this point?And he could traded?

All talk of trading Jennings is just media frenzy. They need something to write about so they start the drum beat. Why would they trade their best receiver when they are trying to win a Super Bowl this season?

Yeah, I feel as if it's highly unlikely. Jones having an unusually high snap count the other night was sketchy, I will admit.God forbid Jennings gets traded to someone like MIA though, if Marshall couldn't thrive, Jennings definitely wouldn't.

 

[display name]

This from RW:>>>...Jennings couldn’t survive Green Bay’s Week 1 loss to the 49ers without pulling his groin. Although he’s supposedly “50-50” to play, Jennings’ latest ailment will likely hold him out of tonight’s tilt with the Bears.It’s a troubling trend that grows even more troubling when you consider it’s really been four games, four injuries for Jennings. He suffered a concussion in the Packers’ ”Family Night Scrimmage” to kick off camp.That’s a heck of a lot of injuries in one nine-month span for a soon-to-be 29-year-old receiver who hadn’t missed a game since 2007 until last season.So is it a fluke? Bad luck meets the trials of aging? The beginning of the end?There’s no real way to know, but there is one thing to know: it might not matter with regards to Jennings’ role in the Packers offense.There’s already mounting evidence Jennings has been surpassed by Jordy Nelson as the Packers’ No. 1 receiver, and the team is clearly infatuated with second-year pro Randall Cobb. ... <<<http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/41365/77/jettison-jenningsI've been trying to trade for Jennings at a discount. - is this even a good idea at this point?And he could traded?

All talk of trading Jennings is just media frenzy. They need something to write about so they start the drum beat. Why would they trade their best receiver when they are trying to win a Super Bowl this season?

Yeah, I feel as if it's highly unlikely. Jones having an unusually high snap count the other night was sketchy, I will admit.God forbid Jennings gets traded to someone like MIA though, if Marshall couldn't thrive, Jennings definitely wouldn't.

All reports coming into the season have been highly positive on Jones. I don't think it has anything to do with Jennings getting traded. More likely its just that Jones is better this year than last and Driver is simply not able to keep up with the younger guys anymore.

 

[TwinTurbo]

When was the last time a top tier player at any position was traded once the season started?

He wasn't "top tier" at the time, but Marshawn Lynch is the only guy that comes to mind off the top of my head.

Jennings is not now and never was "top tier"

What is your definition of top tier? Jennings has been one of the best WR in the game over the last few years. If he was traded, he would be WR1a or 1b on most teams in the league.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

When was the last time a top tier player at any position was traded once the season started?

He wasn't "top tier" at the time, but Marshawn Lynch is the only guy that comes to mind off the top of my head.

Jennings is not now and never was "top tier"

What is your definition of top tier? Jennings has been one of the best WR in the game over the last few years. If he was traded, he would be WR1a or 1b on most teams in the league.

Go back and read this thread, your question will be answered

 

[doowain]

Anyone notice how pedestrian the GB offense has looked (tonight and in the preseason) without Jennings?

Good thing they don't need that fringe 2nd tier WR. Pfffftttt.

 

[Yolkix]

Sure as hell looks like they could use Greg to me.. outside of Jordy they had no reliable receivers tonight.

 

[bumpman]

We also saw tonight the big difference between precise route running, and half-### routes. Right, James Jones?

Edited to mention the super-elite Marshall and his super-elite routes and hands as well.

 

[statman]

James Jones is just atrocious

 

[atcdav]

Like everything else, its about the money. i 100% agree. Jones sucks and with stay a packer

 

[zoonation]

Tonight's game should put this ridiculous speculation to rest. GB needs Jenning, who is clearly their best receiver. He opens everything uo for those other guys, including Nelson. They struggled to move the ball without him.

People around here are hilarious.

 

[Apple Juice]

Loved Rogers blowing up after that ridiculous route by Jones.

For some offenses, having a physical freak at receiver isn't nearly as beneficial as having one who runs precise routes, has the mental capacity to do what is required and is able to find ways to get open. Guys like Jennings and Wayne haven't gotten credit over the years because of who was throwing to them and because they don't look like Fitzgerald or CJ, but they are great RECEIVERS and possess skills just as unique and impossible to teach as the big guys.

I don't know what is going on with Jennings and his contract and this string of injuries, but I can guarantee Rogers understands how valuable he is.

 

[KingPrawn]

Loved Rogers blowing up after that ridiculous route by Jones.

For some offenses, having a physical freak at receiver isn't nearly as beneficial as having one who runs precise routes, has the mental capacity to do what is required and is able to find ways to get open. Guys like Jennings and Wayne haven't gotten credit over the years because of who was throwing to them and because they don't look like Fitzgerald or CJ, but they are great RECEIVERS and possess skills just as unique and impossible to teach as the big guys.

I don't know what is going on with Jennings and his contract and this string of injuries, but I can guarantee Rogers understands how valuable he is.

Jennings had a groin injury tonight and wanted to play. Packers held him out. The Packers are very, very conservative when it comes to injuries and always err on the side of having the player forthe long term. I wouldn't worry about Jennings injuries.James Jones' play tonight made Greg Jennings some money.

 

[Shutout]

James Jones should be cut, not traded or kept. shew.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

As amny have said the pack needs Jennings to really run that O.

jamesJones is meh

Cobb is still a bit too raw

Finley has poor hands and fumbles too much

 

[Shutout]

As amny have said the pack needs Jennings to really run that O.

jamesJones is meh

Cobb is still a bit too raw

Finley has poor hands and fumbles too much

I know Peanut Tillman has finley's number when it comes to forced fumbles but how often does Finley atually fumble? I don't know the answer but I don't recall from watching the games that I ever feel like he's any more of a fumble risk than most players.I think the poor hands is kind of overblown. He was always said to have very good hands and then last year he did have issues and it seems like people have piled on that. Roddy White actually had more drops than Finley last year (of course, more targets also but point being I don;t hear anyone crucifying White for his 14 (?) or so drops the way Finley is criticised). Last week, he had a drop he absolutely should have caught and he had one that was difficult at best. Last night, he had one he should have had and he leaned and scooped a very difficult one (did last week too). I guess people will think of it as they will but based on the first two games this year, I haven't seen finley stand out in the drops department any more than any of his teammates. He definitely wasn't as bad as Brandon Marshal last night. It seems like for the most part (not all, but a good number) a lot of finley's drops are tough situations when he has went into his route and is switching back the other way, crossing the defender. It seems like you always see him with his feet one way, his hips turning and his arms on the other side, like he is trying to go back to where he was just a second ago trying to shake a defender. Of course, that could be all on him OR that could be himtrying to work himself open as Rodgers is coming back from his initial read(s). In the end, a drop is a drop, but I don't think its an indication of ability (or lack of).

 

[sho nuff]

IMO...the end of the year will go something like this (or before the end)

Jennings resigned

Jones maybe kept since his price is low...but could see him let go easily...

Finley traded or let go (his 2 year contract contained 0 guaranteed money I believe...so they lose nothing in this)

Driver??? Probably let go.

We saw what I and many others have said last night. Jennings is a very important piece to this offense. People can think WRs are just interchangable because of the offense or QB...but some guys simply go beyond some combine numbers and know how to play the game. IMO...Jennings is one of those guys.

 

[meatwad1]

There is no chance of Jennings resigning...Rodgers is due at least 40 million and Clay Steriods is not that far behind that.

Everybody is wringing their hands about the Packer offense, but in reality they just played two of the top five defenses at pretty much full strength. After they play Seattle next week, which also has a great D, you will see how much they need Jennings. The answer will be not so much.

 

[sho nuff]

There is no chance of Jennings resigning...Rodgers is due at least 40 million and Clay Steriods is not that far behind that. Everybody is wringing their hands about the Packer offense, but in reality they just played two of the top five defenses at pretty much full strength. After they play Seattle next week, which also has a great D, you will see how much they need Jennings. The answer will be not so much.

I don't think you really watched last night...or last year against KC without Jennings.

 

[meatwad1]

IMO...the end of the year will go something like this (or before the end)Jennings resignedJones maybe kept since his price is low...but could see him let go easily...Finley traded or let go (his 2 year contract contained 0 guaranteed money I believe...so they lose nothing in this)Driver??? Probably let go.We saw what I and many others have said last night. Jennings is a very important piece to this offense. People can think WRs are just interchangable because of the offense or QB...but some guys simply go beyond some combine numbers and know how to play the game. IMO...Jennings is one of those guys.

The packers were not able to move the ball last night? I thought they looked ok against a great D. Also, let Finley go? lol!!!!!! That isn't going to happen....he will have to have many, many more bad games to get let go.There is no way Jennings resigns, and there is probably little chance he is traded. He will play out the year and it will end with us kicking some AFC teams ### in the Super Bowl.

 

[meyerj31]

How is this thread still going? They're not trading Jennings, and I would be shocked if they franchise tagged him (that would make him the highest paid player for 2013 on the team), especially when they have no interest in signing him to a long-term deal. The Packers just don't operate like that, IMO. Saddens me, but this will be Jennings last year as a Packer.

Clay and Raji are both due extensions (and will get them) and they'll work a deal with Rodgers sometime in the next year to make him a Packer for life, so there's just no room to pay a WR that kind of money when the WR core is so deep. I mean, after Nelson, Finley, and Cobb, how many talented guys do you need to catch passes? Those latter WRs are up against 3rd/4th/5th cornerbacks every week.

 

[sho nuff]

IMO...the end of the year will go something like this (or before the end)Jennings resignedJones maybe kept since his price is low...but could see him let go easily...Finley traded or let go (his 2 year contract contained 0 guaranteed money I believe...so they lose nothing in this)Driver??? Probably let go.We saw what I and many others have said last night. Jennings is a very important piece to this offense. People can think WRs are just interchangable because of the offense or QB...but some guys simply go beyond some combine numbers and know how to play the game. IMO...Jennings is one of those guys.

The packers were not able to move the ball last night? I thought they looked ok against a great D. Also, let Finley go? lol!!!!!! That isn't going to happen....he will have to have many, many more bad games to get let go.There is no way Jennings resigns, and there is probably little chance he is traded. He will play out the year and it will end with us kicking some AFC teams ### in the Super Bowl.

One offensive TD.Stalled drives again just past the 50.They have played a great defense...and one very good one. But this is a high powered offense that has struggled too much. And big time without Jennings.Finley signed a 2 year deal with no guarantees... They cut or trade him and do nothing but gain that cap space.What has he shown to be retained?

 

[sho nuff]

How is this thread still going? They're not trading Jennings, and I would be shocked if they franchise tagged him (that would make him the highest paid player for 2013 on the team), especially when they have no interest in signing him to a long-term deal. The Packers just don't operate like that, IMO. Saddens me, but this will be Jennings last year as a Packer.Clay and Raji are both due extensions (and will get them) and they'll work a deal with Rodgers sometime in the next year to make him a Packer for life, so there's just no room to pay a WR that kind of money when the WR core is so deep. I mean, after Nelson, Finley, and Cobb, how many talented guys do you need to catch passes? Those latter WRs are up against 3rd/4th/5th cornerbacks every week.

Did you watch? Obviously they need someone to catch passes.And I could easily see them tagging him to hold on to the offense for one more year.Until last night...Raji has not looked like a guy deserving a big contract...

 

[meatwad1]

There is no chance of Jennings resigning...Rodgers is due at least 40 million and Clay Steriods is not that far behind that. Everybody is wringing their hands about the Packer offense, but in reality they just played two of the top five defenses at pretty much full strength. After they play Seattle next week, which also has a great D, you will see how much they need Jennings. The answer will be not so much.

I don't think you really watched last night...or last year against KC without Jennings.

I watched last night. I saw some great plays made by the Bears D. They have probably 4 guys who are at an all pro level. I also saw our 'team' kick the living ##### out of the Bears, a playoff team, without Jennings playing a single snap. Were mistakes made by some of the other wrs? Sure, but what is to say Jennings would have made those tough catches or wouldn't have fumbled when hit like a battering ram?Also, Jennings played last week and was targeted 9 times and converted 5 of those for 34 yards. What happened there? If he was such an asset, he would have pulled a Megatron and took over the game. Lord knows we needed it. Our bottom line is Rodgers. We will be able to sign a cheapie wr and replace the value he has no problem. My last point is this...if Graham Harrell is our qb, is Jennings worth 13 mil a year? I would say he isn't even worth 5 if Graham Harrel is our qb, so it is pointless to tie up valuable resources in a person who is easily replaced.

 

[Hybrid]

When was the last time a top tier player at any position was traded once the season started?

He wasn't "top tier" at the time, but Marshawn Lynch is the only guy that comes to mind off the top of my head.

Jennings is not now and never was "top tier"

This is hogwash. There are 160 WRs in the league, closer to 200 if you include practice squad players. There are not 15 more talented WRs in the league, and if you're in the top 10% then you are certainly top-tier. I am baffled at how underrated Jennings is on these boards. No, he's not Megatron. No, he's not Julio. No, he can't take defenders 1v3 or jump 20 feet into the air. But he's still one of the top 10% of WRs in this league.

calvin, jones, fitz, green, marshall, white, aj, nicks, nelson, harvin, bryant, steve smith, colston, vjax, wayne, bowe, d thomasall guys I think have more receiving talent than jennings, and would post etter #s than jennings on GB

Fixed, enough said.

I can see the argument to strike some of them out.But saying that Jennings is a more talented WR than Nicks, Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne or even Dwayne Bowe, is preposterous.

Seriously? Preposterous?

 

[packersfan]

I thought last night's game proved rather conclusively how valuable Jennings is to the Packers. That's a completely different - and less effective in my opinion - offense without him. I don't think he'll be re-signed but trading him would be (with all due respect to McGinn who did write a very good article) insane if the goal is to win the Super Bowl (which it obviously is). The Packers need Jennings this season. Keep him and worry about the contract stuff at the end of the year. If he wants too much, let him walk and take the compensatory picks and hope like hell Nelson, Cobb and/or Jones step up.

The guy who concerns me the most long-term is Finley. It's reaching a point where I'm less inclined to commit to him long term. He's too much like Jones to me - very talented but too inconsistent to trust.

 

[meyerj31]

How is this thread still going? They're not trading Jennings, and I would be shocked if they franchise tagged him (that would make him the highest paid player for 2013 on the team), especially when they have no interest in signing him to a long-term deal. The Packers just don't operate like that, IMO. Saddens me, but this will be Jennings last year as a Packer.Clay and Raji are both due extensions (and will get them) and they'll work a deal with Rodgers sometime in the next year to make him a Packer for life, so there's just no room to pay a WR that kind of money when the WR core is so deep. I mean, after Nelson, Finley, and Cobb, how many talented guys do you need to catch passes? Those latter WRs are up against 3rd/4th/5th cornerbacks every week.

Did you watch? Obviously they need someone to catch passes.And I could easily see them tagging him to hold on to the offense for one more year.Until last night...Raji has not looked like a guy deserving a big contract...

QB makes the WRs. Look what Brady did in his first couple super bowls (literally no-name WR1/2 on the team, and he didn't have Gronk back then either). Matthews is a no-brainer ... he's going to get paid. So is Rodgers, soon. So they'll have a decision to keep the anchor of the defense Raji or a WR. I see them choosing Raji.

 

[meatwad1]

IMO...the end of the year will go something like this (or before the end)Jennings resignedJones maybe kept since his price is low...but could see him let go easily...Finley traded or let go (his 2 year contract contained 0 guaranteed money I believe...so they lose nothing in this)Driver??? Probably let go.We saw what I and many others have said last night. Jennings is a very important piece to this offense. People can think WRs are just interchangable because of the offense or QB...but some guys simply go beyond some combine numbers and know how to play the game. IMO...Jennings is one of those guys.

The packers were not able to move the ball last night? I thought they looked ok against a great D. Also, let Finley go? lol!!!!!! That isn't going to happen....he will have to have many, many more bad games to get let go.There is no way Jennings resigns, and there is probably little chance he is traded. He will play out the year and it will end with us kicking some AFC teams ### in the Super Bowl.

One offensive TD.Stalled drives again just past the 50.They have played a great defense...and one very good one. But this is a high powered offense that has struggled too much. And big time without Jennings.Finley signed a 2 year deal with no guarantees... They cut or trade him and do nothing but gain that cap space.What has he shown to be retained?

7/47 and a td last week is pretty productive.What has Jordy shown this year so far, he has had a few drops and doesn't look as good..should we cut him? Also, there were a few guys on D last week who didn't play well...Raji was absent, should have he been cut? Woody looked a little old and slow last week, should we have cut him?

 

[CletiusMaximus]

I have huge respect for McGinn but am nearly 100% certain that Jennings will be back. TT is not always easy to predict, but he keeps his guys, especially the good ones.

 

[meatwad1]

I have huge respect for McGinn but am nearly 100% certain that Jennings will be back. TT is not always easy to predict, but he keeps his guys, especially the good ones.

Everybody loves Jennings, including me, but there is no way to pay him 13 mil a year. It isn't feasible. I cannot see any situation where he stays...all the great organizations let their good wrs walk when the time comes that they are going to be overpaid relative to their age.Look at the Steelers and the Pats, as well as the Pack who have had good pro bowl level wrs for almost 2 decades running now. If someone is asking too much, they let them get it from somewhere else.

 

[sho nuff]

There is no chance of Jennings resigning...Rodgers is due at least 40 million and Clay Steriods is not that far behind that. Everybody is wringing their hands about the Packer offense, but in reality they just played two of the top five defenses at pretty much full strength. After they play Seattle next week, which also has a great D, you will see how much they need Jennings. The answer will be not so much.

I don't think you really watched last night...or last year against KC without Jennings.

I watched last night. I saw some great plays made by the Bears D. They have probably 4 guys who are at an all pro level. I also saw our 'team' kick the living ##### out of the Bears, a playoff team, without Jennings playing a single snap. Were mistakes made by some of the other wrs? Sure, but what is to say Jennings would have made those tough catches or wouldn't have fumbled when hit like a battering ram?Also, Jennings played last week and was targeted 9 times and converted 5 of those for 34 yards. What happened there? If he was such an asset, he would have pulled a Megatron and took over the game. Lord knows we needed it. Our bottom line is Rodgers. We will be able to sign a cheapie wr and replace the value he has no problem. My last point is this...if Graham Harrell is our qb, is Jennings worth 13 mil a year? I would say he isn't even worth 5 if Graham Harrel is our qb, so it is pointless to tie up valuable resources in a person who is easily replaced.

All pro? Hilarious.I saw our offense sputter.Dropped balls...bad routes...not get open, not help the QB out a few times.Nobody said he is Megatron or the elite guy like that.But if watching last night you still want to deny the importance of Jennings...I don't know what else to tell you.

 

[sho nuff]

How is this thread still going? They're not trading Jennings, and I would be shocked if they franchise tagged him (that would make him the highest paid player for 2013 on the team), especially when they have no interest in signing him to a long-term deal. The Packers just don't operate like that, IMO. Saddens me, but this will be Jennings last year as a Packer.Clay and Raji are both due extensions (and will get them) and they'll work a deal with Rodgers sometime in the next year to make him a Packer for life, so there's just no room to pay a WR that kind of money when the WR core is so deep. I mean, after Nelson, Finley, and Cobb, how many talented guys do you need to catch passes? Those latter WRs are up against 3rd/4th/5th cornerbacks every week.

Did you watch? Obviously they need someone to catch passes.And I could easily see them tagging him to hold on to the offense for one more year.Until last night...Raji has not looked like a guy deserving a big contract...

QB makes the WRs. Look what Brady did in his first couple super bowls (literally no-name WR1/2 on the team, and he didn't have Gronk back then either). Matthews is a no-brainer ... he's going to get paid. So is Rodgers, soon. So they'll have a decision to keep the anchor of the defense Raji or a WR. I see them choosing Raji.

The QB was not different last night was it? Or against KC?Brady also had a ridiculously good Oline in those Super Bowls. GB does not have that luxury.I agree on Rodgers and Matthews are must sign guys.If Raji keeps this up...yes, chosing him is easier.If he plays like last year or the 2nd half in week one...its a different story.The thing that helps...Hawk (despite last night's play where I think someone cloned a better player and put it in Hawk's jersey) can be let go (if Smith continues to develop and Bishop is back...some ok depth behind them too).Pickett...getting on in years and if I keep seeing what I have out of Worthy and Daniels...Pickett will be done at the end of this year.Woodson...good game last night...may need to take a cut to stay.Driver...IMO gone after this year.Finley...as I said earlier...trade or released given his play.That frees up a decent amount of space right there.

 

[bumpman]

There is no chance of Jennings resigning...Rodgers is due at least 40 million and Clay Steriods is not that far behind that.

Everybody is wringing their hands about the Packer offense, but in reality they just played two of the top five defenses at pretty much full strength. After they play Seattle next week, which also has a great D, you will see how much they need Jennings. The answer will be not so much.

I don't think you really watched last night...or last year against KC without Jennings.

I watched last night. I saw some great plays made by the Bears D. They have probably 4 guys who are at an all pro level. I also saw our 'team' kick the living ##### out of the Bears, a playoff team, without Jennings playing a single snap. Were mistakes made by some of the other wrs? Sure, but what is to say Jennings would have made those tough catches or wouldn't have fumbled when hit like a battering ram?Also, Jennings played last week and was targeted 9 times and converted 5 of those for 34 yards. What happened there? If he was such an asset, he would have pulled a Megatron and took over the game. Lord knows we needed it.

Our bottom line is Rodgers. We will be able to sign a cheapie wr and replace the value he has no problem.

My last point is this...if Graham Harrell is our qb, is Jennings worth 13 mil a year? I would say he isn't even worth 5 if Graham Harrel is our qb, so it is pointless to tie up valuable resources in a person who is easily replaced.

Like I said before, letting Jennings walk in order to keep the most valuable parts of the team intact is a difficult, but legitimate decision. But please don't pretend it will be easy to replace Jennings. The offense will not be as good without him unless GB gets extremely lucky with the draft or some incredible free agent signing. Saying Jennings should have taken over last week's game like Megatron is silly. Megatron couldn't take over his own game against the Rams. The bottom line is that if the team doesn't keep Jennings, it will pay the price of losing a "top-tier" WR. That means less consistency on offense, fewer opportunities for the other WRs as defenses roll coverage to them, and lower production for Rodgers. That may be still worth it to GB if they can keep the other pieces. We will see.

 

[sho nuff]

IMO...the end of the year will go something like this (or before the end)Jennings resignedJones maybe kept since his price is low...but could see him let go easily...Finley traded or let go (his 2 year contract contained 0 guaranteed money I believe...so they lose nothing in this)Driver??? Probably let go.We saw what I and many others have said last night. Jennings is a very important piece to this offense. People can think WRs are just interchangable because of the offense or QB...but some guys simply go beyond some combine numbers and know how to play the game. IMO...Jennings is one of those guys.

The packers were not able to move the ball last night? I thought they looked ok against a great D. Also, let Finley go? lol!!!!!! That isn't going to happen....he will have to have many, many more bad games to get let go.There is no way Jennings resigns, and there is probably little chance he is traded. He will play out the year and it will end with us kicking some AFC teams ### in the Super Bowl.

One offensive TD.Stalled drives again just past the 50.They have played a great defense...and one very good one. But this is a high powered offense that has struggled too much. And big time without Jennings.Finley signed a 2 year deal with no guarantees... They cut or trade him and do nothing but gain that cap space.What has he shown to be retained?

7/47 and a td last week is pretty productive.What has Jordy shown this year so far, he has had a few drops and doesn't look as good..should we cut him? Also, there were a few guys on D last week who didn't play well...Raji was absent, should have he been cut? Woody looked a little old and slow last week, should we have cut him?

Jordy is cheap...and has shown much more than Jones and Finley over his career.Unlike you, I am not basing this all on 2 games.This comes from Jones' and Finley's whole career so far of coming up way short of expectations.You will see above that I think Raji needs to keep playing at this level if he wants more money. But nobody is advocating for cutting someone right now.Woody needs to keep showing he has it back at safety and moving around and likely needs to take a reduction IMO (if McMillan and Hayward keep stepping up like they did last night).

 

[sho nuff]

I have huge respect for McGinn but am nearly 100% certain that Jennings will be back. TT is not always easy to predict, but he keeps his guys, especially the good ones.

Everybody loves Jennings, including me, but there is no way to pay him 13 mil a year. It isn't feasible. I cannot see any situation where he stays...all the great organizations let their good wrs walk when the time comes that they are going to be overpaid relative to their age.Look at the Steelers and the Pats, as well as the Pack who have had good pro bowl level wrs for almost 2 decades running now. If someone is asking too much, they let them get it from somewhere else.

Or tag him (Wallace).And the Pats have not had a guy like Jennings (don't give me Branch...or Moss on his last legs and not doing a thing).

 

[sho nuff]

The only part of it that makes Jennings "easier" to replace is TT's track record in scouting WRs.

Still a lot of season left to go...Boykins could step up at some point and get into the lineup and show he has something for them.

But as of now...trading Jennings would obviously be a bad bad bad move.

 

[meyerj31]

How is this thread still going? They're not trading Jennings, and I would be shocked if they franchise tagged him (that would make him the highest paid player for 2013 on the team), especially when they have no interest in signing him to a long-term deal. The Packers just don't operate like that, IMO. Saddens me, but this will be Jennings last year as a Packer.Clay and Raji are both due extensions (and will get them) and they'll work a deal with Rodgers sometime in the next year to make him a Packer for life, so there's just no room to pay a WR that kind of money when the WR core is so deep. I mean, after Nelson, Finley, and Cobb, how many talented guys do you need to catch passes? Those latter WRs are up against 3rd/4th/5th cornerbacks every week.

Did you watch? Obviously they need someone to catch passes.And I could easily see them tagging him to hold on to the offense for one more year.Until last night...Raji has not looked like a guy deserving a big contract...

QB makes the WRs. Look what Brady did in his first couple super bowls (literally no-name WR1/2 on the team, and he didn't have Gronk back then either). Matthews is a no-brainer ... he's going to get paid. So is Rodgers, soon. So they'll have a decision to keep the anchor of the defense Raji or a WR. I see them choosing Raji.

The QB was not different last night was it? Or against KC?Brady also had a ridiculously good Oline in those Super Bowls. GB does not have that luxury.I agree on Rodgers and Matthews are must sign guys.If Raji keeps this up...yes, chosing him is easier.If he plays like last year or the 2nd half in week one...its a different story.The thing that helps...Hawk (despite last night's play where I think someone cloned a better player and put it in Hawk's jersey) can be let go (if Smith continues to develop and Bishop is back...some ok depth behind them too).Pickett...getting on in years and if I keep seeing what I have out of Worthy and Daniels...Pickett will be done at the end of this year.Woodson...good game last night...may need to take a cut to stay.Driver...IMO gone after this year.Finley...as I said earlier...trade or released given his play.That frees up a decent amount of space right there.

Almost none of this is correct. Raji doesn't have to "keep anything up" from last night since his job is not to make impact plays. His job is to swallow up 2 blockers and maintain the point of attack. Raji can have a perfect year and not have a single sack if he's holding the point for the linebackers to do their job.Woodson is not taking a pay cut; where do you come up with this stuff? Good game last night? He's had a good last 5 seasons. Woodson is the consummate leader, playmaker, and presence of this defense. They're not asking him for a pay cut. His current deal goes through 2014, which is about what he'll have left in the tank playing safety for three years, afterwards will retire a Packer, full salary of $6.5M per year. For what Woodson still brings to the table at his age, I think that's even a bit of a bargain.Finley... trade or released? How about neither? The contract he just signed is for two years, relatively cheap on the 2nd year. The Packers aren't parting with Finley when they only have to pay him $4.5M next year, given his importance to the scheme. A super athletic tight end that can block well and be moved around the formation is extremely useful in today's game. While the drops suck, they're going to live with a few of them as Finley continues to develop. If there's drops after his current deal in two years, obviously he's gone.Brady... The offensive line during his super bowl years was good but nothing stellar. Great QBs like Brady and Manning know what the defense is going to do and make adjustments at the line. Did you see how Peyton crushed the Steelers in the no-huddle last week? Yea, they have a decent O-line, but it's the QB directing people that makes the difference. Picket and Driver are aging and under performing for their respective positions so predicting they are gone is like calling the sky blue.

 

[sho nuff]

How is this thread still going? They're not trading Jennings, and I would be shocked if they franchise tagged him (that would make him the highest paid player for 2013 on the team), especially when they have no interest in signing him to a long-term deal. The Packers just don't operate like that, IMO. Saddens me, but this will be Jennings last year as a Packer.

Clay and Raji are both due extensions (and will get them) and they'll work a deal with Rodgers sometime in the next year to make him a Packer for life, so there's just no room to pay a WR that kind of money when the WR core is so deep. I mean, after Nelson, Finley, and Cobb, how many talented guys do you need to catch passes? Those latter WRs are up against 3rd/4th/5th cornerbacks every week.

Did you watch? Obviously they need someone to catch passes.And I could easily see them tagging him to hold on to the offense for one more year.

Until last night...Raji has not looked like a guy deserving a big contract...

QB makes the WRs. Look what Brady did in his first couple super bowls (literally no-name WR1/2 on the team, and he didn't have Gronk back then either). Matthews is a no-brainer ... he's going to get paid. So is Rodgers, soon. So they'll have a decision to keep the anchor of the defense Raji or a WR. I see them choosing Raji.

The QB was not different last night was it? Or against KC?Brady also had a ridiculously good Oline in those Super Bowls. GB does not have that luxury.

I agree on Rodgers and Matthews are must sign guys.

If Raji keeps this up...yes, chosing him is easier.

If he plays like last year or the 2nd half in week one...its a different story.

The thing that helps...

Hawk (despite last night's play where I think someone cloned a better player and put it in Hawk's jersey) can be let go (if Smith continues to develop and Bishop is back...some ok depth behind them too).

Pickett...getting on in years and if I keep seeing what I have out of Worthy and Daniels...Pickett will be done at the end of this year.

Woodson...good game last night...may need to take a cut to stay.

Driver...IMO gone after this year.

Finley...as I said earlier...trade or released given his play.

That frees up a decent amount of space right there.

Almost none of this is correct. Raji doesn't have to "keep anything up" from last night since his job is not to make impact plays. His job is to swallow up 2 blockers and maintain the point of attack. Raji can have a perfect year and not have a single sack if he's holding the point for the linebackers to do their job.

Woodson is not taking a pay cut; where do you come up with this stuff? Good game last night? He's had a good last 5 seasons. Woodson is the consummate leader, playmaker, and presence of this defense. They're not asking him for a pay cut. His current deal goes through 2014, which is about what he'll have left in the tank playing safety for three years, afterwards will retire a Packer, full salary of $6.5M per year. For what Woodson still brings to the table at his age, I think that's even a bit of a bargain.

Finley... trade or released? How about neither? The contract he just signed is for two years, relatively cheap on the 2nd year. The Packers aren't parting with Finley when they only have to pay him $4.5M next year, given his importance to the scheme. A super athletic tight end that can block well and be moved around the formation is extremely useful in today's game. While the drops suck, they're going to live with a few of them as Finley continues to develop. If there's drops after his current deal in two years, obviously he's gone.

Brady... The offensive line during his super bowl years was good but nothing stellar. Great QBs like Brady and Manning know what the defense is going to do and make adjustments at the line. Did you see how Peyton crushed the Steelers in the no-huddle last week? Yea, they have a decent O-line, but it's the QB directing people that makes the difference.

Picket and Driver are aging and under performing for their respective positions so predicting they are gone is like calling the sky blue.

Raji most certainly has to keep up playing like this. Sure, he played a ton of snaps last year...but he was ineffective. If he wants some big pay day...he has to keep this up. You can disagree sure...just saying its incorrect is BS. And if you saw week one...you saw him not doing his job in the 2nd half. The defense needs him to step up...and despite the conventional wisdom of a 3-4...if he wants big money...he does have to make some impact plays. Our LBs have hardly been free to move around all last year or last week. Last night was better for sure.ETA You mention Raji's job...that is his job as the NT of the 3-4. The base scheme they run less than 50%of the snaps of most games (was less than 50% last week for sure).

Woodson is slowing down. He is not a shut down corner and who knows how long he will still be playing any corner at all for this team.

His value is playing near the line...and maybe at safety. Some of this is ignorance on my part not knowing what the rest of his contract looks like though.

I think they very well could approach him asking for a restructure if his play slips and the younger guys show something (as they did some last night).

If Finley can't catch the ball...why pay him $4.5 mil that they could put to signing one of the other guys? Again...others have to keep improving (DJ Williams has looked good in limited work thus far and in preseason). Finley has never lived up to the hype. And his cap hit for 2013 is 8.75 mil. Not sure what of that they could save yet by a cut/trade..

Brady's line gave him much more time to throw than Rodgers lines have. Oh, and Rodgers is pretty darn good at recognizing defenses and directing a no huddle too.

On Pickett and Driver...this was not about touting some great prediction...its about talking about where money could be coming from. Sorry that went over your head.

 

[Warhogs]

When was the last time a top tier player at any position was traded once the season started?

I think that answer is Herschel Walker and it was a long time ago.

 

[sho nuff]

Finley... trade or released? How about neither? The contract he just signed is for two years, relatively cheap on the 2nd year. The Packers aren't parting with Finley when they only have to pay him $4.5M next year, given his importance to the scheme. A super athletic tight end that can block well and be moved around the formation is extremely useful in today's game. While the drops suck, they're going to live with a few of them as Finley continues to develop. If there's drops after his current deal in two years, obviously he's gone.

Another game...and more drops.And now his agent running his mouth about Rodgers."ARod is a great QB he isn't a great leader," Baratz wrote . "There's a major difference. Leaders take the blame & make every1 better. He doesn't." (Blake Baratz, Jermichael Finley's agent)IMO...he is playing his last year in Green and Gold barring him going out and lighting it up the next 14 games of the regular season.

 

[packersfan]

Finley and his agent both need to cut down on the senseless yapping.