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eaglesfan7
Footballguy
Little has done nothing in camp to this point to warrant drafting high in redraft leagues this year. Dynasty is another monster all together.
mlball77
Footballguy
I recently took him as my WR6 in a redraft league, as a flier. I'm not expecting much, but I'll hold onto him at least a couple-few weeks into the regular season to see if he hits this year. I like his upside enough to give him a few weeks on my squad.
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Raider Nation
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Anquan Boldin 2.0BallparkFrank
Footballguy
I'm well aware of the respective depth charts - it's the not being able to beat out the likes of MoMass, Robiskie and Cribbs that concerns me. I know it's early and he's still a valuable dynasty prospect but I guess I'm not as convinced as most here that Little is more talented than Cobb. It'll be interesting to see how the final weeks of preseason play out as we try to decide who the true rookie WR3 is.'CentralPA said:
CentralPA
Footballguy
My apologies, I thought you were speaking in reference to playing time, injuries, etc. haven't seen much of Cobb but it sounds as if he's got as much talent if not more than Little.
Clifford
Footballguy
So he's hanging on to the ball better but also currently getting beaten on the depth chart by an injured receiver, a return man, and a guy who has never done anything on the NFL level.
Yeah, right. Little starts one of the starting wide spots day 1, and leaves these chumps in his dust. Unless he literally has completely forgotten how to play WR and seriously regresses in camp from here on out, I see no way this doesn't happen. I think he could be a good WR4 this year. Wr2 next year. Anything beyond that has more to do with McCoy and the Browns scheme than him.
Yeah, right. Little starts one of the starting wide spots day 1, and leaves these chumps in his dust. Unless he literally has completely forgotten how to play WR and seriously regresses in camp from here on out, I see no way this doesn't happen. I think he could be a good WR4 this year. Wr2 next year. Anything beyond that has more to do with McCoy and the Browns scheme than him.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
I don't see how it's "obvious he knew the guy was hurt". He starts woofing as he gets up and then walks away. He isn't woofing at the guy as the trainer is coming out or as teammates are waving for the trainer or something like that. I certainly think Little has attitude and some arrogance. I'm not sure I buy that he's a punk based on that play. And it was a HELL of a block.
eakfootball
Footballguy
In January and Febuary I really didn't like the guy. But I've slowly warming to him, and he easily could be the real deal. Maybe it's just because I traded for him in part of big deal for my main team. It's amazing how much of a bump you give to a player you just aquired, and drop down one that you traded away. I think it is just our cocky side trying to convince ourselves we made a great move.
nysportsfan
Footballguy
I heard this guy speak on NFL Radio a couple of weeks ago, and came away impressed 
Couple that with what I've seen on tape, he might be in the league a while, and at a high level.
Couple that with what I've seen on tape, he might be in the league a while, and at a high level.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Even phrasing it that way is stupid.Just say "I thought he was a punk already." It had nothing to do with that play, since he literally did nothing wrong on that play.'spider321 said:
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
3/10'spider321 said:
trip. you can do better than weak one line responses...rabiddawgs
Footballguy
Ya know I can't believe some of the people in here. i have been a member here for a long time and yes there has been some very heated conversations go on and most of the time I laugh my butt off. grown men arguing over stupid crap. but I would like to comment on this.
I have watched this video over and over and see no proof that he knew the guy taunted him. he pancaked his ### got up and said a few words to him. the db never reached for his knee one time in that video. what he said we have no idea. how the hell do we know what the other player said to little before that play or during that play. the db could have been taunting little all game long. do I know. nope. do you know. nope. the only 2 people that know are the db and little.
as far as his other off the field problems. wow imagine that a high profile college football player took money, gifts or whatever from boosters. every single major conf in football has this happen. hell look ta all the miami hurricane players that did this.. some very high profile players. it happens. its stupid. get over it. it will never stop until they start to punish the players even when they move on to the nfl. only way to stop it or atleast slow it down.
the kid has some great talents. you can in no way deny that. if you do your dumber than i thought.
he will get his chances in clev even with colt under center.
just my 2 cents.
I have watched this video over and over and see no proof that he knew the guy taunted him. he pancaked his ### got up and said a few words to him. the db never reached for his knee one time in that video. what he said we have no idea. how the hell do we know what the other player said to little before that play or during that play. the db could have been taunting little all game long. do I know. nope. do you know. nope. the only 2 people that know are the db and little.
as far as his other off the field problems. wow imagine that a high profile college football player took money, gifts or whatever from boosters. every single major conf in football has this happen. hell look ta all the miami hurricane players that did this.. some very high profile players. it happens. its stupid. get over it. it will never stop until they start to punish the players even when they move on to the nfl. only way to stop it or atleast slow it down.
the kid has some great talents. you can in no way deny that. if you do your dumber than i thought.
he will get his chances in clev even with colt under center.
just my 2 cents.
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sspunisher
Footballguy
Guys who think like this will really snooze on Little. If you've ever done anything challenging in your life, you would know that you don't master it right away. It takes time, that's why we've universally believed in the 3rd year rule for WRs. Little played a lot of RB in college. And while the constant position change hurt his stats at the time, it absolutely sky rocketed his potential in the future. A WR who runs like a RB? The only other rookie that has that skill set is Randall Cobb. AJ and Julio can't touch Little and Cobb when it comes to running after the catch.I'm VERY high on Greg Little. I'll go as far to say that his ceiling is higher than Julio and Green (although his floor is lower but I'm not concerned with that). Little absolutely reminds me of T.O. All the questions about his hands in camp are not valid. He has very strong hands from what I've seen, none of that body catching nonsense. I'm attributing the dropsies to the 1 year layoff and the fact that he's a RB at heart, so he's ALWAYS looking to make a huge play after he catches it. All the great RAC receivers struggle with this and it comes with the territory. Those 7-8 drops a year are acceptable as long as he's making 7 or 8 guys miss on a short slant route and taking it to the house. Let's not forget how important the West Coast Offense is to receivers who excel at running after the catch. T.O.'s best years were in San Fran with Jeff Garcia (who btw kind of reminds me of Colt McCoy). This is a really great situation for Little. The up and down camp and Robiskie supposedly being ahead of Little is just a tiny speed bump. I'm convinced Little's stock will be higher than AJ Green and Julio Jones sometime within the next 3 years.'spider321 said:
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sspunisher
Footballguy
Another thing I wanted to add. We've all heard Michael Crabtree, Brandon Marshall, T.O, Ochocinco and DeSean Jackson speak on TV or in some interview. The DIVA in them and the hints of immaturity are 100% obvious within just seconds of hearing them speak. They either don't speak intelligently or have that obnoxious way about them. Anyone with any people skills whatsoever can spot that. Now obviously Little has a little bit of immaturity in him but I'm convinced it won't be as bad as the guys mentioned above. One thing I've learned over the years is people who deflect blame or can't admit they made a mistake will always have some kind of immaturity about them. Watch this interview with Little. If you don't want to watch the whole thing, skip to 5:20. It's what made me get over all the negativity about his "punk attitude." He answered some tough questions surprisingly well and owned up to what he did. It was enough for me.
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King of the Wolfies
Footballguy
good video. he comes across as very humble. talks about learning. too many players are all about me, me, me. i admit that i drafted him even tho i had no previous knowledge of him, but i knew i didnt like the players left on the board. this interview makes me feel much better about my decision.
Yep Greg has unique upside I don't think anyone has really argued against that in this thread. But there are some legitimate points in regards to Greg being a knucklehead that probably need to be discussed as well, at least as far as dynasty owners are concerned. I for one was close to members on the UNC football team. The consensus was that Greg just didn't have whatever Hakeem Nicks did. Nicks just had a charisma about him, a leadership quality, a swagger, and he had the work ethic and talent to back up that swagger and people rallied behind him. Greg had the swagger but was basically the opposite. Greg also is a guy that while physically gifted, wasn't very respected among his peers on what he could do on the football field. People seem to think that despite him being a physical freak, he was easy to tackle. Maybe he just wasn't a very well liked guy and people made to much of that. And maybe that was just because he couldn't cut it as a running back. Time will tell I guess. But for me looking at a top 7 pick in a rookie draft, in the current NFL that looks for immediate production, in a historical rough place to be in Cleveland, with an unproven QB, there are way too many concerns for me there. If it was say 20th pick in a rookie draft I understand the risk. Its just very easy for me to see him struggling out of the gate early and before you know it fighting for a job. Not surprised at all to hear him struggling to beat out Robiskie.
zamboni
Footballguy
It may take a bit for Little to get up to NFL game speed, but I can't think of another team situation that has a wide open opportunity for someone to become a clear go-to guy. Guys like Robiskie, Massequoi, Stuckey and converted KR Cribbs are incredibly uninspiring. Watson and Moore are solid options at TE, but I don't think team brass wants the passing game to go through them.
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You seem to imply that there are safer rookies to look at with a top 7 pick. But which rookie isn't a risk in the mid-1st round? Baldwin? Cobb? Vereen? Little very well could bust, but I think the upside with Little clearly warrants a selection in that range just as much as any other option available.'FDC said:
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Nice route. Added bonus point in leagues that count punting...
Nothing wowing imo. Just a good route/throw/catch. Better punt.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
WIDE open
Bobcat10
Footballguy
nysportsfan
Footballguy
ADP drops due to punt 
JamesTheScot
Footballguy
Had a 10 team PPR re-draft tonight and took him as my WR6. Several guys immediately claimed they were looking at him but thought it was too early to take him...even though Denarius Moore had been taken several rounds earlier. Guys like Floyd, Burleson and Garcon were taken shortly thereafter. The dropsies are lowering his ADP. Could end up being a bargain.I love him in that WCO. McCoy is accurate enough to throw him catchable balls in the short to intermediate range and he has the physicality and athleticism to do something with it. Gotta like a converted RB getting the ball in the secondary with the big bodies already behind him.Imagine what Sam Bradford's stats would have looked like had he gotten some YAC from his receivers. Little actually has me a bit jazzed over Colt McCoy for that reason. I took Little at the 23.10, but this is a 43 man roster IDP league, so the round isn't applicable for comparison to most leagues.
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mlball77
Footballguy
Nice. His athleticism and physicality, coupled with the real chance he has to be CLE's #1 receiving option, make me like his upside. Sure, he isn't at all a lock to be CLE's #1 and CLE's #1 isn't necessarily a fantasy goldmine, but as a WR6 (maybe even WR5 in some leagues), I don't think you can ask for much more than what Little brings to the table for upside. I still see him as a bit of a long shot to have a big season this year, but imo, the possibility is really there, even for his rookie year.FTR, I landed him at 13.12 in my 12-team redraft league (which is mix of advanced, intermediate and novice level players).
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LHUCKS
Footballguy
After watching him for two games, I have the following observations.
1) Seems to lack a "nose" for the ball
2) Great athleticism
3) Browns definitely want him involved...the degree to which is debatable
I see him as a great dynasty pickup and a "flier" type pick in redrafts...likely won't be consistent enough for redrafts but could emerge late in the season, particularly if there are injuries in the WR corps.
Way too overhyped in this thread.
1) Seems to lack a "nose" for the ball
2) Great athleticism
3) Browns definitely want him involved...the degree to which is debatable
I see him as a great dynasty pickup and a "flier" type pick in redrafts...likely won't be consistent enough for redrafts but could emerge late in the season, particularly if there are injuries in the WR corps.
Way too overhyped in this thread.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Bold is the exact opposite of what I've read everywhere else. Can you say more about what gives you this impression?
LHUCKS
Footballguy
I saw him adjust poorly to the ball twice in his first two games.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Ok. That could also be normal rookie learning curve as he becomes more familiar with the offense and his QB.
eakfootball
Footballguy
Well with the Mikel and Williams injurys there's a clear top 5 picks in rookie drafts. Not sure who is 6th. Shane Vereen? Randall Cobb? Delone Carter?
With the Leshoure and Williams injuries I would put Little at 1.4 in a PPR easy. No way I would take Thomas over him.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Levi Kiper, Jr.
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
So taking him 1.4 in June isnt crazy anymore????? 
Im glad people are finally coming around to the type of talent he could be. I will say I think the hype train has gotten to be a little (no pun intended
) much for me. I think he has top 10 potential as a dynasty WR, Maybe top 8 or 7 if he gets a great QB. I do not however, think hes close to the Calvin Johnsons, Larry Fitzgerald, Dez Bryant, AJ green, Andre Johnson(no Specific order) category. Not that he plays like them but from a rankings standpoint I think hes more of a Roddy White, Greg Jennings, Marques Colston type of stat guy.
Im glad people are finally coming around to the type of talent he could be. I will say I think the hype train has gotten to be a little (no pun intended
) much for me. I think he has top 10 potential as a dynasty WR, Maybe top 8 or 7 if he gets a great QB. I do not however, think hes close to the Calvin Johnsons, Larry Fitzgerald, Dez Bryant, AJ green, Andre Johnson(no Specific order) category. Not that he plays like them but from a rankings standpoint I think hes more of a Roddy White, Greg Jennings, Marques Colston type of stat guy.
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Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
I used to think so, but I've heard he lacks a nose for the ball.So taking him 1.4 in June isnt crazy anymore?????
Bobcat10
Footballguy
I used to think so, but I've heard he lacks a nose for the ball.So taking him 1.4 in June isnt crazy anymore?????
kimbosliced
Footballguy
Ha..I picked him up per Bloom's recommendations--he asserts that Little will blow up very soon.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
The Little hype is strong in dynasty. In 1 of my PPR leagues, the Little owner wasn't going to deal him unless I gave him Matthews in return. 
