Guess which team has the lowest home game attendance (1 Viewer)

[Horses Mouth]

in 2012, which team has the lowest attendance rate (attended/capacity)?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

SD

 

[gradin123]

The Miami Dolphins. Horrible sports town and it doesn't help that every road in the city is tolled.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I believe Tampa Bay averages less fans but % wise it is the Miami Dolphins no doubt about it. Miami is a horrible sports town, agree completely. The last 2 decades of football for the Dolphins have not helped much either.

 

[cstu]

Who would have guessed that the Jags have the highest attendance of all 3 FL teams? JAX is 21st in home attendance while MIA and TB are 31st and 32nd.

 

[BassNBrew]

Are the 20,000 tarp covered seats in Jax counted towards capacity.

They really should move two of the teams out of Florida and have the remaining team rotate between Miami, Tampa, and Jax like Green Bay used to play in two cities.

 

[Horses Mouth]

Are the 20,000 tarp covered seats in Jax counted towards capacity.They really should move two of the teams out of Florida and have the remaining team rotate between Miami, Tampa, and Jax like Green Bay used to play in two cities.

Jacksonville and Miami are 350 miles apart.

 

[Concept Coop]

I was just in Jacksonville for the Cocktail Party...how the hell did that city get an NFL team?

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

London Jaguars?

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Are the 20,000 tarp covered seats in Jax counted towards capacity.They really should move two of the teams out of Florida and have the remaining team rotate between Miami, Tampa, and Jax like Green Bay used to play in two cities.

In fairness I think its only 10,000 these days...

 

[BassNBrew]

Are the 20,000 tarp covered seats in Jax counted towards capacity.They really should move two of the teams out of Florida and have the remaining team rotate between Miami, Tampa, and Jax like Green Bay used to play in two cities.

In fairness I think its only 10,000 these days...

YOu may be correct. I heard 20k on the radio this week but the host may not have been accurate.

 

[Horses Mouth]

the answer is Miami

http://espn.go.com/nfl/attendance/_/sort/homePct

 

[Not Sleeping]

the answer is Miami http://espn.go.com/nfl/attendance/_/sort/homePct

Hmm, at 110% capacity they must sit in shifts in Dallas.

 

[Wadsworth]

Who would have guessed that the Jags have the highest attendance of all 3 FL teams? JAX is 21st in home attendance while MIA and TB are 31st and 32nd.

About 10k more per game than TB or Miami in 2012, and while that might seem surprising the Jags beat them both last season as well.

 

[Wadsworth]

Are the 20,000 tarp covered seats in Jax counted towards capacity.

They really should move two of the teams out of Florida and have the remaining team rotate between Miami, Tampa, and Jax like Green Bay used to play in two cities.

It is not 20k seats, more like 10k.

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

Are people down there just that much into College Football or are there just too many transients that just don't care about the local teams?

 

[Wadsworth]

Are the 20,000 tarp covered seats in Jax counted towards capacity.They really should move two of the teams out of Florida and have the remaining team rotate between Miami, Tampa, and Jax like Green Bay used to play in two cities.

In fairness I think its only 10,000 these days...

YOu may be correct. I heard 20k on the radio this week but the host may not have been accurate.

It is easy to get confused, Peter King last season said that a third of the seats where tarped.

 

[azgroover]

Playing with the sortable features of that ESPN page, I found it curious that the Falcons are 3rd from last as a road draw. Good team, but they just don't get anyone excited to come watch.

 

[dgreen]

They are using an old capacity number for Washington. They are closer to 79,000 now, instead of the 91,000 they are using at ESPN.

 

[BobbyLayne]

They are using an old capacity number for Washington. They are closer to 79,000 now, instead of the 91,000 they are using at ESPN.

Did they tarp 12,000 seats?I lived in Jax for 3 years in the 80s. The Florida-Georgia game is the biggest week of the year, and out in Ponte Vedre the PLAYERS is a close second. When I was living there they were whoring themselves out to Bud Adams' Oilers (who eventually moved them to Tennessee). I have a friend of 30 years who heads up Marketing for the Jags. It's just not a big league town IMO. It's like the 47th ranked t.v. market and its small time in every way imaginable. Bunch of insurance companies built a sky line so they think they have a city. It's like a Hollywood set, you look behind the store front and it's just being held up by 2 x 4s. It's a town with no soul or clear identity of who/what they want to be. It's the largest city (by area) in the country, because they incorporated all of Duval County. But - relatively to genuine cities - it's very spread out. People don't identify strongly with their block or neighborhood or city or NFL team, at least not much more than they do the Suns (minor league baseball team).Don't get me wrong, I think Jax is a great place to live. It's affordable, there are great beaches and tremendous golf courses. It's got shopping on par with any suburb if that's your thing, and lots of fun casual places to eat. But it's just not a passionate NFL region.

 

[yoman]

I was going to guess the Bears only because they have the smallest stadium in the NFL but I figured it would be a team that doesn't sell out their home games.

 

[Wadsworth]

They are using an old capacity number for Washington. They are closer to 79,000 now, instead of the 91,000 they are using at ESPN.

Did they tarp 12,000 seats?I lived in Jax for 3 years in the 80s. The Florida-Georgia game is the biggest week of the year, and out in Ponte Vedre the PLAYERS is a close second. When I was living there they were whoring themselves out to Bud Adams' Oilers (who eventually moved them to Tennessee). I have a friend of 30 years who heads up Marketing for the Jags. It's just not a big league town IMO. It's like the 47th ranked t.v. market and its small time in every way imaginable. Bunch of insurance companies built a sky line so they think they have a city. It's like a Hollywood set, you look behind the store front and it's just being held up by 2 x 4s. It's a town with no soul or clear identity of who/what they want to be. It's the largest city (by area) in the country, because they incorporated all of Duval County. But - relatively to genuine cities - it's very spread out. People don't identify strongly with their block or neighborhood or city or NFL team, at least not much more than they do the Suns (minor league baseball team).

Don't get me wrong, I think Jax is a great place to live. It's affordable, there are great beaches and tremendous golf courses. It's got shopping on par with any suburb if that's your thing, and lots of fun casual places to eat. But it's just not a passionate NFL region.

You coming down for the game this weekend? It might change your mind.

 

[BobbyLayne]

They are using an old capacity number for Washington. They are closer to 79,000 now, instead of the 91,000 they are using at ESPN.

Did they tarp 12,000 seats?I lived in Jax for 3 years in the 80s. The Florida-Georgia game is the biggest week of the year, and out in Ponte Vedre the PLAYERS is a close second. When I was living there they were whoring themselves out to Bud Adams' Oilers (who eventually moved them to Tennessee). I have a friend of 30 years who heads up Marketing for the Jags. It's just not a big league town IMO. It's like the 47th ranked t.v. market and its small time in every way imaginable. Bunch of insurance companies built a sky line so they think they have a city. It's like a Hollywood set, you look behind the store front and it's just being held up by 2 x 4s. It's a town with no soul or clear identity of who/what they want to be. It's the largest city (by area) in the country, because they incorporated all of Duval County. But - relatively to genuine cities - it's very spread out. People don't identify strongly with their block or neighborhood or city or NFL team, at least not much more than they do the Suns (minor league baseball team).

Don't get me wrong, I think Jax is a great place to live. It's affordable, there are great beaches and tremendous golf courses. It's got shopping on par with any suburb if that's your thing, and lots of fun casual places to eat. But it's just not a passionate NFL region.

You coming down for the game this weekend? It might change your mind.

Uncle Fred (Lions fan since '48) will be there representing.

When you look around the league, they've have great stability as a franchise because the foundation laid by Coughlin et al. They're on a down cycle but their first two coaches were a long time and had success, they've basically had 3 QBs and 3 bell cow RBs, and they have had continuity elsewhere. IMO they've had as good of a start in their 18 year history as could be reasonably expected despite never making the SB.

I'll probably end up in the Charleston area when I retire in 12-15 years, but I could see adopting the Jags.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I really enjoyed the 60 Minutes piece on Khan but in general I agree with Mr Layne that Jax is about the last city I would want to move to. I have been there a half dozen times and I always am happy to be leaving. It just doesn't seem to have that eclectic vibe that you see in most major cities. I'm a fan of places like Santa Monica/3rd Street, San Fran, Miami/Lincoln Rd, Tampa/Ybor, St Pete/Historic District, New Orleans/Garden District, Asheville NC, Atlanta/5 points, Austin...Jax just seems to be missing a lot of artsy sections that make a city IMO.

The beach in Jax though is pretty and worth going to chill out at.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Oh, and if Wadswoth = Bob T



Did you go to the reunion a couple weeks ago?

 

[Wadsworth]

They are using an old capacity number for Washington. They are closer to 79,000 now, instead of the 91,000 they are using at ESPN.

Did they tarp 12,000 seats?I lived in Jax for 3 years in the 80s. The Florida-Georgia game is the biggest week of the year, and out in Ponte Vedre the PLAYERS is a close second. When I was living there they were whoring themselves out to Bud Adams' Oilers (who eventually moved them to Tennessee). I have a friend of 30 years who heads up Marketing for the Jags. It's just not a big league town IMO. It's like the 47th ranked t.v. market and its small time in every way imaginable. Bunch of insurance companies built a sky line so they think they have a city. It's like a Hollywood set, you look behind the store front and it's just being held up by 2 x 4s. It's a town with no soul or clear identity of who/what they want to be. It's the largest city (by area) in the country, because they incorporated all of Duval County. But - relatively to genuine cities - it's very spread out. People don't identify strongly with their block or neighborhood or city or NFL team, at least not much more than they do the Suns (minor league baseball team).

Don't get me wrong, I think Jax is a great place to live. It's affordable, there are great beaches and tremendous golf courses. It's got shopping on par with any suburb if that's your thing, and lots of fun casual places to eat. But it's just not a passionate NFL region.

You coming down for the game this weekend? It might change your mind.

Uncle Fred (Lions fan since '48) will be there representing.

Awesome. I hope Uncle Fred has a great trip and enjoy every element of Jacksonville besides the outcome of the game.

 

[Wadsworth]

I really enjoyed the 60 Minutes piece on Khan but in general I agree with Mr Layne that Jax is about the last city I would want to move to. I have been there a half dozen times and I always am happy to be leaving. It just doesn't seem to have that eclectic vibe that you see in most major cities. I'm a fan of places like Santa Monica/3rd Street, San Fran, Miami/Lincoln Rd, Tampa/Ybor, St Pete/Historic District, New Orleans/Garden District, Asheville NC, Atlanta/5 points, Austin...Jax just seems to be missing a lot of artsy sections that make a city IMO.

The beach in Jax though is pretty and worth going to chill out at.

That is an impressive list of fun places to visit, I have been to everyone you mentioned and I agree that Jax does not currently have an area on that level. I really like that you included Asheville, NC; I lived there for a few years in the late 80s and still enjoy going back, fun town. But Jacksonville is improving. The local art scene is on fire and Jax has become somewhat of a hot spot for artists. Also, several micro-breweries have popped up in Jax that are receiving national attention. Hopefully that type of area you covet will develop here.

 

[BobbyLayne]

They are using an old capacity number for Washington. They are closer to 79,000 now, instead of the 91,000 they are using at ESPN.

Did they tarp 12,000 seats?I lived in Jax for 3 years in the 80s. The Florida-Georgia game is the biggest week of the year, and out in Ponte Vedre the PLAYERS is a close second. When I was living there they were whoring themselves out to Bud Adams' Oilers (who eventually moved them to Tennessee). I have a friend of 30 years who heads up Marketing for the Jags. It's just not a big league town IMO. It's like the 47th ranked t.v. market and its small time in every way imaginable. Bunch of insurance companies built a sky line so they think they have a city. It's like a Hollywood set, you look behind the store front and it's just being held up by 2 x 4s. It's a town with no soul or clear identity of who/what they want to be. It's the largest city (by area) in the country, because they incorporated all of Duval County. But - relatively to genuine cities - it's very spread out. People don't identify strongly with their block or neighborhood or city or NFL team, at least not much more than they do the Suns (minor league baseball team).

Don't get me wrong, I think Jax is a great place to live. It's affordable, there are great beaches and tremendous golf courses. It's got shopping on par with any suburb if that's your thing, and lots of fun casual places to eat. But it's just not a passionate NFL region.

You coming down for the game this weekend? It might change your mind.

Uncle Fred (Lions fan since '48) will be there representing.

Awesome. I hope Uncle Fred has a great trip and enjoy every element of Jacksonville besides the outcome of the game.

Thank you. He's a Ponte Vedre resident 10 months out of the year now, but rarely ventures west of Route 1.

 

[Warrior]

They didn't tarp the extra seats in Washington, they physically removed them from the stadium

 

[ThePittbully]

Florida should get all three of their NFL teams taken away, the fan support is shameful

 

[dgreen]

They didn't tarp the extra seats in Washington, they physically removed them from the stadium

Yes, they removed a bunch and converted others to standing room only. SRO don't count towards capacity (I don't think), so they can exceed capacity at times.

 

[JaxBill]

Are the 20,000 tarp covered seats in Jax counted towards capacity.

They really should move two of the teams out of Florida and have the remaining team rotate between Miami, Tampa, and Jax like Green Bay used to play in two cities.

In fairness I think its only 10,000 these days...

YOu may be correct. I heard 20k on the radio this week but the host may not have been accurate.

It is easy to get confused, Peter King last season said that a third of the seats where tarped.

Yeah, it's unbelievable the way that the national media continues to harp on the Jags' attendance. I had a comment on PFT deleted last night when MDS wrote that the Jags could be a candidate for blackouts. I don't think they liked my snide comment that he needed to do more research and linked back to a PFT article where Jags President Lamping said there would be no blackouts.

Anyway here are some numbers since the myth keeps being perpetuated.

One thing the Jaguars won’t do is simply remove the tarps that cover almost 10,000 seats and return the capacity to over 76,000. They think the current capacity of 67,246 is about right.

“The stadium is a right size for an NFL team in this market,” Lamping said.

Chicago is the third-largest TV market and has 61,500 seats. Philadelphia, the fourth-largest market, has 69,144 seats.

 

[JaxBill]

Oh, and one more thing. Everbank always looks emptier on TV because the cameras point towards the East stands which are looking directly into the sun. A bunch of those people are either in the Club or in the Bud Light Zone (for the non-club seats)

 

[Sinrman]

Ah, so there might be a FEW people at the JAX game that I am going to tomorrow... interesting...