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Guy sends girl a bill after she "ghosted" him after first date... (1 Viewer)

We provide? This isn't the 1950s anymore....although there is still a wage gap between sexes, a #### ton of women are currently bread winners in their family in today's world. I make more than my wife but not a whole lot more. She'd be perfectly fine on her own financially and be able to buy dudes dinners before she gave them the sexy time (don't do that please, mrs e.)
I get all that and I'm fine with it, but I feel as a man that it is my duty to provide for my family. It's what I do. 

 
She expects it. it's common courtesy on a date. She's not a hooker. 
I disagree that it is "common courtesy" for one gender to expect another gender to pay for a meal in 2018.  But most of all, I'm just glad I'm married and don't have to worry about this dance anymore.

 
If you invite somebody to dinner, you pay for dinner. If you invite someone out for drinks, you pay for the first drink.  If you invite someone to a kid's birthday party, you provide food for all guests. Those are the rules and they are non negotiable.  It has nothing to do with dating. 

If you want to date someone you invite them to dinner. If the date is going well you might order a round of drinks or dessert or whatever.  That's not part of the obligation. 

The only exception is if she pulls the "I'm only here for the free meal" line.  That's breaking the rules. I invited you on a date and offered to pay for dinner.  You accepted dinner but not the date.  You're under no obligation to pay if she makes it clear she's not actually on a date. 
Wait are you implying that when a girl asks a guy out, she pays for dinner?  Because I don't think that's how that usually works.

 
Wait are you implying that when a girl asks a guy out, she pays for dinner?  Because I don't think that's how that usually works.
What do you mean asks them out? If a woman asks you if you want to hang out and you bring her to a restaurant, you're inviting her.  If she asks you to take her to a specific restaurant, she's asking you to invite her.  If she invites you to a specific restaurant then yes she invited you.  You can offer to pay and most guys would if they were hoping to hook up, but yeah women can invite men to places and they should expect or at least offer to pay when they do. 

 
Hey everyone - I'm watching Bubble Guppies with my 4 and 6 year old girls...while my wife just left work.  I just thought I would share as my life is clearly more interesting than this debate.

 
Imagine saying a woman should just "woman up" and give the guy a beej, you know for the effort of setting up the date and paying for the meal, before ghosting. 
Hey, Lana, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know.

 
If you invite somebody to dinner, you pay for dinner. If you invite someone out for drinks, you pay for the first drink.  If you invite someone to a kid's birthday party, you provide food for all guests. Those are the rules and they are non negotiable.  It has nothing to do with dating. 

If you want to date someone you invite them to dinner. If the date is going well you might order a round of drinks or dessert or whatever.  That's not part of the obligation. 

The only exception is if she pulls the "I'm only here for the free meal" line.  That's breaking the rules. I invited you on a date and offered to pay for dinner.  You accepted dinner but not the date.  You're under no obligation to pay if she makes it clear she's not actually on a date. 
The only problem with this is that women don’t ask men out on dates.

 
I wonder if it's real.  I generally don't know a girl's address before a first date.  I don't usually know her last name.  I'll admit I didn't read the article, so I suppose he could have picked her up or something.
Yeah I found that strange, too. I went on plenty of first dates through idating and only ever knew the addresses of the ones that invited me back to their places after the date -- which obviously went better then this guy's date. 

 
It all boils down to common courtesy. This girl was a #### for not responding to the text. 

And yes, the guy was a #### for sending the invoice. He took it too far.
Pretty much. They both sound like miserable people. 

 
bagger said:
Lol at the people defending this guy in here.

boo hoo she didn’t text you back. Man up and move on.
Right.  Not sure what he was expecting here.  Sure it sucks, especially if you liked her, but if you're half-decent looking in a big city you should be able to line up your next date no problem. 

My stint in idating ended with a flurry.  Had 13 dates in 13 nights.  Musta spent like 1500 on them.  Got some action and on that 13th date I met my wife.  Always considered that $40-$80 an investment of sorts. 

 
I disagree that it is "common courtesy" for one gender to expect another gender to pay for a meal in 2018.  But most of all, I'm just glad I'm married and don't have to worry about this dance anymore.
Common courtesy may not be the right term. Maybe, man up, buttercup? You're on a date, you offer to pay. And if they offer to get it, you insist you pay. If they still insist, sure, at this point then you relent. It may seem like you will look all enlightened and open minded to let the woman pay, but it just makes you look like a cheap ###. And let me tell you, nothing turns a girl on more than a cheap ###. 

 
TheFanatic said:
Common courtesy may not be the right term. Maybe, man up, buttercup? You're on a date, you offer to pay. And if they offer to get it, you insist you pay. If they still insist, sure, at this point then you relent. It may seem like you will look all enlightened and open minded to let the woman pay, but it just makes you look like a cheap ###. And let me tell you, nothing turns a girl on more than a cheap ###. 
Agree to disagree.  Not a sword I feel like dying on today.

 

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