Hakeem Nicks versus Charles Woodson (1 Viewer)

[Jetdoc]

Hakeem Nicks has been on fire so far this season, but he goes up against Woodson, who has very good of late against #1 WR's. Here are #1 WR stats against GB this season:

Week 1: 30 yards, 0 TDs (DeSean Jackson)

Week 2: 31 yards, 0 TDs (Steve Johnson)

Week 3: 94 yards, 0 TDs (Johnny Knox)

Week 4: 86 yards, 2 TDs (Calvin Johnson)

Week 5: 118 yards, 0 TDs (Santana Moss)

Week 6: 127 yards, 0 TDs (Brandon Marshall)

Week 7: 30 yards, 1 TD (Randy Moss)

Week 8: 45 yards, 0 TDs (Santonio Holmes)

Week 9: 16 yards, 0 TDs (Miles Austin)

Week 10: Bye

Week 11: 12 yards, 0 TDs (Percy Harvin)

Week 12: 49 yards, 0 TDs (Roddy White)

Week 13: 45 yards, 0 TDs (Michael Crabtree)

Week 14: 44 yards, 0 TDs (Calvin Johnson)

Week 15: 42 yards, 0 TDs (Wes Welker)

Should I be tempering my expectations about Nicks this week?

 

[RushHour]

I'm surprised this thread hadn't been made already. I'm a Nicks owner and I have to say I'm a little concerned in such a big week.

 

[MIMN]

I'm surprised this thread hadn't been made already. I'm a Nicks owner and I have to say I'm a little concerned in such a big week.

Same here. I'm trying to decide to start someone tonight or sit them and start Nicks.

 

[thehornet]

you dont sit hicks.

 

[firstseason1988]

Yeah, sup Bigtraine.

I have Nicks and playing vs. Nicks. Could someone tell Woodson to cover someone else?

 

[Pipes]

You should be more concerned about Williams. He's a borderline probowler and a much better cover corner than Woodson. Woodson better overall but as far a cover ability Williams is better.

As a Nicks owner I'm a little concerned though Nicks is so good I expect him to have a decent game...just not one of his 150 yard 3 td games but I could see 80-90 yards plus a TD. Another thing to consider is Clay Matthews is banged up and without him at 100% the Pack will struggle getting pressure on Eli so that will only help Nicks' cause.

 

[smcindoe]

Big time concern, although I doubt many have the option of sitting him.

That said, two unrelated positives for Nicks this week:

- With Rodgers back, we know GB can score points. A shootout and/or big early lead for GB is a possibility

- Even if the Giants take a lead, after last week's debacle is there any way they ease up?

Eli may be throwing 50 times.

 

[thehornet]

not concerned in the least. nicks has beaten his fair share of good coverage this year.

non issue

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Hakeem Nicks has been on fire so far this season, but he goes up against Woodson, who has very good of late against #1 WR's. Here are #1 WR stats against GB this season:Week 1: 30 yards, 0 TDs (DeSean Jackson)Week 2: 31 yards, 0 TDs (Steve Johnson)Week 3: 94 yards, 0 TDs (Johnny Knox)Week 4: 86 yards, 2 TDs (Calvin Johnson)Week 5: 118 yards, 0 TDs (Santana Moss)Week 6: 127 yards, 0 TDs (Brandon Marshall)Week 7: 30 yards, 1 TD (Randy Moss)Week 8: 45 yards, 0 TDs (Santonio Holmes)Week 9: 16 yards, 0 TDs (Miles Austin)Week 10: ByeWeek 11: 12 yards, 0 TDs (Percy Harvin)Week 12: 49 yards, 0 TDs (Roddy White)Week 13: 45 yards, 0 TDs (Michael Crabtree)Week 14: 44 yards, 0 TDs (Calvin Johnson)Week 15: 42 yards, 0 TDs (Wes Welker)Should I be tempering my expectations about Nicks this week?

This is great work. Appreciate it. Didn't realize the Packers had done so well against #1's this year. I was starting Nicks without question but now.....I'm questioning.

 

[Canowupass]

I'm sitting him for Megatron and Roddy.

 

[Dez]

Week 4: 86 yards, 2 TDs (Calvin Johnson)

Since Nicks talent is right there with Calvin I think I am going to roll with Nicks he seems like a better bet then Harry Douglas for my championship game.

Feel free to bench Nicks are your own peril.

Sorry but 49 yr old Chuck Woodson does not equal Revis Island.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

You should be more concerned about Williams. He's a borderline probowler and a much better cover corner than Woodson. Woodson better overall but as far a cover ability Williams is better.

Correct - Woodson will not be covering Nicks on Sunday if Dom Capers' gameplan works as designed - at least not by himself on the outside. He's still a decent player, but it is apparent that no team fears him and Capers works hard to hide him - most often inside on a slot receiver or TE. If Nicks gets Woodson alone on the outside, it will be trouble for the Packers, but that is unlikely. The Packers play nickle or dime approx. 75-80% of the game.To the point of the op however, you may have some concerns with Tramon Williams shutting down Nicks. He's having a pro bowl season, but its not quite time to start printing the "Tramon Island" t-shirts just yet.

 

[JohnnyU]

You should be more concerned about Williams. He's a borderline probowler and a much better cover corner than Woodson. Woodson better overall but as far a cover ability Williams is better.

Correct - Woodson will not be covering Nicks on Sunday if Dom Capers' gameplan works as designed - at least not by himself on the outside. He's still a decent player, but it is apparent that no team fears him and Capers works hard to hide him - most often inside on a slot receiver or TE. If Nicks gets Woodson alone on the outside, it will be trouble for the Packers, but that is unlikely. The Packers play nickle or dime approx. 75-80% of the game.To the point of the op however, you may have some concerns with Tramon Williams shutting down Nicks. He's having a pro bowl season, but its not quite time to start printing the "Tramon Island" t-shirts just yet.

The Packers rank 19th against the run and the Giants run the ball very well. If the Packers play nickle and dime coverage as much as you say they will be in big trouble.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

You should be more concerned about Williams. He's a borderline probowler and a much better cover corner than Woodson. Woodson better overall but as far a cover ability Williams is better.

Correct - Woodson will not be covering Nicks on Sunday if Dom Capers' gameplan works as designed - at least not by himself on the outside. He's still a decent player, but it is apparent that no team fears him and Capers works hard to hide him - most often inside on a slot receiver or TE. If Nicks gets Woodson alone on the outside, it will be trouble for the Packers, but that is unlikely. The Packers play nickle or dime approx. 75-80% of the game.To the point of the op however, you may have some concerns with Tramon Williams shutting down Nicks. He's having a pro bowl season, but its not quite time to start printing the "Tramon Island" t-shirts just yet.

This.It was Tramon Williams that shut down Calvin two weeks ago. He's been extremely good all season. The one play where Calvin burned the Packers was when the finally got Calvin isolated on the outside with Woodson. Williams and Brandon Flowers have been the best CBs this year, not Revis, Nmadi or Woodson.Packers do play quite a bit of nickel, but Woodson often plays the slot receiver in that defense. He's a very good run defender and diagnoses plays quickly.Back to the OP query, Nicks will struggle vs Williams. It is the NFL and anything is possible, but don't expect big numbers from Nicks this week. I am starting Nicks this week myself and don't like the matchup one bit, but at this point you've got to stick with the guys that got you here.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I am concerned. I had an opportunity to play Wallace over him and he just had 104 and a TD. I doubt Nicks goes off for more than that. If he ends up with a pretty big day, he's going to need a really long play to boost up his stats. He's not going to get a ton of 8 yard catches and have this huge day.

It'll come off a play action pass, deep and Eli and Nicks will have to execute on the big play opportunities.

 

[krugoh]

How does this affect Manningham owners? Not trying to change subjects, but it was noted above that woodson will be covering a slot receiver or TE.

Things to consider: Manningham's abundance of targets and receptions as the WR2 of the giants. As the WR1, manningham is less than impressive... but when one of two of steve smith/nicks is out, he seems to get double digit targets and nearly double digit receptions. Should we be worried if woodson is covering him?

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

How does this affect Manningham owners? Not trying to change subjects, but it was noted above that woodson will be covering a slot receiver or TE.Things to consider: Manningham's abundance of targets and receptions as the WR2 of the giants. As the WR1, manningham is less than impressive... but when one of two of steve smith/nicks is out, he seems to get double digit targets and nearly double digit receptions. Should we be worried if woodson is covering him?

I think Manningham is a ok start this week. He'll probably draw Sam Shields for the most part, an undrafted rookie FA. Shields is extremely quick however, and not a bad player. Teams have had some success against him though this year, mainly because they have to throw it somewhere, and Tramon Williams has been so good on the other side. Shields will likely get a fair amount of safety help over the top. Pro bowl S Nick Collins has been limited in practice all week, but I suspect he'll play. Keep in mind nobody has really done well throwing the ball on the Packers since McNabb week 5. There have been some individuals that did well receiving (Santana Moss, Brandon Marshall, Vernon Davis, Dez Bryant), but they have been few and far between. This is a very good secondary.

 

[Magnum]

Starting Nicks (with Vjax & Marshall) and not looking back. I'll happily take 70-80 yards and a TD.

 

[tigerz]

You can't really look at these stats in a vacuum and say that since a lot of WRs did poorly that Nicks is likely to do poorly. There are other factors that limited the WRs.

Week 1: 30 yards, 0 TDs (DeSean Jackson)

Kolb went down this game and Vick came in to replace him so the Eagles weren't the same team they were then as they are today.

Week 2: 31 yards, 0 TDs (Steve Johnson)

Edwards was throwing in this game.

Week 3: 94 yards, 0 TDs (Johnny Knox)

Week 4: 86 yards, 2 TDs (Calvin Johnson)

Week 5: 118 yards, 0 TDs (Santana Moss)

Week 6: 127 yards, 0 TDs (Brandon Marshall)

All acceptable stats.

Week 7: 30 yards, 1 TD (Randy Moss)

Randy Moss isn't even close to Hakeem Nicks this year but 30 yards and 1 TD is actually like one of his best games this year.

Week 8: 45 yards, 0 TDs (Santonio Holmes)

Can't really compare Holmes to Nicks this year, Nicks is better and has a better QB and has been playing like a WR1 all year.

Week 9: 16 yards, 0 TDs (Miles Austin)

IIRC, this was the first game Kitna started and the team just gave up on their coach. He seemed to focus on Bryant, the only guy who was really playing his heart out. Also, Austin hasn't really been the focal point of the offense this year. Bryant got 86 yards and 1 TD this game so that would be a better comparison of what you might expect from Nicks.

Week 11: 12 yards, 0 TDs (Percy Harvin)

This offense had serious problems. Percy Harvin has been good in a few games but his headaches, the QB, and the offense makes it a bad comparison to Nicks. Plus, I think Rice was activated this game and was the lead receiver.

Week 12: 49 yards, 0 TDs (Roddy White)

Can't explain this one, he got beat. Nicks can easily have this kind of game.

Week 13: 45 yards, 0 TDs (Michael Crabtree)

Really isn't comparable to Nicks. Giants aren't even close to as bad as SF.

Week 14: 44 yards, 0 TDs (Calvin Johnson)

Drew Stanton isn't Eli Manning and he isn't even Shaun Hill. That would probably account for some of the difference between the two games.

Week 15: 42 yards, 0 TDs (Wes Welker)

Patriots scored off a run and had great special teams/defensive plays this game that also contributed to lack of opportunity for receivers. The gameplan seemed to be to exploit the matchups with TE and woodhead.

I don't think these stats mean that Nicks is definitely going to have a bad game. A lot of the teams that got shutdown had poor QB play, the WRs were a lot less talented than Nicks, and on less powerful offenses in general. He could have the game go the way of the Patriots game and the Atlanta game but Nicks is a big part of this offense so I think he has a shot at having stats comparable to the teams that faced GB week 3-6. At worst he should get 30-40 yards but what you can reasonably expect is 75 yards, 1 TD with possibility of 90 yards, 2 TD. That means you can probably sub in someone like Deion Branch or Santana Moss for him if you feel more confident about them or you can choose to roll out with Nicks knowing that your expectations should be in line with what you would expect from a high end WR2 or low end WR1.

 

[Avery]

You should be more concerned about Williams. He's a borderline probowler and a much better cover corner than Woodson. Woodson better overall but as far a cover ability Williams is better.

As a Nicks owner I'm a little concerned though Nicks is so good I expect him to have a decent game...just not one of his 150 yard 3 td games but I could see 80-90 yards plus a TD. Another thing to consider is Clay Matthews is banged up and without him at 100% the Pack will struggle getting pressure on Eli so that will only help Nicks' cause.

So, we should be worried about the 8th ranked WR in PPR (counting the two weeks missed due to injury) due to starting against a "borderline probowler" at CB?Perhaps not a slam dunk start and overall Green Bay has a solid pass defense, but there are maybe just a half a dozen guys or so I'd be starting over Nicks this week.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

You can't really look at these stats in a vacuum and say that since a lot of WRs did poorly that Nicks is likely to do poorly. There are other factors that limited the WRs.Week 1: 30 yards, 0 TDs (DeSean Jackson) Kolb went down this game and Vick came in to replace him so the Eagles weren't the same team they were then as they are today.Week 2: 31 yards, 0 TDs (Steve Johnson)Edwards was throwing in this game.Week 3: 94 yards, 0 TDs (Johnny Knox)Week 4: 86 yards, 2 TDs (Calvin Johnson)Week 5: 118 yards, 0 TDs (Santana Moss)Week 6: 127 yards, 0 TDs (Brandon Marshall)All acceptable stats.Week 7: 30 yards, 1 TD (Randy Moss)Randy Moss isn't even close to Hakeem Nicks this year but 30 yards and 1 TD is actually like one of his best games this year.Week 8: 45 yards, 0 TDs (Santonio Holmes)Can't really compare Holmes to Nicks this year, Nicks is better and has a better QB and has been playing like a WR1 all year.Week 9: 16 yards, 0 TDs (Miles Austin)IIRC, this was the first game Kitna started and the team just gave up on their coach. He seemed to focus on Bryant, the only guy who was really playing his heart out. Also, Austin hasn't really been the focal point of the offense this year. Bryant got 86 yards and 1 TD this game so that would be a better comparison of what you might expect from Nicks.Week 11: 12 yards, 0 TDs (Percy Harvin)This offense had serious problems. Percy Harvin has been good in a few games but his headaches, the QB, and the offense makes it a bad comparison to Nicks. Plus, I think Rice was activated this game and was the lead receiver.Week 12: 49 yards, 0 TDs (Roddy White)Can't explain this one, he got beat. Nicks can easily have this kind of game.Week 13: 45 yards, 0 TDs (Michael Crabtree)Really isn't comparable to Nicks. Giants aren't even close to as bad as SF.Week 14: 44 yards, 0 TDs (Calvin Johnson)Drew Stanton isn't Eli Manning and he isn't even Shaun Hill. That would probably account for some of the difference between the two games.Week 15: 42 yards, 0 TDs (Wes Welker)Patriots scored off a run and had great special teams/defensive plays this game that also contributed to lack of opportunity for receivers. The gameplan seemed to be to exploit the matchups with TE and woodhead. I don't think these stats mean that Nicks is definitely going to have a bad game. A lot of the teams that got shutdown had poor QB play, the WRs were a lot less talented than Nicks, and on less powerful offenses in general. He could have the game go the way of the Patriots game and the Atlanta game but Nicks is a big part of this offense so I think he has a shot at having stats comparable to the teams that faced GB week 3-6. At worst he should get 30-40 yards but what you can reasonably expect is 75 yards, 1 TD with possibility of 90 yards, 2 TD. That means you can probably sub in someone like Deion Branch or Santana Moss for him if you feel more confident about them or you can choose to roll out with Nicks knowing that your expectations should be in line with what you would expect from a high end WR2 or low end WR1.

Look, there's plenty of what ifs out there every week. Sure, Tramon Williams hasn't faced Schaub to AJ, or Manning to Wayne every week. What he has done is play at an extremely high level throughout the season. I'd bet if scouts and GMs actually chose the All Pro team, he'd be on it this year. That doesn't mean Nicks can't have a respectable fantasy performance. The Lions were able to get Woodson on Calvin for one play and hit him for a 44 yard reception. It is a NFL game and anything is possible on any given Sunday and I'm not saying people shouldn't start Nicks. Just temper your expectations.

 

[sho nuff]

You should be more concerned about Williams. He's a borderline probowler and a much better cover corner than Woodson. Woodson better overall but as far a cover ability Williams is better.As a Nicks owner I'm a little concerned though Nicks is so good I expect him to have a decent game...just not one of his 150 yard 3 td games but I could see 80-90 yards plus a TD. Another thing to consider is Clay Matthews is banged up and without him at 100% the Pack will struggle getting pressure on Eli so that will only help Nicks' cause.

Agreed..>Woodson has been the slot WR/TE guy much of the time...and that helps him stay inside and help in run support where he does well (and also in to blitz some).Matthews is banged up, but he finally practiced in pads on a Thursday which he had not done in at least a month. Good sign for him.

 

[tigerz]

Look, there's plenty of what ifs out there every week. Sure, Tramon Williams hasn't faced Schaub to AJ, or Manning to Wayne every week. What he has done is play at an extremely high level throughout the season. I'd bet if scouts and GMs actually chose the All Pro team, he'd be on it this year. That doesn't mean Nicks can't have a respectable fantasy performance. The Lions were able to get Woodson on Calvin for one play and hit him for a 44 yard reception. It is a NFL game and anything is possible on any given Sunday and I'm not saying people shouldn't start Nicks. Just temper your expectations.

Hmm... I never said it was wrong to temper your expectations for Nicks, don't know how you get that from what I said. I even said you should view him as a low end WR1 or a high end WR2 and that it wouldn't be wrong to sub in Deion Branch or Santana Moss for him. I also said he has potential for a bad outing like Welker and White did. Don't see why you are getting defensive.All I said is you can't look at just the stats to figure out whether or not he is going to do well this week because they can be misleading if someone just looks at all the stats together without looking at the complete picture. Each game is different and some of the guys on the list just aren't comparable Nicks so there is reason to believe that he isn't a terrible start or can surpass the others. This isn't even close to the Revis scenario where stud WR were shutout one week after the next. He can have a bad game or a good game and this isn't an ideal matchup so he should be downgraded but there is also reason to believe that he can do well. Just trying to be a voice of reason here and look at all sides of the issue instead of taking a hard stance and refusing to look at the other side of things.

 

[Da Man]

I have to start 2 out of Vincent Jackson, deshaun Jackson and Nicks and am leaning towardds benching Nicks.....I hate to do it because he is a stud....

 

[Northbound Train]

WOW....never really thought about it but now I think I have to.

I am a big proponent of the "never bench your studs" theory...however this thread has made me question my "automatic" decision.

I am in 3 Championships this weekend and coincedentally have Nicks in all 3.

In one league I have Calvin, V.JAx, Nicks with Santana Moss otb

In another I have Colston + Nicks with Marshall + Crab otb

In the 3rd I have Calvin + Nicks with Marshall otb

Part of me thinks Marshall could have a huge day against the Lions but not so sure I can sit Nicks :(

 

[shotgun72]

I have to start 2 out of Vincent Jackson, deshaun Jackson and Nicks and am leaning towardds benching Nicks.....I hate to do it because he is a stud....

The weather in Philly on Sunday night may persuade you otherwise........

 

[BigTex]

Starting him because he help me get this far.....can't look back now!

Giddy Up!!!!!!

 

[Sup_Yo]

The Giants aren't happy after last week's debacle. Both teams are looking at this game as a must-win situation. I can see this becoming a high scoring game. That said, regardless of who is defending Nicks, plug him in. He should be considered a never-sit-your-studs stud.

 

[JohnnyU]

The Giants aren't happy after last week's debacle. Both teams are looking at this game as a must-win situation. I can see this becoming a high scoring game. That said, regardless of who is defending Nicks, plug him in. He should be considered a never-sit-your-studs stud.

Would you start him over Tampa Mike going up against the 27th ranked pass defense? I know Nicks is an every week start, but Tampa Mike is approaching that as well.

 

[Sup_Yo]

The Giants aren't happy after last week's debacle. Both teams are looking at this game as a must-win situation. I can see this becoming a high scoring game. That said, regardless of who is defending Nicks, plug him in. He should be considered a never-sit-your-studs stud.

Would you start him over Tampa Mike going up against the 27th ranked pass defense? I know Nicks is an every week start, but Tampa Mike is approaching that as well.

I like Tampa Mike and he could very well finish over Nicks this week. That said, I personally could not sit Nicks for Tampa Mike. Tough call, but I'd go with the stud in Hakeem. He's the more talented WR.

 

[inca911]

I have to start 2 out of Vincent Jackson, deshaun Jackson and Nicks and am leaning towardds benching Nicks.....I hate to do it because he is a stud....

The weather in Philly on Sunday night may persuade you otherwise........

DeSean's primary value on Sunday night is likely going to be as a runner. because of the weather. I think Nicks will be fine.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

7 for 80 and 1

 

[Billy Bats]

I've been so focused on all these silly RB situations then to even have time to worry about my WR's. But yea, I'm concerned. I Ihope he has a good day. We need a shootout.

7 for 80 and 1

That would be just lovely.

 

[Billy Bats]

The Giants aren't happy after last week's debacle. Both teams are looking at this game as a must-win situation. I can see this becoming a high scoring game. That said, regardless of who is defending Nicks, plug him in. He should be considered a never-sit-your-studs stud.

Would you start him over Tampa Mike going up against the 27th ranked pass defense? I know Nicks is an every week start, but Tampa Mike is approaching that as well.

Can you start both? Williams is getting the looks, he might go off tomorrow. But I would have a real hard time sitting Nicks as well. Tough call. (I did sit Wallace for Williams with Nicks starting)

 

[Frostillicus]

I'm sitting him for Megatron and Roddy.

ok

 

[gradin123]

The GB pass defense is pretty solid all around. I sat Eli Manning this week to avoid the matchup and went with Rex Grossman.

I wouldn't expect big numbers from any of the Giants receivers.

 

[Billy Bats]

The GB pass defense is pretty solid all around. I sat Eli Manning this week to avoid the matchup and went with Rex Grossman.I wouldn't expect big numbers from any of the Giants receivers.

I'm not either. They kept Brady to pedestrian levels, and li'l Eli isn't Tom. A td is key, because I'm not expecting the yards. 9/10 PTs and I'm happy.

 

[westbrook36]

there is no way you bench hakeem nicks. he is too good to bench. i don't care who he is playing.

 

[Da Man]

I have to start 2 out of Vincent Jackson, deshaun Jackson and Nicks and am leaning towardds benching Nicks.....I hate to do it because he is a stud....

The weather in Philly on Sunday night may persuade you otherwise........

DeSean's primary value on Sunday night is likely going to be as a runner. because of the weather. I think Nicks will be fine.

The weather in Philly looks real nasty..Nicks is in, DJax is out. My expectations are tempered though as the Pack is going to give the Giants trouble...

 

[SWC]

my favorite thing is when the woodman takes a pick six back to the house and destroys the other teams dreams and hopes and ruins thier Christmas

 

[inca911]

my favorite thing is when the woodman takes a pick six back to the house and destroys the other teams dreams and hopes and ruins thier Christmas

"...and to hear the lamentations of the women." --Conan (not O'Brian)

 

[JohnnyU]

The Giants aren't happy after last week's debacle. Both teams are looking at this game as a must-win situation. I can see this becoming a high scoring game. That said, regardless of who is defending Nicks, plug him in. He should be considered a never-sit-your-studs stud.

Would you start him over Tampa Mike going up against the 27th ranked pass defense? I know Nicks is an every week start, but Tampa Mike is approaching that as well.

Can you start both? Williams is getting the looks, he might go off tomorrow. But I would have a real hard time sitting Nicks as well. Tough call. (I did sit Wallace for Williams with Nicks starting)

I guess I could, but I don't really have anyone I can bench unless it's Rashad Jennings, who's matchup I love. So I'm starting Steven Jackson, Ray Rice, Rashad Jennings, Reggie Wayne and Hakeem Nicks. I don't see any room for Tampa Mike.

 

[Lascelle]

The Giants aren't happy after last week's debacle. Both teams are looking at this game as a must-win situation. I can see this becoming a high scoring game. That said, regardless of who is defending Nicks, plug him in. He should be considered a never-sit-your-studs stud.

Would you start him over Tampa Mike going up against the 27th ranked pass defense? I know Nicks is an every week start, but Tampa Mike is approaching that as well.

Can you start both? Williams is getting the looks, he might go off tomorrow. But I would have a real hard time sitting Nicks as well. Tough call. (I did sit Wallace for Williams with Nicks starting)

I guess I could, but I don't really have anyone I can bench unless it's Rashad Jennings, who's matchup I love. So I'm starting Steven Jackson, Ray Rice, Rashad Jennings, Reggie Wayne and Hakeem Nicks. I don't see any room for Tampa Mike.

I presently have Wayne benched for Nicks & Tampa Mike.But then again, I'm CRAZY. (And so is Sigmund Bloom evidently.)

(Sanity may or may not return by 1:00pm... it's not like Nnamdi's 100% or anything and the Colts could be playing from behind on the road at Oakland with most of their defensive starters on the shelf.)

 

[Billy Bats]

The Giants aren't happy after last week's debacle. Both teams are looking at this game as a must-win situation. I can see this becoming a high scoring game. That said, regardless of who is defending Nicks, plug him in. He should be considered a never-sit-your-studs stud.

Would you start him over Tampa Mike going up against the 27th ranked pass defense? I know Nicks is an every week start, but Tampa Mike is approaching that as well.

Can you start both? Williams is getting the looks, he might go off tomorrow. But I would have a real hard time sitting Nicks as well. Tough call. (I did sit Wallace for Williams with Nicks starting)

I guess I could, but I don't really have anyone I can bench unless it's Rashad Jennings, who's matchup I love. So I'm starting Steven Jackson, Ray Rice, Rashad Jennings, Reggie Wayne and Hakeem Nicks. I don't see any room for Tampa Mike.

I gotcha man. I would probably do the same thing with Jennings. Good luck!

 

[Northbound Train]

Pack have allowed 3rd fewest ppg to WRs this season and they've allowed ONE TD to a WR in the L7 games

Going to roll with Nicks in two leagues and Marshall over Nicks in a TD heavy league...

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

7 for 80 and 1

 

[Billy Bats]

I've been so focused on all these silly RB situations then to even have time to worry about my WR's.

But yea, I'm concerned. I Ihope he has a good day. We need a shootout.

7 for 80 and 1

That would be just lovely.

Good call fo shizzle. Some nice work in this thread, I wonder how everyone made out?

 

[knickstorm]

I've been so focused on all these silly RB situations then to even have time to worry about my WR's.

But yea, I'm concerned. I Ihope he has a good day. We need a shootout.

7 for 80 and 1

That would be just lovely. :(

Good call fo shizzle. Some nice work in this thread, I wonder how everyone made out?

not to mention after all those #'s someone listed about how wr's have done, manningham surpassed all that with 1 catch....Giants were torching the pack when the game was actually close before they started it over every other possession.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

I've been so focused on all these silly RB situations then to even have time to worry about my WR's.

But yea, I'm concerned. I Ihope he has a good day. We need a shootout.

7 for 80 and 1

That would be just lovely.

Good call fo shizzle. Some nice work in this thread, I wonder how everyone made out?

It was an interesting matchup going into it for sure. Woodson fell down and gave up the 36 yard TD to Nicks. The coverage on Nicks was pretty good outside of that play. After watching Nicks, I think he's a bit overated around here. Good player. Nowhere near the best WR in the NFL. Actually Greg Jennings looks smoother, and has better RAC ability as well. He made the Giants DBs look silly numerous times. Tramon Williams did something he hasn't done all season. He misjudged a ball, and let Manningham get the best of him on a 85 yard TD. Good play by Manningham.

Those two plays made the day for Nicks and Manningham owners. (myself included). Without them, it was a pretty ugly day for the Giants offense. Eli had four picks, and easily could have had one or two more.

 

[Billy Bats]

I've been so focused on all these silly RB situations then to even have time to worry about my WR's.

But yea, I'm concerned. I Ihope he has a good day. We need a shootout.

7 for 80 and 1

That would be just lovely.

Good call fo shizzle. Some nice work in this thread, I wonder how everyone made out?

It was an interesting matchup going into it for sure. Woodson fell down and gave up the 36 yard TD to Nicks. The coverage on Nicks was pretty good outside of that play. After watching Nicks, I think he's a bit overated around here. Good player. Nowhere near the best WR in the NFL. Actually Greg Jennings looks smoother, and has better RAC ability as well. He made the Giants DBs look silly numerous times. Tramon Williams did something he hasn't done all season. He misjudged a ball, and let Manningham get the best of him on a 85 yard TD. Good play by Manningham.

Those two plays made the day for Nicks and Manningham owners. (myself included). Without them, it was a pretty ugly day for the Giants offense. Eli had four picks, and easily could have had one or two more.

No doubt. I was expecting 40-50 yards and hoping for a TD from Nicks. So I was quite thrilled with his day. Nicks is very good, not the best WR by any means. As far as Jennings, let's not forget Rodgers throwing darts all over the field. While he is very good, it helps to get the ball in stride as well. Alot of WRs would look good catching those passes.

Fun game all around.