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Harbaugh is a 49er! (1 Viewer)

gregjcross

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This is awesome news for Jed York as they had NO BACKUP plan in place when they relieved Singletary. Links to come, its all over Twitter with Adam Schefter.

This is not guaranteed success for SF as they lack a QB and pass rusher, two of the most important positions in the NFL. But this has to be the most positive "PR Win" for the 49ers since Steve Marriucci, what, was it 1997?

One word after all this drama = Wow.

The big question on Harbaugh: Can he succeed as a NFL coach coming out of college. He basically behaves like an NFL coach, he put in pro style systems at Stanford, he groomed a QB to the elite level in two years, he had many respected years as an NFL QB and NFL assistant himself, his brother John is no slouch in BAL doing the same "turn around" for the Ravens with Flacco and a great draft.

This is certainly not that a situation of **** MacPherson from Syracuse 20 years ago. Harbaugh is not a rah rah guy, he is an elite coach.

 
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gregjcross said:
This is awesome news for Jed York as they had NO BACKUP plan in place when they relieved Singletary. Links to come, its all over Twitter with Adam Schefter.This is not guaranteed success for SF as they lack a QB and pass rusher, two of the most important positions in the NFL. But this has to be the most positive "PR Win" for the 49ers since Steve Marriucci, what, was it 1997? One word after all this drama = Wow.
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No pass rusher? Justin Smith comes to mind.
 
Since I haven't followed his coaching career, can someone tell me if he actually utilizes his best offensive players, especially when that person is a TE?

 
I was wondering about something the following yesterday . . . in recent years, which college coaches have had success in the NFL? I'll hang up and listen.

 
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Warpig said:
gregjcross said:
This is awesome news for Jed York as they had NO BACKUP plan in place when they relieved Singletary. Links to come, its all over Twitter with Adam Schefter.This is not guaranteed success for SF as they lack a QB and pass rusher, two of the most important positions in the NFL. But this has to be the most positive "PR Win" for the 49ers since Steve Marriucci, what, was it 1997? One word after all this drama = Wow.
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No pass rusher? Justin Smith comes to mind.
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At OLB, the key spot in the 3-4, they have had Manny Lawson and a hot and cold Ahmad Brooks, its been pretty weak compared to the Packers, Dolphins with Cameron Wake, or what the Steelers have. They dont sack QBs nearly enough. I should have said "Rush OLB" If they change to a 4-3, Justin Smith is still a very key element.
 
David Yudkin said:
I was wondering about something the following yesterday . . . in recent years, which college coaches have had success in the NFL? I hang up and listen.
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I was thinking about that, too - but which of the recent college to NFL coaches have significant NFL playing experience? And then I started wondering what former NFL players have had recent success as NFL coaches? Dungy and Fisher, I guess, and Jason Garrett did well this year. But Singletary was terrible and Kubiak and Del Rio's teams are chronic underachievers.So does that make Harbaugh double sketchy, or does the college coach background cancel out the former NFL player background?
 
That 49ers at Baltimore game just became a Sunday Nighter - Battle of the Brothers to be hyped ad nauseam.

 
At least the 49ers are trying, I hate to see these deadbeat owners that won't spend money. As a 49er fan I am excited, but I was excited about Singletary as well. College coaches don't seem to have a long history of success jumping to the NFL. Jimmy Johnson comes to mind. Any others?

 
David Yudkin said:
I was wondering about something the following yesterday . . . in recent years, which college coaches have had success in the NFL? I hang up and listen.
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His brother went from being a defensive backs coach to being a very good NFL head coach. He comes from a football family. He has NFL experience as a QB and as a coach. He coached a 1-AA team to a championship, where you can't rely on things like scholarship players. All of these facts are infinitely more relevant to his personal situation than anything having to do with Nick Saban or Bobby Petrino.
 
David Yudkin said:
I was wondering about something the following yesterday . . . in recent years, which college coaches have had success in the NFL? I'll hang up and listen.
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Point taken, but most college to NFL coaches (Saban, Spurrier, have come from programs with strong recruiting pedigrees. Stanford went from a one win team to a orange bowl championship in 4 years, with arguably a less talented pool of players than most major college programs (Andrew Luck notwithstanding).But to answer your question, I could say Barry Switzer, but that doesn't really count since that's JJ's team he won with.
 
David Yudkin said:
I was wondering about something the following yesterday . . . in recent years, which college coaches have had success in the NFL? I'll hang up and listen.
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Pete Carroll took a crappy team to the playoffs in his first season this year. :rolleyes:
 
David Yudkin said:
I was wondering about something the following yesterday . . . in recent years, which college coaches have had success in the NFL? I'll hang up and listen.
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Pete Carroll went from college to NFL Division Champ in a year. Harbaugh chose well with SF over Miami as that team of young, underachieving players should respond better to the rah-rah college coaching
 
chinawildman said:
David Yudkin said:
I was wondering about something the following yesterday . . . in recent years, which college coaches have had success in the NFL? I'll hang up and listen.
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Point taken, but most college to NFL coaches (Saban, Spurrier, have come from programs with strong recruiting pedigrees. Stanford went from a one win team to a orange bowl championship in 4 years, with arguably a less talented pool of players than most major college programs (Andrew Luck notwithstanding).But to answer your question, I could say Barry Switzer, but that doesn't really count since that's JJ's team he won with.
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Jimmy Johnson did pretty well I guess.
 
WYNORHINO said:
At least the 49ers are trying, I hate to see these deadbeat owners that won't spend money. As a 49er fan I am excited, but I was excited about Singletary as well. College coaches don't seem to have a long history of success jumping to the NFL. Jimmy Johnson comes to mind. Any others?
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Tom Coughlin, BC to JAXBobby Ross, GTech to SDIMO I think the whole "College coaches don't do well in the pros" is too broad of a predictor in success at the NFL level. There are many other specifics and factors that must be accounted for.
 
The_Man said:
David Yudkin said:
I was wondering about something the following yesterday . . . in recent years, which college coaches have had success in the NFL? I hang up and listen.
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I was thinking about that, too - but which of the recent college to NFL coaches have significant NFL playing experience? And then I started wondering what former NFL players have had recent success as NFL coaches? Dungy and Fisher, I guess, and Jason Garrett did well this year. But Singletary was terrible and Kubiak and Del Rio's teams are chronic underachievers.So does that make Harbaugh double sketchy, or does the college coach background cancel out the former NFL player background?
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Steve Spurrier was a college to NFL coach with significant NFL playing experience. My guess is that Harbaugh will put in a lot more effort that Spurrier at the NFL level.
 
scrumptrulescent said:
valhallan said:
Smart move for Jim.
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How so?
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- You have to strike when the iron is hot. If he stays at Stanford, a subpar year could doom his NFL hopes. - He's from the Bay area, gets to keep his family there- As others mentioned, it's a division full of organizations in transition as compared to the AFC East where you'll have to topple the Patriots and Jets- The 49ers haven't completely botched their draft picks so the cupboard is not bare- The ownership has demonstrated some sense of humility in their quest to get better, unlike many other organizations where he might find a job
 
Bird said:
David Yudkin said:
I was wondering about something the following yesterday . . . in recent years, which college coaches have had success in the NFL? I'll hang up and listen.
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Pete Carroll went from college to NFL Division Champ in a year. Harbaugh chose well with SF over Miami as that team of young, underachieving players should respond better to the rah-rah college coaching
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Still don't know what to make of Carroll as an NFL head coach. He sports a 40-40 regular season career record and 1-2 in the playoffs (not including this post season). To his credit, he's made the playoffs 3 times in 5 seasons as an NFL head coach.
 
Anybody think he will make a move to trade for Josh Johnson as his QB? I grabbed him off waivers in a bunch of dynasty leagues

 
The Jacket said:
Bird said:
Harbaugh chose well with SF over Miami as that team of young, underachieving players should respond better to the rah-rah college coaching
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Yep. That worked well with their last coach, who did exactly that.
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Singletary seemed to have a disconnect with his players that follows suit for Hall of Fame caliber players turned coach. The former player has a hard time figuring out why his player can't do what he's coaching because what made that former player great were things he did by instinct. The coach can't relate to being average.
 
chinawildman said:
WYNORHINO said:
At least the 49ers are trying, I hate to see these deadbeat owners that won't spend money. As a 49er fan I am excited, but I was excited about Singletary as well. College coaches don't seem to have a long history of success jumping to the NFL. Jimmy Johnson comes to mind. Any others?
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Tom Coughlin, BC to JAXBobby Ross, GTech to SDIMO I think the whole "College coaches don't do well in the pros" is too broad of a predictor in success at the NFL level. There are many other specifics and factors that must be accounted for.
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Dennis Green and Steve Mariucci are a couple of other examples from the past 20 years. Mariucci's verdict is probably more mixed, but Green at least had a pretty lengthy HC career before flaming out.
 
chinawildman said:
David Yudkin said:
I was wondering about something the following yesterday . . . in recent years, which college coaches have had success in the NFL? I'll hang up and listen.
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Point taken, but most college to NFL coaches (Saban, Spurrier, have come from programs with strong recruiting pedigrees. Stanford went from a one win team to a orange bowl championship in 4 years, with arguably a less talented pool of players than most major college programs (Andrew Luck notwithstanding).But to answer your question, I could say Barry Switzer, but that doesn't really count since that's JJ's team he won with.
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But Spurrier post USFL and Saban post Cleveland Browns seems left out
 
The Jacket said:
Bird said:
Harbaugh chose well with SF over Miami as that team of young, underachieving players should respond better to the rah-rah college coaching
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Yep. That worked well with their last coach, who did exactly that.
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Did their last coach have head coaching experience? Did he have offensive- or defensive-coordinating experience? Did he know that the HC position had a lot of administrative responsibilites? Was he an Xs and Os type of guy?
 
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Again, I think the sweeping generalization of "college coaches don't translate well to the pros" is way too broad.... For example, Mack Brown and Jim Harbaugh are 2 completely different coaches in completely different situations. It's presumptuous to lump them together into one category and draw a conclusion based on that.

BTW did anyone watch the Orange Bowl? Stanford looks more like a pro team than the niners have in the past 6 years.

 
Dr. Awesome said:
:confetti:Happy days for Niner fans!
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:lmao: You don't get to celebrate you poser. You didn't want him yesterday but now he's a God because he is coaching your team for 3 million less than what he could have gotten from Miami...all board credibility is gone in 60 seconds. :nerd: :lmao: Your still alright Dr.A
 
I do think Harbaugh will be successful in San Fran but they have to bring in a QB. I look for Josh McD to be hired as the OC and for San Fran to trade for Kyle Orton who can work with Crabtree and Davis. Also look for an upgrade at the RB2 spot behind Gore and then a small overhaul on defense.

They can win the division next year and be built to win for many years inside of 3 seasons. Good Luck SF.

 
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Ministry of Pain said:
I do think Harbaugh will be successful in San Fran but they have to bring in a QB. I look for Josh McD to be hired as the OC and for San Fran to trade for Kyle Orton who can work with Crabtree and Davis. Also look for an upgrade at the RB2 spot behind Gore and then a small overhaul on defense.

They can win the division next year and be built to win for many years inside of 3 seasons. Good Luck SF.
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Didn't he turn them down for a HC interview?
 
Ministry of Pain said:
I do think Harbaugh will be successful in San Fran but they have to bring in a QB. I look for Josh McD to be hired as the OC and for San Fran to trade for Kyle Orton who can work with Crabtree and Davis. Also look for an upgrade at the RB2 spot behind Gore and then a small overhaul on defense.They can win the division next year and be built to win for many years inside of 3 seasons. Good Luck SF.
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Josh McD, Jim Harbaugh, Jed York in the same organization. I don't know about that.Why would they need an upgrade at RB #2 with Dixon on the team? Is he that bad?
 
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