HARRISON > Unhappy in Indy? (1 Viewer)

[BeTheMatch]

Thanks for the good information DJ... excellent post and it certainly puts myself (and likely many Harrison owners) at ease a bit.

That said.. I'm just wondering if there might just be a LITTLE more to this than is being let go at the surface.... I guess we'll see next week. Indy faces a fairly weak Passing Defense in Tennessee so Peyton should still light it up once again.. hopefully leaning on Harrison a bit more to help make up for his 1 for 8 performance this week....

Philly knew that if they didn't double cover Marvin, he'd light it up against them. Peyton saw the obvious move, run the ball down their throats. Unfortunately, Harrison was covered better than Wayne as seems typical this year. From watching the game, it doesn't look like Peyton ever looks to Harrison 1st, though. It is pretty much Wayne, TE, RB then Marvin. Am I accurate in that observation?

No, you're not. That might be the most inaccurate thing ever posted on this board - and that's saying a lot.

 

[EdwardCat]

Thanks for the good information DJ... excellent post and it certainly puts myself (and likely many Harrison owners) at ease a bit.

That said.. I'm just wondering if there might just be a LITTLE more to this than is being let go at the surface.... I guess we'll see next week. Indy faces a fairly weak Passing Defense in Tennessee so Peyton should still light it up once again.. hopefully leaning on Harrison a bit more to help make up for his 1 for 8 performance this week....

Philly knew that if they didn't double cover Marvin, he'd light it up against them. Peyton saw the obvious move, run the ball down their throats. Unfortunately, Harrison was covered better than Wayne as seems typical this year. From watching the game, it doesn't look like Peyton ever looks to Harrison 1st, though. It is pretty much Wayne, TE, RB then Marvin. Am I accurate in that observation?

No, you're not. That might be the most inaccurate thing ever posted on this board - and that's saying a lot.

I guess you didn't see the game on Monday. Manning nearly always started out looking down the left side of the field. After that, he'd look towards the middle routes and then towards the sidelines for the backs.

 

[H.K.]

That might be the most inaccurate thing ever posted on this board - and that's saying a lot.

*ahem*

 

[EdwardCat]

That might be the most inaccurate thing ever posted on this board - and that's saying a lot.

*ahem*

Meh...he's just getting his kicks on insulting people. I just ignore such behavior.

 

[H.K.]

That might be the most inaccurate thing ever posted on this board - and that's saying a lot.

*ahem*

Meh...he's just getting his kicks on insulting people. I just ignore such behavior.

Really? I thrive on it...

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

Has Marvin ever had a game like this? How did he respond?

Every year he has games like this. Every year every WR has games like this. Holt, Moss, TO, Marvin, Rice, you name it. This is the WR position in the NFL.Any time the opposing defense cannot stop your RB, the passing game will suffer. Rushing the ball against a soft defense is a safe bet--fewer turnovers and kills the clock.This is non-news, unless somebody was heretofore unaware that Harrison was subject to senescence.

 

[Bankerguy]

I have always thought Marvin was somewhat aloof and disinterested (At times). I have also wondered about his relationship with Manning. (He is always professional about it...but you can see it)

 

[BeTheMatch]

That might be the most inaccurate thing ever posted on this board - and that's saying a lot.

*ahem*

Meh...he's just getting his kicks on insulting people. I just ignore such behavior.

So in your dictionary, "ignore" means to reply to someone? OK. You're still wrong. Just because you have Harrison in a fantasy league and he didn't get as many catches as you would've liked doesn't mean he's become the fourth option on the Colts. To suggest that he has is completely absurd.

 

[EdwardCat]

That might be the most inaccurate thing ever posted on this board - and that's saying a lot.

*ahem*

Meh...he's just getting his kicks on insulting people. I just ignore such behavior.

So in your dictionary, "ignore" means to reply to someone? OK. You're still wrong. Just because you have Harrison in a fantasy league and he didn't get as many catches as you would've liked doesn't mean he's become the fourth option on the Colts. To suggest that he has is completely absurd.

You really need to stop being a jerk. You gain nothing from it. Anyway, here's what fanball has to say about it:

November 28, 2006 2:00 PM ETOn Sunday night, the Colts posted 45 points against the Eagles and rookie running back Joseph Addai scored four touchdowns and ran for 171 yards in his coming-out party. Nearly everyone in Indianapolis was happy. Nearly. Wide receiver Marvin Harrison sulked on the sidelines, headed to the locker room early at halftime, and was generally in a foul mood during his one-catch, eight-yard performance. The perennial fantasy stud owns nine catches for 123 yards and no touchdowns over the last three games and is in danger of finishing with fewer than 10 scores for the first time since 1998. Are his dominant days over?2006G Rec Yards Avg TD11 61 821 13.5 5The Stat: Prior to the 2006 season, Harrison hadn't posted a three-game scoreless streak since weeks 12-14 of the 2002 campaign. He has two such streaks this year.The Quote: "Once we saw how the game was going to go, we knew we'd be running. He and I talked before the game and we were hoping to get him to 1,000 career catches, but it'll happen," head coach Tony Dungy told the Indianapolis Star.Fantasy Analysis: Harrison came into the Eagles game with 987 career receptions, and it's tough to catch 13 balls when Peyton Manning only throws twice in your direction. Harrison hasn't had only nine catches in a three-game span since 1997, and he hasn't had fewer than 123 yards in a three-game stretch since 1996, his rookie season. Thus, we can understand why he and fantasy owners are a little upset right now.We still think the outlook is rosy for Marvin, for two reasons. One, Addai has made sure that opposing defenses can no longer focus solely on stopping the pass. Two, the Colts remaining schedule (at TEN, at JAC, vs. CIN, at HOU, and vs. MIA) looks tasty. Harrison has scored in four straight game against the Titans, he has found the end zone in each of the last three visits to Jacksonville, the Bengals rank last in the league against the pass, and Marv has touchdowns in two consecutive visits to Houston. The Dolphins? If all goes well for the Colts and Harrison, they'll have the top playoff spot wrapped up and he'll have 10 touchdowns by week 17.

 

[BeTheMatch]

That might be the most inaccurate thing ever posted on this board - and that's saying a lot.

*ahem*

Meh...he's just getting his kicks on insulting people. I just ignore such behavior.

So in your dictionary, "ignore" means to reply to someone? OK. You're still wrong. Just because you have Harrison in a fantasy league and he didn't get as many catches as you would've liked doesn't mean he's become the fourth option on the Colts. To suggest that he has is completely absurd.

You really need to stop being a jerk. You gain nothing from it. Anyway, here's what fanball has to say about it:

November 28, 2006 2:00 PM ETOn Sunday night, the Colts posted 45 points against the Eagles and rookie running back Joseph Addai scored four touchdowns and ran for 171 yards in his coming-out party. Nearly everyone in Indianapolis was happy. Nearly. Wide receiver Marvin Harrison sulked on the sidelines, headed to the locker room early at halftime, and was generally in a foul mood during his one-catch, eight-yard performance. The perennial fantasy stud owns nine catches for 123 yards and no touchdowns over the last three games and is in danger of finishing with fewer than 10 scores for the first time since 1998. Are his dominant days over?2006G Rec Yards Avg TD11 61 821 13.5 5The Stat: Prior to the 2006 season, Harrison hadn't posted a three-game scoreless streak since weeks 12-14 of the 2002 campaign. He has two such streaks this year.The Quote: "Once we saw how the game was going to go, we knew we'd be running. He and I talked before the game and we were hoping to get him to 1,000 career catches, but it'll happen," head coach Tony Dungy told the Indianapolis Star.Fantasy Analysis: Harrison came into the Eagles game with 987 career receptions, and it's tough to catch 13 balls when Peyton Manning only throws twice in your direction. Harrison hasn't had only nine catches in a three-game span since 1997, and he hasn't had fewer than 123 yards in a three-game stretch since 1996, his rookie season. Thus, we can understand why he and fantasy owners are a little upset right now.We still think the outlook is rosy for Marvin, for two reasons. One, Addai has made sure that opposing defenses can no longer focus solely on stopping the pass. Two, the Colts remaining schedule (at TEN, at JAC, vs. CIN, at HOU, and vs. MIA) looks tasty. Harrison has scored in four straight game against the Titans, he has found the end zone in each of the last three visits to Jacksonville, the Bengals rank last in the league against the pass, and Marv has touchdowns in two consecutive visits to Houston. The Dolphins? If all goes well for the Colts and Harrison, they'll have the top playoff spot wrapped up and he'll have 10 touchdowns by week 17.

I'm sorry, but if you post things like you think Marvin Harrison is the fourth option on the Colts, someone is going to call you on it. Deal with it.

 

[EdwardCat]

That might be the most inaccurate thing ever posted on this board - and that's saying a lot.

*ahem*

Meh...he's just getting his kicks on insulting people. I just ignore such behavior.

So in your dictionary, "ignore" means to reply to someone? OK. You're still wrong. Just because you have Harrison in a fantasy league and he didn't get as many catches as you would've liked doesn't mean he's become the fourth option on the Colts. To suggest that he has is completely absurd.

You really need to stop being a jerk. You gain nothing from it. Anyway, here's what fanball has to say about it:

November 28, 2006 2:00 PM ETOn Sunday night, the Colts posted 45 points against the Eagles and rookie running back Joseph Addai scored four touchdowns and ran for 171 yards in his coming-out party. Nearly everyone in Indianapolis was happy. Nearly. Wide receiver Marvin Harrison sulked on the sidelines, headed to the locker room early at halftime, and was generally in a foul mood during his one-catch, eight-yard performance. The perennial fantasy stud owns nine catches for 123 yards and no touchdowns over the last three games and is in danger of finishing with fewer than 10 scores for the first time since 1998. Are his dominant days over?2006G Rec Yards Avg TD11 61 821 13.5 5The Stat: Prior to the 2006 season, Harrison hadn't posted a three-game scoreless streak since weeks 12-14 of the 2002 campaign. He has two such streaks this year.The Quote: "Once we saw how the game was going to go, we knew we'd be running. He and I talked before the game and we were hoping to get him to 1,000 career catches, but it'll happen," head coach Tony Dungy told the Indianapolis Star.Fantasy Analysis: Harrison came into the Eagles game with 987 career receptions, and it's tough to catch 13 balls when Peyton Manning only throws twice in your direction. Harrison hasn't had only nine catches in a three-game span since 1997, and he hasn't had fewer than 123 yards in a three-game stretch since 1996, his rookie season. Thus, we can understand why he and fantasy owners are a little upset right now.We still think the outlook is rosy for Marvin, for two reasons. One, Addai has made sure that opposing defenses can no longer focus solely on stopping the pass. Two, the Colts remaining schedule (at TEN, at JAC, vs. CIN, at HOU, and vs. MIA) looks tasty. Harrison has scored in four straight game against the Titans, he has found the end zone in each of the last three visits to Jacksonville, the Bengals rank last in the league against the pass, and Marv has touchdowns in two consecutive visits to Houston. The Dolphins? If all goes well for the Colts and Harrison, they'll have the top playoff spot wrapped up and he'll have 10 touchdowns by week 17.

I'm sorry, but if you post things like you think Marvin Harrison is the fourth option on the Colts, someone is going to call you on it. Deal with it.

Actually, I asked for feedback on my hypothesis. That's a request for mature people to give insight in a thoughtful, constructive manner. Move along...

 

[BeTheMatch]

That might be the most inaccurate thing ever posted on this board - and that's saying a lot.

*ahem*

Meh...he's just getting his kicks on insulting people. I just ignore such behavior.

So in your dictionary, "ignore" means to reply to someone? OK. You're still wrong. Just because you have Harrison in a fantasy league and he didn't get as many catches as you would've liked doesn't mean he's become the fourth option on the Colts. To suggest that he has is completely absurd.

You really need to stop being a jerk. You gain nothing from it. Anyway, here's what fanball has to say about it:

November 28, 2006 2:00 PM ETOn Sunday night, the Colts posted 45 points against the Eagles and rookie running back Joseph Addai scored four touchdowns and ran for 171 yards in his coming-out party. Nearly everyone in Indianapolis was happy. Nearly. Wide receiver Marvin Harrison sulked on the sidelines, headed to the locker room early at halftime, and was generally in a foul mood during his one-catch, eight-yard performance. The perennial fantasy stud owns nine catches for 123 yards and no touchdowns over the last three games and is in danger of finishing with fewer than 10 scores for the first time since 1998. Are his dominant days over?2006G Rec Yards Avg TD11 61 821 13.5 5The Stat: Prior to the 2006 season, Harrison hadn't posted a three-game scoreless streak since weeks 12-14 of the 2002 campaign. He has two such streaks this year.The Quote: "Once we saw how the game was going to go, we knew we'd be running. He and I talked before the game and we were hoping to get him to 1,000 career catches, but it'll happen," head coach Tony Dungy told the Indianapolis Star.Fantasy Analysis: Harrison came into the Eagles game with 987 career receptions, and it's tough to catch 13 balls when Peyton Manning only throws twice in your direction. Harrison hasn't had only nine catches in a three-game span since 1997, and he hasn't had fewer than 123 yards in a three-game stretch since 1996, his rookie season. Thus, we can understand why he and fantasy owners are a little upset right now.We still think the outlook is rosy for Marvin, for two reasons. One, Addai has made sure that opposing defenses can no longer focus solely on stopping the pass. Two, the Colts remaining schedule (at TEN, at JAC, vs. CIN, at HOU, and vs. MIA) looks tasty. Harrison has scored in four straight game against the Titans, he has found the end zone in each of the last three visits to Jacksonville, the Bengals rank last in the league against the pass, and Marv has touchdowns in two consecutive visits to Houston. The Dolphins? If all goes well for the Colts and Harrison, they'll have the top playoff spot wrapped up and he'll have 10 touchdowns by week 17.

I'm sorry, but if you post things like you think Marvin Harrison is the fourth option on the Colts, someone is going to call you on it. Deal with it.

Actually, I asked for feedback on my hypothesis. That's a request for mature people to give insight in a thoughtful, constructive manner. Move along...

I gave feedback. You even responded to it.

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

Good god people could you stop bickering? Both of you.

 

[rascal]

Well based on the targets Harrison was the #4 option in that game. That's the facts whether you like it or not.

***actually he was #5 in targets.

 

[djcolts]

Indy Star columnist Bob Kravitz doesn't buy the Polian spin.

 

[faulkfan]

Thanks for the good information DJ... excellent post and it certainly puts myself (and likely many Harrison owners) at ease a bit.

That said.. I'm just wondering if there might just be a LITTLE more to this than is being let go at the surface.... I guess we'll see next week. Indy faces a fairly weak Passing Defense in Tennessee so Peyton should still light it up once again.. hopefully leaning on Harrison a bit more to help make up for his 1 for 8 performance this week....

Uhhh...NO!Why would a healthy Harrison being used as "the best" blocking WR in the NFL put me at ease. He has been invisible in Indy and if I had been able to trade him for a bag of beans before the deadline I would have. At least if he was pissed about being used as a blocking TE all day there is a chance they'd try and work him into the gameplan again. If he is happy not catching balls then he isn't any good to a fantasy football owner.

 

[BeTheMatch]

It's too bad the trading deadline has passed in most leagues. Because with all the people whining about Marvin Harrison, it seems like he could be stolen from quite a number of owners overreacting to the current circumstances.

 

[FFdork]

Wow, there were a lot of worthless posts in this thread. First off, let me state that I own Wayne in multiple leagues and Harrison in none. Wayne is having a great year, and he may have taken over as the #1, but if he did it's by a very narrow margin (the old 1a and 1b cliche). I fully expect Manning to get the ball to Harrison early and often this week because the Colts offense is good enough to impose its will like that.

Also, people that think the Colts suddenly just became a run-first team are way overreacting to a single game. Addai had his coming out party and thats great, but the Colts were dominating what was already a bad run defense on a team that's pretty much packed it in. Besides, I'm pretty sure the Philly game plan was more concerned with limiting the Colts passing attack. It's not like they suddenly discovered Jim Brown was on their team.

Going forward, if I were Dungy, I would want to continue to conserve a rookie RB's carries to keep him fresh for the playoffs when you'll really need him. I just can't see him suddenly getting 20-30 carries a game for the next 5 weeks. That's just my opinion, but it makes a lot of sense on a team with Superbowl aspirations.

 

[baronson]

i can't even believe people are still posting/reading this thread. i dropped in to see why anyone would even read this crap, and now i know what i've always known: flies are drawn to ####.

this is junk. anyone who thinks Harrison is the #4 option is drunk on moonshine or just stupid. he had only 2 targets in a game?? one game?!?! against a secondary with lito sheppard and brian dawkins?? WOW!!! that is one large sample size!!

people. please refer to the "Chad is no longer a #1 WR" posts from 3 weeks ago. this topic is silly and baseless.

 

[Judge Smails]

As a Harrison owner, I love all of this. He will be targeted early and often, starting this week.

This talk about how one of the premier WR's in NFL history has suddenly become a #4 or 5 option on his own team in 3 short weeks is pure feces.

 

[BeTheMatch]

I called BS on all this crap and was savaged by the loons doing the overreacting. Now that everyone else is slamming them too, they've gone silent. Figures.

 

[H.K.]

I called BS on all this crap and was savaged by the loons doing the overreacting. Now that everyone else is slamming them too, they've gone silent. Figures.

*ahem*

 

[bostonfred]

Going forward, if I were Dungy, I would want to continue to conserve a rookie RB's carries to keep him fresh for the playoffs when you'll really need him. I just can't see him suddenly getting 20-30 carries a game for the next 5 weeks. That's just my opinion, but it makes a lot of sense on a team with Superbowl aspirations.

Isn't that what he's been doing? Conserving him for the second half of the season, then getting him enough carries so he's in a rhythm going into the playoffs? I don't think Dungy expected him to run this well at this point, but I think the plan was to start giving him a bigger load in the second half of the season, not suddenly give him more carries during their first playoff game.

 

[FFdork]

Going forward, if I were Dungy, I would want to continue to conserve a rookie RB's carries to keep him fresh for the playoffs when you'll really need him. I just can't see him suddenly getting 20-30 carries a game for the next 5 weeks. That's just my opinion, but it makes a lot of sense on a team with Superbowl aspirations.

Isn't that what he's been doing? Conserving him for the second half of the season, then getting him enough carries so he's in a rhythm going into the playoffs? I don't think Dungy expected him to run this well at this point, but I think the plan was to start giving him a bigger load in the second half of the season, not suddenly give him more carries during their first playoff game.

Yes, that is what he's been doing and what I expect him to continue to do throughout the regular season. So my point was the Colts are not going to suddenly start giving Addai 30 carries a game or morph into a run-first offense in week 13 as someone was suggesting. It was one game, not a trend. Addai will still be productive, but they'll continue to throw a lot and mix in Rhodes as they had been.

 

[Bob_Magaw]

harrison is pacing for similar reception & yardage numbers as last season, but the TD numbers seem to be down...

it is possible that defenses are playing back & refusing to let harrison beat them deep, forcing them to throw short & run...

if so, that could put a dent in harrison's stats without dissing his ability...

seriously, if YOU were an opposing DC, would you force harrison or addai to beat you? seems like a no brainer...

it did seem like in the past manning & harrison could have their way, not matter how they were defended... at some point, that may no longer be that way with harrison... even if it isn't happening now, it is bound to in future... maybe when he is 40... 50?

 

[bostonfred]

Going forward, if I were Dungy, I would want to continue to conserve a rookie RB's carries to keep him fresh for the playoffs when you'll really need him. I just can't see him suddenly getting 20-30 carries a game for the next 5 weeks. That's just my opinion, but it makes a lot of sense on a team with Superbowl aspirations.

Isn't that what he's been doing? Conserving him for the second half of the season, then getting him enough carries so he's in a rhythm going into the playoffs? I don't think Dungy expected him to run this well at this point, but I think the plan was to start giving him a bigger load in the second half of the season, not suddenly give him more carries during their first playoff game.

Yes, that is what he's been doing and what I expect him to continue to do throughout the regular season. So my point was the Colts are not going to suddenly start giving Addai 30 carries a game or morph into a run-first offense in week 13 as someone was suggesting. It was one game, not a trend. Addai will still be productive, but they'll continue to throw a lot and mix in Rhodes as they had been.

I guess what I'm asking is, if they've been holding him back, then they have him his first heavy load in week 12, why would they then pull back? Dungy's been talking about how they still haven't had a complete game; to me that means they'll be looking to increase his rushing load, although I agree it doesn't necessarily mean 30 carries a game. I honestly think we're going to see Rhodes fall off fairly significantly, with Addai picking up more carries than Rhodes loses, and acting as a fantasy RB1 the rest of the way.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Yep, looks like Harrison's no longer a viable option in Indy's offense

 

[Da Guru]

Marvin is happy now!

 

[The Scorpion]

Yea Harrison is done---too funny posts like this

 

[baronson]

simply put. the people who jumped to conclusions last week are probably terrible fantasy football players. ie. read above and join leagues with those people.

 

[Gamblor]

simply put. the people who jumped to conclusions last week are probably terrible fantasy football players. ie. read above and join leagues with those people.

Good insight here.

 

[baronson]

No WR will perform if they don't get passes thrown to them. Manning/Dungy have eliminated Harrison from the offense. The Colts are a run first team with Addai, and Wayne is the go to guy when they do pass. Not much else needs to be said on the subject.

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[FFdork]

Going forward, if I were Dungy, I would want to continue to conserve a rookie RB's carries to keep him fresh for the playoffs when you'll really need him. I just can't see him suddenly getting 20-30 carries a game for the next 5 weeks. That's just my opinion, but it makes a lot of sense on a team with Superbowl aspirations.

Isn't that what he's been doing? Conserving him for the second half of the season, then getting him enough carries so he's in a rhythm going into the playoffs? I don't think Dungy expected him to run this well at this point, but I think the plan was to start giving him a bigger load in the second half of the season, not suddenly give him more carries during their first playoff game.

Yes, that is what he's been doing and what I expect him to continue to do throughout the regular season. So my point was the Colts are not going to suddenly start giving Addai 30 carries a game or morph into a run-first offense in week 13 as someone was suggesting. It was one game, not a trend. Addai will still be productive, but they'll continue to throw a lot and mix in Rhodes as they had been.

I guess what I'm asking is, if they've been holding him back, then they have him his first heavy load in week 12, why would they then pull back? Dungy's been talking about how they still haven't had a complete game; to me that means they'll be looking to increase his rushing load, although I agree it doesn't necessarily mean 30 carries a game. I honestly think we're going to see Rhodes fall off fairly significantly, with Addai picking up more carries than Rhodes loses, and acting as a fantasy RB1 the rest of the way.

Honestly, today not withstanding, I think Addai will continue to make a decent play as an RB2 with occassional RB1 numbers the rest of the way (it will depend on what he does with his 15-20 touches). Rhodes will continue to get more work than Addai owners would like, but today he just happened to get the TD and an unusual number of targets in the passing game relative to Addai. Everyone will break ankles jumping back off the Addai bandwagon and he'll have a nice week next week. And, no, I don't have Addai in a single league.

 

[H.K.]

No WR will perform if they don't get passes thrown to them. Manning/Dungy have eliminated Harrison from the offense. The Colts are a run first team with Addai, and Wayne is the go to guy when they do pass. Not much else needs to be said on the subject.

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The key to beating the Colts is forcing Manning and Harrison to beat you. The Titans did an excellent job of containing Wayne and Addai, so they let Harrison go unchecked, it worked and they won. Don't let a one game sample size fool you, Wayne is the clear #1. Harrison had at least three drops today that I saw, so his career is pretty much over.

 

[bostonfred]

Going forward, if I were Dungy, I would want to continue to conserve a rookie RB's carries to keep him fresh for the playoffs when you'll really need him. I just can't see him suddenly getting 20-30 carries a game for the next 5 weeks. That's just my opinion, but it makes a lot of sense on a team with Superbowl aspirations.

Isn't that what he's been doing? Conserving him for the second half of the season, then getting him enough carries so he's in a rhythm going into the playoffs? I don't think Dungy expected him to run this well at this point, but I think the plan was to start giving him a bigger load in the second half of the season, not suddenly give him more carries during their first playoff game.

Yes, that is what he's been doing and what I expect him to continue to do throughout the regular season. So my point was the Colts are not going to suddenly start giving Addai 30 carries a game or morph into a run-first offense in week 13 as someone was suggesting. It was one game, not a trend. Addai will still be productive, but they'll continue to throw a lot and mix in Rhodes as they had been.

I guess what I'm asking is, if they've been holding him back, then they have him his first heavy load in week 12, why would they then pull back? Dungy's been talking about how they still haven't had a complete game; to me that means they'll be looking to increase his rushing load, although I agree it doesn't necessarily mean 30 carries a game. I honestly think we're going to see Rhodes fall off fairly significantly, with Addai picking up more carries than Rhodes loses, and acting as a fantasy RB1 the rest of the way.

Honestly, today not withstanding, I think Addai will continue to make a decent play as an RB2 with occassional RB1 numbers the rest of the way (it will depend on what he does with his 15-20 touches). Rhodes will continue to get more work than Addai owners would like, but today he just happened to get the TD and an unusual number of targets in the passing game relative to Addai. Everyone will break ankles jumping back off the Addai bandwagon and he'll have a nice week next week. And, no, I don't have Addai in a single league.

There's no reason to jump off any bandwagon. Addai got more carries than Rhodes today. He ran for a higher YPC. He didn't get the TD and he didn't have a great fantasy day, but that has more to do with the Titans than the Colts. I still think we're looking at a significant move towards Addai over the next several weeks.

 

[rascal]

No WR will perform if they don't get passes thrown to them. Manning/Dungy have eliminated Harrison from the offense. The Colts are a run first team with Addai, and Wayne is the go to guy when they do pass. Not much else needs to be said on the subject.

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The key to beating the Colts is forcing Manning and Harrison to beat you. The Titans did an excellent job of containing Wayne and Addai, so they let Harrison go unchecked, it worked and they won. Don't let a one game sample size fool you, Wayne is the clear #1. Harrison had at least three drops today that I saw, so his career is pretty much over.

So because harrison had three drops his career is likely over? Hopefully that is sarcasm if not then that post should be nominated for the dumbest of the year.

 

[BeTheMatch]

This is already the dumbest post of the year - except for a few doses of reality sprinkled in.

 

[jcuadrado]

fact is there isn't a #1 WR in Indy...they have 2 excellent receivers and whoever is open is going to get the ball....so it could come down to the defense...and who's double teaming who....

Harrison is still a stud and should never be benched on any fantasy team...

 

[Judge Smails]

No WR will perform if they don't get passes thrown to them. Manning/Dungy have eliminated Harrison from the offense. The Colts are a run first team with Addai, and Wayne is the go to guy when they do pass. Not much else needs to be said on the subject.

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The key to beating the Colts is forcing Manning and Harrison to beat you. The Titans did an excellent job of containing Wayne and Addai, so they let Harrison go unchecked, it worked and they won. Don't let a one game sample size fool you, Wayne is the clear #1. Harrison had at least three drops today that I saw, so his career is pretty much over.

No, this moronic expedition is over..

 

[Todem]

Most worthless thread ever.

All you Harrison doubters...join my leagues....now.

 

[FFdork]

Going forward, if I were Dungy, I would want to continue to conserve a rookie RB's carries to keep him fresh for the playoffs when you'll really need him. I just can't see him suddenly getting 20-30 carries a game for the next 5 weeks. That's just my opinion, but it makes a lot of sense on a team with Superbowl aspirations.

Isn't that what he's been doing? Conserving him for the second half of the season, then getting him enough carries so he's in a rhythm going into the playoffs? I don't think Dungy expected him to run this well at this point, but I think the plan was to start giving him a bigger load in the second half of the season, not suddenly give him more carries during their first playoff game.

Yes, that is what he's been doing and what I expect him to continue to do throughout the regular season. So my point was the Colts are not going to suddenly start giving Addai 30 carries a game or morph into a run-first offense in week 13 as someone was suggesting. It was one game, not a trend. Addai will still be productive, but they'll continue to throw a lot and mix in Rhodes as they had been.

I guess what I'm asking is, if they've been holding him back, then they have him his first heavy load in week 12, why would they then pull back? Dungy's been talking about how they still haven't had a complete game; to me that means they'll be looking to increase his rushing load, although I agree it doesn't necessarily mean 30 carries a game. I honestly think we're going to see Rhodes fall off fairly significantly, with Addai picking up more carries than Rhodes loses, and acting as a fantasy RB1 the rest of the way.

Honestly, today not withstanding, I think Addai will continue to make a decent play as an RB2 with occassional RB1 numbers the rest of the way (it will depend on what he does with his 15-20 touches). Rhodes will continue to get more work than Addai owners would like, but today he just happened to get the TD and an unusual number of targets in the passing game relative to Addai. Everyone will break ankles jumping back off the Addai bandwagon and he'll have a nice week next week. And, no, I don't have Addai in a single league.

There's no reason to jump off any bandwagon. Addai got more carries than Rhodes today. He ran for a higher YPC. He didn't get the TD and he didn't have a great fantasy day, but that has more to do with the Titans than the Colts. I still think we're looking at a significant move towards Addai over the next several weeks.

I agree there's no reason to jump off, but people will do it anyway. Last week he was Edge in his prime if not Jim Brown. This week he's chopped liver because Rhodes outscored to him. Overreaction is the rule of the day in FF.

 

[Limp Ditka]

No WR will perform if they don't get passes thrown to them. Manning/Dungy have eliminated Harrison from the offense. The Colts are a run first team with Addai, and Wayne is the go to guy when they do pass. Not much else needs to be said on the subject.

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The key to beating the Colts is forcing Manning and Harrison to beat you. The Titans did an excellent job of containing Wayne and Addai, so they let Harrison go unchecked, it worked and they won. Don't let a one game sample size fool you, Wayne is the clear #1. Harrison had at least three drops today that I saw, so his career is pretty much over.

 

[H.K.]

No WR will perform if they don't get passes thrown to them. Manning/Dungy have eliminated Harrison from the offense. The Colts are a run first team with Addai, and Wayne is the go to guy when they do pass. Not much else needs to be said on the subject.

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The key to beating the Colts is forcing Manning and Harrison to beat you. The Titans did an excellent job of containing Wayne and Addai, so they let Harrison go unchecked, it worked and they won. Don't let a one game sample size fool you, Wayne is the clear #1. Harrison had at least three drops today that I saw, so his career is pretty much over.

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Colts | Harrison suffers hand injury Week 15Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:07:55 -0800ESPN reports Indianapolis Colts WR Marvin Harrison (hand) suffered a hand injury during the Week 15 game.

 

[Limp Ditka]

No WR will perform if they don't get passes thrown to them. Manning/Dungy have eliminated Harrison from the offense. The Colts are a run first team with Addai, and Wayne is the go to guy when they do pass. Not much else needs to be said on the subject.

like this guy

The key to beating the Colts is forcing Manning and Harrison to beat you. The Titans did an excellent job of containing Wayne and Addai, so they let Harrison go unchecked, it worked and they won. Don't let a one game sample size fool you, Wayne is the clear #1. Harrison had at least three drops today that I saw, so his career is pretty much over.

Colts | Harrison suffers hand injury Week 15Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:07:55 -0800ESPN reports Indianapolis Colts WR Marvin Harrison (hand) suffered a hand injury during the Week 15 game.

Hey look everyone, H.K. got a straw. Nice grab!!!!!

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

This one may need to get closed too Shick....this H.K. fella may need a timeout as well.....he already had one topic closed with his fishing trips and his clear disdain for the Colts.

 

[diesel7982]

This one may need to get closed too Shick....this H.K. fella may need a timeout as well.....he already had one topic closed with his fishing trips and his clear disdain for the Colts.

Good idea, take LHUCKS with him.

 

[thayman]

No WR will perform if they don't get passes thrown to them. Manning/Dungy have eliminated Harrison from the offense. The Colts are a run first team with Addai, and Wayne is the go to guy when they do pass. Not much else needs to be said on the subject.

like this guy

The key to beating the Colts is forcing Manning and Harrison to beat you. The Titans did an excellent job of containing Wayne and Addai, so they let Harrison go unchecked, it worked and they won. Don't let a one game sample size fool you, Wayne is the clear #1. Harrison had at least three drops today that I saw, so his career is pretty much over.

Colts | Harrison suffers hand injury Week 15Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:07:55 -0800ESPN reports Indianapolis Colts WR Marvin Harrison (hand) suffered a hand injury during the Week 15 game.

Rooting for and happy with injuries BOOOOO!!!!

 

[H.K.]

Colts | Harrison suffers hand injury Week 15Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:07:55 -0800ESPN reports Indianapolis Colts WR Marvin Harrison (hand) suffered a hand injury during the Week 15 game.

Rooting for and happy with injuries BOOOOO!!!!

Neither. I just posted an update on Harrison's status because I thought it would be helpful for people to know he hurt his hand last night. Nothing more. I do not want him or any other player to get hurt.

 

[thayman]

Colts | Harrison suffers hand injury Week 15Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:07:55 -0800ESPN reports Indianapolis Colts WR Marvin Harrison (hand) suffered a hand injury during the Week 15 game.

Rooting for and happy with injuries BOOOOO!!!!

Neither. I just posted an update on Harrison's status because I thought it would be helpful for people to know he hurt his hand last night. Nothing more. I do not want him or any other player to get hurt.

My bad...it just looked like you were kinda happy about it. Oh well just chalk it up to lost in translation to reading something, rather than hearing somenoe say it.

 

[H.K.]

My bad...it just looked like you were kinda happy about it. Oh well just chalk it up to lost in translation to reading something, rather than hearing somenoe say it.

No problem. The smiley I used was in response to the previous poster, which probably should not have been used on my part.