Harvin to Bills/ Formerly the Harvin to Hawks & Jets (5 Viewers)

[Da Gildz]

Since Fantasy is 98% Frosted Flukes .....

Anyone else think Harvin goes Nutts and explodes this weekend.... low pro putting Geno Smith on map also...just saying

FF is all about these moments all the experts and arm chair QB's sleep on ZzZzz

Harvin is hungry.... Jungle is crazy

English please.

 

[Gvindy]

I did notice Russell Wilson and Golden Tate had good games. Percy is the "third piece" in this Seahawks soap opera. I'm banking he'll be amped up and ready to prove the doubters wrong. He's a what the heck flex or WR3 with upside this week in my mind.

 

[rickyg]

You either have to have horrific options at WR or have tremendous huevos to be starting percy in his first game as a jet.

He's planted firmly on my bench until he busts out and gives me a reason to start him. If I miss a big game so be it.

Wr on a new team with a new playbook and a bad passing game...

 

[Acme CEO]

That list contains a few of the best route running and productive WRs in recent memory. Harvin is a gadget player. A more accurate comparison would be how Devin Hester is doing in Atlanta.

Add: which is around WR 4/5 with one or two blow up weeks and mostly duds.

Antonio Bryant had the best season on that list - was he better than Harvin?

When all said and done, possibly.

Harvin is on his 7th year in the NFL and people are still talking about his "potential" like he's new.

Harvin's the superficially hot chick everyone thinks they want, but eventually dump when they realize the good stuff isn't worth the cray crays that comes with it.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

That list contains a few of the best route running and productive WRs in recent memory. Harvin is a gadget player. A more accurate comparison would be how Devin Hester is doing in Atlanta.

Add: which is around WR 4/5 with one or two blow up weeks and mostly duds.

Antonio Bryant had the best season on that list - was he better than Harvin?

When all said and done, possibly.

Harvin is on his 7th year in the NFL and people are still talking about his "potential" like he's new.

Harvin's the superficially hot chick everyone thinks they want, but eventually dump when they realize the good stuff isn't worth the cray crays that comes with it.

Potential?

Harvin was a WR2 for two years and a WR1 for a year and a half after that. He's already lived up to his potential, if not beyond it.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Rotoworld:

Percy Harvin - WR - Jets

ESPN Jets reporter Rich Cimini said New York wants to make Harvin a "downfield threat."

Harvin was used as essentially a pass-catching running back in Seattle, catching balls at or near the line of scrimmage and being asked to make plays himself. The Jets will likely push Harvin down the field more, which should help his fantasy value in the long run. With his role in the offense still unclear, Harvin is a risky fantasy start this week, but he outlook moving forward is a couple shades brighter.

Source: ESPN New York

Oct 25 - 9:10 AM

Don't they need to have a halfway decent qb to make anybody a downfield threat? Regardless--I see boom/bust wr3 on a week to week basis with Harvin on the Jets.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Since Fantasy is 98% Frosted Flukes .....

Anyone else think Harvin goes Nutts and explodes this weekend.... low pro putting Geno Smith on map also...just saying

FF is all about these moments all the experts and arm chair QB's sleep on ZzZzz

Harvin is hungry.... Jungle is crazy

Good lord..now I have clear evidence that Jim Rome has ruined the English language.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Rotoworld:

Percy Harvin - WR - Jets

ESPN Jets reporter Rich Cimini said New York wants to make Harvin a "downfield threat."

Harvin was used as essentially a pass-catching running back in Seattle, catching balls at or near the line of scrimmage and being asked to make plays himself. The Jets will likely push Harvin down the field more, which should help his fantasy value in the long run. With his role in the offense still unclear, Harvin is a risky fantasy start this week, but he outlook moving forward is a couple shades brighter.

Source: ESPN New York

Oct 25 - 9:10 AM

Don't they need to have a halfway decent qb to make anybody a downfield threat? Regardless--I see boom/bust wr3 on a week to week basis with Harvin on the Jets.

Worked OK with Christian ponder.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Rotoworld:

Percy Harvin - WR - Jets

ESPN Jets reporter Rich Cimini said New York wants to make Harvin a "downfield threat."Harvin was used as essentially a pass-catching running back in Seattle, catching balls at or near the line of scrimmage and being asked to make plays himself. The Jets will likely push Harvin down the field more, which should help his fantasy value in the long run. With his role in the offense still unclear, Harvin is a risky fantasy start this week, but he outlook moving forward is a couple shades brighter.

Source: ESPN New York

Oct 25 - 9:10 AM

Don't they need to have a halfway decent qb to make anybody a downfield threat? Regardless--I see boom/bust wr3 on a week to week basis with Harvin on the Jets.

Worked OK with Christian ponder.

Umm--are you forgetting that AP was there as well? The threat of that running game helped open things up for Harvin. I would hardly put Chris Ivory and CJ?K anywhere in the same planet as AP

 

[hines]

That list contains a few of the best route running and productive WRs in recent memory. Harvin is a gadget player. A more accurate comparison would be how Devin Hester is doing in Atlanta.

Add: which is around WR 4/5 with one or two blow up weeks and mostly duds.

this is a comically awful comparison. you might want to look up the stats of Harvin and Hester before you make such a bad comparison

 

[Acme CEO]

That list contains a few of the best route running and productive WRs in recent memory. Harvin is a gadget player. A more accurate comparison would be how Devin Hester is doing in Atlanta.

Add: which is around WR 4/5 with one or two blow up weeks and mostly duds.

this is a comically awful comparison. you might want to look up the stats of Harvin and Hester before you make such a bad comparison

reread.

comparing harvin to rice and moss is comical.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Rotoworld:

Percy Harvin - WR - Jets

ESPN Jets reporter Rich Cimini said New York wants to make Harvin a "downfield threat."Harvin was used as essentially a pass-catching running back in Seattle, catching balls at or near the line of scrimmage and being asked to make plays himself. The Jets will likely push Harvin down the field more, which should help his fantasy value in the long run. With his role in the offense still unclear, Harvin is a risky fantasy start this week, but he outlook moving forward is a couple shades brighter.

Source: ESPN New York

Oct 25 - 9:10 AM

Don't they need to have a halfway decent qb to make anybody a downfield threat? Regardless--I see boom/bust wr3 on a week to week basis with Harvin on the Jets.

Worked OK with Christian ponder.

Umm--are you forgetting that AP was there as well? The threat of that running game helped open things up for Harvin. I would hardly put Chris Ivory and CJ?K anywhere in the same planet as AP

Harvin with Ponder in games where Peterson did not play:

109/1

7/0

104/1

128/1

Pace = 1392yds 12 TDs

 

[Witz]

Rotoworld:

Percy Harvin - WR - Jets

ESPN Jets reporter Rich Cimini said New York wants to make Harvin a "downfield threat."Harvin was used as essentially a pass-catching running back in Seattle, catching balls at or near the line of scrimmage and being asked to make plays himself. The Jets will likely push Harvin down the field more, which should help his fantasy value in the long run. With his role in the offense still unclear, Harvin is a risky fantasy start this week, but he outlook moving forward is a couple shades brighter.

Source: ESPN New York

Oct 25 - 9:10 AM

Don't they need to have a halfway decent qb to make anybody a downfield threat? Regardless--I see boom/bust wr3 on a week to week basis with Harvin on the Jets.

Worked OK with Christian ponder.

Umm--are you forgetting that AP was there as well? The threat of that running game helped open things up for Harvin. I would hardly put Chris Ivory and CJ?K anywhere in the same planet as AP

Jets are the 5th ranked rushing team so far this year. Don't let facts get in your way though.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Rotoworld:

Percy Harvin - WR - Jets

ESPN Jets reporter Rich Cimini said New York wants to make Harvin a "downfield threat."Harvin was used as essentially a pass-catching running back in Seattle, catching balls at or near the line of scrimmage and being asked to make plays himself. The Jets will likely push Harvin down the field more, which should help his fantasy value in the long run. With his role in the offense still unclear, Harvin is a risky fantasy start this week, but he outlook moving forward is a couple shades brighter.

Source: ESPN New York

Oct 25 - 9:10 AM

Don't they need to have a halfway decent qb to make anybody a downfield threat? Regardless--I see boom/bust wr3 on a week to week basis with Harvin on the Jets.

Worked OK with Christian ponder.

Umm--are you forgetting that AP was there as well? The threat of that running game helped open things up for Harvin. I would hardly put Chris Ivory and CJ?K anywhere in the same planet as AP

Jets are the 5th ranked rushing team so far this year. Don't let facts get in your way though.

when did i say the Jets aren't an above average rushing team this season? I said Ivory and cj2k aren't in the same world as AP was when he was playing with Harvin. Don't let your lack of comprehension get in the way.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Rotoworld:

Percy Harvin - WR - Jets

ESPN Jets reporter Rich Cimini said New York wants to make Harvin a "downfield threat."Harvin was used as essentially a pass-catching running back in Seattle, catching balls at or near the line of scrimmage and being asked to make plays himself. The Jets will likely push Harvin down the field more, which should help his fantasy value in the long run. With his role in the offense still unclear, Harvin is a risky fantasy start this week, but he outlook moving forward is a couple shades brighter.

Source: ESPN New York

Oct 25 - 9:10 AM

Don't they need to have a halfway decent qb to make anybody a downfield threat? Regardless--I see boom/bust wr3 on a week to week basis with Harvin on the Jets.

Worked OK with Christian ponder.

Umm--are you forgetting that AP was there as well? The threat of that running game helped open things up for Harvin. I would hardly put Chris Ivory and CJ?K anywhere in the same planet as AP

Harvin with Ponder in games where Peterson did not play:

109/1

7/0

104/1

128/1

Pace = 1392yds 12 TDs

You should always extrapolate entire seasons stats based on four games--its very accurate. In fact--you should extrapolate stats from the first four chargers games this season for Eddie Royal--the results would be mind blowing. You can do the same thing for the first four games of the 2013 season from Royal as well--and the numbers would be insane. Harvin is a great talent--but recent history has shown that he's not the same player as he was before. It's possible that his talent is the same--but his durability, mental toughness and frequent recent inconsistency makes him an untrustworthy asset at this point in time. The fact that Geno is a streaky and inconsistent qb at best--playing under a coach that has not been very offensively dynamic--leads me to be skeptical that Harvin will be a week to week consistent downfield threat. I'll believe it when I see it---and I'll believe it when it happens--I'm not going to believe it because of four random games from years ago.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Rotoworld:

Percy Harvin - WR - Jets

ESPN Jets reporter Rich Cimini said New York wants to make Harvin a "downfield threat."Harvin was used as essentially a pass-catching running back in Seattle, catching balls at or near the line of scrimmage and being asked to make plays himself. The Jets will likely push Harvin down the field more, which should help his fantasy value in the long run. With his role in the offense still unclear, Harvin is a risky fantasy start this week, but he outlook moving forward is a couple shades brighter.

Source: ESPN New York

Oct 25 - 9:10 AM

Don't they need to have a halfway decent qb to make anybody a downfield threat? Regardless--I see boom/bust wr3 on a week to week basis with Harvin on the Jets.

Worked OK with Christian ponder.

Umm--are you forgetting that AP was there as well? The threat of that running game helped open things up for Harvin. I would hardly put Chris Ivory and CJ?K anywhere in the same planet as AP

Harvin with Ponder in games where Peterson did not play:

109/1

7/0

104/1

128/1

Pace = 1392yds 12 TDs

You should always extrapolate entire seasons stats based on four games--its very accurate. In fact--you should extrapolate stats from the first four chargers games this season for Eddie Royal--the results would be mind blowing. You can do the same thing for the first four games of the 2013 season from Royal as well--and the numbers would be insane. Harvin is a great talent--but recent history has shown that he's not the same player as he was before. It's possible that his talent is the same--but his durability, mental toughness and frequent recent inconsistency makes him an untrustworthy asset at this point in time. The fact that Geno is a streaky and inconsistent qb at best--playing under a coach that has not been very offensively dynamic--leads me to be skeptical that Harvin will be a week to week consistent downfield threat. I'll believe it when I see it---and I'll believe it when it happens--I'm not going to believe it because of four random games from years ago.

You've moved the goalposts around so much that I don't even know what we're discussing anymore.

I was simply responding to the point that Harvin can't be a downfield threat or consistent fantasy player without a good QB. He's done it before, several times. Statistically, Harvin's WORST two seasons have come when he's had good QB play, while his three best seasons have all come alongside poor QB play.

He's a unique player and I'm not sure that a top end QB looking for a WR running precise timing routes is ideal for him. At least so far, he's benefited from the opposite.

Regardless, there are factors far beyond Geno that will dictate how things work out for Harvin. He's been a stud with QB play that is far worse than Geno, both with and without the help of an elite running game.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Rotoworld:

Percy Harvin - WR - Jets

ESPN Jets reporter Rich Cimini said New York wants to make Harvin a "downfield threat."Harvin was used as essentially a pass-catching running back in Seattle, catching balls at or near the line of scrimmage and being asked to make plays himself. The Jets will likely push Harvin down the field more, which should help his fantasy value in the long run. With his role in the offense still unclear, Harvin is a risky fantasy start this week, but he outlook moving forward is a couple shades brighter.

Source: ESPN New York

Oct 25 - 9:10 AM

Don't they need to have a halfway decent qb to make anybody a downfield threat? Regardless--I see boom/bust wr3 on a week to week basis with Harvin on the Jets.

Worked OK with Christian ponder.

Umm--are you forgetting that AP was there as well? The threat of that running game helped open things up for Harvin. I would hardly put Chris Ivory and CJ?K anywhere in the same planet as AP

Harvin with Ponder in games where Peterson did not play:

109/1

7/0

104/1

128/1

Pace = 1392yds 12 TDs

You should always extrapolate entire seasons stats based on four games--its very accurate. In fact--you should extrapolate stats from the first four chargers games this season for Eddie Royal--the results would be mind blowing. You can do the same thing for the first four games of the 2013 season from Royal as well--and the numbers would be insane. Harvin is a great talent--but recent history has shown that he's not the same player as he was before. It's possible that his talent is the same--but his durability, mental toughness and frequent recent inconsistency makes him an untrustworthy asset at this point in time. The fact that Geno is a streaky and inconsistent qb at best--playing under a coach that has not been very offensively dynamic--leads me to be skeptical that Harvin will be a week to week consistent downfield threat. I'll believe it when I see it---and I'll believe it when it happens--I'm not going to believe it because of four random games from years ago.

You've moved the goalposts around so much that I don't even know what we're discussing anymore.

I was simply responding to the point that Harvin can't be a downfield threat or consistent fantasy player without a good QB. He's done it before, several times. Statistically, Harvin's WORST two seasons have come when he's had good QB play, while his three best seasons have all come alongside poor QB play.

He's a unique player and I'm not sure that a top end QB looking for a WR running precise timing routes is ideal for him. At least so far, he's benefited from the opposite.

Regardless, there are factors far beyond Geno that will dictate how things work out for Harvin. He's been a stud with QB play that is far worse than Geno, both with and without the help of an elite running game.

The thing that we are not seeing eye to eye on is that just because somebody has done something in the past--does not mean they will do it again. Dwayne Bowe was WR1 material at a similar point of time when Harvin was a beast..does that mean he's WR1 material now? He's proven he was that before? That is essentially your argument. If anything--since Harvins best years--the only thing he has proven is that he's a hot head, he's mentally weak, has durability issues, he does have big game potential--but those big games have generally been surrounded by loads of duds. The guy was in a dream situation on a Super Bowl team--with an elite running game, a great defense, and one of the best young qb's in the game--and managed to be a d-bag, locker room cancer and ultimately unhappy. If he couldn't find happiness there--I'm not willing to bet on him playing in the pressure filled media capitol of the world, under a coach who has next to zero offensive awareness, with a qb that is the sheer definition of inconsistent. I would argue that at this point in time--Cordarrelle is at least as explosive a player as Harvin--and is playing with a questionable qb--and where has that gotten him? Harvin is a better threat in reality football at this point in time than he is in fantasy football. He'll probably have a couple really big fantasy games that'll lure you in and make you trust him--and the moment you stick with him--he'll give you three or four duds in a row and hurt your team. I could very well be wrong--and frankly--I hope I'm wrong--but am I willing to bet on it at this point in time--no. Am I willing to bet that he'll be a viable, consistent deep threat wr from week to week--no (but I can and will have zero problem believing it when I see it) .What he's done with below average qb's in the past are not going to blind me from the below average fantasy player he has been in recent times--as well as blind me from his massive potential of being made of glass, a locker room cancer, mentally weak, and a bad teammate.

 

[oswizzle]

anyone got the balls to start him today

 

[Gvindy]

Rolling with him in my return league what the heck.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

He's in the locker room now.

 

[Run It Up]

Couldn't get an answer from the game thread.

In a PPR league with return yardage pts (1 per 20 kick/punt return yards), he had 3 rec and 4 carries for 50 total yards, but finished with 16 pts.

Telling me he had 160 kick/punt return yards?

 

[Adam Harstad]

Couldn't get an answer from the game thread.

In a PPR league with return yardage pts (1 per 20 kick/punt return yards), he had 3 rec and 4 carries for 50 total yards, but finished with 16 pts.

Telling me he had 160 kick/punt return yards?

144 kickoff return yards on 6 attempts.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Percy Harvin had three catches for 22 yards in Sunday's Week 8 loss to the Bills.

He added four carries for 28 yards. Harvin was heavily involved in the game plan, lining up in the backfield in multiple packages. He was targeted nine times, behind only Eric Decker. His usage was encouraging, but the Jets quarterback situation limits his upside going forward. Harvin will be just a boom-or-bust WR3 in Week 9.

Oct 26 - 6:05 PM

 

[jvdesigns2002]

For those of whom who believe that Harvin thrives with poor qb play--go and pick him up NOW. I'm personally not touching him with a ten foot pole until I see him produce halfway consistent and decent results in the train wreck that is the New York Jets. However--I did read that a few Shark Pool members started him in return yard leagues--and I have to say that he is a far more viable option in those scoring formats. With that being said--I will admit that I do see him having at least a couple big games ROS.

 

[prgromek]

me like

 

[cstu]

That list contains a few of the best route running and productive WRs in recent memory. Harvin is a gadget player. A more accurate comparison would be how Devin Hester is doing in Atlanta.

Add: which is around WR 4/5 with one or two blow up weeks and mostly duds.

Antonio Bryant had the best season on that list - was he better than Harvin?

When all said and done, possibly.

Harvin is on his 7th year in the NFL and people are still talking about his "potential" like he's new.

Harvin's the superficially hot chick everyone thinks they want, but eventually dump when they realize the good stuff isn't worth the cray crays that comes with it.

 

[Run It Up]

Started Hawkins over Harvin this week - I'm sorry.

 

[dickey moe]

Started Hawkins over Harvin this week - I'm sorry.

+1

 

[Fever in the Funkhouse]

I will keep starting him (return yardage). Looked like he got a lot of snaps today too

 

[jonboltz]

For those that played him, MFL still showing a lost fumble that was overturned. He shouldn't be charged on that fumble.

 

[JimmyJabroni]

Finally this guy came through for me

I had to start him out of desperation and got lucky

 

[Bucky86]

Interesting...

 

[Gvindy]

I will keep starting him (return yardage). Looked like he got a lot of snaps today too

Yep thats the only reason I did start him. They definitely are featuring him though. Should be an interesting ROS.

 

[Slapdash]

129 yards, wow. Are they getting it to him downfield too?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

129 yards, wow. Are they getting it to him downfield too?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/0ap3000000421394/Wk-9-Can-t-Miss-Play-Leap-Frog-Percy

 

[Slapdash]

129 yards, wow. Are they getting it to him downfield too?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/0ap3000000421394/Wk-9-Can-t-Miss-Play-Leap-Frog-Percy

Thanks, that is what I like to see.

 

[Adam Harstad]

129 yards, wow. Are they getting it to him downfield too?

137 yards.

 

[mbuehner]

Feelin pretty money in PPR. Will have to see though, seemed like teams got tape on him in Seattle and it really shut him down.

 

[Faust]

What a trip: Percy Harvin enjoys breakout performance

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/45588/what-a-trip-percy-harvin-enjoys-breakout-peformance

 

[JimmyJabroni]

The Jets are going to have to do something, anything to try to get people watching their games for the rest of their sorry season. Is it possible they turn the 2nd half of the season into the Percy Harvin show in order to try to do that?

 

[Slapdash]

Feelin pretty money in PPR. Will have to see though, seemed like teams got tape on him in Seattle and it really shut him down.

If he is only going to be used on screens and handoffs, it wasn't exactly hard to shut that down.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

The Jets are going to have to do something, anything to try to get people watching their games for the rest of their sorry season. Is it possible they turn the 2nd half of the season into the Percy Harvin show in order to try to do that?

I think this is why they made the deal. They knew the season was over, why not give the fans a sideshow to make them forget that the team sucks?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

of course in one league I have to start him this week, after his giant performance, I expect a 2 catch 10 yard effort

 

[Slapdash]

The Jets are going to have to do something, anything to try to get people watching their games for the rest of their sorry season. Is it possible they turn the 2nd half of the season into the Percy Harvin show in order to try to do that?

I think this is why they made the deal. They knew the season was over, why not give the fans a sideshow to make them forget that the team sucks?

Or maybe it was an opportunity to acquire a more talented weapon than anything else they have on offense for a mid-round pick.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

The Jets are going to have to do something, anything to try to get people watching their games for the rest of their sorry season. Is it possible they turn the 2nd half of the season into the Percy Harvin show in order to try to do that?

I think this is why they made the deal. They knew the season was over, why not give the fans a sideshow to make them forget that the team sucks?

Or maybe it was an opportunity to acquire a more talented weapon than anything else they have on offense for a mid-round pick.

Well that's what they are going to tell you.

 

[Hooper31]

I'm very curious to know what the Jets are going to do with Harvin when this season is over.

1. Cut him loose. He only cost his salary for half of this season and a 6th round pick. Harvin becomes an unrestricted free agent and gets to cash in again. Someone will pay him.

2. Keep him under his current contract at a big dollar figure next season ($10.5 million). This would also mean giving up a 4th instead of a 6th to Seattle.

 

[JFS171]

Feelin pretty money in PPR. Will have to see though, seemed like teams got tape on him in Seattle and it really shut him down.

If he is only going to be used on screens and handoffs, it wasn't exactly hard to shut that down.

This seemed pretty easy to see coming. Harvin was a stud in Minnesota with an annual #### show at QB. He goes to Seattle and has the injury, then is pigeon-holed for half a season before being traded. For the life of me, I have no idea what Seattle thought they were doing with Harvin. The disappointment narrative and clubhouse cancer feels very contrived IMO. He may be tough to deal with, but he's also a baller. And even on the first part, there's a whole lot of he said, she said.

All I know is he's been in NYC for less than 2 weeks and he drops 11-129 with a run for 8 yards and another 88 yards returning (which helps those of us in return yardage leagues). He's a WR that can also be super dangerous on screens and out of the backfield. Why Seattle felt handcuffed to "use him in a special way" by only giving him misdirection plays and passes less than 5 yards down the field is beyond me.

Seattle's FO and coaching staff has done a whole lot right... but they deserve a ton of criticism for how they handled that entire situaiton.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Feelin pretty money in PPR. Will have to see though, seemed like teams got tape on him in Seattle and it really shut him down.

If he is only going to be used on screens and handoffs, it wasn't exactly hard to shut that down.

This seemed pretty easy to see coming. Harvin was a stud in Minnesota with an annual #### show at QB. He goes to Seattle and has the injury, then is pigeon-holed for half a season before being traded. For the life of me, I have no idea what Seattle thought they were doing with Harvin. The disappointment narrative and clubhouse cancer feels very contrived IMO. He may be tough to deal with, but he's also a baller. And even on the first part, there's a whole lot of he said, she said.

All I know is he's been in NYC for less than 2 weeks and he drops 11-129 with a run for 8 yards and another 88 yards returning (which helps those of us in return yardage leagues). He's a WR that can also be super dangerous on screens and out of the backfield. Why Seattle felt handcuffed to "use him in a special way" by only giving him misdirection plays and passes less than 5 yards down the field is beyond me.

Seattle's FO and coaching staff has done a whole lot right... but they deserve a ton of criticism for how they handled that entire situaiton.

Agreed 100%. And like I mentioned in another thread, it's weird to see how Patterson and Harvin were being used in the exactly opposite roles they should be.

They're both great with the ball in their hands, but at this point in their careers Harvin is a fully developed WR while Patterson is not. Harvin should have been used like Patterson was (full-time WR with the occasional screen/run) while Patterson should have been used like Harvin was (90% gadget player, 10% receiver). Yet both were pigeon-holed into the opposite role.

 

[Henry Ford]

I'm very curious to know what the Jets are going to do with Harvin when this season is over.

1. Cut him loose. He only cost his salary for half of this season and a 6th round pick. Harvin becomes an unrestricted free agent and gets to cash in again. Someone will pay him.

2. Keep him under his current contract at a big dollar figure next season ($10.5 million). This would also mean giving up a 4th instead of a 6th to Seattle.

If they're going to cut him loose, the trade makes no sense at all to me.

 

[JFS171]

I'm very curious to know what the Jets are going to do with Harvin when this season is over.

1. Cut him loose. He only cost his salary for half of this season and a 6th round pick. Harvin becomes an unrestricted free agent and gets to cash in again. Someone will pay him.

2. Keep him under his current contract at a big dollar figure next season ($10.5 million). This would also mean giving up a 4th instead of a 6th to Seattle.

If they're going to cut him loose, the trade makes no sense at all to me.

They stole him in the first place, and while his salary isn't cheap, he's probably worth it as a player. Considering their lack of playmakers and ridiculous cap space, I'd imagine they hang onto him.