Macdaddy_2004
Footballguy
Just wondering as it looks like the NYG/MINN game could get pushed out to perhaps week18? Not sure how the NFL is gonna handle the situation - how will the FF community handle it?
I just sent an email out to the league ...Basically, if the game is played during week 14, Vikings / Giants players will receive credit. If played after the start of week 15 (Thurs) you will not get credit. As a commish, I am impacted by this since Bradshaw is my starting RB. I advised them to proceed with caution. I cannot postpone the playoffs because of this game.Just wondering as it looks like the NYG/MINN game could get pushed out to perhaps week18? Not sure how the NFL is gonna handle the situation - how will the FF community handle it?
the NYG/MINN game could get pushed out to perhaps week18?
The correct thing to do, if this were to happen, which it won't, is to play your normal lineup. Then add the points when the NY game is played. Until then both teams fill out lineups as if they won the game and moved on in the playoffs (for week 15) . After adding in the points from the NY/MINN game, you find who really won the game. That team moves on.I just sent an email out to the league ...Basically, if the game is played during week 14, Vikings / Giants players will receive credit. If played after the start of week 15 (Thurs) you will not get credit. As a commish, I am impacted by this since Bradshaw is my starting RB. I advised them to proceed with caution. I cannot postpone the playoffs because of this game.Just wondering as it looks like the NYG/MINN game could get pushed out to perhaps week18? Not sure how the NFL is gonna handle the situation - how will the FF community handle it?
The problem is ... what if by a small chance that the game is pushed beyond week 14? IMO, it is impossible to go back and adjust the points since the 2nd round has already been set. It could potentially change the outcome. And, you can't postpone the playoffs since many teams rest their starters week 17. I actually like the "emailing an alternate" plan.The correct thing to do, if this were to happen, which it won't, is to play your normal lineup. Then add the points when the NY game is played. Until then both teams fill out lineups as if they won the game and moved on in the playoffs (for week 15) . After adding in the points from the NY/MINN game, you find who really won the game. That team moves on.I just sent an email out to the league ...Basically, if the game is played during week 14, Vikings / Giants players will receive credit. If played after the start of week 15 (Thurs) you will not get credit. As a commish, I am impacted by this since Bradshaw is my starting RB. I advised them to proceed with caution. I cannot postpone the playoffs because of this game.Just wondering as it looks like the NYG/MINN game could get pushed out to perhaps week18? Not sure how the NFL is gonna handle the situation - how will the FF community handle it?
Owning Bradshaw, NIcks & Giants D, I'm pushing for using weekly averages.
Hey, it's worth a shotanybody that goes for that should be banned from ff forever.
I've heard worse ideas if the game isn't played this week. I have Peterson, Bradshaw and Gerhart as 3 of my 5 rbs. I might as well let the 9-5 team that didn't make the playoffs sub in for me and we'll split any profits.Hey, it's worth a shotanybody that goes for that should be banned from ff forever.
Big difference between swapping byes and losing a starter for the playoffsSomebody help me with my memory here. Didnt we have a game a few years back either cancelled or moved back?.... Bye weeks changed around to accomodate the game at a later date? I'm thinking it was from the flood in Louisiana messing with a game date. If so precedent has been set in this type of situation. I think to be consistant I, as the commish, will have to rule the same way. Hopefully the game doesnt get moved from this week (not sure how this one could be really). I like the contingency plan idea except for the fact that IBELEIVE I ruled in the last situation that when the game got postponed people were sol. Please spmebody tell me I didnt dream the game that was postponed?
Well there IS a difference for sure because the stakes are higher but I also cant think of a situation where league rules change because it is a playoff game? I just looked at the playoffs (nfl playoffs) and they start the week following week 17 so unless they decide to play 2 games in one week or completely rearange the playoff schedule I have to think the game will be played this week. Hopefully. Whata nightmare decision for us commishs.Big difference between swapping byes and losing a starter for the playoffsSomebody help me with my memory here. Didnt we have a game a few years back either cancelled or moved back?.... Bye weeks changed around to accomodate the game at a later date? I'm thinking it was from the flood in Louisiana messing with a game date. If so precedent has been set in this type of situation. I think to be consistant I, as the commish, will have to rule the same way. Hopefully the game doesnt get moved from this week (not sure how this one could be really). I like the contingency plan idea except for the fact that IBELEIVE I ruled in the last situation that when the game got postponed people were sol. Please spmebody tell me I didnt dream the game that was postponed?
I like the pushing the playoffs back a week idea the least. Some owners build their teams based on matchups. To tell them those matchups now change is totally unfair to them. Thats over and above players sitting issues that makes week 16 superbowls preferable in the first place.This is huge as some of the owners have rode the NYG to the playoffs and to give them zeros is crazy. I am actually debating about a few items:
[*]Get an alternate player list ONLY if the NFL cancels the game... Can't see it happening, but if they do you are covered.
[*]If the NYG/MIN game is played at all during week 14, the players count as normal
[*]If the game is postponed to a future week, I am debating about either pushing that FF matchup for that week and scoring manually the rest of the playoffs. I debated about pushing the playoffs off a week, but then you run the risk of Wk 17 and having teams sit players to rest. So in a nutshell the matchups will be recalculated after the season based on my playoff seeding rules. I'd prefer not to screw an owner over because of bad luck.
Isn't that what fantasy football is about? I mean, we can't control injuries etc ... so how is this any different? I think an alternate player works just fine and I own Bradshaw in 2 out of 3 playoffs that I'm in.This is huge as some of the owners have rode the NYG to the playoffs and to give them zeros is crazy. I am actually debating about a few items:
[*]Get an alternate player list ONLY if the NFL cancels the game... Can't see it happening, but if they do you are covered.
[*]If the NYG/MIN game is played at all during week 14, the players count as normal
[*]If the game is postponed to a future week, I am debating about either pushing that FF matchup for that week and scoring manually the rest of the playoffs. I debated about pushing the playoffs off a week, but then you run the risk of Wk 17 and having teams sit players to rest. So in a nutshell the matchups will be recalculated after the season based on my playoff seeding rules. I'd prefer not to screw an owner over because of bad luck.
The game will be played sometime. Just add in the scores retroactively, its not like you play fantasy defense against your opponent.Isn't that what fantasy football is about? I mean, we can't control injuries etc ... so how is this any different? I think an alternate player works just fine and I own Bradshaw in 2 out of 3 playoffs that I'm in.This is huge as some of the owners have rode the NYG to the playoffs and to give them zeros is crazy. I am actually debating about a few items:
[*]Get an alternate player list ONLY if the NFL cancels the game... Can't see it happening, but if they do you are covered.
[*]If the NYG/MIN game is played at all during week 14, the players count as normal
[*]If the game is postponed to a future week, I am debating about either pushing that FF matchup for that week and scoring manually the rest of the playoffs. I debated about pushing the playoffs off a week, but then you run the risk of Wk 17 and having teams sit players to rest. So in a nutshell the matchups will be recalculated after the season based on my playoff seeding rules. I'd prefer not to screw an owner over because of bad luck.
Applying scores retroactively may impact the outcome of the game, thus impacting the outcome of the league winner. Not sure how this is any different than injuries or other last minute issues like a suspension. Do we retroactively apply points and postpone playoffs for players on a suspension that we find out about the day of?The game will be played sometime. Just add in the scores retroactively, its not like you play fantasy defense against your opponent.Isn't that what fantasy football is about? I mean, we can't control injuries etc ... so how is this any different? I think an alternate player works just fine and I own Bradshaw in 2 out of 3 playoffs that I'm in.This is huge as some of the owners have rode the NYG to the playoffs and to give them zeros is crazy. I am actually debating about a few items:
[*]Get an alternate player list ONLY if the NFL cancels the game... Can't see it happening, but if they do you are covered.
[*]If the NYG/MIN game is played at all during week 14, the players count as normal
[*]If the game is postponed to a future week, I am debating about either pushing that FF matchup for that week and scoring manually the rest of the playoffs. I debated about pushing the playoffs off a week, but then you run the risk of Wk 17 and having teams sit players to rest. So in a nutshell the matchups will be recalculated after the season based on my playoff seeding rules. I'd prefer not to screw an owner over because of bad luck.
It all can be done retroactively, losing 1/16 of the league vs 1 player suspension is quite different.Applying scores retroactively may impact the outcome of the game, thus impacting the outcome of the league winner. Not sure how this is any different than injuries or other last minute issues like a suspension. Do we retroactively apply points and postpone playoffs for players on a suspension that we find out about the day of?The game will be played sometime. Just add in the scores retroactively, its not like you play fantasy defense against your opponent.Isn't that what fantasy football is about? I mean, we can't control injuries etc ... so how is this any different? I think an alternate player works just fine and I own Bradshaw in 2 out of 3 playoffs that I'm in.This is huge as some of the owners have rode the NYG to the playoffs and to give them zeros is crazy. I am actually debating about a few items:
[*]Get an alternate player list ONLY if the NFL cancels the game... Can't see it happening, but if they do you are covered.
[*]If the NYG/MIN game is played at all during week 14, the players count as normal
[*]If the game is postponed to a future week, I am debating about either pushing that FF matchup for that week and scoring manually the rest of the playoffs. I debated about pushing the playoffs off a week, but then you run the risk of Wk 17 and having teams sit players to rest. So in a nutshell the matchups will be recalculated after the season based on my playoff seeding rules. I'd prefer not to screw an owner over because of bad luck.
A suspension or injury means that player doesn't play that game. This isn't the players not playing. They ARE playing the game just not in the right week (assuming they don't play this week). Their yards and tds will count in the NFL and they should count for fantasy. The ONLY way you shouldn't add the points retroactively if is the game isn't played at all. Those players are playing the game so any team who has those players should get points for it whether the game actually happens week 14, 15, 16, or 17. If they play the game, the points count. In the leagues I run that is what will happen even if I have to manually score the rest of the games myself.Applying scores retroactively may impact the outcome of the game, thus impacting the outcome of the league winner. Not sure how this is any different than injuries or other last minute issues like a suspension. Do we retroactively apply points and postpone playoffs for players on a suspension that we find out about the day of?The game will be played sometime. Just add in the scores retroactively, its not like you play fantasy defense against your opponent.Isn't that what fantasy football is about? I mean, we can't control injuries etc ... so how is this any different? I think an alternate player works just fine and I own Bradshaw in 2 out of 3 playoffs that I'm in.This is huge as some of the owners have rode the NYG to the playoffs and to give them zeros is crazy. I am actually debating about a few items:
[*]Get an alternate player list ONLY if the NFL cancels the game... Can't see it happening, but if they do you are covered.
[*]If the NYG/MIN game is played at all during week 14, the players count as normal
[*]If the game is postponed to a future week, I am debating about either pushing that FF matchup for that week and scoring manually the rest of the playoffs. I debated about pushing the playoffs off a week, but then you run the risk of Wk 17 and having teams sit players to rest. So in a nutshell the matchups will be recalculated after the season based on my playoff seeding rules. I'd prefer not to screw an owner over because of bad luck.
Good luck applying this retroactively. A mess in the making IMO. 1/16 of the league is an incorrect estimate. How many Giant / Viking players are impacted? Harvin is out (I think), Steve Smith/Hakeem Nicks are iffy so the impacted players are AP, Rice, Bradshaw and Jacobs and maybe aDST or a desperation start at QB. Far cry from 1/16. Giving an option of an alternate is much better than no option at all.It all can be done retroactively, losing 1/16 of the league vs 1 player suspension is quite different.Applying scores retroactively may impact the outcome of the game, thus impacting the outcome of the league winner. Not sure how this is any different than injuries or other last minute issues like a suspension. Do we retroactively apply points and postpone playoffs for players on a suspension that we find out about the day of?The game will be played sometime. Just add in the scores retroactively, its not like you play fantasy defense against your opponent.Isn't that what fantasy football is about? I mean, we can't control injuries etc ... so how is this any different? I think an alternate player works just fine and I own Bradshaw in 2 out of 3 playoffs that I'm in.This is huge as some of the owners have rode the NYG to the playoffs and to give them zeros is crazy. I am actually debating about a few items:
[*]Get an alternate player list ONLY if the NFL cancels the game... Can't see it happening, but if they do you are covered.
[*]If the NYG/MIN game is played at all during week 14, the players count as normal
[*]If the game is postponed to a future week, I am debating about either pushing that FF matchup for that week and scoring manually the rest of the playoffs. I debated about pushing the playoffs off a week, but then you run the risk of Wk 17 and having teams sit players to rest. So in a nutshell the matchups will be recalculated after the season based on my playoff seeding rules. I'd prefer not to screw an owner over because of bad luck.
The league winner will be determined week 16. I highly doubt that the NFL will move this game out of week 14 since the Giants are playoff eligible. If so, alternate players is a viable alternative. Good luck trying to figure this out retroactively.A suspension or injury means that player doesn't play that game. This isn't the players not playing. They ARE playing the game just not in the right week (assuming they don't play this week). Their yards and tds will count in the NFL and they should count for fantasy. The ONLY way you shouldn't add the points retroactively if is the game isn't played at all. Those players are playing the game so any team who has those players should get points for it whether the game actually happens week 14, 15, 16, or 17. If they play the game, the points count. In the leagues I run that is what will happen even if I have to manually score the rest of the games myself.Applying scores retroactively may impact the outcome of the game, thus impacting the outcome of the league winner. Not sure how this is any different than injuries or other last minute issues like a suspension. Do we retroactively apply points and postpone playoffs for players on a suspension that we find out about the day of?The game will be played sometime. Just add in the scores retroactively, its not like you play fantasy defense against your opponent.Isn't that what fantasy football is about? I mean, we can't control injuries etc ... so how is this any different? I think an alternate player works just fine and I own Bradshaw in 2 out of 3 playoffs that I'm in.This is huge as some of the owners have rode the NYG to the playoffs and to give them zeros is crazy. I am actually debating about a few items:
[*]Get an alternate player list ONLY if the NFL cancels the game... Can't see it happening, but if they do you are covered.
[*]If the NYG/MIN game is played at all during week 14, the players count as normal
[*]If the game is postponed to a future week, I am debating about either pushing that FF matchup for that week and scoring manually the rest of the playoffs. I debated about pushing the playoffs off a week, but then you run the risk of Wk 17 and having teams sit players to rest. So in a nutshell the matchups will be recalculated after the season based on my playoff seeding rules. I'd prefer not to screw an owner over because of bad luck.
Given that there are 3 owners impacted with one NY/Minny player, 1/16 does not impact my league.Actually 1/16 is conservative because of number of fantasy players involved. AP/Bradshaw/Manning/Nicks/Manning/SSmith/Jacobs/Rice/Shiancoe/Boss/Defs. It is not a mess to manually add up the scores, people used to do this from newspaper box scores.
Sure, I understand that. Given my situation though, I cannot do it this year. Baby is due week 17 (1/1/11) and I will probably be preoccupied with other things than retroactively adding up scores.Anyway, it's in Detroit now so no need to worry about this anymore.Actually 1/16 is conservative because of number of fantasy players involved. AP/Bradshaw/Manning/Nicks/Manning/SSmith/Jacobs/Rice/Shiancoe/Boss/Defs. It is not a mess to manually add up the scores, people used to do this from newspaper box scores.
Well, I have a couple positions at stake in this in a playoff game so I'm not speaking from self interest when I day the following:There is an implied consent when you join a FF league to abide by whatever scoring system/format/process the FF host uses. So if Yahoo had a way to apply scores from a Wednesday game to week 14, that would be OK. If Yahoo didn't, then those players take 0's. It's an unfortunate outcome for people like me, but creating an ad hoc means to determine money winners seems soooooooo much worse than just relying on everyone's implicit agreement to your league's default scoringWell there IS a difference for sure because the stakes are higher but I also cant think of a situation where league rules change because it is a playoff game? I just looked at the playoffs (nfl playoffs) and they start the week following week 17 so unless they decide to play 2 games in one week or completely rearange the playoff schedule I have to think the game will be played this week. Hopefully. Whata nightmare decision for us commishs.Big difference between swapping byes and losing a starter for the playoffsSomebody help me with my memory here. Didnt we have a game a few years back either cancelled or moved back?.... Bye weeks changed around to accomodate the game at a later date? I'm thinking it was from the flood in Louisiana messing with a game date. If so precedent has been set in this type of situation. I think to be consistant I, as the commish, will have to rule the same way. Hopefully the game doesnt get moved from this week (not sure how this one could be really). I like the contingency plan idea except for the fact that IBELEIVE I ruled in the last situation that when the game got postponed people were sol. Please spmebody tell me I didnt dream the game that was postponed?
I think the concern was that what if it was played sometime after the start of Week 15. I think it shows you're being a responsible commish if you had a backup plan. If this wasn't the start of the playoffs it probably wouldn't be such an urgent matter.You guys are ridiculous talking about cancelling the game....It's ain't happening.