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Has Joe Haden become a shutdown corner? (1 Viewer)
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Yes, Haden is awesome.
So I just glanced at the box scores for his 4 games (missed last week due to injury and had a week 5 bye).
Wk 1 A.J. Green 1 for 41 td
Wk 2 R. Wayne 4 for 66
Wk 3 B. Marshall 4 for 43
Wk 4 N. Washington 2 for 62
Haden has 8 passes defended in 4 games. Looks like the opposing team is definitely throwing away from him. Can anyone shed some light on his injury and status for this week? Any news on the severity of his knee sprain?
Wk 1 A.J. Green 1 for 41 td
Wk 2 R. Wayne 4 for 66
Wk 3 B. Marshall 4 for 43
Wk 4 N. Washington 2 for 62
Haden has 8 passes defended in 4 games. Looks like the opposing team is definitely throwing away from him. Can anyone shed some light on his injury and status for this week? Any news on the severity of his knee sprain?
ClevelandRocks
Footballguy
I dont think he wil play role with Rice. But yes he has joined the socond tier of shutdown DBs and on the verge to having his own Island.
Sweet Love
IBL Representative
According to rotoworld, he practiced today, but no confirmation as to whether he will play on Sunday.
Browns CB Joe Haden (knee) returned to practice on Friday.
It's Haden's first practice since he suffered what is believed to be a sprained MCL on October 2. Coach Pat Shurmur expressed confidence that Haden will be available for Sunday's game against the Seahawks, but it will probably be a game-time decision. The teams will face off in a 1ET game in Cleveland.
Source: Tom Withers on Twitter Oct 21 - 1:32 PM
Browns CB Joe Haden (knee) returned to practice on Friday.
It's Haden's first practice since he suffered what is believed to be a sprained MCL on October 2. Coach Pat Shurmur expressed confidence that Haden will be available for Sunday's game against the Seahawks, but it will probably be a game-time decision. The teams will face off in a 1ET game in Cleveland.
Source: Tom Withers on Twitter Oct 21 - 1:32 PM
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Local radio said he practiced in the morning but not the afternoon.
The AJ Green catch listed in the stats above came on a play where the Browns stayed in their defensive huddle too long and Green was completely uncovered at the snap.
The AJ Green catch listed in the stats above came on a play where the Browns stayed in their defensive huddle too long and Green was completely uncovered at the snap.
MAC_32
Footballguy
...and Washington's big catch was a pick play/blown coverage on Sheldon Brown. In fact he didn't score because Haden sprinted from the other side of the field and wrapped him up at the 5. Pretty sure that was the play he hurt his knee too. Pretty sure at least 2 of Marshall's catches were vs. Brown too.Haden might be the best corner in the game this time next year.
LarryAllen'sJockstrap
Footballguy
Who are the top-5 corners in the NFL now; opinions (directed at anyone).RevisAsomough (how's he doing this year?)Woodson (still playing at a high level?)Samuel (see Asomough...)Bailey (see Woodson...)TalibHadenCromartiesChris HoustonJabari Greer has 23 tackles and leads the league in PDs this year...
Raidersfan18
Footballguy
Ugh. Was hoping he'd be out this week.
MAC_32
Footballguy
RevisAsomughaWoodsonBaileyHaden - I think he's better than Woodson and Bailey, but he needs to continue to prove it to earn itSamuel creates turnovers, but he is a liability vs. the run and gives up too many plays trying to create them to be considered at the top. The rest are a big notch down from the above 5.Few other names to throw into the hat - Jonathan Joseph, Brandon Flowers, and Peanut Tillman. I like Tennessee's too, but none stand out...maybe McCourty eventually. Peterson's going to be great eventually too.
Without being biased, which is tough.. Corey Webster definitely deserves an honorable mention for at least this season. The guy has already held Fitzgerald, Rice and Johnson to 16 catches for 132 yards this season. That's 5 catches a game with roughly 40 yards. I'm not saying he's in Revis' or Nmandi's league, but he is playing lights out this season.
Edit to add: No, I don't think Haden is a shutdown corner. I'm one of the very few that believe that "shutdown corner" is being thrown around waaaayy to much. We have 2 shutdown corner's in the NFL right now and their names are Darrelle Revis and Nmandi Asoughma. I'm giving Nmandi some slack because of the horrible defensive calls and a new system in Philly, but he's on the fence of getting exposed.
Edit to add: No, I don't think Haden is a shutdown corner. I'm one of the very few that believe that "shutdown corner" is being thrown around waaaayy to much. We have 2 shutdown corner's in the NFL right now and their names are Darrelle Revis and Nmandi Asoughma. I'm giving Nmandi some slack because of the horrible defensive calls and a new system in Philly, but he's on the fence of getting exposed.
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massraider
Footballguy
Ike Taylor from Pitt is really, really good. I'd take him over either of the Cromarties.To the original poster, I would say Haden is really good, but unless I hear my WR is going to be locked up by Haden (or Revis, or whoever) I am not really going to think about benching them. We just don't know what the defense's plans are for attacking the offense, and same for the offense. I think if I am debating between two players, the overall strength if the pass D plays a big part in my decision, but not an individual player. If you want to make this kind of move based on the opposing CB, you need to know if that is what Cleveland does. Do they put Haden on the other team's top WR, and have him cover him man-to-man the whole game? Heck, does anyone do that?
This week, if we are talking about Sidney Rice, I think Charlie Whitehurst has a better chance of shutting down Rice than Haden. I'm a Rice owner, and am more concerned about the QB than the other team's defensive backfield.
