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Has the luck factor turned you off to FF (1 Viewer)

Fantasy football is part lucky part skill. You make calculated decisions based off your rankings, gut feelings and your league rules. Is there a luck element of course there is I actually like that otherwise this would be a simulation and what fun would that be.

 
self, why are you putting so much time and effort into this hobby but your hard work does not pay off at the end. And others who do not put a third of the time, effort into FF and really do not follow the NFL as you do but they are being rewarded because of the LUCK factor.
Frame of reference.Self = skillOthers = luckSame thing goes through their minds when referencing you. To them, you were the lucky one and they are skillful.
where have I said anything about skill vs luck :thumbup: . Read between the lines, this was a vent thread. :doh: :scared: :doh:
Well, I could have said:"Perhaps they don't put as much time and effort into it as you do because they are good at it. It may not be luck, just natural talent." Maybe I'd be right, maybe not. I don't know. But I do prefer the self/skill vs others/luck analogy better.
 
I think luck plays a huge role in redraft leagues, and that is why I stay away from them.

Dynasty is the way to go. Sure luck is still involved, but not nearly to the extent of a redraft. Sure someone might luck out on a Dominick Davis, Marques Colston, or Anquan Boldin, in the late rounds of the rookie draft, but it usually equals out.

I think the key is not paying the big money to the Super Bowl winner. The true gauge of a fantasy team is how they perform in overall, and this is where the big money should go.

 
I always understood the luck factor, but seemed to end up on the hard side of fortune. One year, missed the playoffs with the leagues highest points scored (the entire league), for example.

This year, I was 5-8 with granted some hard luck, but that might get me close to .500. My team was definately less than stellar.

Even so, because my league has stupid rules that I have #####ed about for years (for this very reason), my sad sack 5-8 team made the playoffs.

Three in a row, in less than dominating fashion, and luck has me 2 grand richer.

I guess in the end, you get some bad luck, you get some good luck. And as they say, #### happens. This year, thankfully, I was that ####, happening to the guys who actually had good teams.

:excited:

 
As much as many folks think it is weak, I have become much more attracted to leagues where you don't submit lineups. I agree that luck plays a significant role in the outcome of a game. However, eliminating lineups (and just taking the highest scorers at each spot) minimizes the luck factor and rewards owners for assembling the most talent possible. Yes, luck still plays a relatively large part, and you more often get burnt by some fringe player having a career game. But I also find that when looking at year end results, the best teams almost always end up at the top of the pile while the worst teams remain at the bottom.
I also am going in this direction. It also eliminates the time spent on the dreaded "game time decision" players, the "Q" players, etc. I'll use this time to more closely scour the WW, look closer at trade options etc. For those who want to get away from the time spent on "who do I start" type leagues, and use that time for the other team management options, it is a good format.
 
"Skill gets you in a position where luck in the postseason can win you a championship."
A good summary of my feelings also. All you can realistically do is put your team in a position to have a chance to win, and hope luck is on your side. As others have stated in this thread, luck is involved in the real NFL, and in almost every factor in your real life. While not always necessarily fair, its reality.
 
I've never understood this "embrace the luck" attitude that some folks have. We all know that you'll never be able to eliminate luck in fantasy football, but why not try to mitigate it?

If you know it will play a role anyway, better to let it play a smaller role. As long as the game remains fun, do whatever you can to remove unnecessary luck from the game. Instead of just h2h, use a power rankings or doubleheader, or maybe have everyone play everyone each week. Luck will still factor in, but owners won't be completely at the mercy of the schedule.

Fantasy football is not the NFL, and never will be remotely similar to the NFL. In fact, all the little things we do to play dress up GM actually makes the game worse imo. At some point the game is out of your hands-- none of us take the field on Sunday. But to whatever degree we control the fortunes of our pretend teams, why not try and corral luck as much as possible?

 
I've never understood this "embrace the luck" attitude that some folks have. We all know that you'll never be able to eliminate luck in fantasy football, but why not try to mitigate it?If you know it will play a role anyway, better to let it play a smaller role. As long as the game remains fun, do whatever you can to remove unnecessary luck from the game. Instead of just h2h, use a power rankings or doubleheader, or maybe have everyone play everyone each week. Luck will still factor in, but owners won't be completely at the mercy of the schedule.Fantasy football is not the NFL, and never will be remotely similar to the NFL. In fact, all the little things we do to play dress up GM actually makes the game worse imo. At some point the game is out of your hands-- none of us take the field on Sunday. But to whatever degree we control the fortunes of our pretend teams, why not try and corral luck as much as possible?
I don't think anyone's saying "just accept that luck's gonna bite you, don't even try". But to complain, as many do, like it's unfair that luck reared it's ugly head in FF is like saying it's not fair for it to get colder in Winter. Do what you can to stay warm, but accept the fact that sometimes, no matter how many clothes you wear, Arctic winds are gonna have you shivering.
 
I've never understood this "embrace the luck" attitude that some folks have. We all know that you'll never be able to eliminate luck in fantasy football, but why not try to mitigate it?If you know it will play a role anyway, better to let it play a smaller role. As long as the game remains fun, do whatever you can to remove unnecessary luck from the game. Instead of just h2h, use a power rankings or doubleheader, or maybe have everyone play everyone each week. Luck will still factor in, but owners won't be completely at the mercy of the schedule.Fantasy football is not the NFL, and never will be remotely similar to the NFL. In fact, all the little things we do to play dress up GM actually makes the game worse imo. At some point the game is out of your hands-- none of us take the field on Sunday. But to whatever degree we control the fortunes of our pretend teams, why not try and corral luck as much as possible?
MT expressed this earlier, but you may have missed it (go back and look for his version).Basically without the luck factor, fewer guppies would play and every league would be shark-infested, thereby reducing the skilled players' advantages. Take the World Series of Poker - why do you think thousands of people enter, despite the presence of 500+ professional poker players? Do you really think that, over time, you would beat the pros on a consistent basis? Probably not, but in a short timeframe of a tournament, you have a shot given the "luck of the draw". That's the attraction, your skill plus some luck equals a decent chance. Sure the pro still has an advantage, just like an FBG shark in most leagues and contests. Without the "amateur" / guppy involvement, the "dead money" wouldn't seed the pots and give sharks more ways to win.I've finished in the Top 3 spots of a national contest for two years running (168 players last year, 228 this year) - but I guarantee there will still be 250+ players in that contest next year.
 
As much as many folks think it is weak, I have become much more attracted to leagues where you don't submit lineups. I agree that luck plays a significant role in the outcome of a game. However, eliminating lineups (and just taking the highest scorers at each spot) minimizes the luck factor and rewards owners for assembling the most talent possible. Yes, luck still plays a relatively large part, and you more often get burnt by some fringe player having a career game. But I also find that when looking at year end results, the best teams almost always end up at the top of the pile while the worst teams remain at the bottom.
I also am going in this direction. It also eliminates the time spent on the dreaded "game time decision" players, the "Q" players, etc. I'll use this time to more closely scour the WW, look closer at trade options etc. For those who want to get away from the time spent on "who do I start" type leagues, and use that time for the other team management options, it is a good format.
The FBG contest this year was my first time playing FF using this format, and I really liked it, especially since it cut down on the amount of time I had to spend each week deliberating with myself. Where are other leagues like this?
 

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