HBO - Song of Ice&Fire Series -Varsity Thread - no TV only whiners (2 Viewers)

[Sabertooth]

Im not looking for a specific answer, just a yes or no. Do we find out eventually what actually happened to Ben Stark?

Spoiler

The series isn't over yet. Still no signs but he hasn't been forgotten either. Mention of him continues.

 

[Sabertooth]

Great episode, loved to hear "the National" play Rains of Castamere as the credits rolled.

Definitely very cool. Here is the wiki backstory on the song. No spoilers.My link

 

[Bigboy10182000]

meh

All of the accounts re: "Renly's ghost" leading the assault were second hand. None of the main characters actually saw it.

While it wasn't telegraphed to the viewer during the actual battle scene, the net result is the same. You learn what happened after the fact in both cases.

(if you were really really going nuts on details, you'd notice it wasn't a Lannister (no Crimson Red). That alone would be enough intrigue to satisfy until they fully revealed who it was).



I have a bigger problem with The Hound offering to free Sansa and her turning it down. Bigger implications imo.

Sansa's the biggest idiot in the history of literature, and now, television.

I've read something like this mentioned a few times and just wanted to toss in my opinion. I don't have any issues with her turning the Hound down, I think she just isnt sure who to trust, in any case, so she just plays it the same way with everyone, Tyrion, Cersi, Hound etc.

 

[Sabertooth]

meh

All of the accounts re: "Renly's ghost" leading the assault were second hand. None of the main characters actually saw it.

While it wasn't telegraphed to the viewer during the actual battle scene, the net result is the same. You learn what happened after the fact in both cases.

(if you were really really going nuts on details, you'd notice it wasn't a Lannister (no Crimson Red). That alone would be enough intrigue to satisfy until they fully revealed who it was).



I have a bigger problem with The Hound offering to free Sansa and her turning it down. Bigger implications imo.

Sansa's the biggest idiot in the history of literature, and now, television.

I've read something like this mentioned a few times and just wanted to toss in my opinion. I don't have any issues with her turning the Hound down, I think she just isnt sure who to trust, in any case, so she just plays it the same way with everyone, Tyrion, Cersi, Hound etc.

I agree. I think she is playing the game quietly. But she is definitely over her "prince Charming" bs. She now just waits for her turn to make a move. Given another shot now to push Joffrey off the ramparts, I think she takes it.

 

[Bronx Bomber]

Im not looking for a specific answer, just a yes or no. Do we find out eventually what actually happened to Ben Stark?

Spoiler

The series isn't over yet. Still no signs but he hasn't been forgotten either. Mention of him continues.

Interesting, thanks.

 

[Foosball God]

mehAll of the accounts re: "Renly's ghost" leading the assault were second hand. None of the main characters actually saw it. While it wasn't telegraphed to the viewer during the actual battle scene, the net result is the same. You learn what happened after the fact in both cases. (if you were really really going nuts on details, you'd notice it wasn't a Lannister (no Crimson Red). That alone would be enough intrigue to satisfy until they fully revealed who it was).I have a bigger problem with The Hound offering to free Sansa and her turning it down. Bigger implications imo.

Sansa's the biggest idiot in the history of literature, and now, television.

Maybe, but here is a guy famous for being a psychopath asking her to come with him alone one a couple hundred mile journey. What could possibly go wrong, right?

And at this point it's not like she should be trusting anyone. For all she knows it was a set up by Joffrey.

 

[Chaka]

mehAll of the accounts re: "Renly's ghost" leading the assault were second hand. None of the main characters actually saw it. While it wasn't telegraphed to the viewer during the actual battle scene, the net result is the same. You learn what happened after the fact in both cases. (if you were really really going nuts on details, you'd notice it wasn't a Lannister (no Crimson Red). That alone would be enough intrigue to satisfy until they fully revealed who it was).I have a bigger problem with The Hound offering to free Sansa and her turning it down. Bigger implications imo.

Sansa's the biggest idiot in the history of literature, and now, television.

Maybe, but here is a guy famous for being a psychopath asking her to come with him alone one a couple hundred mile journey. What could possibly go wrong, right?

And at this point it's not like she should be trusting anyone. For all she knows it was a set up by Joffrey.

I think she made a reasonable decision. All indications were that Stannis was going to take King's Landing and start burning Lannisters. Stannis fought alongside Ned Stark during the last wars and, IIRC, was not happy that they beheaded Ned. It was reasonable to assume that she stood a better chance of surviving by surrendering herself to Stannis than being caught fleeing with Hound.

 

[thecatch]

mehAll of the accounts re: "Renly's ghost" leading the assault were second hand. None of the main characters actually saw it. While it wasn't telegraphed to the viewer during the actual battle scene, the net result is the same. You learn what happened after the fact in both cases. (if you were really really going nuts on details, you'd notice it wasn't a Lannister (no Crimson Red). That alone would be enough intrigue to satisfy until they fully revealed who it was).I have a bigger problem with The Hound offering to free Sansa and her turning it down. Bigger implications imo.

Sansa's the biggest idiot in the history of literature, and now, television.

Maybe, but here is a guy famous for being a psychopath asking her to come with him alone one a couple hundred mile journey. What could possibly go wrong, right?

And at this point it's not like she should be trusting anyone. For all she knows it was a set up by Joffrey.

Maybe, but the Hound has also been protecting her and saved her from the mobs when Joffrey could not have cared less what happened to her. Seems to be a safer bet than sitting around (even with a stannis victory who knows what will happen with pillaging troops). plus, unlikely that Joffrey would have set that particular petty plot in motion while he was in danger of being dethroned and killed.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

I can get the first 4 iBooks to read on my iPad for $29.99. is this a good deal? am I better off just buying the paperbacks?

 

[Gr00vus]

I can get the first 4 iBooks to read on my iPad for $29.99. is this a good deal? am I better off just buying the paperbacks?

I think you can get the physical books cheaper and it's easier to leaf around to the appendices and previous pages for reference with the physical books.

 

[jamny]

-On the other hand...I hope they don't bring in Natalie Dormer into this series any more than is absolutely necessary. She damn near ruined The Tudors by herself.

Gigantic

Best part of that show. All downhill after she was gone.

 

[gump]

mehAll of the accounts re: "Renly's ghost" leading the assault were second hand. None of the main characters actually saw it. While it wasn't telegraphed to the viewer during the actual battle scene, the net result is the same. You learn what happened after the fact in both cases. (if you were really really going nuts on details, you'd notice it wasn't a Lannister (no Crimson Red). That alone would be enough intrigue to satisfy until they fully revealed who it was).I have a bigger problem with The Hound offering to free Sansa and her turning it down. Bigger implications imo.

Sansa's the biggest idiot in the history of literature, and now, television.

Maybe, but here is a guy famous for being a psychopath asking her to come with him alone one a couple hundred mile journey. What could possibly go wrong, right?

And at this point it's not like she should be trusting anyone. For all she knows it was a set up by Joffrey.

I think she made a reasonable decision. All indications were that Stannis was going to take King's Landing and start burning Lannisters. Stannis fought alongside Ned Stark during the last wars and, IIRC, was not happy that they beheaded Ned. It was reasonable to assume that she stood a better chance of surviving by surrendering herself to Stannis than being caught fleeing with Hound.

That's a good point. It was Ned after all who ultimately saved Stannis at Storms End, right?

 

[jamny]

Great episode, loved to hear "the National" play Rains of Castamere as the credits rolled.

Definitely very cool. Here is the wiki backstory on the song. No spoilers.My link

I didn't know what that was. I started to fast-forward through the credits and caught a second of it. Thought it was odd but didn't really listen to it.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

meh

All of the accounts re: "Renly's ghost" leading the assault were second hand. None of the main characters actually saw it.

While it wasn't telegraphed to the viewer during the actual battle scene, the net result is the same. You learn what happened after the fact in both cases.

(if you were really really going nuts on details, you'd notice it wasn't a Lannister (no Crimson Red). That alone would be enough intrigue to satisfy until they fully revealed who it was).



I have a bigger problem with The Hound offering to free Sansa and her turning it down. Bigger implications imo.

Sansa's the biggest idiot in the history of literature, and now, television.

She's already proven herself smarter than both her parents, and may end up being the smartest Stark of all of them.

I think Arya's already taken that crown, followed by perhaps Robb. I thought Sansa bloomed a bit in this past episode, but not getting the heck out of dodge with one of Westros' most dominant (and intimidating) warriors was epic dumb.

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I haven't read the book, but I did look ahead to see if Tyrion was a goner and I saw the part about his wedding with Sansa. Another reasons she should have bailed.

Im not sure she felt as if she could trust him and that it wasn't a test of her loyalty. She didn't see the Hounds metamorphosis at the gate.

 

[Brady Marino]

meh

All of the accounts re: "Renly's ghost" leading the assault were second hand. None of the main characters actually saw it.

While it wasn't telegraphed to the viewer during the actual battle scene, the net result is the same. You learn what happened after the fact in both cases.

(if you were really really going nuts on details, you'd notice it wasn't a Lannister (no Crimson Red). That alone would be enough intrigue to satisfy until they fully revealed who it was).



I have a bigger problem with The Hound offering to free Sansa and her turning it down. Bigger implications imo.

Sansa's the biggest idiot in the history of literature, and now, television.

She's already proven herself smarter than both her parents, and may end up being the smartest Stark of all of them.

I think Arya's already taken that crown, followed by perhaps Robb. I thought Sansa bloomed a bit in this past episode, but not getting the heck out of dodge with one of Westros' most dominant (and intimidating) warriors was epic dumb.

Spoiler

I haven't read the book, but I did look ahead to see if Tyrion was a goner and I saw the part about his wedding with Sansa. Another reasons she should have bailed.

Im not sure she felt as if she could trust him and that it wasn't a test of her loyalty. She didn't see the Hounds metamorphosis at the gate.True, but I'd find a guy that rescued you from a rape (and god knows how many STDs) more trustworthy than the jackhole kid that ordered your father's head on a stick. Just saying.

 

[=Smackdown=]

Really curious how they will end Season 2 before the credits roll . . . .

Spoiler

I can see them closing out Season 2 at the Fist. Two blasts, preparation, then a delayed third blast, the men of the Nights Watch share dreadful looks. The landscape around them lighting up with pale blue eyes in the dark, then fade to black would be cool.

They ended Season 1 with Fire - Season 2 could be Ice

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

meh

All of the accounts re: "Renly's ghost" leading the assault were second hand. None of the main characters actually saw it.

While it wasn't telegraphed to the viewer during the actual battle scene, the net result is the same. You learn what happened after the fact in both cases.

(if you were really really going nuts on details, you'd notice it wasn't a Lannister (no Crimson Red). That alone would be enough intrigue to satisfy until they fully revealed who it was).



I have a bigger problem with The Hound offering to free Sansa and her turning it down. Bigger implications imo.

Sansa's the biggest idiot in the history of literature, and now, television.

She's already proven herself smarter than both her parents, and may end up being the smartest Stark of all of them.

I think Arya's already taken that crown, followed by perhaps Robb. I thought Sansa bloomed a bit in this past episode, but not getting the heck out of dodge with one of Westros' most dominant (and intimidating) warriors was epic dumb.

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I haven't read the book, but I did look ahead to see if Tyrion was a goner and I saw the part about his wedding with Sansa. Another reasons she should have bailed.

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Im not sure she felt as if she could trust him and that it wasn't a test of her loyalty. She didn't see the Hounds metamorphosis at the gate.

True, but I'd find a guy that rescued you from a rape (and god knows how many STDs) more trustworthy than the jackhole kid that ordered your father's head on a stick. Just saying.The Celgane clan are known rapists and murders though. I dont think she would trust them even thoguh the hound helped her. Although the tension between Sansa and the hound has been building for quiet awhile.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

True, but I'd find a guy that rescued you from a rape (and god knows how many STDs) more trustworthy than the jackhole kid that ordered your father's head on a stick. Just saying.

The guy that rescued her from the rape works for the guy who ordered her father's head on a stick.

 

[Brady Marino]

True, but I'd find a guy that rescued you from a rape (and god knows how many STDs) more trustworthy than the jackhole kid that ordered your father's head on a stick. Just saying.

The guy that rescued her from the rape works for the guy who ordered her father's head on a stick.

True, and the whole thing about Sansa not catching on about the Hound's insubordination I think makes sense. I'll have to go back and watch that scene.

 

[thecatch]

True, but I'd find a guy that rescued you from a rape (and god knows how many STDs) more trustworthy than the jackhole kid that ordered your father's head on a stick. Just saying.

The guy that rescued her from the rape works for the guy who ordered her father's head on a stick.

Even if it was a set up, which is highly unlikely given the context, how woul she have been worse off if she went for it? It's not like standing pat was a fantastic alternative.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

True, but I'd find a guy that rescued you from a rape (and god knows how many STDs) more trustworthy than the jackhole kid that ordered your father's head on a stick. Just saying.

The guy that rescued her from the rape works for the guy who ordered her father's head on a stick.

True, and the whole thing about Sansa not catching on about the Hound's insubordination I think makes sense. I'll have to go back and watch that scene.

I do believe she wanted to believe him, but simply must always be on full alert and survival mode. Well that and that every son-of-a-##### associated with House Lannister is not to be trusted.

 

[jamny]

Loved the full puke barrel in the beginning. :X

I thought Stannis was captured, not pulled away by his own men.

Didn't realize it was one of Joffrey's men that took down Tyrion.

Didn't realize it was Loras (?) or that he was wearing Renly's armor. Thought it was that other Lannister.

And I was definitely confused as to whose army came riding to the rescue since I thought Tywin was heading towards Robb Stark.

And I agree that after the explosion, the battle scene was a little cheesy only because of the small scale of it, not thousands of men. And when Tyrion was giving his speech, I was wondering why no one seemed to be worrying about people scaling the walls. I did love the look on his face as he walked away after the speech though. Kinda like "what the hell did I just say"

Joffrey was great, especially trying to be tough during the "kiss the sword" part. I actually thought it was him on Cersie's lap on the throne at the end.

The explosion was awesome though. I was actually asking my wife what happened to all the explosive liquid they were making.

"That would make me the quarter-man. Just doesn't have the same ring to it"

Loved the scenes between Sansa and Cersie.

 

[jamny]

So who was the guy that first came through the throne room and took his helmet off at the end?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

So who was the guy that first came through the throne room and took his helmet off at the end?

that was Loras,

 

[Chaka]

True, but I'd find a guy that rescued you from a rape (and god knows how many STDs) more trustworthy than the jackhole kid that ordered your father's head on a stick. Just saying.

The guy that rescued her from the rape works for the guy who ordered her father's head on a stick.

Even if it was a set up, which is highly unlikely given the context, how woul she have been worse off if she went for it? It's not like standing pat was a fantastic alternative.

It wasn't a bad decision necessarily. She's a Stark in King's Landing against her own will. Her brother Robb is waging a war against the Lannisters. Stannis is a Baratheon who fought alongside their father against the Targaryen's. It was reasonable for her to consider Stannis an ally to her cause more than the Hound.

 

[jamny]

So who was the guy that first came through the throne room and took his helmet off at the end?

that was Loras,

Same guy that was fighting within the walls? He looked to be dressed differently.And what did Cersei do to him to knock him down in such pain. I thought she might have pushed in the arrow that he took but upon rewatch it didn't look like it was sticking out. I though he was hit more in the side but she pushed him in the chest.

 

[Chaka]

So who was the guy that first came through the throne room and took his helmet off at the end?

that was Loras,

Same guy that was fighting within the walls? He looked to be dressed differently.And what did Cersei do to him to knock him down in such pain. I thought she might have pushed in the arrow that he took but upon rewatch it didn't look like it was sticking out. I though he was hit more in the side but she pushed him in the chest.

Loras is Renyl's lover, not the Lannister cousin who was fighting within the walls (they kind of look alike, it's the hair). Renly is Stannis' gay brother who was killed by Stannis' smoke monster.Pretty sure Ceresi just hit the cousin in the spot where he was shot with the arrow. That would be extremely painful.

 

[jamny]

So who was the guy that first came through the throne room and took his helmet off at the end?

that was Loras,

Same guy that was fighting within the walls? He looked to be dressed differently.And what did Cersei do to him to knock him down in such pain. I thought she might have pushed in the arrow that he took but upon rewatch it didn't look like it was sticking out. I though he was hit more in the side but she pushed him in the chest.

Loras is Renyl's lover, not the Lannister cousin who was fighting within the walls (they kind of look alike, it's the hair). Renly is Stannis' gay brother who was killed by Stannis' smoke monster.

Ah, so I was right in thinking it was the Lannister cousin fighting. I thought people were saying it was Loras.

 

[belljr]

So who was the guy that first came through the throne room and took his helmet off at the end?

that was Loras,

Same guy that was fighting within the walls? He looked to be dressed differently.And what did Cersei do to him to knock him down in such pain. I thought she might have pushed in the arrow that he took but upon rewatch it didn't look like it was sticking out. I though he was hit more in the side but she pushed him in the chest.

Loras is Renyl's lover, not the Lannister cousin who was fighting within the walls (they kind of look alike, it's the hair). Renly is Stannis' gay brother who was killed by Stannis' smoke monster.

Ah, so I was right in thinking it was the Lannister cousin fighting. I thought people were saying it was Loras.

The Lannister cousin Lancel was fighting and took and arrow, and then went to the Queen.Loras (Renley's gay lover)was the guy who took his helmet off in the Throne Room when Tyron came in and announced the battle was won.

 

[jamny]

So who was the guy that first came through the throne room and took his helmet off at the end?

that was Loras,

Same guy that was fighting within the walls? He looked to be dressed differently.And what did Cersei do to him to knock him down in such pain. I thought she might have pushed in the arrow that he took but upon rewatch it didn't look like it was sticking out. I though he was hit more in the side but she pushed him in the chest.

Loras is Renyl's lover, not the Lannister cousin who was fighting within the walls (they kind of look alike, it's the hair). Renly is Stannis' gay brother who was killed by Stannis' smoke monster.

Ah, so I was right in thinking it was the Lannister cousin fighting. I thought people were saying it was Loras.

The Lannister cousin Lancel was fighting and took and arrow, and then went to the Queen.Loras 9Renley's gay lover)was the guy who took his helmet off in the Throne Room when Tyron came in and announced the battle was won.

Yeah, that's what I thought as I was watching it. I just misunderstood people after reading the thread who seem to be saying that it was Loras fighting the whole time. My mistake.

 

[belljr]

So who was the guy that first came through the throne room and took his helmet off at the end?

that was Loras,

Same guy that was fighting within the walls? He looked to be dressed differently.And what did Cersei do to him to knock him down in such pain. I thought she might have pushed in the arrow that he took but upon rewatch it didn't look like it was sticking out. I though he was hit more in the side but she pushed him in the chest.

Loras is Renyl's lover, not the Lannister cousin who was fighting within the walls (they kind of look alike, it's the hair). Renly is Stannis' gay brother who was killed by Stannis' smoke monster.

Ah, so I was right in thinking it was the Lannister cousin fighting. I thought people were saying it was Loras.

The Lannister cousin Lancel was fighting and took and arrow, and then went to the Queen.Loras 9Renley's gay lover)was the guy who took his helmet off in the Throne Room when Tyron came in and announced the battle was won.

Yeah, that's what I thought as I was watching it. I just misunderstood people after reading the thread who seem to be saying that it was Loras fighting the whole time. My mistake.

No worries, I get confused all the time and the 2 guys look similar, was just trying to help Loras did fight when they rode in on horseback

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Im not looking for a specific answer, just a yes or no. Do we find out eventually what actually happened to Ben Stark?

Spoiler

The series isn't over yet. Still no signs but he hasn't been forgotten either. Mention of him continues.

Don't read this if you don't want to know specifically -- this is for Sabertooth's post.

Spoiler

I forget now why I think this, but reading A Dance of Dragons I thought Ben Stark was Cold Hands?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

And didnt lancel take an arrow to the chest? and then retreat to talk to the queen? then he had no arrow?

 

[belljr]

And didnt lancel take an arrow to the chest? and then retreat to talk to the queen? then he had no arrow?

If I remember correctly it was more chest/shoulder area and he pulled it out. I think it hit between the chest plate and shoulder plate in the armor The Queen then punched him in the wound...

 

[CBusAlex]

Really curious how they will end Season 2 before the credits roll . . . .

Spoiler

I can see them closing out Season 2 at the Fist. Two blasts, preparation, then a delayed third blast, the men of the Nights Watch share dreadful looks. The landscape around them lighting up with pale blue eyes in the dark, then fade to black would be cool.They ended Season 1 with Fire - Season 2 could be Ice

Spoiler

I was thinking they would end it with Bran & Rickon emerging from the crypt to discover Winterfell burned to the ground, but I like your idea better.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Spoiler

Im hoping its with dany coming out of the house of undying instead of going into it

 

[EYLive]

Im not looking for a specific answer, just a yes or no. Do we find out eventually what actually happened to Ben Stark?

Spoiler

The series isn't over yet. Still no signs but he hasn't been forgotten either. Mention of him continues.

Don't read this if you don't want to know specifically -- this is for Sabertooth's post.

Spoiler

I forget now why I think this, but reading A Dance of Dragons I thought Ben Stark was Cold Hands?

GRRM is being coy with the readers. All the evidence suggests you are correct.

 

[Sabertooth]

Im not looking for a specific answer, just a yes or no. Do we find out eventually what actually happened to Ben Stark?

Spoiler

The series isn't over yet. Still no signs but he hasn't been forgotten either. Mention of him continues.

Don't read this if you don't want to know specifically -- this is for Sabertooth's post.

Spoiler

I forget now why I think this, but reading A Dance of Dragons I thought Ben Stark was Cold Hands?

Spoiler

Perhaps he is. I originally assumed that as well. But I backed off that assumption for some reason.

 

[Stoneys]

Im not looking for a specific answer, just a yes or no. Do we find out eventually what actually happened to Ben Stark?

Spoiler

The series isn't over yet. Still no signs but he hasn't been forgotten either. Mention of him continues.

Spoiler

Don't read this if you don't want to know specifically -- this is for Sabertooth's post.I forget now why I think this, but reading A Dance of Dragons I thought Ben Stark was Cold Hands?

Spoiler

Perhaps he is. I originally assumed that as well. But I backed off that assumption for some reason.

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I don't think it's Benjen Stark, there was a line in aDwD after Bran meets Leaf. Leaf states that 'they killed him long ago' There are some theories on who he is (benjen is one of them)

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

True, but I'd find a guy that rescued you from a rape (and god knows how many STDs) more trustworthy than the jackhole kid that ordered your father's head on a stick. Just saying.

The guy that rescued her from the rape works for the guy who ordered her father's head on a stick.

Even if it was a set up, which is highly unlikely given the context, how woul she have been worse off if she went for it? It's not like standing pat was a fantastic alternative.

Standing pat seems okay to me. If King Stannis prevails, he should treat Sansa well. If King Joffrey prevails, which seems a lot less likely,

Spoiler

she's still got her plan with Ser Dontos.

 

[Drifter]

Sansa thought Stannis was about to take the castle and she would be saved that way. Making the decision to stay over going with an intimidating, self-admitted, killing machine shouldn't seem like such a strange decision.

 

[Gr00vus]

Spoiler

she's still got her plan with Ser Dontos.

Has that been mentioned yet in the show? I don't remember it if so.

 

[mad sweeney]

And didnt lancel take an arrow to the chest? and then retreat to talk to the queen? then he had no arrow?

If I remember correctly it was more chest/shoulder area and he pulled it out. I think it hit between the chest plate and shoulder plate in the armor The Queen then punched him in the wound...

I was a little confused by that as well, I saw it twice and the arrow hit him in the right side up near the collarbone, but the queen ##### pushed him in the left side, or so it appeared to me. Obviously it was meant to be the wound that she hit, but it didn't look right to me. And obviously he at one point broke off the arrow or puled it out, because that's what you do.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Spoiler

she's still got her plan with Ser Dontos.

Has that been mentioned yet in the show? I don't remember it if so. right I dont remember that either.

 

[mad sweeney]

Spoiler

she's still got her plan with Ser Dontos.

Spoiler

Has that been mentioned yet in the show? I don't remember it if so.

right I dont remember that either.I think they did show him at some point in the season though, right? And I'm not sure that plan is ever put in place until after Blackwater, but it's been awhile since I read the books and timelines blur. Answers can be in spoilers, but since I didn't give anything away I'm not using them here.

 

[Gr00vus]

Spoiler

she's still got her plan with Ser Dontos.

Spoiler

Has that been mentioned yet in the show? I don't remember it if so.

right I dont remember that either.MT you need to spoiler that thing up.

 

[Gr00vus]

Spoiler

she's still got her plan with Ser Dontos.

Spoiler

Has that been mentioned yet in the show? I don't remember it if so.

Spoiler

right I dont remember that either.

I think they did show him at some point in the season though, right?

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And I'm not sure that plan is ever put in place until after Blackwater, but it's been awhile since I read the books and timelines blur.

Answers can be in spoilers, but since I didn't give anything away I'm not using them here.

Dontos was in the opening scene of the season (the drunk knight at the tourney that Joffrey wine boarded). And you should probably put the rest of your comment in spoilers for those who haven't read that far.

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No plan has been mentioned at all in the show yet.

 

[parrot]

Spoiler

she's still got her plan with Ser Dontos.

Spoiler

Has that been mentioned yet in the show? I don't remember it if so.

Spoiler

right I dont remember that either.

I think they did show him at some point in the season though, right? And I'm not sure that plan is ever put in place until after Blackwater, but it's been awhile since I read the books and timelines blur. Answers can be in spoilers, but since I didn't give anything away I'm not using them here.

Spoiler

Dontos is supposedly working at getting her out well in advance of the Blackwater, but the actual date isn't chosen until afterward I believe.

 

[mad sweeney]

Spoiler

she's still got her plan with Ser Dontos.

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Has that been mentioned yet in the show? I don't remember it if so.

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right I dont remember that either.

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I think they did show him at some point in the season though, right? And I'm not sure that plan is ever put in place until after Blackwater, but it's been awhile since I read the books and timelines blur.

Answers can be in spoilers, but since I didn't give anything away I'm not using them here.

Dontos was in the opening scene of the season (the drunk knight at the tourney that Joffrey wine boarded). And you should probably put the rest of your comment in spoilers for those who haven't read that far.

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No plan has been mentioned at all in the show yet.

That's why I don't think there's a spoiler issue. Nobody knows who, what, where, when or why about it.

 

[jamny]

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she's still got her plan with Ser Dontos.

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Has that been mentioned yet in the show? I don't remember it if so.

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right I dont remember that either.

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I think they did show him at some point in the season though, right? And I'm not sure that plan is ever put in place until after Blackwater, but it's been awhile since I read the books and timelines blur.

Answers can be in spoilers, but since I didn't give anything away I'm not using them here.

Dontos was in the opening scene of the season (the drunk knight at the tourney that Joffrey wine boarded). And you should probably put the rest of your comment in spoilers for those who haven't read that far.

Spoiler

No plan has been mentioned at all in the show yet.

That's why I don't think there's a spoiler issue. Nobody knows who, what, where, when or why about it.Yeah, you guys do a great job keeping things under wraps for the most part. Occasionally things slip through but it's not the end of the world. Usually just minor things that those of us who haven't read the books don't really understand anyway. I appreciate still being able to read this thread without fear of too much info being revealed.