HBO - Song of Ice&Fire Series -Varsity Thread - no TV only whiners (2 Viewers)

[bonesman]

Game of Thrones actors just being themselves

Holy crap, Sansa is tall.

I don't ever use the adjective, but she is truly ravishing!

 

[Mister Martie]

lol@ Jon Snow wearing a shirt with Robb Stark on it.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

lol@ Jon Snow wearing a shirt with Robb Stark on it.

I didn't watch all the commentaries on the bluray, but the thing that stuck out the most to me was the camaraderie of the cast.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Here's a new more detailed video of the new characters. Some mild spoilers for some I would say.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Game of Thrones actors just being themselves

Holy crap, Sansa is tall.

I don't ever use the adjective, but she is truly ravishing!

LOL at the picture of the guy playing Sam with the "luckiest fat man in the world" look on his face. Well played, Mr. Tarley.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Here's a new more detailed video of the new characters. Some mild spoilers for some I would say.

Good stuff...excited for some more Tormund.

 

[dancer]

Roose Bolton is the father who is with Robb Stark.

Well, to be clear, there are two fathers with Robb Stark. The one complaining about his kid being killed is Karstark. Bolton is the other one.

 

[jamny]

Here's a new more detailed video of the new characters. Some mild spoilers for some I would say.

The actor who plays Orell the warg is Gareth from the UK version of The Office

 

[mad sweeney]

Here's a new more detailed video of the new characters. Some mild spoilers for some I would say.

Yes! More Missandei please.

 

[jamny]

Here's a new more detailed video of the new characters. Some mild spoilers for some I would say.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Here's a new more detailed video of the new characters. Some mild spoilers for some I would say.

Keep waiting for Stephen Merchant to show up as the Ogg Monster

 

[CBusAlex]

Here's a new more detailed video of the new characters. Some mild spoilers for some I would say.

Also the pirate with the wooden eye from Pirates of the Caribbean.

 

[Gr00vus]

Game of Thrones actors just being themselves

Holy crap, Sansa is tall.

I don't ever use the adjective, but she is truly ravishing!

I realize this is a HomerJ moment, but seeing these pics confirms my suspicion that she's in fact the hottest woman on the show.

 

[Gr00vus]

Here's a new more detailed video of the new characters. Some mild spoilers for some I would say.

Orell Invetigates!

 

[EYLive]

Game of Thrones actors just being themselves

Holy crap, Sansa is tall.

I don't ever use the adjective, but she is truly ravishing!

I realize this is a HomerJ moment, but seeing these pics confirms my suspicion that she's in fact the hottest woman on the show.

And her character is very submissive.

 

[Gr00vus]

Game of Thrones actors just being themselves

Holy crap, Sansa is tall.

I don't ever use the adjective, but she is truly ravishing!

I realize this is a HomerJ moment, but seeing these pics confirms my suspicion that she's in fact the hottest woman on the show.

And her character is very submissive.

That said, I think she might have a new challenger for best in show in Missandei. I was initially about how they cleaned out all Daenerys's handmaidens, but if that means Missandei gets a bigger role by absorbing all of theirs, it's a genius bit of production.

 

[EYLive]

Game of Thrones actors just being themselves

Holy crap, Sansa is tall.

I don't ever use the adjective, but she is truly ravishing!

I realize this is a HomerJ moment, but seeing these pics confirms my suspicion that she's in fact the hottest woman on the show.

And her character is very submissive.

That said, I think she might have a new challenger for best in show in Missandei. I was initially about how they cleaned out all Daenerys's handmaidens, but if that means Missandei gets a bigger role by absorbing all of theirs, it's a genius bit of production.

After a bit of research, I have decided that I like Nathalie Emmanuel with longer/straight hair. In some pics, she looks like Jessica Alba.

Does Dany have the girl-girl sechs with Missandei?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I mentioned this in the other thread, but there isn't much thinking or discussion of merit over there.

I really think the writers dropped the ball with Cat and her motivation for letting Jaime go. Why did they not let cat and Robb know of theon "killing" bran and rickon? That grief is what set cat off. She needed her daughters back with her and safe at any cost. The writers however made it explicit that she had no clue about them with theon killing all ravens leaving winterfell. What's the rationale? How will that matter for the story?

 

[mad sweeney]

Here's a new more detailed video of the new characters. Some mild spoilers for some I would say.

Until he spoke, I thought it was the urban-Caucasian detective from The Killing.

 

[prosopis]

I watch this show on DVD so I am just half way through season two.

The girl who is the mother of dragons- Is that the same actress as season 1? She seems a lot different then I remember, maybe heavier?

 

[Runningman]

I mentioned this in the other thread, but there isn't much thinking or discussion of merit over there.I really think the writers dropped the ball with Cat and her motivation for letting Jaime go. Why did they not let cat and Robb know of theon "killing" bran and rickon? That grief is what set cat off. She needed her daughters back with her and safe at any cost. The writers however made it explicit that she had no clue about them with theon killing all ravens leaving winterfell. What's the rationale? How will that matter for the story?

Ultimately I don't think it will matter for the story. The same as adding the Jon Snow had the Pox and I prayed he lived scene. Catelyn is not a very likable character in the book and is turning out even less so in the show. I think the writers for the show may just think this motivation for her actions is more believable than the books.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I mentioned this in the other thread, but there isn't much thinking or discussion of merit over there.I really think the writers dropped the ball with Cat and her motivation for letting Jaime go. Why did they not let cat and Robb know of theon "killing" bran and rickon? That grief is what set cat off. She needed her daughters back with her and safe at any cost. The writers however made it explicit that she had no clue about them with theon killing all ravens leaving winterfell. What's the rationale? How will that matter for the story?

Ultimately I don't think it will matter for the story. The same as adding the Jon Snow had the Pox and I prayed he lived scene. Catelyn is not a very likable character in the book and is turning out even less so in the show. I think the writers for the show may just think this motivation for her actions is more believable than the books.

The Snow/pox thing (and many other changes/tweaks) I am fine with. I think it ads a layer to Cat actually that GRRM didn't get that in to. My issue is I find it more plausible for Cat to free Jaime while grief stricken, rather than just worried. I'm not sure why they explicitly did not want Robb and Cat to know of what Theon "did". It makes me curious about whether such knowledge (or lack thereof) plays into Theon's storyline where he is now, or Cat's

Spoiler

motivation as Stoneheart (if we get her and to be honest I'd rather do without that plotline) in the future and her actions.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I mentioned this in the other thread, but there isn't much thinking or discussion of merit over there.I really think the writers dropped the ball with Cat and her motivation for letting Jaime go. Why did they not let cat and Robb know of theon "killing" bran and rickon? That grief is what set cat off. She needed her daughters back with her and safe at any cost. The writers however made it explicit that she had no clue about them with theon killing all ravens leaving winterfell. What's the rationale? How will that matter for the story?

Ultimately I don't think it will matter for the story. The same as adding the Jon Snow had the Pox and I prayed he lived scene. Catelyn is not a very likable character in the book and is turning out even less so in the show. I think the writers for the show may just think this motivation for her actions is more believable than the books.

The Snow/pox thing (and many other changes/tweaks) I am fine with. I think it ads a layer to Cat actually that GRRM didn't get that in to. My issue is I find it more plausible for Cat to free Jaime while grief stricken, rather than just worried. I'm not sure why they explicitly did not want Robb and Cat to know of what Theon "did". It makes me curious about whether such knowledge (or lack thereof) plays into Theon's storyline where he is now, or Cat's

Spoiler

motivation as Stoneheart (if we get her and to be honest I'd rather do without that plotline) in the future and her actions.

I agree with not understanding (at the moment) why they didnt give more time to Cat's motivation for freeing Jamie. It leaves kind of an empty feeling for me regarding that aspect of the show.

Spoiler

As far as Stonehart goes, I wouldnt mind them having her if it's done right. I guess we have to see how far they go with Dondarrion though

 

[jamny]

How did Jon get so quickly accepted by the wildings to the point that he's hanging with the leadership. It was a very quick transition from captured to respected.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

How did Jon get so quickly accepted by the wildings to the point that he's hanging with the leadership. It was a very quick transition from captured to respected.

By killing one of their main enemies. He's also like Manse in the sense that they were both a part of the Night's Watch

 

[Mister Martie]

I think the wildlings would deny it, but I suspect his Stark blood has something to do with his rapid acceptance. They may not be kneelers, but the wildlings seem to have a grudging respect for the Starks.

You have to also consider that his upbringing (education, weapons training, etc) would make him a pretty valuable asset compared to the rest of the wildlings.

 

[Gr00vus]

I think the wildlings would deny it, but I suspect his Stark blood has something to do with his rapid acceptance. They may not be kneelers, but the wildlings seem to have a grudging respect for the Starks.You have to also consider that his upbringing (education, weapons training, etc) would make him a pretty valuable asset compared to the rest of the wildlings.

To me it seems like throughout the story (whether we're talking show or book), there are these wise characters who can recognize exceptional individuals around them who are destined for greater things than even the wise characters themselves are capable of. The characters capable of recognizing this also seem to have no problem serving or sacrificing for these exceptional people (we just got yet another example of this this week with the arrival of Jojen and Mira). In Jon's case that doesn't seem to take long either. He's quickly promoted by Mormont, Quorin sacrifices his life for Jon's after knowing him for a couple of days, and I think Mance recognizes it too.

 

[jamny]

How did Jon get so quickly accepted by the wildings to the point that he's hanging with the leadership. It was a very quick transition from captured to respected.

By killing one of their main enemies. He's also like Manse in the sense that they were both a part of the Night's Watch

Yeah, I didn't catch that on the show but read it on the Entertainment Weekly recap

I think the wildlings would deny it, but I suspect his Stark blood has something to do with his rapid acceptance. They may not be kneelers, but the wildlings seem to have a grudging respect for the Starks.You have to also consider that his upbringing (education, weapons training, etc) would make him a pretty valuable asset compared to the rest of the wildlings.

To me it seems like throughout the story (whether we're talking show or book), there are these wise characters who can recognize exceptional individuals around them who are destined for greater things than even the wise characters themselves are capable of. The characters capable of recognizing this also seem to have no problem serving or sacrificing for these exceptional people (we just got yet another example of this this week with the arrival of Jojen and Mira). In Jon's case that doesn't seem to take long either. He's quickly promoted by Mormont, Quorin sacrifices his life for Jon's after knowing him for a couple of days, and I think Mance recognizes it too.

Interesting thoughts.

 

[Thunderlips]

I think the wildlings would deny it, but I suspect his Stark blood has something to do with his rapid acceptance. They may not be kneelers, but the wildlings seem to have a grudging respect for the Starks.You have to also consider that his upbringing (education, weapons training, etc) would make him a pretty valuable asset compared to the rest of the wildlings.

To me it seems like throughout the story (whether we're talking show or book), there are these wise characters who can recognize exceptional individuals around them who are destined for greater things than even the wise characters themselves are capable of. The characters capable of recognizing this also seem to have no problem serving or sacrificing for these exceptional people (we just got yet another example of this this week with the arrival of Jojen and Mira). In Jon's case that doesn't seem to take long either. He's quickly promoted by Mormont, Quorin sacrifices his life for Jon's after knowing him for a couple of days, and I think Mance recognizes it too.

I like that. And that's a nice counterbalance to the idea (mentioned in one of the threads) that (paraphrasing) "only the decietful or overly ambious seem to survive in this story".

 

[EYLive]

I mentioned this in the other thread, but there isn't much thinking or discussion of merit over there.I really think the writers dropped the ball with Cat and her motivation for letting Jaime go. Why did they not let cat and Robb know of theon "killing" bran and rickon? That grief is what set cat off. She needed her daughters back with her and safe at any cost. The writers however made it explicit that she had no clue about them with theon killing all ravens leaving winterfell. What's the rationale? How will that matter for the story?

Ultimately I don't think it will matter for the story. The same as adding the Jon Snow had the Pox and I prayed he lived scene. Catelyn is not a very likable character in the book and is turning out even less so in the show. I think the writers for the show may just think this motivation for her actions is more believable than the books.

The Snow/pox thing (and many other changes/tweaks) I am fine with. I think it ads a layer to Cat actually that GRRM didn't get that in to. My issue is I find it more plausible for Cat to free Jaime while grief stricken, rather than just worried. I'm not sure why they explicitly did not want Robb and Cat to know of what Theon "did". It makes me curious about whether such knowledge (or lack thereof) plays into Theon's storyline where he is now, or Cat's

Spoiler

motivation as Stoneheart (if we get her and to be honest I'd rather do without that plotline) in the future and her actions.

Spoiler

I actually hope they are softening her character so that it's juxtaposed to her Lady Stoneheart version. I want to see that on TV.

 

[Mister Martie]

I think the wildlings would deny it, but I suspect his Stark blood has something to do with his rapid acceptance. They may not be kneelers, but the wildlings seem to have a grudging respect for the Starks.You have to also consider that his upbringing (education, weapons training, etc) would make him a pretty valuable asset compared to the rest of the wildlings.

To me it seems like throughout the story (whether we're talking show or book), there are these wise characters who can recognize exceptional individuals around them who are destined for greater things than even the wise characters themselves are capable of. The characters capable of recognizing this also seem to have no problem serving or sacrificing for these exceptional people (we just got yet another example of this this week with the arrival of Jojen and Mira). In Jon's case that doesn't seem to take long either. He's quickly promoted by Mormont, Quorin sacrifices his life for Jon's after knowing him for a couple of days, and I think Mance recognizes it too.

I can get on board with this.

 

[Gr00vus]

I mentioned this in the other thread, but there isn't much thinking or discussion of merit over there.I really think the writers dropped the ball with Cat and her motivation for letting Jaime go. Why did they not let cat and Robb know of theon "killing" bran and rickon? That grief is what set cat off. She needed her daughters back with her and safe at any cost. The writers however made it explicit that she had no clue about them with theon killing all ravens leaving winterfell. What's the rationale? How will that matter for the story?

Ultimately I don't think it will matter for the story. The same as adding the Jon Snow had the Pox and I prayed he lived scene. Catelyn is not a very likable character in the book and is turning out even less so in the show. I think the writers for the show may just think this motivation for her actions is more believable than the books.

The Snow/pox thing (and many other changes/tweaks) I am fine with. I think it ads a layer to Cat actually that GRRM didn't get that in to. My issue is I find it more plausible for Cat to free Jaime while grief stricken, rather than just worried. I'm not sure why they explicitly did not want Robb and Cat to know of what Theon "did". It makes me curious about whether such knowledge (or lack thereof) plays into Theon's storyline where he is now, or Cat's

Spoiler

motivation as Stoneheart (if we get her and to be honest I'd rather do without that plotline) in the future and her actions.

Spoiler

I actually hope they are softening her character so that it's juxtaposed to her Lady Stoneheart version. I want to see that on TV.

Spoiler

I have to believe they chose the particular actress they did to portray Kat (as opposed to a younger person as she is in the books) because she'll fit the Stoneheart role well in addition to probably having to advance her age along with advancing the age of the Stark kids. When I see her I think, yeah she'll make a good Stoneheart, just like with the guy they chose to play Theon - he'll make a good Reek.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Jooooooo-Jen REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

llo

 

[EYLive]

Jooooooo-Jen REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

llo

Wait til he finds out there are leaked nudes of Meera.

 

[renesauz]

OK..who the heck just saved Theon? Huge departure from the books there I think...unless I've forgotten something? (It's been a few years since I read the first few books.)

Spoiler

I thought Theon was pretty much the Bolton bastards bii-itch until at least the end of ADWD)

 

[Doubtingthomas]

OK..who the heck just saved Theon? Huge departure from the books there I think...unless I've forgotten something? (It's been a few years since I read the first few books.)

Spoiler

I thought Theon was pretty much the Bolton bastards bii-itch until at least the end of ADWD)

You have it right in your spoiler there. Go back and watch the episode and i think you will catch the clue. They are going aout it differently than in the book if i remember right. same idea but moe drawn out you might say.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

OK..who the heck just saved Theon? Huge departure from the books there I think...unless I've forgotten something? (It's been a few years since I read the first few books.)

Spoiler

I thought Theon was pretty much the Bolton bastards bii-itch until at least the end of ADWD)

My guess is that is the shows version of

Spoiler

reek. Who will get him into trouble and "save" him a bunch of times until he reveals himself as ******* Ramsay Bolton.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I dont want to know too much, but am I correct in assuming that this theon plotline is either made up or from book 5 to keep him active in the show. I have read through book 4 and don't remember him in them at all since the sack of winterfell.

 

[Mister Martie]

I thought this was a particularly great episode.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

This was a great episode and this season is so much better than season 2. The character introductions and the setting up of the plots for this and future seasons are just so much smoother than how they did it last year. No complaints.

 

[Chadstroma]

Didn't see that coming.

 

[Abrantes]

I thought this was a particularly great episode.

Agreed. Also one of the first episodes in a while with no scenes that struck me as dumb or tonally "off". Cat's whining and 'look-down-and-close-eyes' thing is pretty obnoxious by now, but at least it fit.

Blackfish looks friggin' perfect. Also enjoy Noah Taylor, so that was good.

Hot Pie leaves us. Goodnight, sweet prince.

ETA: The Hold Steady's "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" over the credits was awesome. Dudes in charge of the music must be FFA regulars.

 

[thecatch]

Pod/Tyrion/Bronn scene was hillarious.

 

[=Smackdown=]

Fantastic episode

Enjoyed the small Council musical chairs scene.

Blackfish is perfect.

Bronn is hysterical - has some good one liners last night

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I was talking with a friend about season3 before episode 3 aired. and he brought up a good point.

How did Sam at the end of season 2, escape the white walker march? why didnt they show the crowes vs ww battle? budgets? or is that how the book went?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I was talking with a friend about season3 before episode 3 aired. and he brought up a good point. How did Sam at the end of season 2, escape the white walker march? why didnt they show the crowes vs ww battle? budgets? or is that how the book went?

In episode 2 they specifically say that he cowered and hid while the white walkers went to the fist for the battle.

 

[Sinn Fein]

OK..who the heck just saved Theon? Huge departure from the books there I think...unless I've forgotten something? (It's been a few years since I read the first few books.)

Spoiler

I thought Theon was pretty much the Bolton bastards bii-itch until at least the end of ADWD)

My guess is that is the shows version of

Spoiler

reek. Who will get him into trouble and "save" him a bunch of times until he reveals himself as ******* Ramsay Bolton.

Spoiler

Could be - one of the guys chasing Theon referred to the character as "you *******" right before he was shot - maybe a bit of foreshadowing ...

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I was talking with a friend about season3 before episode 3 aired. and he brought up a good point. How did Sam at the end of season 2, escape the white walker march? why didnt they show the crowes vs ww battle? budgets? or is that how the book went?

In episode 2 they specifically say that he cowered and hid while the white walkers went to the fist for the battle.

Right, hid behind a rock, kind of in plain sight, didnt one look right at him?

 

[Abrantes]

I was talking with a friend about season3 before episode 3 aired. and he brought up a good point.

How did Sam at the end of season 2, escape the white walker march? why didnt they show the crowes vs ww battle? budgets? or is that how the book went?

Probably the same way the deserter in the show's very first episode managed to run away. Consistency!

 

[The Dude]

I thought it was possibly the weakest episode of the entire series. And then throw in Jamie's hand at the end to give us something worth interest.