HBO - Song of Ice&Fire Series -Varsity Thread - no TV only whiners (2 Viewers)

[Runningman]

One thing I am quite upset about not seeing is Slayer.

Well it seems like that ship has sailed. :(

It's a timely coincidence for sure. Book readers know what/who Slayer is and I'm sure they're all wondering how an extremely important discovery is going to be made.

Which slayer?

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Tarley with the dragon glass

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I don't think they put that early scene in there for nothing. We'll probably see the Slayer soon.

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Yeah, they were waving it in our faces with it but I'm curious how/where it's going to happen.

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Yea, I don't get what they're waiting for.

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Some one else may get to become the slayer.

That wouldn't make any sense.

If Tarley brings it back and some other ranger uses it to kill an other, makes sense to me. Not sure if Tarley killing an other on the way back to the wall with only the girl and her baby as witnesses isn't going to work. I think the point is people see it and thus will believe it. Although this will probably entail an Other assault on the Wall or appearance during the attack by the Wildings. More deviation.

 

[renesauz]

Oh yeah, and I can't freaking wait to see the reactions of the non-book readers the next few episodes...

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The Red Wedding is gonna be epic for that thread. I can't help laughing at how far off much of the conjecture in that thread is.

 

[The Gator]

Oh yeah, and I can't freaking wait to see the reactions of the non-book readers the next few episodes...

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The Red Wedding is gonna be epic for that thread. I can't help laughing at how far off much of the conjecture in that thread is.

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I just hope the HBO people disguised it better than the Danny dragon/slave owner scene.

 

[mad sweeney]

Oh yeah, and I can't freaking wait to see the reactions of the non-book readers the next few episodes...

Spoiler

The Red Wedding is gonna be epic for that thread. I can't help laughing at how far off much of the conjecture in that thread is.

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I just hope the HBO people disguised it better than the Danny dragon/slave owner scene.

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I think they are going to. They've been playing up an almost heroic angle for Robb to face certain defeat yet swoop back in with Frey troops and strike the Lannisters at their own home. Plus the gallant idiot cousin paying for Robb's sin of love adding the sympathy angle to the whole ordeal. It should come as a total shock, I can't see them wasting such a huge moment. They did well with poor dead Ned.

 

[EYLive]

I almost wish there'd be a live chat while that episode airs.

 

[mad sweeney]

The only thing I've ever read that I had to go back and reread a few times to make sure I actually read what I read. The Apache scene in Blood Meridian. There's going to be a ####storm of epic proportions and I'm confidant they're going to do the setup and scene exceptionally well.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Oh yeah, and I can't freaking wait to see the reactions of the non-book readers the next few episodes...

Spoiler

The Red Wedding is gonna be epic for that thread. I can't help laughing at how far off much of the conjecture in that thread is.

It's not just that they're off, half the thread just doesn't seem to think or pay attention.

 

[Rick James]

Am I the only one who doesn't like Gillen's performance as Littlefinger? There's no subtlety at all to the character-- he's practically an 80s movie villain.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Oh yeah, and I can't freaking wait to see the reactions of the non-book readers the next few episodes...

Spoiler

The Red Wedding is gonna be epic for that thread. I can't help laughing at how far off much of the conjecture in that thread is.

Spoiler

I just hope the HBO people disguised it better than the Danny dragon/slave owner scene.

Spoiler

I think they are going to. They've been playing up an almost heroic angle for Robb to face certain defeat yet swoop back in with Frey troops and strike the Lannisters at their own home. Plus the gallant idiot cousin paying for Robb's sin of love adding the sympathy angle to the whole ordeal. It should come as a total shock, I can't see them wasting such a huge moment. They did well with poor dead Ned.

The Imp of the Perverse inside me wants to roll into that thread Saturday night and spill the beans. That'd be epic evil. I won't, of course, but still...

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Am I the only one who doesn't like Gillen's performance as Littlefinger? There's no subtlety at all to the character-- he's practically an 80s movie villain.

I'm not a fan either. The man who plays Varys is 1000X better. However, I think the TV adaption of Littlefinger is partially to blame too.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Am I the only one who doesn't like Gillen's performance as Littlefinger? There's no subtlety at all to the character-- he's practically an 80s movie villain.

I'm not a fan either. The man who plays Varys is 1000X better. However, I think the TV adaption of Littlefinger is partially to blame too.

I agree that they made Littlefinger too obviously a "bad guy" and Tyrion a little too much of a "good guy" although I like Tyrion's character the most still. I assume the writers know what GRRM's end game is, so perhaps there are reasons we don't know about regarding changes they make and story-lines they concentrate on or omit.

 

[CBusAlex]

I like Gillen as Littlefinger. The character is basically the personification of pure naked ambition. Even in the books, there's nothing subtle about it.

 

[encaitar]

I like Gillen as Littlefinger. The character is basically the personification of pure naked ambition. Even in the books, there's nothing subtle about it.

In the books, we were able to see the ambition as a reader, but yet he hid it from the other characters. In fact, I think only Varys really knew how ambitious Littlefinger was in the books. I think it's mostly played out like that in the tv series too, but there have been a few scenes where Littlefinger was a little unabashed about his goals.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Am I the only one who doesn't like Gillen's performance as Littlefinger? There's no subtlety at all to the character-- he's practically an 80s movie villain.

I'm not a fan either. The man who plays Varys is 1000X better. However, I think the TV adaption of Littlefinger is partially to blame too.

I agree that they made Littlefinger too obviously a "bad guy" and Tyrion a little too much of a "good guy" although I like Tyrion's character the most still. I assume the writers know what GRRM's end game is, so perhaps there are reasons we don't know about regarding changes they make and story-lines they concentrate on or omit.

Good v. Bad is always a matter of perspective. I always thought of Tyrion in the books as a good guy - flawed, but generally good (as compared to other Lannisters, notably Cersei and Tywin). He certainly relates and lives his life more amongst the common folk - albeit somewhat as a spoiled rich kid.

I also don't look at Littlefinger as inherently bad - ambitious, yes - but in the game of thrones, everyone plays the hand that is dealt. For Littlefinger, that means playing games of subterfuge - since he has no direct claim to power. He is in it for himself - really no different than any of the other players.

 

[Brady Marino]

Am I the only one who doesn't like Gillen's performance as Littlefinger? There's no subtlety at all to the character-- he's practically an 80s movie villain.

I'm not a fan either. The man who plays Varys is 1000X better. However, I think the TV adaption of Littlefinger is partially to blame too.

I agree that they made Littlefinger too obviously a "bad guy" and Tyrion a little too much of a "good guy" although I like Tyrion's character the most still. I assume the writers know what GRRM's end game is, so perhaps there are reasons we don't know about regarding changes they make and story-lines they concentrate on or omit.

Good v. Bad is always a matter of perspective. I always thought of Tyrion in the books as a good guy - flawed, but generally good (as compared to other Lannisters, notably Cersei and Tywin). He certainly relates and lives his life more amongst the common folk - albeit somewhat as a spoiled rich kid.

I also don't look at Littlefinger as inherently bad - ambitious, yes - but in the game of thrones, everyone plays the hand that is dealt. For Littlefinger, that means playing games of subterfuge - since he has no direct claim to power. He is in it for himself - really no different than any of the other players.

The way he sacrificed Ros (in the show, obviously not in the books) sealed the deal for making him a "bad guy", IMO.

 

[EYLive]

Am I the only one who doesn't like Gillen's performance as Littlefinger? There's no subtlety at all to the character-- he's practically an 80s movie villain.

He's a bit too smug. But I think the character has to be that way to deflect from his insecurities. At his point in the show he still holds no land or titles.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Lets not spoil or even hint at anything in the other thread. I'm really interested in predictions and reactions of non-readers and just generally how they accept magic, character archs, details, etc.

 

[Gr00vus]

One thing I find myself a bit surprised at missing are the wolves. They provided all kinds of foreshadowing, etc. in the books - I guess you can't really make that work on screen.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Lets not spoil or even hint at anything in the other thread. I'm really interested in predictions and reactions of non-readers and just generally how they accept magic, character archs, details, etc.

I try not to even post in there because I like to see how they discuss things without knowing what's supposed to happen. Sometimes its hard to not click 'reply' but I think I've been doing a pretty good job so far

 

[Bigboy10182000]

One thing I find myself a bit surprised at missing are the wolves. They provided all kinds of foreshadowing, etc. in the books - I guess you can't really make that work on screen.

They did a good job of foreshadowing in Season 1 as well but kind of let it go after that.

 

[bonesman]

Am I the only one who doesn't like Gillen's performance as Littlefinger? There's no subtlety at all to the character-- he's practically an 80s movie villain.

He's a bit too smug. But I think the character has to be that way to deflect from his insecurities. At his point in the show he still holds no land or titles.

Pffft... he's the Lord of Harrenhall and betrothed to Lady Lysa of the Eyrie!

He was my favorite character from the show before reading any of the books.... so far in season 3 he's been kinda meh to me. Haven't been able to put my (little) finger on why... maybe it's the lack of subtlety in his performance... but I've never really perceived him as a villain. A bit of a pragmatist in a pretty evil and violent world... but not so much a bad guy himself. Just a player in The Game.

 

[Thunderlips]

Am I the only one who doesn't like Gillen's performance as Littlefinger? There's no subtlety at all to the character-- he's practically an 80s movie villain.

He's a bit too smug. But I think the character has to be that way to deflect from his insecurities. At his point in the show he still holds no land or titles.

Pffft... he's the Lord of Harrenhall and betrothed to Lady Lysa of the Eyrie! He was my favorite character from the show before reading any of the books.... so far in season 3 he's been kinda meh to me. Haven't been able to put my (little) finger on why... maybe it's the lack of subtlety in his performance... but I've never really perceived him as a villain. A bit of a pragmatist in a pretty evil and violent world... but not so much a bad guy himself. Just a player in The Game.

I agree. To me, the only person to really fear him should probably be Sansa.....and that's because she's the offspring of the woman who slighted him and the brother of the guy who bested him in the duel for that woman. I could really see him revenge banging her a lot

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Am I the only one who doesn't like Gillen's performance as Littlefinger? There's no subtlety at all to the character-- he's practically an 80s movie villain.

He's a bit too smug. But I think the character has to be that way to deflect from his insecurities. At his point in the show he still holds no land or titles.

Pffft... he's the Lord of Harrenhall and betrothed to Lady Lysa of the Eyrie!

He was my favorite character from the show before reading any of the books.... so far in season 3 he's been kinda meh to me. Haven't been able to put my (little) finger on why... maybe it's the lack of subtlety in his performance... but I've never really perceived him as a villain. A bit of a pragmatist in a pretty evil and violent world... but not so much a bad guy himself. Just a player in The Game.

I agree with all of this and the bolded is one of the major reasons why I'm not the biggest fan of him on TV. It all started (I THINK) when he made the comment to Cerci last season that was completely out of character for him in the books.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I have a non reader who thinks Thrones is the best show of all time. He's bought into the magic and loves the depth. He thinks beric is going to be hugely important and didn't love the fight with the hound because he didn't fear any main characters are in danger anytime soon given the billboards etc.

 

[Gr00vus]

It would be outrageously funny if the joke ended up being on us and they deviate from the books in some huge way here.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

It would be outrageously funny if the joke ended up being on us and they deviate from the books in some huge way here.

Nah. There's a reason why GRRM wrote this weeks episode instead of episode 9 and that there's no description available for that episode.

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George said it pained him to write the red wedding the first time. He wrote that only after finishing the rest of the book because it depressed him. So he didn't want to relive that.

 

[EYLive]

Am I the only one who doesn't like Gillen's performance as Littlefinger? There's no subtlety at all to the character-- he's practically an 80s movie villain.

He's a bit too smug. But I think the character has to be that way to deflect from his insecurities. At his point in the show he still holds no land or titles.

Pffft... he's the Lord of Harrenhall and betrothed to Lady Lysa of the Eyrie!

He was my favorite character from the show before reading any of the books.... so far in season 3 he's been kinda meh to me. Haven't been able to put my (little) finger on why... maybe it's the lack of subtlety in his performance... but I've never really perceived him as a villain. A bit of a pragmatist in a pretty evil and violent world... but not so much a bad guy himself. Just a player in The Game.

Harrenhall is a dump. Hell, Robb promised Harrenhall to the Freys in the last episode too, right? And Petyr isn't betrothed to anyone yet. He still needs to woo that weirdo, Lysa.

 

[mad sweeney]

One thing I find myself a bit surprised at missing are the wolves. They provided all kinds of foreshadowing, etc. in the books - I guess you can't really make that work on screen.

They more or less ditched that in the first season when the dogs they had trained for the job turned out to be untenable. I actually thought they were using them more than they did the previous seasons in some pretty believable CGI. Unoftunately that's one of the things that fell to the wayside in the adaptation to screen.

Spoiler

I don't recall too much if Jon had much warg stuff going on but only the Bran storyline depends on it and they've had a couple of scenes already with his wolf in tow this season. The Arya/she-wolf stuff hasn't really come to any fruition in the books and they seem to have glossed over it entirely thus far in the show. I imagine though that Arya comes in like the avenging angel as a master assassin and mental leader of a giant pack of wolves during whatever final battle takes place

 

[Slider6]

Am I the only one who doesn't like Gillen's performance as Littlefinger? There's no subtlety at all to the character-- he's practically an 80s movie villain.

He's a bit too smug. But I think the character has to be that way to deflect from his insecurities. At his point in the show he still holds no land or titles.

Pffft... he's the Lord of Harrenhall and betrothed to Lady Lysa of the Eyrie!

He was my favorite character from the show before reading any of the books.... so far in season 3 he's been kinda meh to me. Haven't been able to put my (little) finger on why... maybe it's the lack of subtlety in his performance... but I've never really perceived him as a villain. A bit of a pragmatist in a pretty evil and violent world... but not so much a bad guy himself. Just a player in The Game.

Harrenhall is a dump. Hell, Robb promised Harrenhall to the Freys in the last episode too, right? And Petyr isn't betrothed to anyone yet. He still needs to woo that weirdo, Lysa.

Well, they are on different sides, so whichever side wins gets to move forward with the promise.

 

[Slider6]

Anyone looked at the synopses of the rest of season 3's episodes? Want to discuss what each is in reference to? Some are obvious, others not so much.

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Episode 3.07 The Bear and the Maiden Fair

Dany exchanges gifts with a slave lord outside of Yunkai. As Sansa frets about her prospects, Shae chafes at Tyrions new situation. Tywin counsels the king, and Melisandre reveals a secret to Gendry. Brienne faces a formidable foe in Harrenhal. (Written by George R. R. Martin; directed by Michelle MacLaren.)

Episode 3.08 Second Sons

Kings Landing hosts a wedding, and Tyrion and Sansa spend the night together. Dany meets the Titans *******. Davos demands proof from Melisandre. Sam and Gilly meet an older gentleman. (Written by David Benioff & D. B. Weiss; directed by Michelle MacLaren.)

Episode 3.09 The Rains of Castamere

Robb presents himself to Walder Frey, and Edmure meets his bride. Jon faces his harshest test yet. Bran discovers a new gift. Daario and Jorah debate how to take Yunkai. House Frey joins with House Tully. (Written by David Benioff & D. B. Weiss; directed by David Nutter.)

Episode 3.10 Mhysa

Joffrey challenges Tywin. Bran tells a ghost story. In Dragonstone, mercy comes from strange quarters. Dany waits to see if she is a conqueror or a liberator. (Written by David Benioff & D. B. Weiss; directed by David Nutter.)

Are they changing the Red Wedding?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Slider, that should all be in spoilers.

 

[Slider6]

Slider, that should all be in spoilers.

I thought we were in the book readers thread. Those aren't actual spoilers.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Slider, that should all be in spoilers.

I thought we were in the book readers thread. Those aren't actual spoilers.

I think people have construed the term

Spoiler

Red Wedding

to be a spoiler of sorts. This is the book thread, but we are still treading lightly.

 

[Slider6]

Anyone looked at the synopses of the rest of season 3's episodes? Want to discuss what each is in reference to? Some are obvious, others not so much.

Episode 3.07 The Bear and the Maiden FairDany exchanges gifts with a slave lord outside of Yunkai. As Sansa frets about her prospects, Shae chafes at Tyrions new situation. Tywin counsels the king, and Melisandre reveals a secret to Gendry. Brienne faces a formidable foe in Harrenhal. (Written by George R. R. Martin; directed by Michelle MacLaren.)Episode 3.08 Second SonsKings Landing hosts a wedding, and Tyrion and Sansa spend the night together. Dany meets the Titans *******. Davos demands proof from Melisandre. Sam and Gilly meet an older gentleman. (Written by David Benioff & D. B. Weiss; directed by Michelle MacLaren.) Episode 3.09 The Rains of CastamereRobb presents himself to Walder Frey, and Edmure meets his bride. Jon faces his harshest test yet. Bran discovers a new gift. Daario and Jorah debate how to take Yunkai. House Frey joins with House Tully. (Written by David Benioff & D. B. Weiss; directed by David Nutter.)Episode 3.10 MhysaJoffrey challenges Tywin. Bran tells a ghost story. In Dragonstone, mercy comes from strange quarters. Dany waits to see if she is a conqueror or a liberator. (Written by David Benioff & D. B. Weiss; directed by David Nutter.)

Spoiler

Are they changing the Red Wedding?

 

[Slider6]

Slider, that should all be in spoilers.

I thought we were in the book readers thread. Those aren't actual spoilers.

I think people have construed the term

Spoiler

Red Wedding

to be a spoiler of sorts. This is the book thread, but we are still treading lightly.

Ah, my bad. How's that?

 

[mad sweeney]

Slider, that should all be in spoilers.

I thought we were in the book readers thread. Those aren't actual spoilers.

I think people have construed the term

Spoiler

Red Wedding

Spoiler

to be a spoiler of sorts. This is the book thread, but we are still treading lightly.

Ah, my bad. How's that?

Good, but no they won't be changing it.

 

[Vrana]

Local dive bar just started doing trivia, and tonight is Game of Thrones themed. I'm ready to dominate.

 

[Gr00vus]

One thing I find myself a bit surprised at missing are the wolves. They provided all kinds of foreshadowing, etc. in the books - I guess you can't really make that work on screen.

They more or less ditched that in the first season when the dogs they had trained for the job turned out to be untenable. I actually thought they were using them more than they did the previous seasons in some pretty believable CGI. Unoftunately that's one of the things that fell to the wayside in the adaptation to screen.

Spoiler

I don't recall too much if Jon had much warg stuff going on but only the Bran storyline depends on it and they've had a couple of scenes already with his wolf in tow this season. The Arya/she-wolf stuff hasn't really come to any fruition in the books and they seem to have glossed over it entirely thus far in the show. I imagine though that Arya comes in like the avenging angel as a master assassin and mental leader of a giant pack of wolves during whatever final battle takes place

Spoiler

Greywind in the Robb/Catetlyn storyline is an interesting and telling subplot that I find myself missing.

 

[Slider6]

One thing I find myself a bit surprised at missing are the wolves. They provided all kinds of foreshadowing, etc. in the books - I guess you can't really make that work on screen.

They more or less ditched that in the first season when the dogs they had trained for the job turned out to be untenable. I actually thought they were using them more than they did the previous seasons in some pretty believable CGI. Unoftunately that's one of the things that fell to the wayside in the adaptation to screen.

Spoiler

I don't recall too much if Jon had much warg stuff going on but only the Bran storyline depends on it and they've had a couple of scenes already with his wolf in tow this season. The Arya/she-wolf stuff hasn't really come to any fruition in the books and they seem to have glossed over it entirely thus far in the show. I imagine though that Arya comes in like the avenging angel as a master assassin and mental leader of a giant pack of wolves during whatever final battle takes place

Spoiler

Greywind in the Robb/Catetlyn storyline is an interesting and telling subplot that I find myself missing.

Remind me what that was. I'm finding myself forgetting a bunch or not remembering correctly.

Spoiler

I don't remember the Sansa/Loras talk at all.

I don't remember Edric Storm.

I thought Arya & the Hound were together at the RW aftermath.

Oh, and a future book question.

Spoiler

Where are people getting the "Davos is going to Skagos to bring Rickon back" talk from?

 

[Moe.]

To your last question Slider6

Spoiler

It's not really speculation or talk, Manderly learns that Rickon survived the sack of Winterfell and he sends Davos to retrieve him

 

[Slider6]

To your last question Slider6

Spoiler

It's not really speculation or talk, Manderly learns that Rickon survived the sack of Winterfell and he sends Davos to retrieve him

Yeah, I just did some wiki reading. It seems that I've forgot most of AFFC. That book was a chore to read after the awesomeness of ASOS. I just finished ADWD and couldn't remember any talk of either character. I think it would be awesome if someone put AFFC & ADWD together in chronological format rather than split by POV.

 

[sn0mm1s]

One thing I find myself a bit surprised at missing are the wolves. They provided all kinds of foreshadowing, etc. in the books - I guess you can't really make that work on screen.

They more or less ditched that in the first season when the dogs they had trained for the job turned out to be untenable. I actually thought they were using them more than they did the previous seasons in some pretty believable CGI. Unoftunately that's one of the things that fell to the wayside in the adaptation to screen.

Spoiler

I don't recall too much if Jon had much warg stuff going on but only the Bran storyline depends on it and they've had a couple of scenes already with his wolf in tow this season. The Arya/she-wolf stuff hasn't really come to any fruition in the books and they seem to have glossed over it entirely thus far in the show. I imagine though that Arya comes in like the avenging angel as a master assassin and mental leader of a giant pack of wolves during whatever final battle takes place

Spoiler

Greywind in the Robb/Catetlyn storyline is an interesting and telling subplot that I find myself missing.

Remind me what that was. I'm finding myself forgetting a bunch or not remembering correctly.

Spoiler

I don't remember the Sansa/Loras talk at all.

I don't remember Edric Storm.

I thought Arya & the Hound were together at the RW aftermath.

Oh, and a future book question.

Spoiler

Where are people getting the "Davos is going to Skagos to bring Rickon back" talk from?

Spoiler

Sansa and Loras never were mentioned as a match since Loras was raised to the Kingsguard once Joffrey put aside Sansa for Margaery. Loras has two brother, the eldest Willis (who is crippled) is the heir to Highgarden and suggested as a match by Margaery and Lady Olenna.

Edric is a ******* of Robert Baratheon who was being held by Ser Penrose at Storm's End. Ser Penrose is killed by one of Melisandre's shadow children. She wants to use Edric for a sacrifice (Gendry has taken his position in the TV show).

Arya and The Hound actually get together earlier than the RW. Arya runs off into the rain and Sandor kidnaps her for ransom.

Wex, Theon's mute squire, saw/overheard the conversation between the dying Maester of Winterfell and Asha, Bran, Rickon, and the Reeds in Winterfell's Godswood.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Local dive bar just started doing trivia, and tonight is Game of Thrones themed. I'm ready to dominate.

As soon as it starts just blurt out that Dany takes over the world in the end and see what happens.

 

[Slider6]

One thing I find myself a bit surprised at missing are the wolves. They provided all kinds of foreshadowing, etc. in the books - I guess you can't really make that work on screen.

They more or less ditched that in the first season when the dogs they had trained for the job turned out to be untenable. I actually thought they were using them more than they did the previous seasons in some pretty believable CGI. Unoftunately that's one of the things that fell to the wayside in the adaptation to screen.

Spoiler

I don't recall too much if Jon had much warg stuff going on but only the Bran storyline depends on it and they've had a couple of scenes already with his wolf in tow this season. The Arya/she-wolf stuff hasn't really come to any fruition in the books and they seem to have glossed over it entirely thus far in the show. I imagine though that Arya comes in like the avenging angel as a master assassin and mental leader of a giant pack of wolves during whatever final battle takes place

Spoiler

Greywind in the Robb/Catetlyn storyline is an interesting and telling subplot that I find myself missing.

Remind me what that was. I'm finding myself forgetting a bunch or not remembering correctly.

Spoiler

I don't remember the Sansa/Loras talk at all.

I don't remember Edric Storm.

I thought Arya & the Hound were together at the RW aftermath.

Oh, and a future book question.

Spoiler

Where are people getting the "Davos is going to Skagos to bring Rickon back" talk from?

Spoiler

Sansa and Loras never were mentioned as a match since Loras was raised to the Kingsguard once Joffrey put aside Sansa for Margaery. Loras has two brother, the eldest Willis (who is crippled) is the heir to Highgarden and suggested as a match by Margaery and Lady Olenna.

Edric is a ******* of Robert Baratheon who was being held by Ser Penrose at Storm's End. Ser Penrose is killed by one of Melisandre's shadow children. She wants to use Edric for a sacrifice (Gendry has taken his position in the TV show).

Arya and The Hound actually get together earlier than the RW. Arya runs off into the rain and Sandor kidnaps her for ransom.

Wex, Theon's mute squire, saw/overheard the conversation between the dying Maester of Winterfell and Asha, Bran, Rickon, and the Reeds in Winterfell's Godswood.

Spoiler

• Probably better to use Loras than Willis since he hasn't been introduced at all. I knew I wasn't going crazy.
• Yeah, for some reason I don't remember Edric at all. I really need to reread these books.
• I couldn't remember how they got together, but I assume it happens in the next episode.
• Again, I need to reread these things.

Thanks for your answers.

 

[Psychopav]

From the TV show thread:

I don't think Edmure will go through with the wedding and that will hurt Robb's chances in battle. If a big name is going to die, I think it'll be Robb Stark.I also think Tywin has pushed too hard and will not survive the season. Sersei or Tyrion (or both) will plot against him. Really interested to see how Robert's ******* son plays into all of this, especially in the hands of the witch.

GREAT call on Tywin - I hadn't thought of it, but I'd definitely go that route if I were one of his kids.Really curious to see what happens with Robert's ******* as well. Didn't the redhead priestess say something like "You will make and destroy kings" to him?? What's that all about? "Make kings" is a weird thing to say to the son of the king you're aligned with...

I actually forgot who he was until she said that and took him away.

He's not Stannis' son. He's the ******* of Robert. So, I think technically, he's the rightful king and Stannis wouldn't want to get rid of him. But does Stannis even know about him?

Careful Slider - you are dangerously close to violating the Prime Directive!!

 

[Slider6]

From the TV show thread:

I don't think Edmure will go through with the wedding and that will hurt Robb's chances in battle. If a big name is going to die, I think it'll be Robb Stark.I also think Tywin has pushed too hard and will not survive the season. Sersei or Tyrion (or both) will plot against him. Really interested to see how Robert's ******* son plays into all of this, especially in the hands of the witch.

GREAT call on Tywin - I hadn't thought of it, but I'd definitely go that route if I were one of his kids.Really curious to see what happens with Robert's ******* as well. Didn't the redhead priestess say something like "You will make and destroy kings" to him?? What's that all about? "Make kings" is a weird thing to say to the son of the king you're aligned with...

I actually forgot who he was until she said that and took him away.

He's not Stannis' son. He's the ******* of Robert. So, I think technically, he's the rightful king and Stannis wouldn't want to get rid of him. But does Stannis even know about him?

Careful Slider - you are dangerously close to violating the Prime Directive!!

I'm innocent! Everything I said has been in the show already. Heck, I didn't even say anything about Edric Storm.

 

[jamny]

I like when you guys that have read the books make us think a little in the other thread.

Without ruining anything that is.

I even skim (quickly) this thread to get a little more insight. I appreciate the spoiler tags.

 

[shuke]

Am I the only one who doesn't like Gillen's performance as Littlefinger? There's no subtlety at all to the character-- he's practically an 80s movie villain.

Not a fan.

 

[Rick James]

Am I the only one who doesn't like Gillen's performance as Littlefinger? There's no subtlety at all to the character-- he's practically an 80s movie villain.

Not a fan.

Part of it, I'm sure, is being spoiled by Roy Dotrice's interpretation in the audio books.

EDIT: When I re-read the books I tend to read in Dotrice's voices.

 

[shuke]

Am I the only one who doesn't like Gillen's performance as Littlefinger? There's no subtlety at all to the character-- he's practically an 80s movie villain.

Not a fan.

Part of it, I'm sure, is being spoiled by Roy Dotrice's interpretation in the audio books.

EDIT: When I re-read the books I tend to read in Dotrice's voices.

Maybe for me it had to do with how I pictured him in the books. Regardless, I think he is way overacting.