HBO - Song of Ice&Fire Series -Varsity Thread - no TV only whiners (2 Viewers)

[Amused to Death]

You'll either have to go to the GoT Spoilers OK Through Book 3 thread or the GoT Spoilers OK Until The Beginning of Book 4 thread.

I think I need to start the "GoT must use spoilers after book 3" thread. Look for it soon.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

i feel like GoT threads are similar to WW threads and i keep fearing I will holy crap byu posting in the wrong one

who knows if this has been posted in any of the half dozen GoT threads, i'll post it in all of them

http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/steps-to-get-over-your-game-of-thrones-sadness

Pretty awful.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

So, Coldhands next week? Jon gets to castle black to warn the few who are left and prep for battle? I do not think we get the first stage of the battle next week. I'm not sure what cliffhanger we get, although may Coldhands is a bit of one, especially if they show him to actually be Benjen Stark. What else could be in store for the season finale?

The cliffhanger could be Lady Stonheart

too early. gotta make people forget about her to make it more shocking.

Maybe the brother hood finds her body though.

 

[Clifford]

Right, ok do remember that. And you don't have to use spoiler tags. The illiterate or slow are no longer cowed to in here.

I'll probably still stick with them just in case a someone not caught up happens to hit this thread (purposefully or accidentally). I'd feel freer about the no spoiler thing in the ADWD thread.

Exactly. Guess I can't read this thread anymore. I've read through book 3. Dangerous to read this one....cast out of the TV thread....

I finished each book in about 2 weeks. Get on it man!

 

[kneeshooter]

So, Coldhands next week? Jon gets to castle black to warn the few who are left and prep for battle? I do not think we get the first stage of the battle next week. I'm not sure what cliffhanger we get, although may Coldhands is a bit of one, especially if they show him to actually be Benjen Stark. What else could be in store for the season finale?

The cliffhanger could be Lady Stonheart

too early. gotta make people forget about her to make it more shocking.

Here's why I think they might:

1. They need to give the viewers an uplift after Ep 9.

2. The precedent was set with Theon to discard the chronological differences between the book/show.

3. With the emphasis this season on Beric and his resurrections it is fresh in the viewers minds

4. What else are they gonna end with?

5. The surprise will be lessened when it is announced Michelle Fairly has signed on for S4 anyways

You may very well be right but I'm thinking there's a chance

 

[B-Deep]

i feel like GoT threads are similar to WW threads and i keep fearing I will holy crap byu posting in the wrong one

who knows if this has been posted in any of the half dozen GoT threads, i'll post it in all of them

http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/steps-to-get-over-your-game-of-thrones-sadness

Pretty awful.

oh come on

tywin alone was worth clicking on the link for!

 

[Gr00vus]

So, Coldhands next week? Jon gets to castle black to warn the few who are left and prep for battle? I do not think we get the first stage of the battle next week. I'm not sure what cliffhanger we get, although may Coldhands is a bit of one, especially if they show him to actually be Benjen Stark. What else could be in store for the season finale?

The cliffhanger could be Lady Stonheart

too early. gotta make people forget about her to make it more shocking.

Here's why I think they might:

1. They need to give the viewers an uplift after Ep 9.

2. The precedent was set with Theon to discard the chronological differences between the book/show.

3. With the emphasis this season on Beric and his resurrections it is fresh in the viewers minds

4. What else are they gonna end with?

5. The surprise will be lessened when it is announced Michelle Fairly has signed on for S4 anyways

You may very well be right but I'm thinking there's a chance

That's a really good point.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

So, Coldhands next week? Jon gets to castle black to warn the few who are left and prep for battle? I do not think we get the first stage of the battle next week. I'm not sure what cliffhanger we get, although may Coldhands is a bit of one, especially if they show him to actually be Benjen Stark. What else could be in store for the season finale?

The cliffhanger could be Lady Stonheart

too early. gotta make people forget about her to make it more shocking.

Here's why I think they might:

1. They need to give the viewers an uplift after Ep 9.

2. The precedent was set with Theon to discard the chronological differences between the book/show.

3. With the emphasis this season on Beric and his resurrections it is fresh in the viewers minds

4. What else are they gonna end with?

5. The surprise will be lessened when it is announced Michelle Fairly has signed on for S4 anyways

You may very well be right but I'm thinking there's a chance

That's a really good point.

There's always flashbacks.

 

[Hodor]

Think they will do wolf king scene? I hated reading that

 

[Gr00vus]

So, Coldhands next week? Jon gets to castle black to warn the few who are left and prep for battle? I do not think we get the first stage of the battle next week. I'm not sure what cliffhanger we get, although may Coldhands is a bit of one, especially if they show him to actually be Benjen Stark. What else could be in store for the season finale?

The cliffhanger could be Lady Stonheart

too early. gotta make people forget about her to make it more shocking.

Here's why I think they might:

1. They need to give the viewers an uplift after Ep 9.

2. The precedent was set with Theon to discard the chronological differences between the book/show.

3. With the emphasis this season on Beric and his resurrections it is fresh in the viewers minds

4. What else are they gonna end with?

5. The surprise will be lessened when it is announced Michelle Fairly has signed on for S4 anyways

You may very well be right but I'm thinking there's a chance

That's a really good point.

There's always flashbacks.

Also a good point.

 

[Amused to Death]

Think they will do wolf king scene? I hated reading that

Its my guess for an ending visual before the screen goes black.

 

[Fiddles]

re: foreshadowing - there were just as many foreshadowing moments in the book... Cat's preoccupation with the hospitality food, etc...

Yeah, I've been accused of being a #### for saying this before, but I've never understood how a reader could have been shocked by the Red Wedding. I pretty much assumed Robb was dead as soon as he broke the oath. I don't thinks assumed Catelyn would get it, but I never figured Robb would be around for the end game. He never even got a viewpoint chapter, IIRC.

You figured Robb wouldn't last, but I didn't see a total wipeout of a significant portion of the north's top brass and its main army, as well as Kat, coming. And the set up for it was pretty brutal. Martin got you thinking it might be possible for Robb to work out of it - and then wham. You figured Robb might get whacked but there'd be payback by the north - instead Martin wrote near total devastation and left little to no hope for the north any time soon. That's what made it so shocking.

For me the worst part of the red wedding was arya being so close to finally reuniting with her family.

It was even worse in the book when they ended Arya's chapter with the possibility that she too was dead. I had to put the book down for a while after that.

I skipped ahead to see if she died

 

[(HULK)]

If King's blood is so all powerful that you can just get a leech fat with some and then burn him and people die... why not just leech some blood off of Stanis? You know, an ACTUAL king, as opposed to the ******* of a former king?

 

[Clifford]

So, Coldhands next week? Jon gets to castle black to warn the few who are left and prep for battle? I do not think we get the first stage of the battle next week. I'm not sure what cliffhanger we get, although may Coldhands is a bit of one, especially if they show him to actually be Benjen Stark. What else could be in store for the season finale?

The cliffhanger could be Lady Stonheart

too early. gotta make people forget about her to make it more shocking.

Here's why I think they might:

1. They need to give the viewers an uplift after Ep 9.

2. The precedent was set with Theon to discard the chronological differences between the book/show.

3. With the emphasis this season on Beric and his resurrections it is fresh in the viewers minds

4. What else are they gonna end with?

5. The surprise will be lessened when it is announced Michelle Fairly has signed on for S4 anyways

You may very well be right but I'm thinking there's a chance

Stoneheart does not come across as very uplifting in the books especially when (sigh #finishthebooks)

Spoiler

The last we see of her is hanging Brienne to death, of course we know that Brienne won't actually die

 

[Mile High]

If King's blood is so all powerful that you can just get a leech fat with some and then burn him and people die... why not just leech some blood off of Stanis? You know, an ACTUAL king, as opposed to the ******* of a former king?

When was Stannis a king?.

 

[CBusAlex]

If King's blood is so all powerful that you can just get a leech fat with some and then burn him and people die... why not just leech some blood off of Stanis? You know, an ACTUAL king, as opposed to the ******* of a former king?

Mellisandre originally thought she would have to sacrifice Gendry/Edric for the blood to work, but Davos talked Stannis out of letting her do it. Not sure she really knows if the leeches will work. Also she apparently used up most of Stannis's midichlorians or whatever making the shadow baby (which is why she can't just keep making them) so he might not have enough left for the blood stuff to work.

 

[B-Deep]

If King's blood is so all powerful that you can just get a leech fat with some and then burn him and people die... why not just leech some blood off of Stanis? You know, an ACTUAL king, as opposed to the ******* of a former king?

When was Stannis a king?.

If you believe Stannis and his Red woman's propaganda, the moment Robert died

 

[B-Deep]

If King's blood is so all powerful that you can just get a leech fat with some and then burn him and people die... why not just leech some blood off of Stanis? You know, an ACTUAL king, as opposed to the ******* of a former king?

Mellisandre originally thought she would have to sacrifice Gendry/Edric for the blood to work, but Davos talked Stannis out of letting her do it. Not sure she really knows if the leeches will work. Also she apparently used up most of Stannis's midichlorians or whatever making the shadow baby (which is why she can't just keep making them) so he might not have enough left for the blood stuff to work.

lolol

where was this all explained?

 

[Abrantes]

Think they will do wolf king scene? I hated reading that

Its my guess for an ending visual before the screen goes black.

http://media.tumblr.com/8fef2f16239f08304ce3af16213a342e/tumblr_inline_mnrw3aNGZj1qz4rgp.gif]My link

 

[CBusAlex]

If King's blood is so all powerful that you can just get a leech fat with some and then burn him and people die... why not just leech some blood off of Stanis? You know, an ACTUAL king, as opposed to the ******* of a former king?

Mellisandre originally thought she would have to sacrifice Gendry/Edric for the blood to work, but Davos talked Stannis out of letting her do it. Not sure she really knows if the leeches will work. Also she apparently used up most of Stannis's midichlorians or whatever making the shadow baby (which is why she can't just keep making them) so he might not have enough left for the blood stuff to work.

lolol where was this all explained?

Storm of Swords, chapter 42.6E. You're in the book thread now, noob!

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

If King's blood is so all powerful that you can just get a leech fat with some and then burn him and people die... why not just leech some blood off of Stanis? You know, an ACTUAL king, as opposed to the ******* of a former king?

Mellisandre originally thought she would have to sacrifice Gendry/Edric for the blood to work, but Davos talked Stannis out of letting her do it. Not sure she really knows if the leeches will work. Also she apparently used up most of Stannis's midichlorians or whatever making the shadow baby (which is why she can't just keep making them) so he might not have enough left for the blood stuff to work.

lolol

where was this all explained?

It was in the show this season.

 

[B-Deep]

If King's blood is so all powerful that you can just get a leech fat with some and then burn him and people die... why not just leech some blood off of Stanis? You know, an ACTUAL king, as opposed to the ******* of a former king?

Mellisandre originally thought she would have to sacrifice Gendry/Edric for the blood to work, but Davos talked Stannis out of letting her do it. Not sure she really knows if the leeches will work. Also she apparently used up most of Stannis's midichlorians or whatever making the shadow baby (which is why she can't just keep making them) so he might not have enough left for the blood stuff to work.

lolol where was this all explained?

Storm of Swords, chapter 42.6E. You're in the book thread now, noob!

storm of swords was like 2000 pages ago!

i'll have to wait till the graphic novel catches up

lol

 

[B-Deep]

If King's blood is so all powerful that you can just get a leech fat with some and then burn him and people die... why not just leech some blood off of Stanis? You know, an ACTUAL king, as opposed to the ******* of a former king?

Mellisandre originally thought she would have to sacrifice Gendry/Edric for the blood to work, but Davos talked Stannis out of letting her do it. Not sure she really knows if the leeches will work. Also she apparently used up most of Stannis's midichlorians or whatever making the shadow baby (which is why she can't just keep making them) so he might not have enough left for the blood stuff to work.

lolol

where was this all explained?

It was in the show this season.

i am a season behind, but i read the books

no hbo :(

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Think they will do wolf king scene? I hated reading that

Its my guess for an ending visual before the screen goes black.

My link

Now that's funny

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

If King's blood is so all powerful that you can just get a leech fat with some and then burn him and people die... why not just leech some blood off of Stanis? You know, an ACTUAL king, as opposed to the ******* of a former king?

Mellisandre originally thought she would have to sacrifice Gendry/Edric for the blood to work, but Davos talked Stannis out of letting her do it. Not sure she really knows if the leeches will work. Also she apparently used up most of Stannis's midichlorians or whatever making the shadow baby (which is why she can't just keep making them) so he might not have enough left for the blood stuff to work.

lolol

where was this all explained?

It was in the show this season.

i am a season behind, but i read the books

no hbo

Gotta be a thread for that.

 

[B-Deep]

If King's blood is so all powerful that you can just get a leech fat with some and then burn him and people die... why not just leech some blood off of Stanis? You know, an ACTUAL king, as opposed to the ******* of a former king?

Mellisandre originally thought she would have to sacrifice Gendry/Edric for the blood to work, but Davos talked Stannis out of letting her do it. Not sure she really knows if the leeches will work. Also she apparently used up most of Stannis's midichlorians or whatever making the shadow baby (which is why she can't just keep making them) so he might not have enough left for the blood stuff to work.

lolol

where was this all explained?

It was in the show this season.

i am a season behind, but i read the books

no hbo

Gotta be a thread for that.

I think I'll opt for a Renly Baratheon appreciation thread

 

[mad sweeney]

So, Coldhands next week? Jon gets to castle black to warn the few who are left and prep for battle? I do not think we get the first stage of the battle next week. I'm not sure what cliffhanger we get, although may Coldhands is a bit of one, especially if they show him to actually be Benjen Stark. What else could be in store for the season finale?

Wildlibgs amassed at the Wall. Joffrey gloating in victory, giving a whole offseason of thorough loathing.

 

[kneeshooter]

So, Coldhands next week? Jon gets to castle black to warn the few who are left and prep for battle? I do not think we get the first stage of the battle next week. I'm not sure what cliffhanger we get, although may Coldhands is a bit of one, especially if they show him to actually be Benjen Stark. What else could be in store for the season finale?

The cliffhanger could be Lady Stonheart

too early. gotta make people forget about her to make it more shocking.

Here's why I think they might:

1. They need to give the viewers an uplift after Ep 9.

2. The precedent was set with Theon to discard the chronological differences between the book/show.

3. With the emphasis this season on Beric and his resurrections it is fresh in the viewers minds

4. What else are they gonna end with?

5. The surprise will be lessened when it is announced Michelle Fairly has signed on for S4 anyways

You may very well be right but I'm thinking there's a chance

Stoneheart does not come across as very uplifting in the books especially when (sigh #finishthebooks)

Spoiler

The last we see of her is hanging Brienne to death, of course we know that Brienne won't actually die

Tv viewers wont know that though - they will be happy with the development and the perceived impending revenge

 

[babydemon90]

So, Coldhands next week? Jon gets to castle black to warn the few who are left and prep for battle? I do not think we get the first stage of the battle next week. I'm not sure what cliffhanger we get, although may Coldhands is a bit of one, especially if they show him to actually be Benjen Stark. What else could be in store for the season finale?

The cliffhanger could be Lady Stonheart

too early. gotta make people forget about her to make it more shocking.

right... that wasn't till the very end if I recall.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

I don't expect any big payoffs. I'd guess they'll be similar to the first two seasons and use the time to set up where we'll be starting.

So we'll know that Davos is trying to convince Stannis of something, but probably won't know what.

We'll know that John is back at the wall facing some politics as he tries to prepare for an invasion that he knows is coming.

Presumably Sam/Gilly and Bran/the Reeds will at least be preparing to approach the wall from opposite directions. There could be a Coldhands scene, but I'm not sure he'll be shown (this has the potential to be super cheesy and I don't know how the show will handle it).

I presume Yara is in as a device to learn of Balon Greyjoy's death, which I imagine will not be shown.

 

[Thunderlips]

I am in favor of removing the spoiler tags from this thread. Make this thread for people all caught up on the books and the show.

FTR, I haven't read ADWD...but I don't care about being spoiled. I know the broadstrokes of that book anyway.

 

[Thunderlips]

I don't think Bran will warg with the dragons. They seem to have taken some pains to highlight that Bran is unique because he can warg to humans. This is completely new speculation that I'm throwing out of my ###, but there would be a certain narrative symmetry if Bran were to be able to enter Catelyn and in some way heal her pain. If we think of the journey from Catelyn Stary to Lady Stoneheart as one that essentially starts with Bran's injury, there's a certain appeal to having it be Bran who walks her back.

Prologue of Book5 indicates that Bran is not as unique as you think.

Is that why Howland Reed hasn't been around?

 

[Thunderlips]

So, Coldhands next week? Jon gets to castle black to warn the few who are left and prep for battle? I do not think we get the first stage of the battle next week. I'm not sure what cliffhanger we get, although may Coldhands is a bit of one, especially if they show him to actually be Benjen Stark. What else could be in store for the season finale?

The cliffhanger could be Lady Stonheart

too early. gotta make people forget about her to make it more shocking.

Here's why I think they might:

1. They need to give the viewers an uplift after Ep 9.

2. The precedent was set with Theon to discard the chronological differences between the book/show.

3. With the emphasis this season on Beric and his resurrections it is fresh in the viewers minds

4. What else are they gonna end with?

5. The surprise will be lessened when it is announced Michelle Fairly has signed on for S4 anyways

You may very well be right but I'm thinking there's a chance

The whole conversation between Arya and Thoros about "bringing back a man who lost his head once" has set up Stonehands for the finale here. Whether or not they show the actual resurrection..I don't know....but I think they might do the epilogue scene from ASOS and kill whatever Frey killed Robb's wife.

 

[Psychopav]

I don't think Bran will warg with the dragons. They seem to have taken some pains to highlight that Bran is unique because he can warg to humans. This is completely new speculation that I'm throwing out of my ###, but there would be a certain narrative symmetry if Bran were to be able to enter Catelyn and in some way heal her pain. If we think of the journey from Catelyn Stary to Lady Stoneheart as one that essentially starts with Bran's injury, there's a certain appeal to having it be Bran who walks her back.

Prologue of Book5 indicates that Bran is not as unique as you think.

I was thinking that when Jojen was giving his spiel in the show this week.

Wasn't the Wilding chick supposed to freak out about Bran entering Hodor?

 

[CBusAlex]

Wasn't the Wilding chick supposed to freak out about Bran entering Hodor?

Phrasing!

 

[Psychopav]

Right, ok do remember that. And you don't have to use spoiler tags. The illiterate or slow are no longer cowed to in here.

I'll probably still stick with them just in case a someone not caught up happens to hit this thread (purposefully or accidentally). I'd feel freer about the no spoiler thing in the ADWD thread.

Exactly. Guess I can't read this thread anymore. I've read through book 3. Dangerous to read this one....cast out of the TV thread....

OUT WITH YOU!!

 

[Psychopav]

Wasn't the Wilding chick supposed to freak out about Bran entering Hodor?

Phrasing!

Bran was so gentle...it was a moment Hodor had been longing for his whole life...

 

[Rush Limbaugh Fan]

Spoiler

So is zombie cat going to appear in the next episode or next season? Same with joffery's death?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Spoiler

So is zombie cat going to appear in the next episode or next season? Same with joffery's death?

My vote is next season for both. Definitely the latter next year. Might get her pulled out of the river and discovered though.

 

[Mile High]

So, Coldhands next week? Jon gets to castle black to warn the few who are left and prep for battle? I do not think we get the first stage of the battle next week. I'm not sure what cliffhanger we get, although may Coldhands is a bit of one, especially if they show him to actually be Benjen Stark. What else could be in store for the season finale?

The cliffhanger could be Lady Stonheart

too early. gotta make people forget about her to make it more shocking.

Here's why I think they might:

1. They need to give the viewers an uplift after Ep 9.

2. The precedent was set with Theon to discard the chronological differences between the book/show.

3. With the emphasis this season on Beric and his resurrections it is fresh in the viewers minds

4. What else are they gonna end with?

5. The surprise will be lessened when it is announced Michelle Fairly has signed on for S4 anyways

You may very well be right but I'm thinking there's a chance

I just saw she signed on to a role on Suits.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Realistically, they could get away with her only being in one episode in S4 - skip to the reveal with Brienne.

 

[The Gator]

Spoiler

how far in the book is joff's death? I really hope it isn't episode 9 next season. It needs to be earlier and really catch people of guard.

 

[Gr00vus]

Looking at Michelle Fairley's filmography on IMDB I find she was in the film The Others.

 

[Gr00vus]

Spoiler

how far in the book is joff's death? I really hope it isn't episode 9 next season. It needs to be earlier and really catch people of guard.

Spoiler

I figure that happens in the 1st half of next season, setting up Tywin's #### house escapade happening towards the end of the season.

 

[Psychopav]

No spoilers lasted less than a page? Weak sauce.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Grrm is writing episode 2 ......

 

[ScottNorwood]

Grrm is writing episode 2 ......

He also wrote the source material

 

[babydemon90]

Spoiler

So is zombie cat going to appear in the next episode or next season? Same with joffery's death?

My vote is next season for both. Definitely the latter next year. Might get her pulled out of the river and discovered though.agreed. Next season should be heavy on Lannisters / Wall storylines - there is not much left in Dany's arc to cover...

 

[babydemon90]

Speaking of Dany, have we discussed the fact she knows who Barristan Selmy since practically the beginning? Her finding out who he really was was a fairly big event, which hadn't happened yet in the show timeline, no?

Spoiler

The whole being betrayed by him and Jorah, so she sent them into the sewers, then had to judge them, etc..

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Grrm is writing episode 2 ......

He also wrote the source material

And the pointy end and Blackwater. I'd bet he is writing the wedding.