This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
The Craster's Keep stuff is all new. I think it's a pretty good idea actually. Bran's story was already dipping into ADWD material. The show can put them at Craster's place for as long as they want to allow the other stories to catch up. I'm sure Jon & Co. will arrive there around episode 7 or 8.
Good call, I actually thought the lone walker carrying the baby was cold hands until they showed him close up.
My friend texted me something about Hodor possibly being cold hands. Said there was a scene where he was outside Craster's and it looked like he was getting frost bit and he was examining his hands/forearms or something. I didn't notice it
The biggest book departure, I think, is that Jon knows that Bran is alive now. Easily remedied and put back on track if Cold Hands rescues Bran before Jon gets there and they take off. Jon then will assume Bran's dead and everything is lined back up for the Stannis stuff later.
Of course there's a chance of that, but there's no real reason to think it won't. The timing of character introductions has been altered before on the show. Maybe another character takes his place to escort Bran and Co. For all we know Mormont might be coldhands. We just need Jon to think Bran is dead, and that shouldn't to be hard to pull off.
There is also a fairly persistent theory that Coldhands is the Night's King. Of course HBO may have just inadvertently laid waste to that theory...
Except that, at the very least, Jon knows Bran was alive, so he knows that things didn't go down at Winterfell as reported, opening the possibility that Rickon is still running around as well, which further alters the dynamic with Stannis.
Seemed really forced too, three cut scenes designed to point out the killer after all the speculation. Almost felt like they read the boards and just wanted to clear that up for everyone.
Here is a rundown of what was different between the books and this episode.
13th commander of the Night's Watch. Fell in love with a woman white walker. Had sex with her which basically took his soul and turned him into an "Other". No one knows what family he used to belong to (ie- Stark, Bolton, etc..).
To be fair, Brah....I don't think that the show took the liberties with the White Walker and the baby without GMM's blessing....so you'll prollly be seeing it again in 15 years when the next book is out.
The only thing troubling people is that it wasn't in the book at all, like most of this past episode.
The books have all POV chapters, the only way that would be in there is if someone seen it. Stuff like that has happened a lot since the show started
Yes, but none of it happened at all in the book. The group that mutinied... they're never heard from again. Theoretically they could've stayed put and drank from Mormont's skull and gave his son away to the White Walkers. But they certainly didn't capture Bran, or have Ghost locked up, or stab Hodor, and Jon Snow certainly never led a ranging against them with a group including a spy from Bolton's group.The books have all POV chapters, the only way that would be in there is if someone seen it. Stuff like that has happened a lot since the show started
The walker scenes were like bonus footage to me
I'm not quite to loathing, but the show is definitely starting to lose me. It's not the departures from the books in and of themselves, it's that the last few episodes really haven't gone anywhere with them. Also I agree that the consistent depiction of rape/torture is getting a little played out.
also did they have some kind of deal with Craster? We will leave you alone, just keep giving us the boys (and why only boys?)
There are 5 books that take place over the course of about 18 months, right? You can't really have a show that does not get bogged down every once in a while. You also have created so many roles, that you have to have something for these guys to be doing while they are on the payroll.
That episode was far from great. I don't think it even reached good overall. They can't all be great episodes.
Phourced.
I assure you I had nothing to do with writing those scenes.Yep. It's almost like they're written by a fat, ugly guy that's been lucky to ever have sex.as much as I love these books, his sex scenes are horrible.For real."and the wetness of blood and seed where they were joined"
I mean, ####, how do you all read this.
