Marauder
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Tau837
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Fumbles would either be sacks or rushing attempts.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He was QB11 in my SF league where I rostered him last year, and he has several new weapons. Williams is back, they drafted a WR, and Hampton could be a very decent dump-off option. Plus Ladd in his 2nd season could take another step. And they added Conklin & a solid rookie TE prospect - that’s a lot of help.
And Herbert chips in with the occasional rush & RuTD.
I’m pretty optimistic that with the improved OL + new weapons, Herbert will pretty easily be a top 10 QB.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
This is a great point as well. QJ has been pretty bad, and overall the team struggled with drops. Some were drive-killers.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Michigan sign-stealing penalties: Jim Harbaugh 10-year show-cause, hefty fines among NCAA punishments
Sherrone Moore also faces additional suspension with the ruling by the Committee on Infractions (COI) incoming
www.cbssports.com
-Should Harbaugh step down as Head Coach of the Chargers?
-Should the NFL suspend him for this? They are going to suspend Rice, is Harbaugh's reckless lifestyle and choices as head coach not a cause for a. moral suspension?
Goodell inflicts this moral compass on most players especially when he has to slam down the gavel
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Doubt the NFL touches thisMichigan sign-stealing penalties: Jim Harbaugh 10-year show-cause, hefty fines among NCAA punishments
Sherrone Moore also faces additional suspension with the ruling by the Committee on Infractions (COI) incoming
-Should Harbaugh step down as Head Coach of the Chargers?
-Should the NFL suspend him for this? They are going to suspend Ray Rice, is Harbaugh's reckless lifestyle and choices as head coach not a cause for a. moral suspension?
Goodell inflicts this moral compass on most players especially when he has to slam down the gavel
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
The thread title should read
HC, Jim Harbaugh, LAC- For Now...
Michigan $20M fine for cheating, stealing signals.
Cheating is like stealing, certainly sounds like he broke the law and many rules along the way
He should own up to it and do the right thing.
Difference between Harbaugh and Urban Meyer?
Both are proven cheaters or have a moral compass that points at 11:40 vs 12:00 sharp!
HC, Jim Harbaugh, LAC- For Now...
Michigan $20M fine for cheating, stealing signals.
Cheating is like stealing, certainly sounds like he broke the law and many rules along the way
He should own up to it and do the right thing.
Difference between Harbaugh and Urban Meyer?
Both are proven cheaters or have a moral compass that points at 11:40 vs 12:00 sharp!
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Another MOP hot take.
It didn’t happen in the NFL, and it doesn’t involve domestic violence or sexual assault, so the NFL won’t care.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
You're an 11:40 man I see
-He just got a 10 year show-cause penalty and to quote the NCAA "Harbaugh ran a program that was largely dismissive of rules, little if any emphasis on following the rules"
And he's a person in charge, why should he be allowed to control 53 men on a roster as acting Head Coach? He's proven he cannot be trusted.
Why should any player be suspended games and paychecks but not Jim Harbaugh?
What the heck is a show-cause, sounds like a slap on the wrist
Goodell should drop the hammer, show this type of blatant rule breaking and cheating is not welcome in the NFL
rockaction
Footballguy
You're an 11:40 man I see
-He just got a 10 year show-cause penalty and to quote the NCAA "Harbaugh ran a program that was largely dismissive of rules, little if any emphasis on following the rules"
And he's a person in charge, why should he be allowed to control 53 men on a roster as acting Head Coach? He's proven he cannot be trusted.
Why should any player be suspended games and paychecks but not Jim Harbaugh?
What the heck is a show-cause, sounds like a slap on the wrist
Goodell should drop the hammer, show this type of blatant rule breaking and cheating is not welcome in the NFL
MoP you’re really not with the reality of the situation and the history of how the NFL treats the NCAA.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Would the NFL?You're an 11:40 man I see
-He just got a 10 year show-cause penalty and to quote the NCAA "Harbaugh ran a program that was largely dismissive of rules, little if any emphasis on following the rules"
And he's a person in charge, why should he be allowed to control 53 men on a roster as acting Head Coach? He's proven he cannot be trusted.
Why should any player be suspended games and paychecks but not Jim Harbaugh?
What the heck is a show-cause, sounds like a slap on the wrist
Goodell should drop the hammer, show this type of blatant rule breaking and cheating is not welcome in the NFL
MoP you’re really not with the reality of the situation and the history of how the NFL treats the NCAA.
Should the NFL?
These are not the same thing, would you agree?
I'm saying the NFL should take action, will they is an entirely different exchange/conversation
Chaka
Footballguy
Ray Rice?Michigan sign-stealing penalties: Jim Harbaugh 10-year show-cause, hefty fines among NCAA punishments
Sherrone Moore also faces additional suspension with the ruling by the Committee on Infractions (COI) incoming
-Should Harbaugh step down as Head Coach of the Chargers?
-Should the NFL suspend him for this? They are going to suspend Ray Rice, is Harbaugh's reckless lifestyle and choices as head coach not a cause for a. moral suspension?
Goodell inflicts this moral compass on most players especially when he has to slam down the gavel
Chaka
Footballguy
NFL should do lots of things. They should mandate grass fields in every stadium. They should have paid a ton more in the concussion settlement. They should increase pensions for retired players. They should stop cheating to get Patrick Mahomes more Super Bowls than Tom Brady.Would the NFL?You're an 11:40 man I see
-He just got a 10 year show-cause penalty and to quote the NCAA "Harbaugh ran a program that was largely dismissive of rules, little if any emphasis on following the rules"
And he's a person in charge, why should he be allowed to control 53 men on a roster as acting Head Coach? He's proven he cannot be trusted.
Why should any player be suspended games and paychecks but not Jim Harbaugh?
What the heck is a show-cause, sounds like a slap on the wrist
Goodell should drop the hammer, show this type of blatant rule breaking and cheating is not welcome in the NFL
MoP you’re really not with the reality of the situation and the history of how the NFL treats the NCAA.
Should the NFL?
These are not the same thing, would you agree?
I'm saying the NFL should take action, will they is an entirely different exchange/conversation
They won't. And...?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Rashee, yeahRay Rice?Michigan sign-stealing penalties: Jim Harbaugh 10-year show-cause, hefty fines among NCAA punishments
Sherrone Moore also faces additional suspension with the ruling by the Committee on Infractions (COI) incoming
-Should Harbaugh step down as Head Coach of the Chargers?
-Should the NFL suspend him for this? They are going to suspend Ray Rice, is Harbaugh's reckless lifestyle and choices as head coach not a cause for a. moral suspension?
Goodell inflicts this moral compass on most players especially when he has to slam down the gavel
Chaka
Footballguy
That's a lot different than Ray Rice.Rashee, yeahRay Rice?Michigan sign-stealing penalties: Jim Harbaugh 10-year show-cause, hefty fines among NCAA punishments
Sherrone Moore also faces additional suspension with the ruling by the Committee on Infractions (COI) incoming
-Should Harbaugh step down as Head Coach of the Chargers?
-Should the NFL suspend him for this? They are going to suspend Ray Rice, is Harbaugh's reckless lifestyle and choices as head coach not a cause for a. moral suspension?
Goodell inflicts this moral compass on most players especially when he has to slam down the gavel
No one calls Rashee Rice, Ray Rice.
nightmare
Footballguy
I'm going to wade into this thread(maybe regret it) buttt, this seems like a call for "justice"
delivered to J Harbaugh. Since the NFL is his current employer that's who delivers it.
This is what you want/see this. What is the punishment? A fine? suspension? both?
My opinion? Nobody if the NFL even comments on this. No action against.
He cheated, walked away without getting caught and is not going to get punished.
That is how the game is played. Crying "foul" now isn't even PR damage to J Harbough
as he probably has no plans to go back to the college level.
delivered to J Harbaugh. Since the NFL is his current employer that's who delivers it.
This is what you want/see this. What is the punishment? A fine? suspension? both?
My opinion? Nobody if the NFL even comments on this. No action against.
He cheated, walked away without getting caught and is not going to get punished.
That is how the game is played. Crying "foul" now isn't even PR damage to J Harbough
as he probably has no plans to go back to the college level.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Extradition from California to a state of your choice for daily public floggings. Otherwise he will never learn.
massraider
Footballguy
You could have posted this as a response to YOUR previous post, and could be having a nice argument with yourself.
By saying the thread title should be changed to, "for now...." implies that YOU believe he's in danger of being fired, or otherwise WILL be disciplined. So the exchange/conversation was started by: YOU
To condescend to someone else when they push back against the notion that YOU present, like they cannot understand that YOU meant the exact opposite of what YOU previously posted, is laughable/bizarre/sad.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
You're an 11:40 man I see
-He just got a 10 year show-cause penalty and to quote the NCAA "Harbaugh ran a program that was largely dismissive of rules, little if any emphasis on following the rules"
And he's a person in charge, why should he be allowed to control 53 men on a roster as acting Head Coach? He's proven he cannot be trusted.
Why should any player be suspended games and paychecks but not Jim Harbaugh?
What the heck is a show-cause, sounds like a slap on the wrist
Goodell should drop the hammer, show this type of blatant rule breaking and cheating is not welcome in the NFL
MoP you’re really not with the reality of the situation and the history of how the NFL treats the NCAA.
The NFL gave Jim Tressel a 6 game suspension after he signed to be a coach with the Colts after the Buckeyes were forced to get rid of him and the NCAA gave him a show cause penalty because some players traded autographs for discounted tattoos.
So there’s certainly history of the NFL suspending coaches for NCAA violations.
Tau837
Footballguy
Why would anyone care about what Urban Meyer thinks? Seriously.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Pete “why would I ever leave the best job in the world at USC? Ohai Seahawks!” Carroll should be able to answer that question for you.Michigan sign-stealing penalties: Jim Harbaugh 10-year show-cause, hefty fines among NCAA punishments
Sherrone Moore also faces additional suspension with the ruling by the Committee on Infractions (COI) incoming
-Should Harbaugh step down as Head Coach of the Chargers?
-Should the NFL suspend him for this? They are going to suspend Rice, is Harbaugh's reckless lifestyle and choices as head coach not a cause for a. moral suspension?
Goodell inflicts this moral compass on most players especially when he has to slam down the gavel
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I would support this, if only for the lols.
Tau837
Footballguy
You're an 11:40 man I see
-He just got a 10 year show-cause penalty and to quote the NCAA "Harbaugh ran a program that was largely dismissive of rules, little if any emphasis on following the rules"
And he's a person in charge, why should he be allowed to control 53 men on a roster as acting Head Coach? He's proven he cannot be trusted.
Why should any player be suspended games and paychecks but not Jim Harbaugh?
What the heck is a show-cause, sounds like a slap on the wrist
Goodell should drop the hammer, show this type of blatant rule breaking and cheating is not welcome in the NFL
MoP you’re really not with the reality of the situation and the history of how the NFL treats the NCAA.
The NFL gave Jim Tressel a 6 game suspension after he signed to be a coach with the Colts after the Buckeyes were forced to get rid of him and the NCAA gave him a show cause penalty because some players traded autographs for discounted tattoos.
So there’s certainly history of the NFL suspending coaches for NCAA violations.
It was actually the Colts that gave Tressel the suspension, not the NFL, though Goodell endorsed it. Tressel also had not taken a job as a NFL head coach, but rather was hired to work in their replay room. There was no impact whatsoever to the Colts from that suspension. That obviously would not be the case with Harbaugh and the Chargers.
More importantly, it was an unnecessary overreach by the Colts and the NFL and also arguably inconsistent with previous situations.
Carroll and Jimmy Johnson both left programs that were hit with NCAA sanctions to become head coaches, although I don't believe they received show cause penalties or suspensions, possibly because they left before penalties were announced. The NFL didn't suspend either.
Chip Kelly left Oregon just before sanctions to become the Eagles head coach, and he was penalized by the NCAA, but the NFL didn't suspend him.
There may be others I'm not remembering.
rockaction
Footballguy
You're an 11:40 man I see
-He just got a 10 year show-cause penalty and to quote the NCAA "Harbaugh ran a program that was largely dismissive of rules, little if any emphasis on following the rules"
And he's a person in charge, why should he be allowed to control 53 men on a roster as acting Head Coach? He's proven he cannot be trusted.
Why should any player be suspended games and paychecks but not Jim Harbaugh?
What the heck is a show-cause, sounds like a slap on the wrist
Goodell should drop the hammer, show this type of blatant rule breaking and cheating is not welcome in the NFL
MoP you’re really not with the reality of the situation and the history of how the NFL treats the NCAA.
The NFL gave Jim Tressel a 6 game suspension after he signed to be a coach with the Colts after the Buckeyes were forced to get rid of him and the NCAA gave him a show cause penalty because some players traded autographs for discounted tattoos.
So there’s certainly history of the NFL suspending coaches for NCAA violations.
It’s certainly in the spirit but not on point. Tressel’s decision had been handed down when he tried to jump. Harbaugh’s would have to be retroactive in some way and would disturb his continued employment not his future employment. That’s a distinction that to me and others would be huge though some would say it’s a distinction without a difference.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I feel like Harbaugh knew this was going to likely be the outcome or some type of big punishment by the NCAA so he jumped ship a year ahead just weeks after winning the Nat Title
The NFL is all about punishing folks off the field, the players at any rate. Mixon was suspended when he entered the NFL to my knowledge
I thought it would generate some discussion, Harbaugh looks like a rule bender at best, most fans probably want a little of that in their NFL coach, that seems to be the vibe in here
The NFL is all about punishing folks off the field, the players at any rate. Mixon was suspended when he entered the NFL to my knowledge
I thought it would generate some discussion, Harbaugh looks like a rule bender at best, most fans probably want a little of that in their NFL coach, that seems to be the vibe in here
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I forgot Houston crushed them 32-12 last year in the Playoffs
