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I don't think you get what I'm trying to say. AOC is talking about a commission on facts - but she didn't state any facts. She stated gross misrepresentation and feelings.
Who do you believe to be the most divisive president was in the US was over the last 40 year?
Isn't she stating her first-hand observation based on having personally been there?
Trump had the most division because Democrats hated him with more passion than republicans hated Bill Clinton - but Trump never tried hard to play nice. In that he was a massive disappointment for me
I don't know if it is a misrepresentation, neither do you. That's what needs to be looked into.
Trump states his first hand observations - what's wrong with that ?
Thinking the election was rigged is an extremist point of view, no?You are an extremist because you post in a forum where the majority are extreme Left and you don’t fall in line, that’s an east one.
explain please
"I'm not an extremist, but I think the election was rigged" indicates a lack of self-awareness.
do you not remember everyone who said the 2016 was rigged aka Russia aka fraud etc? one example
For now. But once you get rid of StealthyCat then GoBirds becomes the new extremist, and you’ll set your sights on him. I don’t trust it to stop.
so everyone who said it was Russia & Trump winning the 2016 election, we can call all those people extremeists ?
It was determined by our IC that Russia had an active program in place to influence our election. This conclusion was reached by Republican lead committees in the Senate.
Again, I was just using you as the example since Tim labeled you as such. I do not condone the “defeat” and “get rid of” mindset. I hope that’s clear.
This is liking asking how did Alabama score 52 points in the championship game. It had never been done before! I’m looking through the playoff championship games, 45 was the most ever before Monday.
I don't understand what you're asking.
Hard to say. They were chanting to hang Pence and several people had zip tie handcuffs so were obviously looking to at least take hostages. The true motivations of the people who stormed the capitol, killed a police officer, and were actively hunting for politicians, all fueled by demonstrably false and dangerous allegations by the President, are impossible to know but almost certainly extreme.
I kind of think of your fear of democrats here is pretty much the same as your fear of spiders. Yes the agenda will change with Biden occupying the bully pulpit. Yes democrats will offer up different solutions to the problems of the day then republicans. But democrats are not like republicans when it comes to "hammer through policies" because their just too big of a tent. Too diverse. Will things be left of what you would prefer - sure. But absent some additional national disaster there isn't going to be a New Green Deal no matter how much their should be. There isn't going to be any of the major components of the NGD such as Medicare for All or UBI or whatever shorthand there is for the climate stuff. I seriously doubt that the balance of the court could change all that much beyond Roberts starting to be called a liberal justice.
Again, you are conflating things. That Russia interfered in the 2016 election is not disputed. By anyone. But no one is alleging it was rigged or that votes were stolen or that there was fraud. In 2016 Russia operatives orchestrated a massive disinformation campaign that influenced how voters voted. that is the allegation. Not that they changed votes.
I think I'd like to see the redacted material before we close the door on Russia/Trump.
how many years were we all told Trump and Russia were together? How many still believe that ? I bet the % is still high here that believe it - and that was always the problem, not a foreign country manipulating - it was Trump being involved (you forgot to add that)
It's bizarre to see people continue to misrepresent Russia's interference while simultaneously claiming that it didn't work.
Actually, it makes perfect sense. Nothing much was done to mitigate the problem, so we continue to experience the effects (I think some of the social media platforms have tried to self police, but I don't know how effective that's been). Maybe that'll change now.
This article was written during the period of time when the public and media had access only to AG Barr’s misleading summary and not the actual Mueller report.
Unrelated to your debate, but I think this is really the crux of the issue our country faces.
It also ignores the simple fact that Biden performed better than Hillary in the counties that Trump won. Those votes count, too.
That’s the common narrative. Not actually sure it’s true.
Yeah Kornacki has drilled into that a lot - Biden closed the gap big time in the reddest of reds.
WWCD
you are correct - updated counties have Biden winning only 5 more than Hillary and 16 million more votes
