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[Keys Myaths]

A loss to the Patriots in 2006 would start the Colts on the same path as the Red Sox of the 20th century.

Oh dear Lord.

 

[jwvdcw]

The Patriots are unreal. However, if they lose Brady, then they are a below-average team. If Flutie played last night, they would have lost. Brady is unbelievable... The best in the game.

Agreed completely. Remember they were 0-2 when he took over and led them to their first SB.

 

[3C's]

Third, everyone thought Aaron Bailey caught that Hail Mary pass at the end. I know I did.

You and everyone must be blind then since Bailey did not catch that ball. There is no doubt about it. That was not a catch.

I didn't say he caught it, I said I thought he caught it. I never said anything about it being a bad call.

The fact of the matter is that the Colts are soft. They run a finesse passing game that does not hold up well against physical teams. That is why the Patriots beat them year after year.

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[bostonfred]

A loss to the Patriots in 2006 would start the Colts on the same path as the Red Sox of the 20th century.

Oh dear Lord.

He's laying it on a little thick. If either the Pats or Steelers beat the Colts next week, though, it would be devastating to the Colts' confidence. Imagine having a near-perfect season, getting home field advantage, and still losing in their first game. You've got to be thinking, what more can we possibly do?

 

[Thumper]

A loss to the Patriots in 2006 would start the Colts on the same path as the Red Sox of the 20th century.

Oh dear Lord.

He's laying it on a little thick. If either the Pats or Steelers beat the Colts next week, though, it would be devastating to the Colts' confidence. Imagine having a near-perfect season, getting home field advantage, and still losing in their first game. You've got to be thinking, what more can we possibly do?

Who cares if they go 16-0 and lose in the playoffs? The goal is to win the Superbowl. Which the Patriots have done three of the last four years.PS: Pittsburg also has no chance of beating a healthy Patriots team.

 

[FairWarning]

Patroits will get their collective asses kicked in the Dome, if they get by Denver. I hear Denver isn't bad either.

 

[Keys Myaths]

A loss to the Patriots in 2006 would start the Colts on the same path as the Red Sox of the 20th century.

Oh dear Lord.

He's laying it on a little thick. If either the Pats or Steelers beat the Colts next week, though, it would be devastating to the Colts' confidence. Imagine having a near-perfect season, getting home field advantage, and still losing in their first game. You've got to be thinking, what more can we possibly do?

Who cares if they go 16-0 and lose in the playoffs? The goal is to win the Superbowl. Which the Patriots have done three of the last four years.PS: Pittsburg also has no chance of beating a healthy Patriots team.

Who's Pittsburg?Seriously, though...they DIDN'T go 16-0, they HAVEN'T lost to the Patriots...

You have serious issues.

Serious ones. I was going to root for NE in this game, but now, it's all about the Colts.

 

[djcolts]

A loss to the Patriots in 2006 would start the Colts on the same path as the Red Sox of the 20th century.

Oh dear Lord.

He's laying it on a little thick. If either the Pats or Steelers beat the Colts next week, though, it would be devastating to the Colts' confidence. Imagine having a near-perfect season, getting home field advantage, and still losing in their first game. You've got to be thinking, what more can we possibly do?

Who cares if they go 16-0 and lose in the playoffs? The goal is to win the Superbowl. Which the Patriots have done three of the last four years.PS: Pittsburg also has no chance of beating a healthy Patriots team.

Who's Pittsburg?Seriously, though...they DIDN'T go 16-0, they HAVEN'T lost to the Patriots...

You have serious issues.

Serious ones. I was going to root for NE in this game, but now, it's all about the Colts.

Don't let one fan determine who you root for. If you want to root for NE, then go ahead - it's OK.

 

[thejag]

As a Pats fan, these threads must be stopped! We beat a team that won 12 games but played a fairly soft schedule. Yeah, yeah you can only beat who they tell you to play, but we didn't beat 6 of them this season. Do the Pats look good right now? Compared to earlier this season, of course. Do they look as good as last year's team? C'mon now, there is a BIG difference between allowing 3 points to the '05 Jags and allowing 3 points to the '04 Colts. As a fan, I will keep cheering. And hoping that all the other Pats fans will take a page out of the team's playbook and win with class.

 

[Serenity Now]

I'm telling you, it's

 

[DoctorDetroit]

As a Pats fan, these threads must be stopped!

We beat a team that won 12 games but played a fairly soft schedule. Yeah, yeah you can only beat who they tell you to play, but we didn't beat 6 of them this season. Do the Pats look good right now? Compared to earlier this season, of course. Do they look as good as last year's team? C'mon now, there is a BIG difference between allowing 3 points to the '05 Jags and allowing 3 points to the '04 Colts.

As a fan, I will keep cheering. And hoping that all the other Pats fans will take a page out of the team's playbook and win with class.

Not a Pats fan but this applies to a lot of fans. Plus this brings in third party fans who just get irritated and think all Patriot fans or whomever act this way. Winning three out of four however makes it more palatable than other supporters talking trash.

 

[3C's]

Hey, the Pats have Diet Pepsi Machine. They can't be stopped!

 

[GregR_2]

I'm telling you, it's

Probably. And whether he's fishing or being sincere, people's opinion of him is about the same.

 

[thesurfshop19]

Can we stop with the "no one can be a healthy Patriots team" stuff?

Why qualify it? Is it so that any loss (despite having the best player in the game IMO, Brady) is not legitimate and can be explained away?

If the Patriots lose in the playoffs this year, was it the "real", "healthy" Patriots?

 

[JohnnyU]

  Third, everyone thought Aaron Bailey caught that Hail Mary pass at the end.  I know I did. 

You and everyone must be blind then since Bailey did not catch that ball. There is no doubt about it. That was not a catch.

I didn't say he caught it, I said I thought he caught it. I never said anything about it being a bad call.

The fact of the matter is that the Colts are soft. They run a finesse passing game that does not hold up well against physical teams. That is why the Patriots beat them year after year.Why is everyone putting the Colts (who lose year after year to the Patriots) on a pedestal while still doubting the three time Superbowl champions?

What have the Colts ever done to deserve such respect? They put up spectacular fantasy numbers (perhaps this is why so many people consider them a great team) but have yet to win a big game.

Who do you think will feel the pressure more the Pat's or the Colts? The Patriots have nothing to lose. If they lose they say Oh well,can't win them all. If the Colts lose this could shatter the franchise. They will be the Red Sox (well until 2004) of the last 86 years.

Infact it took the Red Sox 86 years to overcome the curse of the Bambino. A loss to the Patriots in 2006 would start the Colts on the same path as the Red Sox of the 20th century. The curse of Bill Belichick will haunt them for years to come.

The now healthy Patriots will not lose to the Colts.

Why did you quote what I was saying about the 1995 AFC Championship game. That was Jim Harbaugh and Co, LOL.

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

As a Pats fan, these threads must be stopped!

We beat a team that won 12 games but played a fairly soft schedule. Yeah, yeah you can only beat who they tell you to play, but we didn't beat 6 of them this season. Do the Pats look good right now? Compared to earlier this season, of course. Do they look as good as last year's team? C'mon now, there is a BIG difference between allowing 3 points to the '05 Jags and allowing 3 points to the '04 Colts.

As a fan, I will keep cheering. And hoping that all the other Pats fans will take a page out of the team's playbook and win with class.

I agree Pats have shown they have a good chance and that is about it. Both Indy and Den will be the favorites at home and for good reason. In fact all 4 AFC finalists are pretty darn close if u ask me. Indy is correctly at least a slight favorite over all since they are indoors at home with that great passing game. But it wouldn't shock me to see Pitt beat them; in fact I am counting on it

I am expecting 2 outstanding AFC games next week

 

[Cookiemonster]

They need to worry about Denver 1st, 'cause Pitt will get the chance to knock off the rusty Colts. Its about time the Steelers get to win an AFC title game (now that it won't be in Pitt).

... patting myself on the back.

 

[purestrength]

Third, everyone thought Aaron Bailey caught that Hail Mary pass at the end. I know I did.

You and everyone must be blind then since Bailey did not catch that ball. There is no doubt about it. That was not a catch.

I didn't say he caught it, I said I thought he caught it. I never said anything about it being a bad call.

The fact of the matter is that the Colts are soft. They run a finesse passing game that does not hold up well against physical teams. That is why the Patriots beat them year after year.

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Hey, I clicked on that link and it showed the Colts beat the Patriots 40-21 on Nov. 7 in Foxboro with Peyton Manning throwing for 321 yards and three touchdowns.Can that be right since the Colts supposedly lose to the Patriots "year after year"?

 

[SaosiN]

Once the Steelers beat Indy I don't want them going to New England at all.. Go Denver

 

[bostonfred]

Can we stop with the "no one can be a healthy Patriots team" stuff?

Why qualify it? Is it so that any loss (despite having the best player in the game IMO, Brady) is not legitimate and can be explained away?

If the Patriots lose in the playoffs this year, was it the "real", "healthy" Patriots?

Denver and Indy have both beaten the Patriots this year, but while the defense was still reeling from the injuries. They've since gotten healthy, and the team has been performing better. It's disingenuous to say that the Pats team that Indy and Denver beat is not the same one that Denver is about to face in the playoffs. On the other hand, I am well aware that Denver has had New England's number in the past. I'm not writing off this game by any means. The Broncos are a very good team, and their fans have every right to expect that their team will do better than one and done in the playoffs.

 

[GregR_2]

Can we stop with the "no one can be a healthy Patriots team" stuff?

Why qualify it? Is it so that any loss (despite having the best player in the game IMO, Brady) is not legitimate and can be explained away?

If the Patriots lose in the playoffs this year, was it the "real", "healthy" Patriots?

Denver and Indy have both beaten the Patriots this year, but while the defense was still reeling from the injuries. They've since gotten healthy, and the team has been performing better. It's disingenuous to say that the Pats team that Indy and Denver beat is not the same one that Denver is about to face in the playoffs. On the other hand, I am well aware that Denver has had New England's number in the past. I'm not writing off this game by any means. The Broncos are a very good team, and their fans have every right to expect that their team will do better than one and done in the playoffs.

Or in other words, Tom Brady didn't single-handedly carry a broke-down team into the playoffs?

 

[Mr.Happy]

I want to be scared of Denver. I really do.But all I keep thinking about is Jake Plummer. And not just any Jake Plummer, Jake Plummer for the second time in a season.The Pats have one of the best run defenses in the league. With that said, one team had the wise idea of trying to make Jake Plummer beat them, not the rushing attack, and Plummer flattened some team.I think the Patriots will be doing a lot of route jumping this Saturday vs. the Broncos.

 

[bostonfred]

Can we stop with the "no one can be a healthy Patriots team" stuff?

Why qualify it?  Is it so that any loss (despite having the best player in the game IMO, Brady) is not legitimate and can be explained away?

If the Patriots lose in the playoffs this year, was it the "real", "healthy" Patriots?

Denver and Indy have both beaten the Patriots this year, but while the defense was still reeling from the injuries. They've since gotten healthy, and the team has been performing better. It's disingenuous to say that the Pats team that Indy and Denver beat is not the same one that Denver is about to face in the playoffs. On the other hand, I am well aware that Denver has had New England's number in the past. I'm not writing off this game by any means. The Broncos are a very good team, and their fans have every right to expect that their team will do better than one and done in the playoffs.

Or in other words, Tom Brady didn't single-handedly carry a broke-down team into the playoffs?

Nobody said he did. However, the Patriots won the division by one game. The Patriots went 4-4 while the defense was decimated, and went 6-1 after that. Those things don't happen unless Brady carries the team. It's really not that complicated, Greg.

 

[GregR_2]

Can we stop with the "no one can be a healthy Patriots team" stuff?

Why qualify it? Is it so that any loss (despite having the best player in the game IMO, Brady) is not legitimate and can be explained away?

If the Patriots lose in the playoffs this year, was it the "real", "healthy" Patriots?

Denver and Indy have both beaten the Patriots this year, but while the defense was still reeling from the injuries. They've since gotten healthy, and the team has been performing better. It's disingenuous to say that the Pats team that Indy and Denver beat is not the same one that Denver is about to face in the playoffs. On the other hand, I am well aware that Denver has had New England's number in the past. I'm not writing off this game by any means. The Broncos are a very good team, and their fans have every right to expect that their team will do better than one and done in the playoffs.

Or in other words, Tom Brady didn't single-handedly carry a broke-down team into the playoffs?

Nobody said he did. However, the Patriots won the division by one game. The Patriots went 4-4 while the defense was decimated, and went 6-1 after that. Those things don't happen unless Brady carries the team. It's really not that complicated, Greg.

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I can't believe anyone is seriously saying Manning's name here. The guy who got the rushing record and the guy who led the league in passing while leading his broken down team into the playoffs should be ahead of the guy...

Emphasis on the contention the Patriots were a broken down team, as I mentioned in that thread.

 

[bostonfred]

Can we stop with the "no one can be a healthy Patriots team" stuff?

Why qualify it?  Is it so that any loss (despite having the best player in the game IMO, Brady) is not legitimate and can be explained away?

If the Patriots lose in the playoffs this year, was it the "real", "healthy" Patriots?

Denver and Indy have both beaten the Patriots this year, but while the defense was still reeling from the injuries. They've since gotten healthy, and the team has been performing better. It's disingenuous to say that the Pats team that Indy and Denver beat is not the same one that Denver is about to face in the playoffs. On the other hand, I am well aware that Denver has had New England's number in the past. I'm not writing off this game by any means. The Broncos are a very good team, and their fans have every right to expect that their team will do better than one and done in the playoffs.

Or in other words, Tom Brady didn't single-handedly carry a broke-down team into the playoffs?

Nobody said he did. However, the Patriots won the division by one game. The Patriots went 4-4 while the defense was decimated, and went 6-1 after that. Those things don't happen unless Brady carries the team. It's really not that complicated, Greg.

Here...

I can't believe anyone is seriously saying Manning's name here.  The guy who got the rushing record and the guy who led the league in passing while leading his broken down team into the playoffs should be ahead of the guy...

Emphasis on the contention the Patriots were a broken down team, as I mentioned in that thread.

You're reaching. They WERE a broken down team. He DID lead them to a 4-4 record while they were getting back healthy. He DID lead them to a 6-1 record after that. He DID lead them to the playoffs.

If you still don't understand the post, I'd be happy to explain it.

 

[GregR_2]

I understood the point, and as I said there, you were really stretching things, both in your characterization of the Pats as broken down when they were one of the best teams in the league, including on defense, for half the season... and in continually only referring to passing yards when talking about Brady's QB season.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

You waited on week to early to make this post.

If they beat the Colts next week, then you can get puffy chested.

Until then, you're doing nothing but jinxing your beloved Pats.

You know it's bad when Grid is telling fans how to not act like a homer.

Especially when they don't even play the Colts next week. :X

 

[thesurfshop19]

Can we stop with the "no one can be a healthy Patriots team" stuff?

Why qualify it? Is it so that any loss (despite having the best player in the game IMO, Brady) is not legitimate and can be explained away?

If the Patriots lose in the playoffs this year, was it the "real", "healthy" Patriots?

Denver and Indy have both beaten the Patriots this year, but while the defense was still reeling from the injuries. They've since gotten healthy, and the team has been performing better. It's disingenuous to say that the Pats team that Indy and Denver beat is not the same one that Denver is about to face in the playoffs. On the other hand, I am well aware that Denver has had New England's number in the past. I'm not writing off this game by any means. The Broncos are a very good team, and their fans have every right to expect that their team will do better than one and done in the playoffs.

Not sure why you're quoting me here!I'm well-versed about the Patriots injuries and how they've affected the team -- no NFL analyst can talk about the team without bringing it up, so it's not exactly news. I 100% agree that the team Denver beat in October isn't the same team they are now.

My question is ... now, in the playoffs, if the Patriots lose do we automatically chalk it up to injuries (Harrison, etc.), or did the "real" Patriots lose?

 

[bostonfred]

I understood the point, and as I said there, you were really stretching things, both in your characterization of the Pats as broken down when they were one of the best teams in the league, including on defense, for half the season... and in continually only referring to passing yards when talking about Brady's QB season.

How are you even questioning this? The Pats were ridiculously broken down early, and right now they're three games away from their fourth Superbowl in five years because Brady kept them afloat. The defense was decimated, Dillon was hurt, then their backup running back, then they started their fullback, and he got hurt, then they started their third and fourth running backs, and that didn't work out, so for a stretch, they were starting their backup fullback at tailback, the offensive line was decimated, Givens was hurt, and Troy Brown had to play on defense again.

Yet they still went 4-4 against a brutal schedule where the Pats gave up an average of 27 points per game.

If this team wins their fourth Superbowl in five years - and right now, they've got to win three games, just like the rest of the teams in the playoffs - it will only be because Brady kept them afloat during that miserable stretch.

 

[[icon]]

As a Pats fan, these threads must be stopped!

We beat a team that won 12 games but played a fairly soft schedule. Yeah, yeah you can only beat who they tell you to play, but we didn't beat 6 of them this season. Do the Pats look good right now? Compared to earlier this season, of course. Do they look as good as last year's team? C'mon now, there is a BIG difference between allowing 3 points to the '05 Jags and allowing 3 points to the '04 Colts.

As a fan, I will keep cheering. And hoping that all the other Pats fans will take a page out of the team's playbook and win with class.

I HOPE this is a fishing trip, if not... give it up. Pats have to make it through Denver, then Indy, then likely Seattle or Chicago. They will be the 3 toughest games the pats have played all year....

 

[Sol D]

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As a Pats fan, these threads must be stopped!

We beat a team that won 12 games but played a fairly soft schedule. Yeah, yeah you can only beat who they tell you to play, but we didn't beat 6 of them this season. Do the Pats look good right now? Compared to earlier this season, of course. Do they look as good as last year's team? C'mon now, there is a BIG difference between allowing 3 points to the '05 Jags and allowing 3 points to the '04 Colts.

As a fan, I will keep cheering. And hoping that all the other Pats fans will take a page out of the team's playbook and win with class.

I HOPE this is a fishing trip, if not... give it up. Pats have to make it through Denver, then Indy, then likely Seattle or Chicago. They will be the 3 toughest games the pats have played all year....

Don't count Carolina out. If I'm an AFC team the Panthers are the last team of the 4 remaining NFC teams that I would want to play.Patriots vs Panthers again? Maybe it is not the most likely scenario but it is not a long shot either. I really do not see a true favorite amoung the remaining 8 teams. I agree Indy on turf indoors gives them a slight edge against any team, but they do have way more pressure then NE.

 

[David Yudkin]

,Jan 8 2006, 10:46 PM]

As a Pats fan, these threads must be stopped!

We beat a team that won 12 games but played a fairly soft schedule. Yeah, yeah you can only beat who they tell you to play, but we didn't beat 6 of them this season. Do the Pats look good right now? Compared to earlier this season, of course. Do they look as good as last year's team? C'mon now, there is a BIG difference between allowing 3 points to the '05 Jags and allowing 3 points to the '04 Colts.

As a fan, I will keep cheering. And hoping that all the other Pats fans will take a page out of the team's playbook and win with class.

I HOPE this is a fishing trip, if not... give it up. Pats have to make it through Denver, then Indy, then likely Seattle or Chicago. They will be the 3 toughest games the pats have played all year....

Don't count Carolina out. If I'm an AFC team the Panthers are the last team of the 4 remaining NFC teams that I would want to play.Patriots vs Panthers again? Maybe it is not the most likely scenario but it is not a long shot either. I really do not see a true favorite amoung the remaining 8 teams. I agree Indy on turf indoors gives them a slight edge against any team, but they do have way more pressure then NE.

If the Panthers make it that far and face N.E. again, the Pats could get 3 revenge games in a row--DEN, IND, CAR.

 

[Chase Stuart]

A loss to the Patriots in 2006 would start the Colts on the same path as the Red Sox of the 20th century.

Oh dear Lord.

He's laying it on a little thick. If either the Pats or Steelers beat the Colts next week, though, it would be devastating to the Colts' confidence. Imagine having a near-perfect season, getting home field advantage, and still losing in their first game. You've got to be thinking, what more can we possibly do?

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/den1996.htm

 

[Jersey]

I really think at this point the pats are Favored to get to the Bowl. The Colt game will be a classic, but right now I think the Pats will prevail..

 

[bostonfred]

A loss to the Patriots in 2006 would start the Colts on the same path as the Red Sox of the 20th century.

Oh dear Lord.

He's laying it on a little thick. If either the Pats or Steelers beat the Colts next week, though, it would be devastating to the Colts' confidence. Imagine having a near-perfect season, getting home field advantage, and still losing in their first game. You've got to be thinking, what more can we possibly do?

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/den1996.htm

That's close, but it's not like the 1995 Broncos had set the record for passing TDs before haiving an almost-undefeated season, then lost to Jacksonville for the third time in three years.

 

[Chase Stuart]

A loss to the Patriots in 2006 would start the Colts on the same path as the Red Sox of the 20th century.

Oh dear Lord.

He's laying it on a little thick. If either the Pats or Steelers beat the Colts next week, though, it would be devastating to the Colts' confidence. Imagine having a near-perfect season, getting home field advantage, and still losing in their first game. You've got to be thinking, what more can we possibly do?

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/den1996.htm

That's close, but it's not like the 1995 Broncos had set the record for passing TDs before haiving an almost-undefeated season, then lost to Jacksonville for the third time in three years.

I understand your point, but somehow I think they'll manage.I won't link to it, but there's a team you've heard of that had it's best team in years and lost one of the worst heartbreakers I've ever seen in 2003. They managed to do ok the next year.

 

[Thumper]

A loss to the Patriots in 2006 would start the Colts on the same path as the Red Sox of the 20th century.

Oh dear Lord.

He's laying it on a little thick. If either the Pats or Steelers beat the Colts next week, though, it would be devastating to the Colts' confidence. Imagine having a near-perfect season, getting home field advantage, and still losing in their first game. You've got to be thinking, what more can we possibly do?

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/den1996.htm

That's close, but it's not like the 1995 Broncos had set the record for passing TDs before haiving an almost-undefeated season, then lost to Jacksonville for the third time in three years.

I understand your point, but somehow I think they'll manage.I won't link to it, but there's a team you've heard of that had it's best team in years and lost one of the worst heartbreakers I've ever seen in 2003. They managed to do ok the next year.

I think the Broncos give the Pat's a tougher game than the Colts would. But I still think the Patriots win a close game.

 

[Kit Fisto]

While I'm not counting out the Broncos because they are a very, very good team... nobody beats the Pats twice in the same year. NOBODY. Belichick gets another shot at the Broncos, look out.Heard Brady this morning on WEEI... said he was breaking down Denver yesterday. How's that for not resting on your laurels?If that nasty front 7 of NE can contain Anderson and Bell, I can't see Plummer winning the game by himself. Patriots 27, Broncos 21.Steelers 31, Colts 28.Me back in my seat at Gillette to see the AFC Championship.Wishful thinking, I know...