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heavy wind/snow games...implications for PIT/CLE thurs (1 Viewer)
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Paul Brown
Footballguy
Rovers
Footballguy
Just another reason to not like Cleveland. Wind snow, and now having to bench Rothlisberger. I hate Cleveland. Want to make something of it?WTF does this have to do with wind/snow?
Dragon1952
Footballguy
Well, would you rather play in a calm rusty toilet bowl or a windy, rusty toilet bowl?WTF does this have to do with wind/snow?
Lord Lucan
Footballguy
Best examples of recent games that have taken place under windy/icy/snowy conditions here and here.
This was the first game I thought of... featuring the best FG I have ever seen in my life, including the NFL record or anything Vinatieri ever did in the snow...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRGD1_mknrI
This was the first game I thought of... featuring the best FG I have ever seen in my life, including the NFL record or anything Vinatieri ever did in the snow...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRGD1_mknrI
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
FYI
CrossEyed
Footballguy
Not a chance. The Steelers don't have a single DB that can catch a pass.we should do a mini-thread jack and predict stats for the game
I'll go with holmes 6-40 1 TD
wallace 3-18
ben 12-17 1 td 98 yards
quinn 5-18 0 td 2 int 74 yards
anyhow thanks for the heads up as it renders my picking up of wallace moot.
-QG
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
Well, the Browns don't have a WR that can catch one either, so...Not a chance. The Steelers don't have a single DB that can catch a pass.we should do a mini-thread jack and predict stats for the game
I'll go with holmes 6-40 1 TD
wallace 3-18
ben 12-17 1 td 98 yards
quinn 5-18 0 td 2 int 74 yards
anyhow thanks for the heads up as it renders my picking up of wallace moot.
-QG
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
LOL okay, they'll both be caught by D-linemen off of tipped throwsNot a chance. The Steelers don't have a single DB that can catch a pass.we should do a mini-thread jack and predict stats for the game
I'll go with holmes 6-40 1 TD
wallace 3-18
ben 12-17 1 td 98 yards
quinn 5-18 0 td 2 int 74 yards
anyhow thanks for the heads up as it renders my picking up of wallace moot.
-QG
-QG
beavers
Footballguy
I don't know, to make money? It's pretty awesome to sit on a comfortable couch and watch football in poopey conditions.Though it's not much fun from a fantasy perspective. (I have ben frothyburger and may have to bench him for garrard)
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Bingo. I think these are very solid calls. I wouldn't bet against you on this.we should do a mini-thread jack and predict stats for the gameI'll go with holmes 6-40 1 TDwallace 3-18ben 12-17 1 td 98 yardsquinn 5-18 0 td 2 int 74 yardsanyhow thanks for the heads up as it renders my picking up of wallace moot.-QG
Dragon1952
Footballguy
What is San Francisco.....chopped liver?Da Guru said:
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Not to mention 2 teams in Texas and one in AZ. IT may not always be balmy in those places, but there's minimal chance of blizzard conditions there.What is San Francisco.....chopped liver?Da Guru said:
Titans_fan
Footballguy
Unless it's Thanksgiving in Dallas...Lett it be, Leon!Not to mention 2 teams in Texas and one in AZ. IT may not always be balmy in those places, but there's minimal chance of blizzard conditions there.What is San Francisco.....chopped liver?Da Guru said:
I've got Ben/Holmes too. But I could start McNabb instead of Ben. And Witten or Jennings instead of Holmes. I think I may play it safe. Unless someone tells me the weather is bad for those games too.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
I'll take myBingo. I think these are very solid calls. I wouldn't bet against you on this.we should do a mini-thread jack and predict stats for the game
now before both teams promptly go out and throw for 300 yards -QG
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Heh, I always root for there to be MORE games like this - mainly cuz they are entertaining from my nice cozy couch. I will say though, that having attended a Bengals-49ers game in the 'nati back in '03 where there was light snow it added a lot to the effect and made it more fun (though the 3 inches of ice cold slush my feet soaked in for the whole game was far from pleasant).-QGDa Guru said:
Im doing the exact same. I think Young will do pretty good though.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Total toss-up for me. Have Miller in a PPR, and with Ward out and the CLE front defensive line ailing, I can see Miller having a great day catching dumps over the middle or short screens in the flat.
I also think that the threat of high winds is sometimes something that gets overhyped, and come gametime, those projected 30-40 mph winds are more like 15-20 mph.
In a must win game, i have Fred Davis lined up to go vs OAK. But my gut seems to think that Miller actually can benefit from both the sub-par conditions and the short pass game vs a hapless Browns team.
I also think that the threat of high winds is sometimes something that gets overhyped, and come gametime, those projected 30-40 mph winds are more like 15-20 mph.
In a must win game, i have Fred Davis lined up to go vs OAK. But my gut seems to think that Miller actually can benefit from both the sub-par conditions and the short pass game vs a hapless Browns team.
Young 8
Footballguy
mmmm
Here's some hope for Browns fans: Only four times has the low for the day of a Steelers game in Cleveland dropped below 25 degrees, and the Browns won each time:
* 14 degrees, 12/18/83, Browns win, 30-17
* 23 degrees, 12/12/54, Browns win, 42-7
* 24 degrees, 11/10/57, Browns win, 24-0
* 24 degrees, 11/20/55, Browns win, 41-14
Here's some hope for Browns fans: Only four times has the low for the day of a Steelers game in Cleveland dropped below 25 degrees, and the Browns won each time:
* 14 degrees, 12/18/83, Browns win, 30-17
* 23 degrees, 12/12/54, Browns win, 42-7
* 24 degrees, 11/10/57, Browns win, 24-0
* 24 degrees, 11/20/55, Browns win, 41-14
CaptainHook
Footballguy
i watched a couple jerome harrison clips and he looks GOOD.
Any browns fans care to make an educated guess regarding how many touches he'll see?
Any browns fans care to make an educated guess regarding how many touches he'll see?
djjosee
Footballguy
Make it three! VY over Ben and TJ over Holmes ... and I was SOOOO looking forward to this game for my first week playoffs!
Godsbrother
Footballguy
We had some extermely high winds yesterday in Pittsburgh but they have died down quite a bit this morning (still having gusts of 30 mph though). Since we're east of Cleveland I expect the winds have died down there as well and while the forecast still calls for winds of 25 mph I bet it won't be much of a factor in the game.The Steelers OC Bruce Arians is in love with the passing game and I doubt he'll be able to resist throwng the ball. One other thing: Ward did practice a bit yesterday and will be a GTD. I bet he sits out because of the short week and the cold weather but I just wanted to point out he has not been officially ruled out.
Keith1
Footballguy
I am debating between him and Ganther.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Winds in metro detroirt have been whipping badly for the past day and a half. clevelands to the east about 3 hours and I imgaine this game is going to have wind impact the kicking and passing games.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
i'd expect a 9-3 ball game.about 40 yards rushing for Cleveland, 100 yards passing..ints/fumbles galore with winds and possibly wet football(s).
cr8f
Footballguy
Game Forecast-30MPH and wind direction look very bad.
http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/nfl/...m=NFL_teamsched
http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/nfl/...m=NFL_teamsched
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The_Man
Footballguy
I liked this:
RalphMouth
Footballguy
http://www.weathernet5.com/video/21918009/index.html
Cleveland tv 5 forecast this a.m. says .... 18 degrees at kickoff/ partly cloudy/ wind chills 10 to minus 5 /
winds out of the west 15-25 MPH
damn- do I sit Holmes and play Houshmanzadeh in a dome against Houston ?
Cleveland tv 5 forecast this a.m. says .... 18 degrees at kickoff/ partly cloudy/ wind chills 10 to minus 5 /
winds out of the west 15-25 MPH
damn- do I sit Holmes and play Houshmanzadeh in a dome against Houston ?
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
Ditka is God
Footballguy
Personally, I love watching games played in conditions like this and IMO it makes this game a lot more compelling to watch. I know I'm of the minority but I'd love to see the Super Bowl played in weather like this - I think it adds another level of coaching strategy to the equation.
I am sitting Harrison, however, given the options I have. I do think Big Ben has a big enough arm to cut through the wind (at least on short to intermediate routes), and it wouldn't surprise me if he posted decent numbers particularly if he had Ward to go to over the middle. His WRs will have a bit of an advantage in this footing.
I am sitting Harrison, however, given the options I have. I do think Big Ben has a big enough arm to cut through the wind (at least on short to intermediate routes), and it wouldn't surprise me if he posted decent numbers particularly if he had Ward to go to over the middle. His WRs will have a bit of an advantage in this footing.
Me too. It's a PPR league so I am leaning toward Harrison. The wind gust info is settling down to 15-25 mph, and I am expecting lots of short passes with Harrison getting most of his points from the catch, not the yards or TDs.Ganther is an excellent match up against OAK, but he likely will platoon with Cartwright. Who gets the ball at the goal line is unknown, but I expect that Ganther will get more carries overall.I'm playing the upside of Harrison vs. the unknown of Ganther, how about you?
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Me too. I love games in weather.
Defending Champs
Footballguy
Throw me in this crowd, I LOVE watching football being played in the snow. Not sure if I'd like it in person though. I live in Atlanta, it is VERY uncommon for us to get this kind of weather, the last time was in 1993 when we had a true blizzard.Me too. I love games in weather.
cr8f
Footballguy
I did too.
cr8f
Footballguy
Snow isn't a big deal if it isn't real cold and windy. Chicago has had awful games where punts go up and actually go backwards. Cleveland is close to the lake too and this looks like an awful game with the wind coming from the side.This could be an awful game for passing and special teams.Throw me in this crowd, I LOVE watching football being played in the snow. Not sure if I'd like it in person though. I live in Atlanta, it is VERY uncommon for us to get this kind of weather, the last time was in 1993 when we had a true blizzard.Me too. I love games in weather.
Raleigh Engineers
Footballguy
winds 15-25 MPH aren't as bad as I heard before.
Angry Beavers
Footballguy
FIXED - it would appear that you have already started!I am at least "working" half a day before I started tailgating....
Angry Beavers
Footballguy
This is Cleveland. The weather changes often. Wait until evening to make your final decision.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I have been going to home Steelers games since the late 60s and been to a ton of cold games with snow. I love 'em! The worst games to attend are rain games when the temps are in the 40s and upper 30s.Throw me in this crowd, I LOVE watching football being played in the snow. Not sure if I'd like it in person though. I live in Atlanta, it is VERY uncommon for us to get this kind of weather, the last time was in 1993 when we had a true blizzard.Me too. I love games in weather.
Angry Beavers
Footballguy
Dec 10 Today
Occasional snow showers. Quite windy. High 26F. Winds WSW at 25 to 40 mph. Chance of snow 50%. Snowfall around one inch. Winds could occasionally gust over 50 mph.
Dec 10 Tonight
Windy conditions and snow showers. Low near 20F. Winds WSW at 25 to 35 mph. Chance of snow 50%.
This is from Weather.com for the zipcode of the stadium. Ya'll can look for yourself. Try 44114 - at least that is my office zip code right downtown and a 10 minute walk to the stadium from my office building door. (I think 44113 may be the actual zip code of the stadium, but I digress);
The "alot of snow" will likely be East and SouthEast of the city in the snowbelt. The real issue here will be WIND, not snow although I would expect a dusting in any event. There is a light snow right now, and you can see snow on some rooftops etc., but not enough to impact anything such as driving. I can't imagine the snow will have a large impact on this game but it could be a factor. As I said earlier, this is Cleveland and the weather really can change on a dime. Wait until evening before making any sit/start decisions if you can.
Occasional snow showers. Quite windy. High 26F. Winds WSW at 25 to 40 mph. Chance of snow 50%. Snowfall around one inch. Winds could occasionally gust over 50 mph.
Dec 10 Tonight
Windy conditions and snow showers. Low near 20F. Winds WSW at 25 to 35 mph. Chance of snow 50%.
This is from Weather.com for the zipcode of the stadium. Ya'll can look for yourself. Try 44114 - at least that is my office zip code right downtown and a 10 minute walk to the stadium from my office building door. (I think 44113 may be the actual zip code of the stadium, but I digress);
The "alot of snow" will likely be East and SouthEast of the city in the snowbelt. The real issue here will be WIND, not snow although I would expect a dusting in any event. There is a light snow right now, and you can see snow on some rooftops etc., but not enough to impact anything such as driving. I can't imagine the snow will have a large impact on this game but it could be a factor. As I said earlier, this is Cleveland and the weather really can change on a dime. Wait until evening before making any sit/start decisions if you can.
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
Accuweather forecast:
Thursday, Dec 10
High: 34°F RealFeel®: 12°F
Mostly cloudy, winds gusting past 40 mph and much colder with a couple of snow showers
Thursday Night
Low: 19°F RealFeel®: -8°F
Mostly cloudy with a flurry; cold with winds gusting past 40 mph
Thursday, Dec 10
High: 34°F RealFeel®: 12°F
Mostly cloudy, winds gusting past 40 mph and much colder with a couple of snow showers
Thursday Night
Low: 19°F RealFeel®: -8°F
Mostly cloudy with a flurry; cold with winds gusting past 40 mph
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Agreed GB. '94 AFC Champ, unseasonably warm...may have even been in the 50s. Ugh.I have been going to home Steelers games since the late 60s and been to a ton of cold games with snow. I love 'em! The worst games to attend are rain games when the temps are in the 40s and upper 30s.Throw me in this crowd, I LOVE watching football being played in the snow. Not sure if I'd like it in person though. I live in Atlanta, it is VERY uncommon for us to get this kind of weather, the last time was in 1993 when we had a true blizzard.Me too. I love games in weather.
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