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heavy wind/snow games...implications for PIT/CLE thurs (1 Viewer)

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UGLY forecast (35mph winds and snow) for thursday's PIT-CLE game. trying to ascertain exactly how this should impact the pass game and/or dependence on the run (on both sides of the ball). my gut feel is that obviously the PIT rushing attack gets an upgrade, but for those of us more desperate at the flex, could the weather mean lots of touches and an upgrade for JHarrison (and check downs from Quinn who likely won't be comfortable throwing downfield given the weather conditions) against a Polamalu-less steelers squad? and how much should we downgrade the PIT pass attack given the weather (35mph winds moreso than the snow)?

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/nfl/...m=NFL_teamsched

just curious if anyone has ever seen any sort of statistical analysis done around bad weather (heavy wind/snow) games, perhaps looking at standard deviations to the mean for home/away passing games (on average, home team passed for X fewer yds than their average that season, away team Y fewer yds) and home/away rushing games (on average, home team ran for X more yds than their average that season, away team Y more yds). it would be a really cool analysis but i wouldn't even know where to begin in terms of finding an appropriate set of precedent bad weather games. anyone ever see anything like this? any admins know of anything FBG has ever done like this in years past?

or even for a smaller sampling, over the last few years, anyone remember any specific games with similar weather conditions?

 
beaubohm said:
UGLY forecast (35mph winds and snow) for thursday's PIT-CLE game. trying to ascertain exactly how this should impact the pass game and/or dependence on the run (on both sides of the ball). my gut feel is that obviously the PIT rushing attack gets an upgrade, but for those of us more desperate at the flex, could the weather mean lots of touches and an upgrade for JHarrison (and check downs from Quinn who likely won't be comfortable throwing downfield given the weather conditions) against a Polamalu-less steelers squad? and how much should we downgrade the PIT pass attack given the weather (35mph winds moreso than the snow)?

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/nfl/...m=NFL_teamsched

just curious if anyone has ever seen any sort of statistical analysis done around bad weather (heavy wind/snow) games, perhaps looking at standard deviations to the mean for home/away passing games (on average, home team passed for X fewer yds than their average that season, away team Y fewer yds) and home/away rushing games (on average, home team ran for X more yds than their average that season, away team Y more yds). it would be a really cool analysis but i wouldn't even know where to begin in terms of finding an appropriate set of precedent bad weather games. anyone ever see anything like this? any admins know of anything FBG has ever done like this in years past?

or even for a smaller sampling, over the last few years, anyone remember any specific games with similar weather conditions?
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All I know is last years ARI at NE game in week 16 killed me in the super bowl. Similar weather.
 
Chase or Bloom or one of the other staffers had done a study that basically said that wind affected the passing game mroe than either rain or snow.

 
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Chase or Bloom or one of the other staffers had done a study that basically said that wind affected the passing game mroe than either rain or snow.
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If that is the case I hope a hurricane is coming to Cleveland tomorrow night because the Steeler's secondary stinks and needs all the help it can get.
 
as i see it, without trying to overthink this, the biggest concerns are:

1 - how does this impact the PIT pass game? how much do you downgrade big ben? and what about mike wallace? everyone is jumping aboard the wallace bandwagon this week b/c he most likely gets the start for hines ward given his bum hammy, but wallace is a speed/downfield receiving threat- i'd imagine that gets severely impacted in a game with 35mph winds and snow. tough to track the downfield pass when it's blowing all over the place.

2 - if mendenhall is healthy, of course you start him. but what about jerome harrison? does he get extra carries given the weather? clearly quinn won't be able to effectively throw downfield- he can't hit his targets in ideal conditions, how on earth is he expected to in 35mph wind? so does harrison get a healthy enough workload to merit starting him as a flex, even against the #1 rush D in the league? and given his ability to catch out of the backfield, is this one of those games where he leads the team in receptions and even if his run line looks like 20 for 57 yds, he tacks on 10 catches for another 50?

3 - of course everyone starts the PIT def. weather or not, you start PIT against CLE. but what about the CLE defense in the heavy wind/snow? passes blowing everywhere, tough to hang onto the ball, likely a low scoring game, PIT has looked shaky in recent wks... does the CLE defense make a sneaky play this week over say BUF @ kc, or HOU v sea?

any thoughts?

 
beaubohm said:
as i see it, without trying to overthink this, the biggest concerns are:1 - how does this impact the PIT pass game? how much do you downgrade big ben? and what about mike wallace? everyone is jumping aboard the wallace bandwagon this week b/c he most likely gets the start for hines ward given his bum hammy, but wallace is a speed/downfield receiving threat- i'd imagine that gets severely impacted in a game with 35mph winds and snow. tough to track the downfield pass when it's blowing all over the place.2 - if mendenhall is healthy, of course you start him. but what about jerome harrison? does he get extra carries given the weather? clearly quinn won't be able to effectively throw downfield- he can't hit his targets in ideal conditions, how on earth is he expected to in 35mph wind? so does harrison get a healthy enough workload to merit starting him as a flex, even against the #1 rush D in the league? and given his ability to catch out of the backfield, is this one of those games where he leads the team in receptions and even if his run line looks like 20 for 57 yds, he tacks on 10 catches for another 50?3 - of course everyone starts the PIT def. weather or not, you start PIT against CLE. but what about the CLE defense in the heavy wind/snow? passes blowing everywhere, tough to hang onto the ball, likely a low scoring game, PIT has looked shaky in recent wks... does the CLE defense make a sneaky play this week over say BUF @ kc, or HOU v sea?any thoughts?
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:goodposting: Lots of running game here. 30+ mph winds effectively negate any downfield passing. It's too risky. I wouldn't start any part of the PIT or CLE passing games (my projections will reflect this), but Mendenhall should be an ok start. Harrison, I'm not as sure about because the Steelers D will be angry and they'll pinning their ears back to stop the run. I like Beau's idea of Harrison getting a decent amount of catches to redeem his value in PPR leagues. In leagues where yardage and points allowed account for points in addition to turnovers/scores, the CLE D sounds like a good play. This one should be like the PIT-MIA MNF game that was 3-0 if this forecast holds up.
 
The weatherchannel.com is currently saying this:

Thursday, Dec. 10 Snow Showers / Overnight Low17°FPrecip60% Wind: From WSW at 31 mph Max. Humidity: 47% Windchill at 9:00 PM: 0 degrees
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Brrrrrrr! Glad this is road game and I don't have to sit out in the cold for this one.
 
Reporting that the strong gusts could occasionally be around 40 mph. Occasionally. I have a feeling that everything will be fine for this game as I am as inept enough to be a meteorologist as most in that field.

 
Godsbrother said:
The weatherchannel.com is currently saying this:

Thursday, Dec. 10 Snow Showers / Overnight Low17°FPrecip60% Wind: From WSW at 31 mph Max. Humidity: 47% Windchill at 9:00 PM: 0 degrees
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Brrrrrrr! Glad this is road game and I don't have to sit out in the cold for this one.
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The game isn't sold out so you can still go ...
 
I know I'm going to need to start Mendenhall in this game, but don't have a good feeling about it. With the weather conditions and Cleveland being up for this home game vs. a division rival, I'm guessing 2 fumbles minimum. He may get pulled for Willie in this game.

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If the winds truly will be 31 MPH, you might as well unload on the under because there's not going to be a lot of scoring. If will be extremely difficult to pass and kick. I would expect most of the scoring to come via turnovers. If you have Roethlisberger, Holmes, Heath Miller or Ward, you better look at other options. As for Cleveland, their offense is impotent under good conditions. I think their best weapon will be Cribbs on returns.

 
I have Holmes in a league.....sitting him this week no doubt.

 
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As a Pats fan, I seem to recall a similar doomsday forecast for the game versus the Titans - where Brady through for 6 TD's. Just tossing it out there...

 
TheBradyBunch said:
As a Pats fan, I seem to recall a similar doomsday forecast for the game versus the Titans - where Brady through for 6 TD's. Just tossing it out there...
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i know that was a heavy snow day, but was the wind an issue as well, or not really? i think the bigger issue here are the potential 30-40mph winds rather than the snow.
 
TheBradyBunch said:
As a Pats fan, I seem to recall a similar doomsday forecast for the game versus the Titans - where Brady through for 6 TD's. Just tossing it out there...
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Was it windy in that game? I remember the snow but it didn't seem like any 30+ MPH winds in that game as Moss caught a couple of long bombs.
 
I didn't see the Browns/Chargers game but in otehr Browns games that I have watched Quinn wasn't throwing downfield so I am not sure that strong winds are going to have a big impact on him.

As for the Steelers, Arians loves to have Ben throwing downfield so I would think it will have a greater impact on the Steelers offense.

I think Mendy and the Steelers defense should be good plays this week. The Browns defense could also be a decent plays -- not sure I would play anyone else.

 
Godsbrother said:
I didn't see the Browns/Chargers game but in otehr Browns games that I have watched Quinn wasn't throwing downfield so I am not sure that strong winds are going to have a big impact on him.As for the Steelers, Arians loves to have Ben throwing downfield so I would think it will have a greater impact on the Steelers offense.I think Mendy and the Steelers defense should be good plays this week. The Browns defense could also be a decent plays -- not sure I would play anyone else.
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In PPR, Harrison might be a good play.
 
There was a game a few years ago between the Packers and Bears at Soldier Field with 40 mph winds. Favre threw for 153 no td's and 2 ints. Orton threw for 104 with a td. Both backs went over 100 and scored a td. That game was a mess for both real and fantasy football. I have both big Ben and Mendenhall. I will be starting Mendenhall as I don't know if DWill will be able to go or not. I am sitting big Ben for McNabb.

 
Addai said:
beaubohm said:
UGLY forecast (35mph winds and snow) for thursday's PIT-CLE game. trying to ascertain exactly how this should impact the pass game and/or dependence on the run (on both sides of the ball). my gut feel is that obviously the PIT rushing attack gets an upgrade, but for those of us more desperate at the flex, could the weather mean lots of touches and an upgrade for JHarrison (and check downs from Quinn who likely won't be comfortable throwing downfield given the weather conditions) against a Polamalu-less steelers squad? and how much should we downgrade the PIT pass attack given the weather (35mph winds moreso than the snow)?

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/nfl/...m=NFL_teamsched

just curious if anyone has ever seen any sort of statistical analysis done around bad weather (heavy wind/snow) games, perhaps looking at standard deviations to the mean for home/away passing games (on average, home team passed for X fewer yds than their average that season, away team Y fewer yds) and home/away rushing games (on average, home team ran for X more yds than their average that season, away team Y more yds). it would be a really cool analysis but i wouldn't even know where to begin in terms of finding an appropriate set of precedent bad weather games. anyone ever see anything like this? any admins know of anything FBG has ever done like this in years past?

or even for a smaller sampling, over the last few years, anyone remember any specific games with similar weather conditions?
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All I know is last years ARI at NE game in week 16 killed me in the super bowl. Similar weather.
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Killed you? started Cassell and won big time.
 
joeski said:
TheBradyBunch said:
As a Pats fan, I seem to recall a similar doomsday forecast for the game versus the Titans - where Brady through for 6 TD's. Just tossing it out there...
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Was it windy in that game? I remember the snow but it didn't seem like any 30+ MPH winds in that game as Moss caught a couple of long bombs.
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Prior to the game it was really windy. I don't know how bad it was during the game though since I was inside, but I don't believe it was 30+ mph winds. BradyBunch is right that there was a "doomsday" forecast for that game as well.
 
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Statler & Waldorf said:
joeski said:
TheBradyBunch said:
As a Pats fan, I seem to recall a similar doomsday forecast for the game versus the Titans - where Brady through for 6 TD's. Just tossing it out there...
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Was it windy in that game? I remember the snow but it didn't seem like any 30+ MPH winds in that game as Moss caught a couple of long bombs.
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Prior to the game it was really windy. I don't know how bad it was during the game though since I was inside, but I don't believe it was 30+ mph winds. BradyBunch is right that there was a "doomsday" forecast for that game as well.
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I seem to remember the forecast calling for a lull in the bad weather during the game, and that forecast was accurate. I remember telling Brady owners not to panic in that one. This is a different situation, a good ole nasty winter storm at a stadium that is basically right on the water, one that has hosted some games made completely useless for fantasy in recent Decembers.
 
Alot of panic in this thread. Unless you are stacked at WR you can't sit Santonio Holmes with Ward likely out. Sure it may limit the 20+ yards throws downfield but Holmes will still be plenty involved.

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Addai said:
beaubohm said:
UGLY forecast (35mph winds and snow) for thursday's PIT-CLE game. trying to ascertain exactly how this should impact the pass game and/or dependence on the run (on both sides of the ball). my gut feel is that obviously the PIT rushing attack gets an upgrade, but for those of us more desperate at the flex, could the weather mean lots of touches and an upgrade for JHarrison (and check downs from Quinn who likely won't be comfortable throwing downfield given the weather conditions) against a Polamalu-less steelers squad? and how much should we downgrade the PIT pass attack given the weather (35mph winds moreso than the snow)?

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/nfl/...m=NFL_teamsched

just curious if anyone has ever seen any sort of statistical analysis done around bad weather (heavy wind/snow) games, perhaps looking at standard deviations to the mean for home/away passing games (on average, home team passed for X fewer yds than their average that season, away team Y fewer yds) and home/away rushing games (on average, home team ran for X more yds than their average that season, away team Y more yds). it would be a really cool analysis but i wouldn't even know where to begin in terms of finding an appropriate set of precedent bad weather games. anyone ever see anything like this? any admins know of anything FBG has ever done like this in years past?

or even for a smaller sampling, over the last few years, anyone remember any specific games with similar weather conditions?
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All I know is last years ARI at NE game in week 16 killed me in the super bowl. Similar weather.
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Killed you? started Cassell and won big time.
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Ya. I had Warner and Breaston.
 
so i'm in southern wisconsin and we just got 16" of snow in one dumping last night, and expected to get 6-8 more by midnight tonight. this is the storm thats heading in that direction. everything in the area is closed and traffic on the interstate is moving at about 5mph if that. without looking at the forcast in that area, i'm thinking theres a possibility that this game doesn't happen tomorrow night...

just something to keep in mind, and i could be completely off on this but if this game was in wisconsin tonight i would pretty much guarantee it wouldn't be happening. i dont know what the nfl procedure is with these weather situations, but its really not going to be pretty for any area in this storms path. i would definitely have a backup plan in place just in case.

 
joeski said:
I know it's a day away but this site shows winds of 25mph

http://www.wunderground.com/sports/NFL/hom...l?st=1260480000

Any Cleveland homers know what it's like in the stadium with high winds?
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You're looking at an ugly game of passing offense. The wind swirls from every direction and the 20-40 mph gusts will make throwing down field a huge gamble. As most would expect, you're going to see a heavy dose of Mendenhall. 130-150 yards isn't out of the question. If Ward's out, Miller may not be a bad option actually. Browns starting LBs are on IR also. Jerome Harrison is probably the Browns best FF option for the game.Best examples of recent games that have taken place under windy/icy/snowy conditions here and here. As of right now, the majority of the snow is supposed to go around Cleveland, however, it's also possible that lake effect snow kicks in and you're looking at something like this.

Can't wait to sit in it. :banned:

 
JJP said:
If the winds truly will be 31 MPH, you might as well unload on the under because there's not going to be a lot of scoring. If will be extremely difficult to pass and kick. I would expect most of the scoring to come via turnovers. If you have Roethlisberger, Holmes, Heath Miller or Ward, you better look at other options. As for Cleveland, their offense is impotent under good conditions. I think their best weapon will be Cribbs on returns.
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The problem is, the O/U is already 34, that's pretty low as it stands.
 
Frenchy Fuqua said:
Alot of panic in this thread. Unless you are stacked at WR you can't sit Santonio Holmes with Ward likely out. Sure it may limit the 20+ yards throws downfield but Holmes will still be plenty involved.
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While I don't love Santonio this week, I think Miller will be a solid play. With Ward out and the weather limiting the deep routes, I think he'll be looking at 8-10 targets, including some red zone looks.
 
Sigmund Bloom said:
beaubohm said:
as i see it, without trying to overthink this, the biggest concerns are:1 - how does this impact the PIT pass game? how much do you downgrade big ben? and what about mike wallace? everyone is jumping aboard the wallace bandwagon this week b/c he most likely gets the start for hines ward given his bum hammy, but wallace is a speed/downfield receiving threat- i'd imagine that gets severely impacted in a game with 35mph winds and snow. tough to track the downfield pass when it's blowing all over the place.2 - if mendenhall is healthy, of course you start him. but what about jerome harrison? does he get extra carries given the weather? clearly quinn won't be able to effectively throw downfield- he can't hit his targets in ideal conditions, how on earth is he expected to in 35mph wind? so does harrison get a healthy enough workload to merit starting him as a flex, even against the #1 rush D in the league? and given his ability to catch out of the backfield, is this one of those games where he leads the team in receptions and even if his run line looks like 20 for 57 yds, he tacks on 10 catches for another 50?3 - of course everyone starts the PIT def. weather or not, you start PIT against CLE. but what about the CLE defense in the heavy wind/snow? passes blowing everywhere, tough to hang onto the ball, likely a low scoring game, PIT has looked shaky in recent wks... does the CLE defense make a sneaky play this week over say BUF @ kc, or HOU v sea?any thoughts?
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:shock: Lots of running game here. 30+ mph winds effectively negate any downfield passing. It's too risky. I wouldn't start any part of the PIT or CLE passing games (my projections will reflect this), but Mendenhall should be an ok start. Harrison, I'm not as sure about because the Steelers D will be angry and they'll pinning their ears back to stop the run. I like Beau's idea of Harrison getting a decent amount of catches to redeem his value in PPR leagues. In leagues where yardage and points allowed account for points in addition to turnovers/scores, the CLE D sounds like a good play. This one should be like the PIT-MIA MNF game that was 3-0 if this forecast holds up.
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So you don't think they were angry in any of the 4 previous losses (particularly last week against a similarly pathetic offense)? Anger doesn't mean so much when you don't have your best player patrolling the defensive backfield. The Steelers have been able to replace linebackers for years but clearly Troy is irreplaceable.Weather will limit passing games on both sides and opportunities for INTs and sacks will be reduced by limited opportunities and sloppy field conditions. It should be a good start in defensive yardage leagues but I am not so sure it will provide many big play opportunities.
 
Addai said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Addai said:
beaubohm said:
UGLY forecast (35mph winds and snow) for thursday's PIT-CLE game. trying to ascertain exactly how this should impact the pass game and/or dependence on the run (on both sides of the ball). my gut feel is that obviously the PIT rushing attack gets an upgrade, but for those of us more desperate at the flex, could the weather mean lots of touches and an upgrade for JHarrison (and check downs from Quinn who likely won't be comfortable throwing downfield given the weather conditions) against a Polamalu-less steelers squad? and how much should we downgrade the PIT pass attack given the weather (35mph winds moreso than the snow)?

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/nfl/...m=NFL_teamsched

just curious if anyone has ever seen any sort of statistical analysis done around bad weather (heavy wind/snow) games, perhaps looking at standard deviations to the mean for home/away passing games (on average, home team passed for X fewer yds than their average that season, away team Y fewer yds) and home/away rushing games (on average, home team ran for X more yds than their average that season, away team Y more yds). it would be a really cool analysis but i wouldn't even know where to begin in terms of finding an appropriate set of precedent bad weather games. anyone ever see anything like this? any admins know of anything FBG has ever done like this in years past?

or even for a smaller sampling, over the last few years, anyone remember any specific games with similar weather conditions?
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All I know is last years ARI at NE game in week 16 killed me in the super bowl. Similar weather.
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Killed you? started Cassell and won big time.
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Ya. I had Warner and Breaston.
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So the weather killed them? and not Cassell? seems odd. Same with Brady earlier in the year. the Titans didnt do much and the Pats passing game wasnt slowed at all
 
werdnoynek said:
so i'm in southern wisconsin and we just got 16" of snow in one dumping last night, and expected to get 6-8 more by midnight tonight. this is the storm thats heading in that direction. everything in the area is closed and traffic on the interstate is moving at about 5mph if that. without looking at the forcast in that area, i'm thinking theres a possibility that this game doesn't happen tomorrow night... just something to keep in mind, and i could be completely off on this but if this game was in wisconsin tonight i would pretty much guarantee it wouldn't be happening. i dont know what the nfl procedure is with these weather situations, but its really not going to be pretty for any area in this storms path. i would definitely have a backup plan in place just in case.
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just because it dropped 2 feet of snow on you doesn't mean everybody's getting that.wisconsin always gets the dumpings relative to other states.that ten/ne game wasn't windy, and field conditions weren't bad --- they play on fieldturf.
 
If there is wind and snow, I just don't see the Cle offense doing anything. They will not be able to throw and if you're running in these conditions you're going to go north and south, not east and west. For that reason, I'm not sure J. Harrison is a good play at all. He's more of a quick slasher. I wouldn't be surprised to see Mangini bring in Chris Jennings to pound it up the middle.

Mendenhall and the Steeler D are the only options I'd consider...if the weather is going to be as terrible as predicted.

KY

 
Frenchy Fuqua said:
Alot of panic in this thread. Unless you are stacked at WR you can't sit Santonio Holmes with Ward likely out. Sure it may limit the 20+ yards throws downfield but Holmes will still be plenty involved.
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Hope you're right. I gotta play Holmes or gamble on D. Jackson on Sunday night with no other options.
 
Yeah, I'm thinking I have to bench Big Ben for Vince Young (ouch) but that wind is scary. Thursday games really suck sometimes.

 
wadegarrett said:
joeski said:
I know it's a day away but this site shows winds of 25mph

http://www.wunderground.com/sports/NFL/hom...l?st=1260480000

Any Cleveland homers know what it's like in the stadium with high winds?
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You're looking at an ugly game of passing offense. The wind swirls from every direction and the 20-40 mph gusts will make throwing down field a huge gamble. As most would expect, you're going to see a heavy dose of Mendenhall. 130-150 yards isn't out of the question. If Ward's out, Miller may not be a bad option actually. Browns starting LBs are on IR also. Jerome Harrison is probably the Browns best FF option for the game.Best examples of recent games that have taken place under windy/icy/snowy conditions here and here. As of right now, the majority of the snow is supposed to go around Cleveland, however, it's also possible that lake effect snow kicks in and you're looking at something like this.

Can't wait to sit in it. :banned:
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:hifive: :banned: It is Cleveland - wind swirls in the stadium which is literally right on the Lake. . POSSIBLE SNOW. which means anywhere from a dusting to a foot. The wind is the biggest issue and they are talking gusts of 40 mph.

THis is the latest forecast for the zip code of the stadium:

Today: Periods of rain and snow. Very windy. Morning high of 52F with temps falling to near 40F. SW winds at 25 to 35 mph, increasing to 35 to 50 mph. Winds could occasionally gust over 50 mph.

Tonight: Occasional snow showers. Very windy. Low 26F. Winds SW at 35 to 50 mph. Chance of snow 70%. Snow accumulating 1 to 2 inches. Winds could occasionally gust over 50 mph.

Tomorrow: Occasional snow showers. Quite windy. High 26F. Winds WSW at 25 to 40 mph. Chance of snow 60%. 1 to 3 inches of snow expected. Winds could occasionally gust over 50 mph.

Tomorrow night: Windy with snow showers early becoming more scattered later. Low near 20F. Winds WSW at 25 to 40 mph. Chance of snow 60%. Some snow accumulation possible.

This is the biggest issue IMHO. I still think you have to start your PITT WR's unless you have better options. I will try to provide a weather update tomorrow before :banned:

 
LOCO said:
sitting miller for finely. thought with ward OUT, miller would get uptick. guess not.
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I'm in this exact boat as well. Finley played extremely well on Monday night, but there was that mention of a knee injury. Miller would be a good play with Ward out, but in 50 MPH wind gusts and possibly snow...meh. Not sure what to do at this point.
 
As someone who starts Big Ben and S. Holmes every week in my big money league...........this is very troubling (Holmes is finally hot and with Ward out.......damn it!). I'm going to end up tuning in for pregame to check on the winds before making any decisions.

 
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As most would expect, you're going to see a heavy dose of Mendenhall. 130-150 yards isn't out of the question.
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Does anyone think that Mendenhall might actually be injured or are the Steelers just being overly cautious with him because of the short week?
 
wadegarrett said:
joeski said:
I know it's a day away but this site shows winds of 25mph

http://www.wunderground.com/sports/NFL/hom...l?st=1260480000

Any Cleveland homers know what it's like in the stadium with high winds?
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You're looking at an ugly game of passing offense. The wind swirls from every direction and the 20-40 mph gusts will make throwing down field a huge gamble. As most would expect, you're going to see a heavy dose of Mendenhall. 130-150 yards isn't out of the question. If Ward's out, Miller may not be a bad option actually. Browns starting LBs are on IR also. Jerome Harrison is probably the Browns best FF option for the game.Best examples of recent games that have taken place under windy/icy/snowy conditions here and here. As of right now, the majority of the snow is supposed to go around Cleveland, however, it's also possible that lake effect snow kicks in and you're looking at something like this.

Can't wait to sit in it. :lmao:
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:popcorn:
 
If you are still alive in a Last Man Standing/Suicide pool, I would avoid Pittsburgh this week, if you haven't already used them. I'm taking Tennessee, who is at home against the hapless Rams. Just think the conditions in Cleveland could make the game closer than it should be.

 
MaddHatter said:
Reporting that the strong gusts could occasionally be around 40 mph. Occasionally. I have a feeling that everything will be fine for this game as I am as inept enough to be a meteorologist as most in that field.
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Sustained winds of 25-30 though. That's bad enough to affect the passing game even without the gusts, which you never know when they are coming. I live in an area that gets wind storms, and gusts can come a couple times per minute or even much more. "Occasionally" likely doesn't mean once every 10 minutes when it comes to wind gusts.
 
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hmm... I have BigBen and Alex Smith (homes vs Cardinals on MNF) this week

i think i am leaning towards Smith given his recent solid play and that he won't be playing in wintry windy conditions ... any thoughts?

 
I really did not want to start Schaub, who is one hit away from a trip to the locker room for X-Rays on the non-throwing shouler seperation he had last Sunday, but now I consider Rothlisberger a riskier start. If not for this weather, Ben had a great matchup. Schaub does too, but for that shoulder...

And with Ward out, even worse implications in a bad weather game for Rotlisberger. I never did like Cleveland. Been a long time since I've been there, but 25 years ago it looked like a rusty toilet bowl. Old rusty abandoned steel mills and factories all over the place. Now I like Cleveland even less.

 
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